I need opinions, anyone?
I keep flashing different ROMS and the battery has always had bad life
I've done a lot of different methods to fix battery life issues, but no go.
Having good luck with Swagged Out Stock.
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A lot of people say AOSP ROMs are good on battery life cuz the sense is gone.
Try out Xplod RLS (one of my favs) test it out see how it goes for you. It's an AOSP btw.
For sense I recommend Tommytomatoes Classic v0.0.0.4 its awesome!
How long does your battery last? Are you running mobile data all day? GPS?
I can get around 20-24 hours put of my battery with real heavy usage. Around 2 days with normal use.
I keep my 3g and everything off until i need it.
HTC EVO 4G running Mikg 2.58
Don't know who your talkin too but I'll reply lol
On Classic I'm gettin roughly about 1d 19h 43m with pretty decent usage text, call, xda, browsing jus putting it to charge right now
I have always had the best success with AOSP and custom kernel.
Currently running ICSmod7 with latest tiamets. With 4g it drops fast but without I get through a full day no worries medium use. Text, fb, music during workout ect...
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Getting good battery life with MikG 2.61.
mikg rom to me is best for battery life .and very stable rom and clean so try and let us know .im running miui and battery life is pretty good but not as good as my mikg rom
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I've been experimenting with ROMs and kernels for the last 18 months, always looking for best battery life with regular to heavy use. A good custom kernel will sometimes give you an extra 10-15 %. Using setCPU or another app like systemtuner (my pref) to turn CPU down while screen off can also give you 5-10%. Far and away the best thing for my battery is to use an alternative launcher (ADW for me) and then use Titanium backup pro or systemtuner to freeze sense. you just find the two elements in the process list that start with "HTC sense" and freeze them. Night and day. FYI I run synergy and have always come back to Myn's ROMs cause they are good for battery from the start, but they also take well to pretty much any custom kernel, which isn't true for all ROMs. I like everything to work so I always ditch AOSP ROMs a few days after trying them.
sam9696 said:
I've been experimenting with ROMs and kernels for the last 18 months, always looking for best battery life with regular to heavy use. A good custom kernel will sometimes give you an extra 10-15 %. Using setCPU or another app like systemtuner (my pref) to turn CPU down while screen off can also give you 5-10%. Far and away the best thing for my battery is to use an alternative launcher (ADW for me) and then use Titanium backup pro or systemtuner to freeze sense. you just find the two elements in the process list that start with "HTC sense" and freeze them. Night and day. FYI I run synergy and have always come back to Myn's ROMs cause they are good for battery from the start, but they also take well to pretty much any custom kernel, which isn't true for all ROMs. I like everything to work so I always ditch AOSP ROMs a few days after trying them.
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Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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Tommytomatoes The Classic is a solid sense rom with good battery life its fast as hell, has lots of mods and themes and is pretty sick I've been stuck on it for over a month now I've flashed other roms but always come back to the classic after a few hours
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maybe a dumb question. What is the difference between underclocking and undervolting?
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Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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Underclocking is when you set the speed of the processor to a lower setting than the stock clocks where as undervolting is lowering the voltage needed to run it at a certain speed be it stock underclocked or overclocked. Simplest way I understand it.
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Real culprit for batt issues
Has anyone ever bothered to understand that theres a pesty bug no one knew of.. Called CIQ "carrier IQ"
Ya this is one of the main reasons behind bad batt.. Sprint and other carriers allow a company to monitor and chart everything we do and it mirrors off txts and data sent and is designed to pick up on.key words... Basically an Invasive tracking monitor. It's a huge in noticed drain... And its been shown to be removed from system/app in many custom roms. But it never does cause its so strattled throughout the OS.
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IMPuLSe EX said:
I need opinions, anyone?
I keep flashing different ROMS and the battery has always had bad life
I've done a lot of different methods to fix battery life issues, but no go.
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I have been using evodeck v1.3 with the lee kernel and the rom just sips on my battery and gives me outstanding battery life with amazing speeds
lojak29 said:
Has anyone ever bothered to understand that theres a pesty bug no one knew of.. Called CIQ "carrier IQ"
Ya this is one of the main reasons behind bad batt.. Sprint and other carriers allow a company to monitor and chart everything we do and it mirrors off txts and data sent and is designed to pick up on.key words... Basically an Invasive tracking monitor. It's a huge in noticed drain... And its been shown to be removed from system/app in many custom roms. But it never does cause its so strattled throughout the OS.
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"no one knew of" are you kidding me? Carrier IQ has been known about for at least a year now... and no, it's not responsible for any significant amount of battery drain...
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Definantly aosp in my experience. Cm7 gets my vote for battery life
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Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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So you clearly don't talk on the phone at all.
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So you clearly don't talk on the phone at all.
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Ah yes, the people that come in arguing and debating my claims. This happens every time. I use my phone quite often, and still get amazing battery life.
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Ah yes, the people that come in arguing and debating my claims. This happens every time. I use my phone quite often, and still get amazing battery life.
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Dude you have a serious problem I honestly think you need to quit thinking people are attacking you this is the 3rd time I've seen you in a thread that I'm in and not once have I seen you post anything good or helpful I honestly think you should refrain from posting that's my opinion only cause I think your on a kid level and you really can't carry an easy conversation with someone sometimes I wonder if you even have this phone and if your trolling EVO Forum instead of the Transformer Forum.
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CM6 is definitely great, I think without question it is a vast improvement.
The only issue I have is my battery life is ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. Could be the worst battery life I've had with any phone. But maybe that's just the EVO, with it's big screen and speedy processor. I underclock to 384 mhz sometimes but then the thing slows down and even freezes. I have 3 different batteries and they all perform about the same (not good.) Before I had a partial wake issue but that's gone, and battery life still stinks. I've also tried calibrating but nothing really seems to make it better.
I hear the snap thing is good for battery life but I everytime I open that thread I get a headache. I love this phone and am obsessed wtih it but that thread is a bit much even for me!
Can anyone give me a quick and dirty explaination of what snap is / how to use snap? Which kernel to flash? Some day I hope to digest that mammoth of a thread, but right now I'm too busy reading texts for college and Just want better battery life.
Thanks!
Download app System Panel. Will help show you what is eating up your battery/resources.
Then, download app Juice Defender. Worth it to get the paid version. Its like 3 bucks IIRC. This will help you get more battery life out of your phone.
-Sent from my Evo.
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Download app System Panel. Will help show you what is eating up your battery/resources.
Then, download app Juice Defender. Worth it to get the paid version. Its like 3 bucks IIRC. This will help you get more battery life out of your phone.
-Sent from my Evo.
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Yeah, I tried System Panel but the things eating my battery were mostly system things, like Browser. I guess I could give it another go.
Why are Juice Defender reviews so bad? I've considered it before also, maybe will try playing with it again
snap 8.2 is the current release. you can try any of the kernels, but i would avoid the 7.0/7.1 SD Card implementations since that technology has been put on the back burner for a bit.
Snap allows you to you Overclock and Undervolt (aka: UV).
Overclocking of course is for speed and Undervolting may save battery.
all EVOs are not created equal. some like undervolting some do not. so snap is available in multiple flavors. each with a different UV floor. the lower the floor the more potential battery saving..but also the more chance for a random reboot or wifi/gps acting funny. remember UV retards the amount of power so things can act goofy. the different UV floors are 800mv - 925mv. for example...i use the 8.2_900 because it works well with my EVO. the 8.2_800 booted great but after a while started rebooting itself. 8.2_850 just hung at bootup. the 8.1 kernels didn't work for me at all. 7.3b1 was great.
HAVs is adaptive..so don't get stressed if your device fails to boot properly the first time. wipe the cache/dalvik and try again.
so download a few of the 8.2 kernels.
make your nandroid
begin trial and error (I'd suggest starting at 800, 850 then 900 to get a feel)
don't be afraid to wipe the Cache and Dalvik multiple times.
don't worry about the whole thread. just grab the last few pages and read the OP. then feel free to ask.
i also recommend setCPU. you can find some threads for SetCPU configurations to help. BUT....make sure SetCPU is disabled when flashing the new kernel. once you get a working kernel you can enable SetCPU...but during testing phase it will give you gray hair.
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Just a few quick thoughts on voltages/freqs after seeing a handful of discussion in the thread:
1) Every 8.2 kernel has voltages lower than stock. The default stock voltage @ 245 is something around 1050.
2) No real effort is made to UV at the top end. It's a little lower, but the objective at the highest CPU frequency is not to UV. Most of the benefit of UV comes at the low end of the scale when your phone is idle (most of the time). Less voltage = less draw.
3) nHAVS scales voltage at each step. There is a min.max voltage at every cpu frequency. This range is fairly small--50-75mv, but it enables HAVS to decide based on feedback from the CPU which one to apply. And the max at each step is lower than stock. So no matter how you slice it, even if you're running 925, you are undervolted. This becomes a question of how undervolted.
4) OC is not about undervolting, it's about overclocking. The differences is voltage vs. frequency. OC means we're increasing the CPU frequency beyond stock which is 998mhz in the case of Evo. If you move your SetCPU slider beyond 998mhz, you're overclocking.
The objective of overclocking is speed. The objective of undervolting is battery savings. Snap gives you both. We overclock when we increase the fequency with SetCPU. We undervolt automatically via nHAVS. As of this writing, UV is handled in the kernel, it happens most at the bottom end of the frequency scale.
I hope this helps clear up some of the questions. Great conversation by the way.
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GREAT EXPLANATION Dragin!!!
and also, to the OP.... dont forget, if you do go with setcpu, do NOT 'set on boot' mmmmkay??? lol
Thank you Dragin!!!
That helps a lot! So once you have Snap setup at what you feel is "good" does your phone seem to perform as well as before you had it undervolted? Man, sounds like a pretty involved process - maybe I better wait until I can really sit down and play with it.
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GREAT EXPLANATION Dragin!!!
and also, to the OP.... dont forget, if you do go with setcpu, do NOT 'set on boot' mmmmkay??? lol
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Do you mean for the first flash? Or every time you boot your phone?
If not set on boot, it means you have to start SetCPU manually after each boot. Doesn't seem right
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Do you mean for the first flash? Or every time you boot your phone?
If not set on boot, it means you have to start SetCPU manually after each boot. Doesn't seem right
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I think he's talking about when ur figuring out the best setup
Regarding Juice:
I didn't really read too much into the reviews for this particular app. It works. I was having battery issues. Downloaded Juice, got the settings somewhat right to my liking and so far no complaints. Unplugged my phone from charger this morning at roughly 9am, been using it moderately all day, and as of right now at 12:50am, I am at 29%.
Bad reviews or not, I can attest to it working and making a difference in battery life.
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I had the same issue, left to stock with kingx.
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Regarding Juice:
I didn't really read too much into the reviews for this particular app. It works. I was having battery issues. Downloaded Juice, got the settings somewhat right to my liking and so far no complaints. Unplugged my phone from charger this morning at roughly 9am, been using it moderately all day, and as of right now at 12:50am, I am at 29%.
Bad reviews or not, I can attest to it working and making a difference in battery life.
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Do you know what in particular Juice is doing to give you better battery life? like what does Turn off certain things based on conditions or?
That is some good battery life.
Correct.
You can set conditions to do certain things. Such as disable data/3g/wifi while screen is off. Also if you need data synced you can set a condition to enable data wifi or 3g for X minutes every X minutes/hours.
I am not affiliated with the dev in anyway but it def made a difference and was worth the price for it.
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Correct.
You can set conditions to do certain things. Such as disable data/3g/wifi while screen is off. Also if you need data synced you can set a condition to enable data wifi or 3g for X minutes every X minutes/hours.
I am not affiliated with the dev in anyway but it def made a difference and was worth the price for it.
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Meh... see I really don't want to do those things. I can turn off data sync myself and just have gmail forward me a text message when I have an email. I just was hoping there was a way to get decent battery life without going back to the days of Winmo
I absolutely adore CM6, but I'm really starting to think that it is not battery friendly. Last night my battery went from full to 25% in 8 hours. I had nothing running, my partial wake was fine, and Android system took up 60%+. I really don't feel like doing another wipe, but it looks like I may have to. Just want it to work right at this point.
Again, I truly love CM6, the open source concept, the transparency, the whole clean idea of it, but there is something seriously wrong with the battery life (at least in every install I have tried)
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I absolutely adore CM6, but I'm really starting to think that it is not battery friendly. Last night my battery went from full to 25% in 8 hours. I had nothing running, my partial wake was fine, and Android system took up 60%+. I really don't feel like doing another wipe, but it looks like I may have to. Just want it to work right at this point.
Again, I truly love CM6, the open source concept, the transparency, the whole clean idea of it, but there is something seriously wrong with the battery life (at least in every install I have tried)
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i agree with you. but i also feel that CM6 is on par with the Official HTC/Sprint ROM when it comes to battery life expectancy. however, after i put on the snap kernel and copied someones setcpu config....i got 26+hrs of 'use it as i wish' time + still had about an hour of in-pocket time left. i was hooked. i bet you an imaginary dollar the same will happen for you.
as for finding your EVOs kernel made in heaven...
it's not too bad so long as you have some time. but if you are time strapped, need your phone in 20min and don't read the OP... you will curse and swear. expect to get hung up at the HTC splashscreen a few times and it will bootloop on you before your done. <I'd suggest just leaving your battery cover off until you are done muckn about for that session>
klick may be easier for the some end users because of fewer selections. I've never used his kernels. if i try them, i'll prolly wait till he's put out a few AOSP versions...to work out any bugs.
oh yeah...one odd thing, it seems that sometimes folks flash a incompatible kernel it gets 'stuck'. after that 'bad flash' they are unable to flash any kernel until after they have nandroided back and rebooted...then they can flash again. i had this happen twice....i was unable to get a known good kernel to load until after i restored from backup. /shrug
oh....try this. download the snap7.5_925 kernel. if it runs smooth. call it a day and you should be pretty happy with that until the new versions come out. yeah, if you got one of the _800 kernels running you may pull an extra 30-45min of time...but that requires a level of geekdom that not everyone has.
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i agree with you. but i also feel that CM6 is on par with the Official HTC/Sprint ROM when it comes to battery life expectancy. however, after i put on the snap kernel and copied someones setcpu config....i got 26+hrs of 'use it as i wish' time + still had about an hour of in-pocket time left. i was hooked. i bet you an imaginary dollar the same will happen for you.
as for finding your EVOs kernel made in heaven...
it's not too bad so long as you have some time. but if you are time strapped, need your phone in 20min and don't read the OP... you will curse and swear. expect to get hung up at the HTC splashscreen a few times and it will bootloop on you before your done. <I'd suggest just leaving your battery cover off until you are done muckn about for that session>
klick may be easier for the some end users because of fewer selections. I've never used his kernels. if i try them, i'll prolly wait till he's put out a few AOSP versions...to work out any bugs.
oh yeah...one odd thing, it seems that sometimes folks flash a incompatible kernel it gets 'stuck'. after that 'bad flash' they are unable to flash any kernel until after they have nandroided back and rebooted...then they can flash again. i had this happen twice....i was unable to get a known good kernel to load until after i restored from backup. /shrug
oh....try this. download the snap7.5_925 kernel. if it runs smooth. call it a day and you should be pretty happy with that until the new versions come out. yeah, if you got one of the _800 kernels running you may pull an extra 30-45min of time...but that requires a level of geekdom that not everyone has.
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Thanks man, appreciate the breakdown.
You have inspired me, I'm going to bite the bullet and try this snap7.5_925 kernel. I'll report back my luck
I do enjoy this stuff, really - just right now it would be irresponsible for me to spend too much time on it. School comes first right now.
DraginMagik said:
... after i put on the snap kernel and copied someones setcpu config....i got 26+hrs of 'use it as i wish' time + still had about an hour of in-pocket time left. i was hooked. i bet you an imaginary dollar the same will happen for you.
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Wow, I'd love to have that kind of time with CM6, right now I drain at about 10% an hour with no usage at all; where can I find that setcpu config? I really like CM6 but battery life is killing me right now.
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Wow, I'd love to have that kind of time with CM6, right now I drain at about 10% an hour with no usage at all; where can I find that setcpu config? I really like CM6 but battery life is killing me right now.
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Yeah dragin, don't hog those sweet settings! I'm enjoying Snap 7.6 and it seems to be helping out my battery life a bit, but I'd love to see your SetCPU details.
I've found that the issue for me is bluetooth. If I have it on constantly my battery will drain 10-15% per hour. With bluetooth off it's only draining 1%-2% per hour.
Seems like the bluetooth needs work on CM6 in order to have the efficiency that the other ROMs i've tried (Fresh and EViO) have. Nonetheless, I'm sticking with CM6 and just use the bluetooth when necessary.
I have the same issue with bluetooth on CM 6.0.0. I am running the stock kernel that comes with cyanogenmod, so this is definitely not a snap issue. There was a bug submitted about a month ago:
code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2136
I *really* hope this can get fixed for the 6.1 release, but it is currently listed with a low priority. I really love CM6, but basically making bluetooth unusable for more than a few hours really makes me struggle with the using this rom.
Why not the 7.6 with turbo...just wonderin
My friend has a G2 but no xda account so he asked me to come here and ask you guys what's the best G2 ROM with great battery. Were going on a 14 hour trip and were going need it too last. Any advice? On ROM and kernels
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It depends on what you will be doing with it. Any ROM can be made to last 14 hours if you have a battery in good condition and only use it occasionally to check e-mail, visit a few web sites, etc. My Desire Z easily holds up to a full day that way. OTOH, if you're playing games all day long or watching 14 hours of movies, then no ROM will help. You will need an extended battery at that point, or some other way of recharging the battery.
In my experience, although people make claims about how good one ROMs battery life is over another, I have yet to see any convincing evidence. People's usage patterns and phone environment are far too different to be able to say that one particular ROM makes a consistent, noticeable difference. If anyone has actually published scientific results studying this, please point me to them.
As almost all ROMs are derived from a common code base and run on the same hardware, I would focus more on a ROMs usability, speed, feature mix and stability.
+1 to the post above. It is all predicated on how you use your phone and for what, also if you use setCPU or use the tweaKr script (like me), it depends on your profiles and governors. I personally have great battery life using the latest meXdroidMod release for the G2, but I'm very careful to always calibrate my battery between flashing roms. MeXdroidMod is the only one to my knowledge that uses waydownsouth's tweaKr script that allows you to undervolt your processor and set profiles for your CPU that react much faster than setCPU does. My advice is find a rom that you like and make sure to wipe battery stats then use the battery calibration app. Good luck and happy flashing!
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My friend likes unity 3.0... do you think that could last? with just using the phone for texting and stuff like that?
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My friend likes unity 3.0... do you think that could last? with just using the phone for texting and stuff like that?
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Any sense based rom like Unity will be processor intensive, so I don't think it would last nearly as long as an ASOP build. Also the unity dev team has pulled all their download links from xda and their website, so unless you find someone willing to share I don't think you'll have much luck.
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I have unity 3.0. I get about 10-12 hours of battery life. Here are some ideas that i use:
-download juice defender
-set max sleep cpu speeds at 368mhz
-processor is set to 1.2 ghz by default. Set it to 800mhz
Is the trip is by car, you can get a car charger.if by plane, many planes offer usb charging
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It depends on what you will be doing with it. Any ROM can be made to last 14 hours if you have a battery in good condition and only use it occasionally to check e-mail, visit a few web sites, etc. My Desire Z easily holds up to a full day that way. OTOH, if you're playing games all day long or watching 14 hours of movies, then no ROM will help. You will need an extended battery at that point, or some other way of recharging the battery.
In my experience, although people make claims about how good one ROMs battery life is over another, I have yet to see any convincing evidence. People's usage patterns and phone environment are far too different to be able to say that one particular ROM makes a consistent, noticeable difference. If anyone has actually published scientific results studying this, please point me to them.
As almost all ROMs are derived from a common code base and run on the same hardware, I would focus more on a ROMs usability, speed, feature mix and stability.
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Exactly. I guess this is where YMMV definitely comes in handy. All the ROMs I've used I can easily get more than half a day out of them with my daily use. I shut off data when at work and turn it on on my breaks to browse the web, check emails etc.
There is the G-Lite rom from the Virtuous guys. I haven't tried it out but the other roms I've used from them are great. It's not Sense tho, it's ASOP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076786
+1 for G-Lite rom. With version 1.0.2. i could consistently get 2-2.5 days on a single charge.
Asking what the best ROM battery life is is like asking what the best bass for metal is hiding: ). It really depends on your phone, and how heavy of a user you are. But if you want an actual answer, I get the best battery life with Xboarder's Stock Gingerbread ROM.
hey guys, i am looking for a kernel that will save me on battery. i am running zombie 4 rom. it says it runs the dark x kernel. i don't need to be running at super speeds but i don't want screen freezes either. i just want to be able to play my satellite radio without the phone draining 3 percent every 5 min or so. any help would be great.
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hey guys, i am looking for a kernel that will save me on battery. i am running zombie 4 rom. it says it runs the dark x kernel. i don't need to be running at super speeds but i don't want screen freezes either. i just want to be able to play my satellite radio without the phone draining 3 percent every 5 min or so. any help would be great.
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I would be interested in this as well. Currently I am Rooted and have tried a few ROM's but haven't found one yet that doesn't have some bug or another. {Granted, I haven't tried them all} Tried one ROM that really distorted my custom made Wallpapers, which is a big deal to me. So... yes, any info on a better battery life Kernel would be welcome.
Currently I am not a "heavy user" on the phone. Talk - Text - You Tube occasionally... that's it. Constantly looking for better ways to improve this already amazing phone.
Eugenes kernel has given me great battery life. Either get down with Eugene's Macnut ROM which already has it or search for it under the general section under the bounty thread for Eugene. Its in page....58?
Keep in mind that the "beta" kernel does not have bln support but works just fine so long as you use the lionheart governor.
If you can't find the bounty thread then I'm sorry for you.
Synergy kernel has been awesome on battery for many.
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I second just using macnut rom. I've tried em all, and his always gets the best battery life (for me).
I also undervolt via system tuner pro so that I'm at 1137 at 1.51
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Synergy kernel has been awesome on battery for many.
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+1 for Synergy, i got well over a day when i was running rooted stock debloated, etc. Also i use setcpu ondemand gov. 1620 max 384 min
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hey guys, i am looking for a kernel that will save me on battery. i am running zombie 4 rom. it says it runs the dark x kernel. i don't need to be running at super speeds but i don't want screen freezes either. i just want to be able to play my satellite radio without the phone draining 3 percent every 5 min or so. any help would be great.
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How you use your phone determines the best way to get the best battery life. Basically there are two ways to save battery: cutting power when not in use and delivering less power to the processors.
If you use your phone intermittently throughout the day for texts or calls, you'll get the best battery results from kernels/ROMs/apps that cut unnecessary functions when you're not using the phone. For example, juice defender cuts your wifi and mobile data when your screen is off and reactivates it every 15min (can be configured otherwise) to check for notifications. Darkside's Digital Warfare utilizes something called "deep sleep" which actually completely turns off your processors when the screen is off, but keeps the basic cell radio on so if you receive a text/phone call it will wake up the processor. These functions have the largest and safest impact on battery life.
If you're constantly using your phone and you want better battery life, you basically only have one option: undervolting. This is essentially supplying less power to your processors, which can be done through system tuner. It's not a free ticket, however; if you undervolt too low then at higher frequencies (playing games, etc.) your processor will become unstable and your phone will randomly reboot. If you encounter this, then don't undervolt that much and up the voltage to the last safe level. Just for reference, undervolting by 50mV is usually considered safe and undervolting past 100mV usually results in boot loops. But how far you can actually undervolt depends on your individual phone hardware, there's no universal answer. Make sure to not set your undervolt settings to set at boot until you find a stable voltage. Otherwise, you'll be forced to restore a nandroid if you encounter a bootloop.
TL;DR
If your phone already lasts a day and you want it to last 2-3 days, look into ROMs/kernels/apps that cut unnecessary functions when not in use. Most effective way to extend battery.
If your phone lasts 8 hours and you want it to last a day because you're a heavy user, look into undervolting with system tuner.
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my phone used in 24h, very good
I'm using juggs. 5.0 with a DSX kernel. I've been getting about 11-12 hours with decent use.
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stock rom. Just download a battery manager from the Market.
So just got my Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and already unlocked running stock 4.0.4 rooted. I got the extended battery (2100) and I am still kind of disappointed in battery life. I mean, even on 3G all day yesterday it lasted maybe 9 hrs. I have turned off a lot of background apps but still hasn't helped much.
Any suggestions on good rom's/kernels for the best battery life without having to sacrifice too much on the performance side?
Figure it out man.
Everyone (literally) is going to say something different here.
I'll vote Immoseon's 2.3.0 stable with stock clocks but dropped the vsels down by 100 personally.
Next guy will vote franco's.
Next guy will say popcorn.
^This man speaks the truth.
The problem with statements like "X kernal is best for all situations" is that it CANNOT be true. Kernal's will give you varying battery life depending on what you use them for. Since only you know what you do with your phone, you'll have to do some trial and error to figure out which one works best for you.
I, for example, browse fb, read some ebooks, and browse the internet randomly, I've found Franco's Kernal works best for me.
Perhaps a heavy gamer may be that to be untrue. Perhaps someone who takes lots of video/photos do not agree. But for my purposes, I am satisfied.
GL!
If the next vote is for popcorn I'll feel like a wizard
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If the next vote is for popcorn I'll feel like a wizard
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I am voting for popcorn so you can be a wizard
Lol yeah, another one of the "best kernel for blah blah" collection...
Adding my agreement to try them out and see. I like imoysen, but that is based on my usage.
One thing I will recommend is fully charge your phone before installing a new kernel, then wipe your dalvick and battery stats after installing. Then let it drain till it dies and fully recharge it in one go. Then evaluate your battery performance. It will give you a more accurate view of how it will perform. giving your phone a few days to settle into a kernel always helps, imo.
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pastasauce said:
^This man speaks the truth.
The problem with statements like "X kernal is best for all situations" is that it CANNOT be true. Kernal's will give you varying battery life depending on what you use them for. Since only you know what you do with your phone, you'll have to do some trial and error to figure out which one works best for you.
I, for example, browse fb, read some ebooks, and browse the internet randomly, I've found Franco's Kernal works best for me.
Perhaps a heavy gamer may be that to be untrue. Perhaps someone who takes lots of video/photos do not agree. But for my purposes, I am satisfied.
GL!
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Hi. Can you give us some definite figures and how much better battery life you're getting (percentage or hours). I'm a new gnex owner and although I will definitely root my gnex eventually, I'm currently reading through all the threads regarding battery life.
I'm a moderate user myself - using it mostly as an e-reader with the occassional gaming, browsing, call and text. Right now I'm getting the following performance:
15% remaining at 13 hrs
4 to 4.5 hours display time
Like most users, my main concern when I root will be battery life.
Wiping battery stats does not improve battery life.
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Jamesbond kernel , core and iva undervolted, no cpu undervolt, aokp35, 50% brightness.
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Jamesbond kernel , core and iva undervolted, no cpu undervolt, aokp35, 50% brightness.
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Thanks! Just the figures I'm looking for.
I've used cm9 and aokp the past month and tried the stock Kernels that come with it and Franco's. One thing is for certain. No matter combination I get horrible battery life. If I run stock android with my extended battery including various Widgets I get 24 hours battery life pretty easily. Moderate usage and some heavy usage. With cm9 I'm getting maybe 15-16 hrs with aokp maybe 8-9 hers and I'm using Franco's kernel right now. I don't understand this. People talk about how much better the battery life is with various ROMS than stock but I'm not getting it. I'm getting like half the battery life I was before. Any ideas?
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I can relate to you. Was in CM9 and Franko's kernel and as you said, horrible battery life. I went back to stock but this time I did not install apps thar would require services running (well I have to run WhatsApp so that's the only one running besides default abdroid services).
I am seeing better battery life this way.
The next step would be to install CM9 and restore all my apps to see if I can replicate the same battery life.
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you need to find out what apps are keeping your phone from sleeping dude its not the ROM or Kernel if you want to find out you can use better battery stats or just read the permissions on your apps otherwise its probably cause your on your phone too much with the screen on first show use a usage screen shot then how many apps you have we can narrow it down
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you need to find out what apps are keeping your phone from sleeping dude its not the ROM or Kernel if you want to find out you can use better battery stats or just read the permissions on your apps otherwise its probably cause your on your phone too much with the screen on first show use a usage screen shot then how many apps you have we can narrow it down
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^This, and how much on screen time are you getting?
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^This, and how much on screen time are you getting?
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I'm getting about 1.5 hrs screen time. With stock in was getting 2-3hrs. As far as apps keeping my phone from sleeping. I'm running the same apps I run on stock android when I was getting a full day on average so not sure how they would run different because I'm on a ROM.
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get better Battery stats app... And check for partial wakelocks...
I had exactly same problem... And on stock no problems
But now... Franco m4 + aokp b37
And 3 to 3.5 hours screen
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I used that better battery stats app and apparently there was audio something (sorry can't remember the exact words) causing partial wakelocks, read some google search results and disabled the lock screen sound in aokp and it went away, go figure?
I swear my battery life is better with the kernel that comes with AOKP rather than franco, which was a bummer since I'd just bought the franco updater app, perhaps just my imagination or maybe something just needs to be tweaked
Well, this has pretty much nothing to do with the ROMs/kernels, you flash to the device. If you use the device for heavy gaming, you use loads of apps etc. the battery life will obviously be bad, because the CPU needs the according CPU clock speed...
Underclock the CPU, or better: Get AnTuTu CPU Master pro, and set the profiles, underclock screen off, to 700 MHz, and every other proile, where you do not neccessarily need the device to that speed, not below, otherwise it will just crash... That way you have the best battery life, for your usage, so basically, every time you switch the device's screen off, it will save a hell of a load of battery
Under clocking doesn't do much for battery life contrary to popular belief. It just increases the time it takes to process a task. It might take 1s at 1.2ghz vs 1.8s at 800ghz to complete a given task for example. So yes the cpu will run at lower speed and voltage but it still also take longer to return to idle.
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Under clocking doesn't do much for battery life contrary to popular belief. It just increases the time it takes to process a task. It might take 1s at 1.2ghz vs 1.8s at 800ghz to complete a given task for example. So yes the cpu will run at lower speed and voltage but it still also take longer to return to idle.
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Well, I don't really mean to break this, because it is right, but not completely...
Underclocking & undervolting, when the device is not in use (Screen off) saves loads of battery...
And because it's a dual-core, it takes mostly just as long to open an app at 700 MHz, as when you're doing it at stock clock speed, or voltage or higher.. So, in that case...
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Well, this has pretty much nothing to do with the ROMs/kernels, you flash to the device. If you use the device for heavy gaming, you use loads of apps etc. the battery life will obviously be bad, because the CPU needs the according CPU clock speed...
Underclock the CPU, or better: Get AnTuTu CPU Master pro, and set the profiles, underclock screen off, to 700 MHz, and every other proile, where you do not neccessarily need the device to that speed, not below, otherwise it will just crash... That way you have the best battery life, for your usage, so basically, every time you switch the device's screen off, it will save a hell of a load of battery
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Not sure how this wouldn't have to do with the different ROMS and kernels since I stated what battery life I was getting with stock vs using a custom kernel and ROMS. I'm giving a comparison of my battery on each with the same usasge and they are different.
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0kk0 said:
get better Battery stats app... And check for partial wakelocks...
I had exactly same problem... And on stock no problems
But now... Franco m4 + aokp b37
And 3 to 3.5 hours screen
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Thank you! I will look into this!
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I used that better battery stats app and apparently there was audio something (sorry can't remember the exact words) causing partial wakelocks, read some google search results and disabled the lock screen sound in aokp and it went away, go figure?
I swear my battery life is better with the kernel that comes with AOKP rather than franco, which was a bummer since I'd just bought the franco updater app, perhaps just my imagination or maybe something just needs to be tweaked
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I will look into this as well! Thanks!
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Okay so today I tried MIUI. The battery life blows stock android, aokp and cm9 away. I had over 3hrs of screen time today. Night and day compared to cm9 and aokp. I really don't get this.
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