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Be Careful Using Other Carrier PRL's. (Terminated)

Well i know everybody said to be careful but i didnt actually think i was gonna get Terminated... i had the 00001 Verizon Prl and i used about 6gbs a month haha. They got me, but im jus gonna jump on my freinds plan I still <3 Sprint.

Well at least we know for sure that this is a way to get out of your Sprint contract and without an ETT fee.

LouSkywalker said:
Well at least we know for sure that this is a way to get out of your Sprint contract and without an ETT fee.
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haha yup very true. i jus started my 2 years over too.

Are they asking for you to return your phone?
Or did you buy it at retail price?
Jw

rpnunez said:
Are they asking for you to return your phone?
Or did you buy it at retail price?
Jw
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they didnt say anything about my phone, and no i JUST extended my two year contract for it.

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Are they asking for you to return your phone?
Or did you buy it at retail price?
Jw
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They can't ask you for your phone back.

Did they ban your ESN?
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Hi there,
I noticed you'd said you used around 6gb for months...
How many months did you get away with this?
Also, did they NEVER send you a letter/call you telling you that you were roaming a lot?
You'd think they'd give you a heads up.
One other thought... Do you think you could call them and ask them to not terminate you? Basically say something like, oh i only roam while at home, can you send me an airave so that I don't roam at home (at the office i get great service), something like that?
-RR

h20wakebum said:
Hi there,
I noticed you'd said you used around 6gb for months...
How many months did you get away with this?
Also, did they NEVER send you a letter/call you telling you that you were roaming a lot?
You'd think they'd give you a heads up.
One other thought... Do you think you could call them and ask them to not terminate you? Basically say something like, oh i only roam while at home, can you send me an airave so that I don't roam at home (at the office i get great service), something like that?
-RR
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ive been doin it almost a year now, no they never warned me :/ a heads up wud have been nice, and your right i probably could do that but i rly dont care, my friends gonna let me jump on his plan then i can get a phone at a new line price

You should send them a bill for an ETF.
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bahahahahahaha...
Thanks....
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Frohdisiac said:
ive been doin it almost a year now, no they never warned me :/ a heads up wud have been nice, and your right i probably could do that but i rly dont care, my friends gonna let me jump on his plan then i can get a phone at a new line price
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12 months is a good amount of time.
Were you consistantly downloading around 6gb a month (on roam)?
I suspect if you just used this on your phone for normal activites (streaming pandora/web searches/google maps/nav etc...) that you'd probably be good to go.
I only ask because I have HORRIBLE service where I live and found the 01337 prl to be 1000x improvement as far as speed (60681- 10kb/s if lucky, 01337-mod 120 kb/s).
-RR

I'm surprised they don't look into where you're roaming and figure out why it's roaming so much.
if roaming because of PRL(They see great Sprint coverage where you roam) - warn you about it and charge ETF.
If roaming because of no sprint = cut service off as was done to OP.
What if you want to renew with them? Do they add you to some sort of black list?

newalker91 said:
I don't understand why anyone is acting surprised. This is clearly outlined in your contract that if you use over 50% of your voice/data per month roaming that your account will be subject to termination. The fact that they allowed you to get away with it for a year while using far more data roaming than the average Sprint customer does on the native network is nothing short of amazing. The massive bill that you have racked them up in roaming charges from Verizon should be grounds for them to sue you, to be honest. Sprint can see your PRL, and forcibly changing your PRL to roam 100% of the time should be grounds for termination with ETF. This ruins things for the rest of us as the revenue that could have gone to expanding/improving our network is now being used to pay off the massive debt incurred by people abusing roaming privileges.
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I don't think sprint gets a bill each month for X number of kilobytes people roam.
This is why they have signed roaming agreements... They pay a flat fee and users can then roam (no addl. cost to them).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I will say that it's unacceptable to run a speed test on Sprint, get only 10kb/s if lucky, flash a verizon prl and hit over 120kb/s and not feel like you're getting ripped off.
Every time I call sprint Data techs (they open a ticket and eventually tell me all towers are working correctly and there is no problem with the network)... Very disappointing.
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h20wakebum said:
I don't think sprint gets a bill each month for X number of kilobytes people roam.
This is why they have signed roaming agreements... They pay a flat fee and users can then roam (no addl. cost to them).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I will say that it's unacceptable to run a speed test on Sprint, get only 10kb/s if lucky, flash a verizon prl and hit over 120kb/s and not feel like you're getting ripped off.
Every time I call sprint Data techs (they open a ticket and eventually tell me all towers are working correctly and there is no problem with the network)... Very disappointing.
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Exactly my same thoughts especialy since they are charging you that extra 10 bucks a month and for what ****ty service.
I am half tempted on doing this since verizon is full speed here where I live. Sprint better WTFU and get on the ball.

Wizard220 said:
Exactly my same thoughts especialy since they are charging you that extra 10 bucks a month and for what ****ty service.
I am half tempted on doing this since verizon is full speed here where I live. Sprint better WTFU and get on the ball.
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Well if you want Verizon speeds, then you can go on Verizon IMO. While I love the fact that Sprint has low prices and I'd LOVE if they actually made them into decent speeds, jumping on a different PRL and getting terminated will just be worse int he long run since I don't want to pay for verizon service.

Wow, I honesty don't remember ever seeing anyone confirm that they were booted for excessive roaming. I never change PRLs and hardly ever roam but thanks for letting people know.
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newalker91 said:
I don't understand why anyone is acting surprised. This is clearly outlined in your contract that if you use over 50% of your voice/data per month roaming that your account will be subject to termination. The fact that they allowed you to get away with it for a year while using far more data roaming than the average Sprint customer does on the native network is nothing short of amazing. The massive bill that you have racked them up in roaming charges from Verizon should be grounds for them to sue you, to be honest. Sprint can see your PRL, and forcibly changing your PRL to roam 100% of the time should be grounds for termination with ETF. This ruins things for the rest of us as the revenue that could have gone to expanding/improving our network is now being used to pay off the massive debt incurred by people abusing roaming privileges.
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thank you for your presence here on XDA
i'd like to take a minute to mention 2 things.
1. in a contract that takes longer than ONE (1) minute to read, there is no such thing as "clearly stated" and I can't vouch for your colleagues encouraging people to read them. the contract gets highlighted in a couple places and it's a "sign here, here 'n here sur!"
2. there's a clause in federal law where if party B agrees to not do something under contract with party A, and party A does not enforce their contract within X time frame (never knew how long but would love to know), party A has then waived their right to file suit.

h20wakebum said:
I don't think sprint gets a bill each month for X number of kilobytes people roam.
This is why they have signed roaming agreements... They pay a flat fee and users can then roam (no addl. cost to them).
Correct me if I'm wrong...
But I will say that it's unacceptable to run a speed test on Sprint, get only 10kb/s if lucky, flash a verizon prl and hit over 120kb/s and not feel like you're getting ripped off.
Every time I call sprint Data techs (they open a ticket and eventually tell me all towers are working correctly and there is no problem with the network)... Very disappointing.
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Your 3G speeds are only 10kbps? You must live in a lead box.

12MaNy said:
Your 3G speeds are only 10kbps? You must live in a lead box.
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You're telling me.
Just ran a speed test and got 205kbps!!! WOW so fast!!!
Somtimes It's as bad as 10-70 kbps... It's horrible...
Anywho... Gotta hope Sprint will eventually fix their network, I see 6 towers being updated over the next 6 months.
-RR

[INFO] VZW UNLIMITED Data - Tips from a Throttled Power User

I originally posted information on how VZW actually does throttle 4G data. They claim to only throttle 3G connections but I can see obvious speed adjustments in a specific line that I severely exceed the normal usage on, my connections are slower than a more typically used line.
I am fine with being throttled and was offering my experience in what the thresholds were, I posted because of recent news about AT&T and a lot of misinformation about unlimited data usage and carrier's throttling. I was trying to quell the fears from experience because I highly doubt a single one of you is throttled or ever will be whereas I am in the top 5%... probably the top 1%. – Essentially that I am on the carrier’s side in their right to do so and that it’s not so bad when it happens.
What I got was a lynch mob over my very atypical data usage. My data needs are far greater than any plan currently offered so instead of paying $500+ a month in overages I admitted in my post to using Wireless Tether. - This is where the pitchforks and torches came in. If you don't use this app then so be it, I am Frankenstein’s monster and you want to string me up... if you have ever used the app then put down your pitchfork, you belong at my side because there is no difference in using it for 1kb or 1tb.
I read my contract and the terms of my service and do not believe I have violated my specific agreement but if I sign a new contract then the verbiage would change so that I would be in breach.
Know your contract and understand what you are signing, some marriages don’t even last for 2 years… It’s good to understand what you are signing up for especially if you are on here looking for instructions to root your phone or how to install one of the MANY tethering apps for rooted and non-rooted phones.
Someone (mwalt2) mentioned that I could still get the Mobile Hotspot enabled with unlimited data so I called Verizon and talked to a half dozen people, only the online rep would confirm that the specific feature code he gave exists… This is the closest as I have come in a year to getting Unlimited Mobile Hotspot data.
My final conversation with VZW today, I talked to a really awesome rep who agreed that my data usage was high but never questioned why. Actually, he avoided mentioning or asking me any questions about my usage other than the initial “Wow, you use a lot of data”. He told me the feature code I mentioned isn’t available anymore and he couldn’t add it to my plan; feature codes don’t ‘expire’ because people who had it added while it still existed need it for their plan to bill properly. So he could see it but he wasn’t able to add it.
My attempt was to add the feature for Unlimited Mobile Hotspot data; he could only offer me a 2GB plan for $20 or sign me up for a MiFi for an additional $10 for the line and then $80 for 10GB (They only double the data on phone plans).
His final words were, “Just keep doing what you are doing. There are no plans to get rid of people with unlimited data and at very least, if they do eventually, you have until the end of your contract to use it.”
This isn't my free ticket nor should it be yours, I will take it for what it's worth.
MY FINAL COMMENT:
I was trying to help the community with a contribution few of you will ever experience but ended up just getting chastised, threatened and called names. I will close this thread by saying: The VZW reps did not have any bad comments, no names, nor did they threaten to kick my arse. They have a better picture than any of you of my usage as well as a clear understanding of what the policies and terms of my agreement are. Every single Verizon rep I talked to today was nice, didn’t threaten to terminate my contract or tell me that I don’t “Need to use…” whatever feature/app was causing me to use so much data. - This is why I am with Verizon; I was a human talking to humans. I did not, nor should I ever, have to justify what I use my internet for. – I am sorry I even posted this but I did learn a lot so it wasn’t a complete waste.
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After all this time and crap it's as easy as getting into your features online to add the 4G mobile hotspot... it simply attaches to your unlimited data plan. (Comment#82) - FACEPALM -

Well, as long as you apologized for making everybody pay higher prices for data plans.
Oh and btw, what's your phone number? I'm not going to report you to Verizon or anything, I promise.

compnird said:
Do I feel guilty? A little... it's people like me that forced VZW to get rid of the Unlimited plan. So those of you using 5-6GB a month are forced to buy an expensive plan... sorry!
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Don't be. Tiered plans have nothing to do with capacity and everything to do with keeping revenue per user up despite declining voice usage. It has everything to do with paying a $400+ commission to Apple for every iPhone sold. As you know first hand, traffic shaping can be handled without across the board cutoffs.
You keep fighting the good fight. Strangle their network til they take it away from you. Fight the man, because he's been fighting all of us for years. He will lose, first by giving us unlimited off-peak data back. Then, he'll give us unlimited 24/7 access back too. We've seen this all before with voice.

What the heck! That's a lot of data in a month! I don't accept your apology.
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There was alot of speculation whether Verizon's unlimited data plan was truly unlimited back in the d1 days. Judging from the amount of data you have used I guess it is really unlimited I've always been tempted to tether to my Xbox when I'm away from a connection but thought it would lag to much.
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ATnTdude said:
You keep fighting the good fight. Strangle their network til they take it away from you. Fight the man, because he's been fighting all of us for years. He will lose, first by giving us unlimited off-peak data back. Then, he'll give us unlimited 24/7 access back too. We've seen this all before with voice.
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In all honesty I don't think of myself as "fighting the man". I just believe that we should ALL have a plan that fits our specific needs. They simply don't offer one for me any longer so I am forced to do something they frown upon.
I agree though, they screwed with the voice plans back in the early 00's and lost enough people, I almost jumped ship in 2001, they eventually brought back the unlimited talk and gave us more options like family share and others... SMS and MMS are the same way, they finally give me enough text allowance that I don't go over anymore but before it was either pay per text, 100 or 500... now I can pay for unlimited.
Someday they will bring back unlimited data or offer it at a considerable markup. Until then, I will continue using my data as I need it and will bail and go elsewhere if they ever cancelled it.

Zane_Grey said:
I've always been tempted to tether to my Xbox when I'm away from a connection but thought it would lag to much.
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I play online all the time with friends... I actually have had my daughter watching Netflix or Amazon videos on the tablet while I play Halo online.
I only had and issue once when my phone decided to reboot mid-game.
I literally had more issues and lag when I had Comcast Cable.
Give it a try sometime... Keep in mind that at home I have full signal 4G LTE so you may not have the same full signal I do. My Ping times to the Live servers are around 60ms.

compnird said:
I play online all the time with friends... I actually have had my daughter watching Netflix or Amazon videos on the tablet while I play Halo online.
I only had and issue once when my phone decided to reboot mid-game.
I literally had more issues and lag when I had Comcast Cable.
Give it a try sometime... Keep in mind that at home I have full signal 4G LTE so you may not have the same full signal I do. My Ping times to the Live servers are around 60ms.
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How much data do u use I want to use my phone for online but thought it would so a big red flag because Im around 3gb a month I have unlimited so I'm not to worried there just don't want vzw knowing.
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tysdad08 said:
How much data do u use I want to use my phone for online but thought it would so a big red flag because Im around 3gb a month I have unlimited so I'm not to worried there just don't want vzw knowing.
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Read my original post at the top..... I use a LOT!

Cool story bro.

schizrade said:
Cool story bro.
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I'm not a fan of this saying. But this time, it's fitting.
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That is a ridiculous amount of data...

lrs421 said:
I'm not a fan of this saying. But this time, it's fitting.
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Neither am I, but yes, it seems very fitting.
OP, people that are unable to get a decent dataplan for a decent price thank you. Why you would brag about this is beyond me. Just get a FiOS or uVerse line.
But hey, carry on.
Just to add, what you do with your line(s) is between you and Verizon.

Damn home internet is affordable!
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**** i was hitting the 200 GBs w Sprint myself. Just remember people with out us, these companies aint ****. So give em a run for there money. At some point people get screwed over by the big companies and as we being human dont like to get played so it becomes a playground w these scums. Its a win lose or win win lose lose factor. Just gotta go with it. Its to show those comps how we as spenders want what we want. Again, we give them our money to provide the service. So if people wanna go there about to doing these things.. Let em. If our president doesnt listen to what we demand than **** we push it down there throats and push the limits to get something done.
Ex: Bank wants to sell my condo for 114k but best ive been offered is 99k, so what do i do is simple tell the bank either take the money or ill foreclose. Simple as that and they took the money, I split and we happy.
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I tether on sprint and hit like 30gb but don't do it officially because they cap it. I wouldn't do it if there was an affordable decent service where I live there is only one ISP which is over prized. So sometimes its necessary to do things that are frowned upon when what you need isn't offered.
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luckylui said:
**** i was hitting the 200 GBs w Sprint myself. Just remember people with out us, these companies aint ****. So give em a run for there money. At some point people get screwed over by the big companies and as we being human dont like to get played so it becomes a playground w these scums. Its a win lose or win win lose lose factor. Just gotta go with it. Its to show those comps how we as spenders want what we want. Again, we give them our money to provide the service. So if people wanna go there about to doing these things.. Let em. If our president doesnt listen to what we demand than **** we push it down there throats and push the limits to get something done.
Ex: Bank wants to sell my condo for 114k but best ive been offered is 99k, so what do i do is simple tell the bank either take the money or ill foreclose. Simple as that and they took the money, I split and we happy.
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I hit the thanks button out of sarcasm...

People actually wonder why they are capping wireless data and throttling users?
/boggle

I play Xbox live off a terrible 3g connection just fine. I use at most 10 gigs a month if I play ALOT. I pay for an unlimited plan. Suck it if your upset because you came to Verizon late.
Edit: Verizon is capping the data because they can. Not because we use a lot of data because they can get away with it. They cap it and make you pay when you go over. They aren't doing it to be fair to the people who don't use as much they do it to make money.
tysdad08 said:
How much data do u use I want to use my phone for online but thought it would so a big red flag because Im around 3gb a month I have unlimited so I'm not to worried there just don't want vzw knowing.
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All I got from OP's post was "I'm an honest scumbag. Honest. "
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$612.00 bill for cancelling sprint does not want to work with me

Sprint does not want to work a plan to pay easily monthly or they will charge me fees . you know for great costumer service I myust say they suck big time. any suggestions

majmuni said:
Sprint does not want to work a plan to pay easily monthly or they will charge me fees . you know for great costumer service I myust say they suck big time. any suggestions
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Ummm....pay the fees and deal with it? You cancelled the contract, you have to pay the fees.
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Better yet...sell the phones that you kept and pay your fees. The only reason your bill is that high is because you have atleast 2 smart phones.

tgruendler said:
Ummm....pay the fees and deal with it? You cancelled the contract, you have to pay the fees.
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Better yet...sell the phones that you kept and pay your fees. The only reason your bill is that high is because you have atleast 2 smart phones.
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you work for sprint is that it sprint service sucks buddy and you will see one day when you need your phone the most

Why would you expect them to work with you? You broke the contract, you KNEW there were fees attached to breaking the contract.
There's dozens of ways to get out of the contract without paying a dime, but you chose the FEE route and you expect them to work with you?
You owe them $, they want their $, what else is there? If you want to fight with them, easier to take it to small claims court, which, you will probably still lose and have court fees at the same time.
Your alternative is "don't pay", and you'll screw up your credit after it goes to collections and you probably won't have to worry about cell phone bills any longer because most other providers won't touch you after they see you defaulted on another carrier.

majmuni said:
Sprint does not want to work a plan to pay easily monthly or they will charge me fees . you know for great costumer service I myust say they suck big time. any suggestions
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Yeah here's a suggestion:
Learn to read and write beyond a sixth grade reading level. If you could read and comprehend words clearly typed out on that piece of paper commonly referred to as a contract and/or Terms of Service that you got when you signed up for your service, you would come to understand that if you decided to cancel your contract you would owe sprint an early termination fee for up to $350 per phone, plus any outstanding balance tied to your account.
If you could read the posting rules for the general section of the Samsung Epic 4g Touch forum, you would understand that this isn't the place to talk about contract issues, sprint customer services issues, or billing issues. Nobody cares. Take it someplace else.
Also, learn to articulate, whether you post on this forum or any other. Watch me. I am virtually rolling my eyes at your atrocious spelling and grammar.
Mods, close this thread please.

I can smell the smoke of the flame war that will come from this.....
IBTL.edu
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I need a picture for in before lock threads ha. So in before lock
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I am seeing the flames of war.
http://Inbeforethelock.com :what:

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Don't be stupid. Keep the contract open, do some research and you'll find out how to get out of your contract with no ETF. Otherwise, buck up and pay because it is a legally binding contact you signed.

thanx you guys wow some of you are really rude way to go. you guys make someone feel really good after posting something in here. i hope you get the insults that you given me back one day and i hope its really soon. and feel the same way i feel. thanx a lot.

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you work for sprint is that it sprint service sucks buddy and you will see one day when you need your phone the most
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Don't work for Sprint, sorry.
I have had Sprint for over 10 years in the St. Louis area and never had any issues at all with them. I am sorry that you had a bad experience with them and I wish you the best of luck with another carrier but once again, you signed the contract and then cancelled. You cancelled for a reason (not sure what, you didn't enlighten us) but you still cancelled. If Sprint wasn't holding up their end of the bargain, you could have called numerous times complaining and opening tickets with them and probably could have gotten out of your contract ETF free, but from what I am suspecting, you didn't make the effort to do this so you are stuck.
Once again, good luck with whatever carrier you go with and have fun paying those ETFs.
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I almost forgot.... http://www.inbeforethelock.xxx

Compusmurf said:
Why would you expect them to work with you? You broke the contract, you KNEW there were fees attached to breaking the contract.
There's dozens of ways to get out of the contract without paying a dime, but you chose the FEE route and you expect them to work with you?
You owe them $, they want their $, what else is there? If you want to fight with them, easier to take it to small claims court, which, you will probably still lose and have court fees at the same time.
Your alternative is "don't pay", and you'll screw up your credit after it goes to collections and you probably won't have to worry about cell phone bills any longer because most other providers won't touch you after they see you defaulted on another carrier.
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That's a lie i left Sprint with a etf and i was approved for Verizon 5 lines no deposit ..
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Oh, hello there. Had to pop my head in this one. OP, sorry it isn't working out in your favor, but you're not going to get any help here. Call them and talk, call them again, and again, until they come up with something for you if you want. Posting here isn't going to do anything but cause a war. Please don't start another one. And P.S. you knew the terms of the contract when you signed. :/

Returning phones with no ETF?

Hi, I posted this question in the general xda section, but no one has replied so I am hoping someone here can respond.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811329

use a 3G roaming prl and download a TON of (legal) torrents. It might take 2 to 4 months, but they will drop you from service.
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Or....you could be civil about it. Call care, and plead your case, nicely. They have been known to allow customers out of a contract without and etf so long as the equipment gets returned, ask them if they'll make exception for you and let you do that
EDIT: never mind, I read your original post. I do think it's unreasonable to expect to not have to return the phone and not pay an etf either. Regardless of the amount you paid for the phone, you did enter a contract, and sprint ate a lot of money up front when you signed that contract.
If you feel so strongly about it, though, just cancel and eat the etf cost, and you should more than make up for it by how much you can sell the phones on eBay.
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I've been a Sprint customer for 10+ years and I've had almost zero complaints until these dang smart phones became the mainstream thing to have. Back when I had my Samsung Instinct the speeds were GOOD. For example, tethering was around 1.5mb all day long. By the time I got the EVO 4G though, things went down the toilet. Smart phones got super popular and Sprint simply couldn't handle it.
To top that off we got slapped in the face with a $10 dollar premium for 4G, oh excuse me "premium data" that doesn't even work for most of us. I have no 4G here and I' lucky to get 50kb's on 3G. I get 1.2mb on the Verizon PRL though.
I'd been using the 11115 PRL and toggling between Sprint and Verizon when I needed more speed but I've recently switched to the 00002 PRL in hopes of getting dropped. I shouldnt HAVE to toggle to Verizon to make my phone work.
I've complained to Sprint, they simply do not care. I bet they will start to care when I plug my phone in this weekend and pick some random Blue-ray sized files to torrent over 3G.
Can't wait to get over to AT&T or Verizon. I loved Sprint when it worked. I'd rather have a 5GB cap that works then unlimited that doesn't. Who cares about unlimited if you can't use it?
The plus side to having them boot me is I can keep my Epic Touch and resell it to help re-coop some of the money I feel I got scammed out of dealing with Sprint now that they don't seem to want to fix their network or compensate those of us who are/were loyal customers and are sick of this slow non-usable network.

Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.

amen sister.
I'm almost 1 year into my 2 year contract with sprint and I cannot wait until I can get out of it. I signed on because of unlimited data, which is great because I get 4g at work, but if I'm not at work or near one of the sp****ly placed 4g towers, I'm screwed.
*Edit* LOL it starred out "a" "r" "s" "e" in spar sely
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tgruendler said:
Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.
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do you have 4g wherever you go in your city?
My problem is that there are 6 4g towers placed around cincinnati and if you're not withing 1-2 miles of it, no 4g for you. Then, because we are a fairly dense market, the 3g speeds suck and the phone is almost useless.
Sprint does suck. Sprint has fallen so far behind the competition that i'm shocked that anybody ever renews a contract with them.

Yeah my service with sprint (virgin mobile) ain't great but hey I pay $25 a month for service. You just can't beat that!
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It I was paying $25 a month, I wouldn't ***** but I'm paying $108ish and I feel like I'm being kicked in the balls.
Being a 10+ year Sprint customer who has seen the service go down the drain, I have every right to complain because I know how it used to be before they decided to add all these new smart devices but not add new network to back them up.

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Or....you could be civil about it. Call care, and plead your case, nicely. They have been known to allow customers out of a contract without and etf so long as the equipment gets returned, ask them if they'll make exception for you and let you do that
EDIT: never mind, I read your original post. I do think it's unreasonable to expect to not have to return the phone and not pay an etf either. Regardless of the amount you paid for the phone, you did enter a contract, and sprint ate a lot of money up front when you signed that contract.
If you feel so strongly about it, though, just cancel and eat the etf cost, and you should more than make up for it by how much you can sell the phones on eBay.
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Yeah, I have no plans of using the Verizon PRL and get kicked. I have been in touch with customer service and it is getting to the point where they might let me out without ETF. I did not know that they would request the phones to be returned so I am trying to decide 1) if that's reasonable, and 2) if it is, then if it would be cheaper to pay ETF instead.

Tell them to refund your $200.00 dollars and you will be glad to return it.
I would be annoyed if on top of paying for the crap service they also wanted the phone back.

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Great...another thread for people to come in and post about how crappy Sprint's speed is and to teach people how to screw Sprint and the other millions of Sprint users that don't have problems (like me) by forcing your phone to roam and download tons of data.
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Agreed as well. If you sign a contract, man-up and fulfill your side of the agreement.

I totally do NOT agree with that. If you sign a contract and the provider can't provide what has been promised, the contract should be void.

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I totally do NOT agree with that. If you sign a contract and the provider can't provide what has been promised, the contract should be void.
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What exactly did they promise? They specifically do not promise any speed, ive looked.

I agree with u op. Sprint speeds have gotten a lot worse for me as well. My phone is not usable unless I'm on wifi. Its ridiculous. BUT u did sign a contract and you had two weeks to try it out. Hope it works out for u.
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The attitude of well it sucks but i did sign a contact that specifically does NOT make any speed promised etc is exactly why we keep getting screwed.
Considering I'm paying $108 dollars a month, $10 of that being for "premium data", it should at least WORK. On my phone, its unusable off wi-fi. No joke, sites can take up to 2 and 3 minutes to load and that is IF it loads. Normally something times out.
That is a load of crap, hence why I'm currently forced roaming on Verizon.

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The attitude of well it sucks but i did sign a contact that specifically does NOT make any speed promised etc is exactly why we keep getting screwed.
Considering I'm paying $108 dollars a month, $10 of that being for "premium data", it should at least WORK. On my phone, its unusable off wi-fi. No joke, sites can take up to 2 and 3 minutes to load and that is IF it loads. Normally something times out.
That is a load of crap, hence why I'm currently forced roaming on Verizon.
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If it is so bad that you cannot even use it, you need to call Sprint, and keep calling them until they either fix it or they let you out of your contract because they are not living up to their obligation to the contract. Coming on XDA and crying about it will get you nowhere. This is a development website, not a ***** fest site about the provider. Take this **** elsewhere.

I'm going to stop this before it goes any further. Sorry your speeds aren't up to par (mine aren't either), but you will need to find another way than discussing here. Contracts are contracts, no way around it. Just call and call until you get the answer you want. This will turn out to be a war and we do not need that here as we have enough of that already.

(Q) force roaming on verizon; getting booted; coming back?

im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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Dude.
How do you force roam?
I've been trying to figure it out.
And they should have sent you a warning in the mail after about 500mb of roaming, hopefully they didn't find out the scheme lol.
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long timre ago before i went to boost I asked a agent if I left sprint when could I come back to get a deal like a new customer she said 6 month.

If they boot you for excessive roaming its a 50/50 shot whether you get out without an etf. Just man up and pay it and cut your losses. Btw if you burn them they might not be so tempted to bring you back.
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devynbf said:
Dude.
How do you force roam?
I've been trying to figure it out.
And they should have sent you a warning in the mail after about 500mb of roaming, hopefully they didn't find out the scheme lol.
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U force roam by downloading the verizon prl to the root of ur internal memory, rename it to TEST.prl, the go to ur dialer and press ##3282# .. some menus come up... u click on prl write and then write prl.. phone reboots and ur done.. check ur prl number in about phone and check to see if its anything other than 5502 or what ever the new sprint prl is.
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patrao_n said:
If they boot you for excessive roaming its a 50/50 shot whether you get out without an etf. Just man up and pay it and cut your losses. Btw if you burn them they might not be so tempted to bring you back.
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The whole reason for force roaming is not wanting to pay the etf. Its not fair to have to pay alot of money for a service ur not getting.. and I live in a city that has been one of the "test" cities for both wimax and LTE. So we got it first. But doesnt seem to do us any good if they say the antennas have been upgraded but the speeds do not reflect it.
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The whole reason for force roaming is not wanting to pay the etf. Its not fair to have to pay alot of money for a service ur not getting.. and I live in a city that has been one of the "test" cities for both wimax and LTE. So we got it first. But doesnt seem to do us any good if they say the antennas have been upgraded but the speeds do not reflect it.
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It's not fair people like you are too cheap to honor your contract either. It's people who do sh!t like this thay cause prices for the rest of us to increase and perks to be taken away. Sprint has to make money or they can't stay in business. You signed the contract be an adult and honor it. Pay the ETF if you want out instead of finding a loophole to fraudulently break it. Hopefully sprint catches on to this soon and instead of dropping people etf free slap em with a collections debt after cutting em off and make em pay the etf AND roaming charges they racked up trying to get out.
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I agree it is un fair to not pay the ETF. If you singed a contract you have to honor it. Sprint has always been fair to me when I was having problems before they updated to LTE and while they were updating they offered me to get out my contact free because they could see I was having real bad voice and everything. I told them nope ill deal with it so they gave me a 275$ credit my bill was 75 for 3 lines for 4 months and now I get 15+ download all day anf 1-5 up it great and im glad I waited out
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It's not fair people like you are too cheap to honor your contract either. It's people who do sh!t like this thay cause prices for the rest of us to increase and perks to be taken away. Sprint has to make money or they can't stay in business. You signed the contract be an adult and honor it. Pay the ETF if you want out instead of finding a loophole to fraudulently break it. Hopefully sprint catches on to this soon and instead of dropping people etf free slap em with a collections debt after cutting em off and make em pay the etf AND roaming charges they racked up trying to get out.
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kanyewest said:
im trying to get out of contract cause sprint service sucks at my new address and also when i need it the most, around town, i just do not get any data even with full bars (signal). So im roaming on verizon, using about 2gb a day.
My question is, how long after i get booted from sprint can i start a new contract? Im comtemplating coming back to sprint cause im might move in the near future.
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There is no point in being booted on purpose to just come back later. If that's the case then just wait it out. If you really want to get it I would call them and tell them service really sucks and if they can compensate you. I waited out and now little by little Sprint is getting better and better. I just hit lte in my town and hopefully it will be announced officially.
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I agree with the above.
Actually, it's what the OP purposes that has made it illegal to jailbreak/root phones, again, and try to bring them to another carrier. The carriers complained the government about how much money they loose because of it.
As for the OP issue, check your contract, but you might have some unlimited roaming; I forget if it's data or voice. On the same note, the bars you see, usually have little do with data; that's for voice. Thus, you go by the data connection icons--3g, 4g, etc. With that said, if it's really you may want to check out the Sprint coverage map. There is also another map that shows worked done and scheduled to done. I know for me, I get 3G and 4G around where I live. It's not everywhere. 4G speeds are no where near what I see other posts; I get in the 5 to 7mpbs down, and about 1mbps up on 4G, and around 1.5mpbs down, and .75mpbs up on 3g.
I would call Sprint and let them know your issue. It's possible they'll give you one of those 4G adapters that you can use at home with your internet. I'm not sure it's just for voice, or does data as well. I realize this may work because of lack of home internet.
Lastly, do you have the same issue inside buildings versus outside. If inside, it's possible that radio signal just can't penetrate the walls. Concrete is a notorious for this on the radio frequency that Sprint uses.

budde2 said:
I agree it is un fair to not pay the ETF. If you singed a contract you have to honor it. Sprint has always been fair to me when I was having problems before they updated to LTE and while they were updating they offered me to get out my contact free because they could see I was having real bad voice and everything. I told them nope ill deal with it so they gave me a 275$ credit my bill was 75 for 3 lines for 4 months and now I get 15+ download all day anf 1-5 up it great and im glad I waited out
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only in america do we get phones for 199.00 and under....and it is ETF's and contract fees that make up the lost dollars..Note 2 in Japan...yeah $800 american dollars..no discounts..upgrades none of that..you want it...you buy it..
so quit your crying and put your big boy pants on.

I've been on Verizon PRL for over 2gb and they haven't even told me anything lol...
Trying to get out of this and get at&t
Freaking 55mb down speed in my town with at&t
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devynbf said:
I've been on Verizon PRL for over 2gb and they haven't even told me anything lol...
Trying to get out of this and get at&t
Freaking 55mb down speed in my town with at&t
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It takes several months and lately they haven't been letting people out ETF free. They usually send a warning letter then if you don't stop they charge you for the roaming per mb or they drop you and charge you a non prorated ETF so you pay the full ETF. Occasionally if there's upgrades in your area they let you out free or they just let the roaming slide and do nothing at all. Its a 50/50 shot either you're out free or still on contract or you're out with a nice bill and a hit on your credit report when you don't pay it. The majority of posts I've seen lately are you get hit with a bill. Probably due to the Softbank merger and the money they are pouring into the network, they have to recoup their losses or they won't stay in business. Not to mention you signed a contract agreeing to pay your bill or ETF and it states right in the contract roaming data is capped at 300mb a month or the majority of data used, voice is 800min or majority of minutes used.
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It takes several months and lately they haven't been letting people out ETF free. They usually send a warning letter then if you don't stop they charge you for the roaming per mb or they drop you and charge you a non prorated ETF so you pay the full ETF. Occasionally if there's upgrades in your area they let you out free or they just let the roaming slide and do nothing at all. Its a 50/50 shot either you're out free or still on contract or you're out with a nice bill and a hit on your credit report when you don't pay it. The majority of posts I've seen lately are you get hit with a bill. Probably due to the Softbank merger and the money they are pouring into the network, they have to recoup their losses or they won't stay in business. Not to mention you signed a contract agreeing to pay your bill or ETF and it states right in the contract roaming data is capped at 300mb a month or the majority of data used, voice is 800min or majority of minutes used.
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Where in the world are people getting the idea that you get out ETF free?
Not ONLY will they put a collections record against you if you don't pay the ETF (and they will charge you), they can per the contract charge you for the roaming.
I've been dealing with slow data speeds in my market for almost 3 years now. I'm talking 300kbps 3G if I'm LUCKY! MAX I've seen is 700 and that's at 4AM on a Tuesday.
It's STILL the best deal in town for a truly unlimited plan. Verizon, ATT blow donkey balls with the ****ty 5GB cap or whatever it is. Then you've got T-Mobile trying to pass off HSPA+ as 4G...
I'm sorry, I use more data than that. Not all the time, and not alot more, but I average 5-8 a month... No tethering as my Note2 is my computer now. I'm on wifi ALOT, but still enjoy mobile streaming, and that just eats up bandwidth.
Either deal with it, or sell your phone and use the profit to pay the ETF like a grown up. Burning up Verizon's bandwidth is going to do nothing but add to a statistic for reasons why carriers either A) won't allow roaming or B) be the cause for some BS legislation making rooting a freaking criminal offense.

poor_red_neck said:
Where in the world are people getting the idea that you get out ETF free?
Not ONLY will they put a collections record against you if you don't pay the ETF (and they will charge you), they can per the contract charge you for the roaming.
I've been dealing with slow data speeds in my market for almost 3 years now. I'm talking 300kbps 3G if I'm LUCKY! MAX I've seen is 700 and that's at 4AM on a Tuesday.
It's STILL the best deal in town for a truly unlimited plan. Verizon, ATT blow donkey balls with the ****ty 5GB cap or whatever it is. Then you've got T-Mobile trying to pass off HSPA+ as 4G...
I'm sorry, I use more data than that. Not all the time, and not alot more, but I average 5-8 a month... No tethering as my Note2 is my computer now. I'm on wifi ALOT, but still enjoy mobile streaming, and that just eats up bandwidth.
Either deal with it, or sell your phone and use the profit to pay the ETF like a grown up. Burning up Verizon's bandwidth is going to do nothing but add to a statistic for reasons why carriers either A) won't allow roaming or B) be the cause for some BS legislation making rooting a freaking criminal offense.
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Because for the last few years instead of dealing with the whiny people who want to roam their way out of the contract sprint just terminated them with no penalties. Now however sprint's balls are finally starting to drop and they ARE charging at least the ETF and sometimes the ETF and roaming charges. Other times they just slap a charge on your bill for all the roaming and leave you contract bound. The roaming loophole has gotten a few out and then they post about it so every cheapskate that doesn't want to pay or wait but wants out has done it. Sprint's finally getting sick of it but they still aren't consistent enough to nail everyone. I think they should put the persons ssn# in a database and bar them from any telecommunications contracts and stiff em with prepaid only. Or have some kind of special plans for people who show a flag for weaseling out of the contract and block them from ever roaming so they're stuck not being able to rack up a bunch of charges for the carrier cuz they don't wanna hold up their end of the agreement. In my line of work you pull **** like this and we charge you with felony fraud and put your ass in jail for doing shady **** to breach your contract.
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Because for the last few years instead of dealing with the whiny people who want to roam their way out of the contract sprint just terminated them with no penalties. Now however sprint's balls are finally starting to drop and they ARE charging at least the ETF and sometimes the ETF and roaming charges. Other times they just slap a charge on your bill for all the roaming and leave you contract bound. The roaming loophole has gotten a few out and then they post about it so every cheapskate that doesn't want to pay or wait but wants out has done it. Sprint's finally getting sick of it but they still aren't consistent enough to nail everyone. I think they should put the persons ssn# in a database and bar them from any telecommunications contracts and stiff em with prepaid only. Or have some kind of special plans for people who show a flag for weaseling out of the contract and block them from ever roaming so they're stuck not being able to rack up a bunch of charges for the carrier cuz they don't wanna hold up their end of the agreement. In my line of work you pull **** like this and we charge you with felony fraud and put your ass in jail for doing shady **** to breach your contract.
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Well the Sprint should upgrade because I don't even get a Sprint signal . In my own home, I have to be on a Verizon PRL to even text or make phone calls in my own house.
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devynbf said:
Well the Sprint should upgrade because I don't even get a Sprint signal . In my own home, I have to be on a Verizon PRL to even text or make phone calls in my own house.
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Maybe you should pay your etf and switch providers. You had 14days to cancel your contract free when you signed up that's more than enough time to figure out sprint doesn't work at your house. Or call and request an airrave.
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If your going to be coming back eventually anyway. Call and have your acct put on seasonal standby. Costs 8 $ a month but your acct will be in tact when ya come back. As for ETFs, good luck. The only exception to waiving it for now is. If your a Nextel user and they migrate you to cdma and you don't have any coverage. And by coverage I mean, no Sprint towers around. They use the coverage map to determine coverage not user experience. OR You recently moved to an area with no Sprint coverage, again no coverage per the coverage map.
The roaming situation does not work anymore due to contracts with other carriers for use of network. I can't tell you the last time I seen someone get booted due to roaming. Hell 90% of North Dakota is Off Network and we have several thousand subscribers up there.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Maybe you should pay your etf and switch providers. You had 14days to cancel your contract free when you signed up that's more than enough time to figure out sprint doesn't work at your house. Or call and request an airrave.
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Well I moved 2 months after getting onto Sprint. I got a good signal at my previous home but don't get a single bar at my new home.
I'm damn sure not paying 400 dollars to get out of the contract when I could stay on Verizon's PRL and wait until 4g hits.
If it ever does.
At this rate we won't get it until next year.
$90 bucks a month for data that barely works.
$90 bucks a month on a plan I thought was gonna cost $70, because that's what I signed up for.
Frankly, Sprint sucks.
Simple as that.
Seriously Sprint needs to step up their game...
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