I know it's a frequent asked question, but i was reading a lot threads and still don't know what is the best way to root and s off your device. and i dont know if i need eng s-off to flash roms or only radio s-off and what radio does AAHK flash on my phone. If someone has the time to help me i would be really thankfull.
I think that the best and easiest way to root and S-OFF DHD is the method described by jkoljo.
1. First of all if You have ROM higher than 1.32.405.6 WWE, you need a downgrade http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003 guide by jkoljo.
2. You need your Desire HD S-OFF. jkoljo created a tool to do that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
3. Third and the last step is Desire HD Radio S-OFF. And another great tool by jkoljo is One click Radio S-OFF tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
That's it! Don't be afraid if something goes wrong, You can repeat every step with no risk of brick your device.
But flashing a radio is more risky operation.
If you would like to flash another radio use the method described by leith51 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 it's also very easy.
It's hard to say what radio is the best. It depends for example where do You live. Very often Developers recommends the best radio for their ROM.
Thanks for the help!
I'm still thinking about what method to use because some people say that one is better then the other and so on. Even tho i rooted and s-offed my HTC Desire without a problem it scares me a little bit more. Since i bought my DHD 3 days ago and my desire was 7 moths old when i first rooted him. My only concern in bricking my device, everything else can be fixed.
Edit: LorD ClockaN if you see this, your private message quota is full so i can't send you anything
jkoljo's tools are safe, I used them twice because i had to sent my DHD repair under guarantee, just read and will be no problems. Also with flashing radios, i flashed many times, good luck
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Hi guys,
the last time I tried to S-OFF my Desire Z it bricked and I had to send it back.
It was the hboot method and it worked for my first Z, which I also had to send back because of a faulty touchscreen.
Now, I don't want to get in a position, where I start to question my own abilities to read and understand instructions, even if they are in english
Sorry for my noobness
thanks
I would recommend the "rage" method of rooting - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228
Then use "gfree" to get radio S-OFF - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
Only once you have gfree, you can then put the engineering hboot back on if you really want, which gives you extra fastboot options.
Hi guys,
I've been reading through the forums over the past two days but I have to admit it's hard to find what I am looking for now that the G2 forum and the DZ forum are merged, and the search isn't getting me anywhere for this one.
I have Bell Canada Desire Z permarooted and S-OFF'd, with CWMod. I did this before the newer gfree method and from what I can gather this can lead me to some kind of endless loop if I try to flash back to the a Bell RUU or other RUUs for that matter. It also worries me that I can't try new radios, etc.
I am getting very poor battery life compared to others so I want to have my phone replaced. I have an extended warranty from FutureShop so I probably don't even need to reset the phone to stock again (they swap on the spot) but I would like to anyway. It will also allow me to test the battery again with the stock ROM.
So, how do I go about flashing back to the Bell ROM and turning S-ON, and unrooting? Keeping in mind that I used the pre-gfree method. I believe it was Visionary R12 and gtab's guide.
Also as the title implies, I was wondering if it's possible to use the new (better) S-OFF even if I am already S-OFF'd the old way?
Any help is appreciated!
You can use gfree and achieve "real" S-OFF without having to unroot.
Just run it. Worst that'll happen is it fails if you happen to be on a kernel it doesn't like. If this happens, no harm is done, just a reboot.
Just run gfree from where you are, as the previous poster said.
That will put you in a much safer position, where you can get stuck in that boot loop that you can if you've only got the eng hboot.
Then you can flash whichever ROM you want. Then you can undo gfree if you want via its new options (see the Wiki).
Regarding your point about the merger, IMHO this issue isn't anything to do with the DZ specifically, and lots of users are posting about similar stuff with their G2s. It's all the same
Thanks guys,
I've done gfree (which is MUCH easier than the thread and wiki make it look - they need to simplify the text, it's overwhelming to look at given how simple the procedure is) and flashed the Bell RUU.
Now I am just about to root, and use gfree to undo the S-OFF I guess?
Will let you know how that turns out. Thanks again!
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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I'd keep that backup file as it is a dump of your original partition 7 before gfree mods it. You can dd i back and put everything back to how it was, if you ever need to. Do you need to keep it on the phone? No.. store it somewhere on your PC.
With the old "fake" S-OFF you would get stuck if you flashed a stock rom because it would overwrite the engineering HBOOT which was the only thing making your phone think it had S-OFF. With gfree method, you have real S-OFF, so this should be fine.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484 for details.
tl;dr You should be fine.
Hm,little bit confused!
The backup I need to get original original partition 7
but not to get S-On.
To get S-On I can use the new gfree method,it`s now
possible with this!
I did the old UBERROOT method with real S-Off!
P.S.I read here about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
Not 100% sure I understand the question...but:
You don't need that backup file. If you delete it nothing bad will happen. Paranoid people (like me) would copy it to a safe place, but there's no real need.
You can flash whatever roms you like, including stock ones, as long as you have real, radio (gfree) S-OFF.
Hi guys, thanks for the help! I got it all settled, it was easy.
As I mentioned above, I used gfree to do a true S-OFF, which was easy.
Then I ran Bell's RUU and it worked without any issues. I assume the RUU install also flashes the HTC recovery back to the phone, I didn't check but it must..
A little summary for anyone who needs help in the future..
If you rooted/S-OFF'd using a method older than the current rage/gfree method (the one in the wiki) then you need to redo the S-OFF using gfree.
Steps:
Use gfree -f to S-OFF again
Run the stock RUU file on your pc (you need HTC sync installed for this)
Temproot (first part of the wiki guide) the stock ROM
Use gfree -s on to S-ON your phone
Reboot, and everything should appear like stock (aside from still being sim-unlocked).
Were u sucessful in returning your phone to htc after u did the above?
I didn't have to return it to htc, just to future shop, and it was fine.
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This will all probably sound extremely nooby but just want to make sure I dont do anything to break my new DHD!
I've previously had experience rooting and flashing ROMS on a Htc Hero and that seemed much simpler.
Basically what I want to know is, if I have a branded Orange DHD do i need to use a goldcard in order to flash ROMS like Android Revolution or is a gold card just if I want to a flash a HTC stock ROM? I've tried reading up on this but I'm still unsure...
And also, does rooting and flashing Roms and Radios affect the sim card at all or does it just affect the device itself?
Your similar card is fine no matter what you do, unless you try and bend it!
The process of flashing ROMs is exactly the same as the HTC Hero, my old phone, however some processes need to be run before you can flash.
If you have a branded Orange handset and firmware 1.72/1.84 you will need to downgrade to 1.32 before you can root and start these processes, ENG S-OFF & Radio S-OFF (Optional).
I will link an excellent guide that has all the info you need.
Here are the excellent guides
Downgrading --> [GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6 - Includes goldcard creation.
ENG S-OFF --> [TOOL] One click ENG S-OFF
Radio S-OFF --> [TOOL][VIDEO] One click Radio S-OFF, SimUnlock (Easy Root & S-OFF Guide)
Guides by jkoljo
Once you have done everything, simply install ROM Manager from the market, flash Recovery from within there, Download your chosen ROM, flash from Recovery.
One point to note,
If you intend to flash a 2.2 (Froyo) ROM use a 2.x.x.x Recovery
If you intend to flash a 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM use 3.x.x.x
thanks a lot, sorry to be a pain but the thing I'm really unclear about is if my DHD is Orange branded, but my firmware is 1.40.61.2 do i still need to downgrade to 1.32?
I don't know to be honest. Try running Visionary+ and see if you can root. If you can, then you don't need to downgrade.
Your firmware seems.to be rootable
Tapatalked with Tapatalk from my Desire HD using Tapatalk.
And I can confirm it, no need to downgrade
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good info
well - just got myself a DHD today - should be with me soon !!! Nice !!!,
Thanks for the little Q & A on this matter, really helpful, As of yet I dont know what is on the phone - but Ill study the guides and see how I go. Ive previously toyed with last 2 HTC's ( Orbit & Polaris/Orbit 2 ) - that was fairly easy - but was a while ago so Im a little out of touch with these matters.
LoL - ill probabbly be back soon firing questions at you guys for help and guidance
Any guides for the pure DHD noob ??, explanation of phrases ect , As im a total virgin to the Android world
Hi dayze0
dayze0 said:
well - just got myself a DHD today - should be with me soon !!! Nice !!!,
Thanks for the little Q & A on this matter, really helpful, As of yet I dont know what is on the phone - but Ill study the guides and see how I go. Ive previously toyed with last 2 HTC's ( Orbit & Polaris/Orbit 2 ) - that was fairly easy - but was a while ago so Im a little out of touch with these matters.
LoL - ill probabbly be back soon firing questions at you guys for help and guidance
Any guides for the pure DHD noob ??, explanation of phrases ect , As im a total virgin to the Android world
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You should find most of the link you should need here:- DHD Development Sticky Roll-Up Thread
Take Care
TheQuest
andyharney said:
Here are the excellent guides
Downgrading --> [GUIDE] How to downgrade 1.7x/1.8x/2.x to 1.32.405.6 - Includes goldcard creation.
ENG S-OFF --> [TOOL] One click ENG S-OFF
Radio S-OFF --> [TOOL][VIDEO] One click Radio S-OFF, SimUnlock (Easy Root & S-OFF Guide)
Guides by jkoljo
Once you have done everything, simply install ROM Manager from the market, flash Recovery from within there, Download your chosen ROM, flash from Recovery.
One point to note,
If you intend to flash a 2.2 (Froyo) ROM use a 2.x.x.x Recovery
If you intend to flash a 2.3 (Gingerbread) ROM use 3.x.x.x
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thhx
Hi,
I've been doing some research on how to successfully flash my phone and put a custom rom on it. I have a Desire HD running 2.2. This is shown in the bootloader:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.85.0007
Radio-26.03.02.26_M
And from About Phone, I got this:
Software number 1.37.771.3
Now from what I've learnt, I need to downgrade to a earlier version of the software, to 1.32. I looked online, and found that some people said if you used a specific way to turn security off, then certain things won't work.
On looking at some of the threads, some linked to this to turn it off:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
However, is this the best way to do it. I was going to use this webpage:
http://igyaan.in/2011/01/how-to-root-htc-desire-hd-included-downgrade-from-1-72-405-3-to-1-32/
However, when looking oat the CyanogenMod wiki page for the HTC Desire HD (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_HD:_Rooting), they was advising you not to use Visionary (Which the other guide does advise) and use BusyBox, Superuser and Temporary Root.
So, could someone please help. As I'm getting different advise all over.
Thanks
Use the guides here in XDA. You will get the best support. Places like igyaan.in just copy our guides. So your first step is that radio s-off tool.
jkoljo said:
Use the guides here in XDA. You will get the best support. Places like igyaan.in just copy our guides. So your first step is that radio s-off tool.
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Thanks. On the tool, it says it needs:
It will not work on 1.72.405.3 or higher build, or new radio (12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M is ok). Downgrade first!!
So as my software number is 1.37.771.3, should that work? My baseband version however is 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M, which while it says is ok, my baseband version has the letter U just after 140e, so what do I do.
Sorry if this has been answered multiple times before.
Of course it is ok, 1.37 is not 1.72 or higher than it. Use some logic, mate
What about the baseband version though? I understand it's nearly the same version, but as it has another letter in the version name, I thought I'd ask before I go ahead or not.
baseband is completely independent from the Rom. There are only those that go "well" toghether and some that dont. But its different for everyone... so. Yeah, most rom cookers give you a recommendation on RadioRom (=Baseband). I'd go with that first. But you can do the Baseband changing stuff later.
That baseband is ok for the tool.
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Hi, I tried using your tool. However on Visionary, I tried to temproot, then it restarted the HTC Sense launcher, then I relaunched Visionary and tried to attempt permroot, but it said I had to have a temproot first.
Any help? Thanks
Try temprooting again. It might take a few tries.
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hey there,
just got a desire yesterday. currently have a rooted hero, so im not exactly a beginner, but im completely stumped on how to root my desire.
its o2 branded with hboot 0.93 on 2.2
cannot use unrevoked, it comes up with a 'failed to unlock nand flash?' error.
i believe this is because it needs to be downgraded first
ive followed the goldcard tut, as well as the downgrade tut
found on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
however, i get a 'main version is older' error when trying to flash the .zip created by the downgrade.
really want to do this, so any help would be appreciated.
http://revolutionary.io/
But read documentary page very carefully before doing anything!
thanks for that link.
i had seen that previously but saw the public beta, and the warnings and didnt think i should mess with it!
looking at the documentation, it says that it supports the desire with hboot 0.93.
is it safe to assume that because my desire has 0.93, that conventional methods wont work, and that only 'revolutionary' will?
revolutionary is absolutely safe, used is MANY times and so have a million others.
instead of rooting, just use revolutionary to S-OFF, then flash recovery during the process (it asks you if you want to), then backup your ROM, do a full wipe and then flash anyone that you want, or flash superuser.zip to root. either way is good
revolutionary worked great, thanks alot it was just what i was after.
will be downloading a custom rom now
just discovered that the earpiece is messed up, so will be needing to replace that
i suppose it gives me a reason to open it up lol
personally I'd send to HTC, that way you know it was done correctly
if the phone was new, i would.
but its used and cant be bothered with the hassle
the part is cheap, and when it comes to things like changing earpieces etc, i find it easy