Hi guys,
the last time I tried to S-OFF my Desire Z it bricked and I had to send it back.
It was the hboot method and it worked for my first Z, which I also had to send back because of a faulty touchscreen.
Now, I don't want to get in a position, where I start to question my own abilities to read and understand instructions, even if they are in english
Sorry for my noobness
thanks
I would recommend the "rage" method of rooting - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834228
Then use "gfree" to get radio S-OFF - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855764
Only once you have gfree, you can then put the engineering hboot back on if you really want, which gives you extra fastboot options.
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Hi guys,
I've been reading through the forums over the past two days but I have to admit it's hard to find what I am looking for now that the G2 forum and the DZ forum are merged, and the search isn't getting me anywhere for this one.
I have Bell Canada Desire Z permarooted and S-OFF'd, with CWMod. I did this before the newer gfree method and from what I can gather this can lead me to some kind of endless loop if I try to flash back to the a Bell RUU or other RUUs for that matter. It also worries me that I can't try new radios, etc.
I am getting very poor battery life compared to others so I want to have my phone replaced. I have an extended warranty from FutureShop so I probably don't even need to reset the phone to stock again (they swap on the spot) but I would like to anyway. It will also allow me to test the battery again with the stock ROM.
So, how do I go about flashing back to the Bell ROM and turning S-ON, and unrooting? Keeping in mind that I used the pre-gfree method. I believe it was Visionary R12 and gtab's guide.
Also as the title implies, I was wondering if it's possible to use the new (better) S-OFF even if I am already S-OFF'd the old way?
Any help is appreciated!
You can use gfree and achieve "real" S-OFF without having to unroot.
Just run it. Worst that'll happen is it fails if you happen to be on a kernel it doesn't like. If this happens, no harm is done, just a reboot.
Just run gfree from where you are, as the previous poster said.
That will put you in a much safer position, where you can get stuck in that boot loop that you can if you've only got the eng hboot.
Then you can flash whichever ROM you want. Then you can undo gfree if you want via its new options (see the Wiki).
Regarding your point about the merger, IMHO this issue isn't anything to do with the DZ specifically, and lots of users are posting about similar stuff with their G2s. It's all the same
Thanks guys,
I've done gfree (which is MUCH easier than the thread and wiki make it look - they need to simplify the text, it's overwhelming to look at given how simple the procedure is) and flashed the Bell RUU.
Now I am just about to root, and use gfree to undo the S-OFF I guess?
Will let you know how that turns out. Thanks again!
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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I'd keep that backup file as it is a dump of your original partition 7 before gfree mods it. You can dd i back and put everything back to how it was, if you ever need to. Do you need to keep it on the phone? No.. store it somewhere on your PC.
With the old "fake" S-OFF you would get stuck if you flashed a stock rom because it would overwrite the engineering HBOOT which was the only thing making your phone think it had S-OFF. With gfree method, you have real S-OFF, so this should be fine.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484 for details.
tl;dr You should be fine.
Hm,little bit confused!
The backup I need to get original original partition 7
but not to get S-On.
To get S-On I can use the new gfree method,it`s now
possible with this!
I did the old UBERROOT method with real S-Off!
P.S.I read here about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
Not 100% sure I understand the question...but:
You don't need that backup file. If you delete it nothing bad will happen. Paranoid people (like me) would copy it to a safe place, but there's no real need.
You can flash whatever roms you like, including stock ones, as long as you have real, radio (gfree) S-OFF.
Hi guys, thanks for the help! I got it all settled, it was easy.
As I mentioned above, I used gfree to do a true S-OFF, which was easy.
Then I ran Bell's RUU and it worked without any issues. I assume the RUU install also flashes the HTC recovery back to the phone, I didn't check but it must..
A little summary for anyone who needs help in the future..
If you rooted/S-OFF'd using a method older than the current rage/gfree method (the one in the wiki) then you need to redo the S-OFF using gfree.
Steps:
Use gfree -f to S-OFF again
Run the stock RUU file on your pc (you need HTC sync installed for this)
Temproot (first part of the wiki guide) the stock ROM
Use gfree -s on to S-ON your phone
Reboot, and everything should appear like stock (aside from still being sim-unlocked).
Were u sucessful in returning your phone to htc after u did the above?
I didn't have to return it to htc, just to future shop, and it was fine.
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Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom
please need some quick advice before i root
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Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom
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Installing eng hboot is not needed if you want to root but it is a good idea to have because
it will let you use fastboot commands ,lets say for any reason your recovery fail,you will
have the option to recover your phone through fastboot ,also you will need it if you want
to try different radios. However, if you want to install eng hboot ,you must be very carefull
when doing so otherwise you could brick your phone. make sure you follow every step and make sure that you are installing the the right one .(g2 and desire z have specific hboots).
wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?
evilcuber said:
wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?
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since you live in canada i assume you have a desire z not a g2 so you do not have to change your hboot for unity ,i didnt say you are more likely to brick your phone if you install eng hboot ,i said it is a good idea to install eng hboot so if for any reason your recovery fails you will have
an option to use fastboot and fix your phone, and then i said be very carefull when installing hboot and make sure you install the right hboot because g2 and desire z partition sizes are different so make sure if you have a desire z you are installing the one for desire z not the one that is for the g2. and make sure you type in the commands exactly like it said in the wiki .
(also seems like the wiki has changed since i was doing this, because i remember installing eng hboot was marked
as optional in the wiki before but now everything is different so you might actually need the eng boot now, i am not %100 sure i would wait for someone else to confirm what i said.)
Thanks for your help, i successfully rooted my htc desire z
@evilcuber May I use your thread to ask an additional question regarding hboot ?
I rooted my French DZ some times ago, I followed a tutorial from cyanogenmod wiki, most probably this one (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting) but I do not remember flashing an engineering hboot.
As I would like to install Unity, I have to check my phone runs the right hboot. Here is the information I have :
Thanks for your help !
I think that as long as you have a DZ and not a G2, your hboot should be fine
hey there,
just got a desire yesterday. currently have a rooted hero, so im not exactly a beginner, but im completely stumped on how to root my desire.
its o2 branded with hboot 0.93 on 2.2
cannot use unrevoked, it comes up with a 'failed to unlock nand flash?' error.
i believe this is because it needs to be downgraded first
ive followed the goldcard tut, as well as the downgrade tut
found on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
however, i get a 'main version is older' error when trying to flash the .zip created by the downgrade.
really want to do this, so any help would be appreciated.
http://revolutionary.io/
But read documentary page very carefully before doing anything!
thanks for that link.
i had seen that previously but saw the public beta, and the warnings and didnt think i should mess with it!
looking at the documentation, it says that it supports the desire with hboot 0.93.
is it safe to assume that because my desire has 0.93, that conventional methods wont work, and that only 'revolutionary' will?
revolutionary is absolutely safe, used is MANY times and so have a million others.
instead of rooting, just use revolutionary to S-OFF, then flash recovery during the process (it asks you if you want to), then backup your ROM, do a full wipe and then flash anyone that you want, or flash superuser.zip to root. either way is good
revolutionary worked great, thanks alot it was just what i was after.
will be downloading a custom rom now
just discovered that the earpiece is messed up, so will be needing to replace that
i suppose it gives me a reason to open it up lol
personally I'd send to HTC, that way you know it was done correctly
if the phone was new, i would.
but its used and cant be bothered with the hassle
the part is cheap, and when it comes to things like changing earpieces etc, i find it easy
I know it's a frequent asked question, but i was reading a lot threads and still don't know what is the best way to root and s off your device. and i dont know if i need eng s-off to flash roms or only radio s-off and what radio does AAHK flash on my phone. If someone has the time to help me i would be really thankfull.
I think that the best and easiest way to root and S-OFF DHD is the method described by jkoljo.
1. First of all if You have ROM higher than 1.32.405.6 WWE, you need a downgrade http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003 guide by jkoljo.
2. You need your Desire HD S-OFF. jkoljo created a tool to do that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
3. Third and the last step is Desire HD Radio S-OFF. And another great tool by jkoljo is One click Radio S-OFF tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
That's it! Don't be afraid if something goes wrong, You can repeat every step with no risk of brick your device.
But flashing a radio is more risky operation.
If you would like to flash another radio use the method described by leith51 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 it's also very easy.
It's hard to say what radio is the best. It depends for example where do You live. Very often Developers recommends the best radio for their ROM.
Thanks for the help!
I'm still thinking about what method to use because some people say that one is better then the other and so on. Even tho i rooted and s-offed my HTC Desire without a problem it scares me a little bit more. Since i bought my DHD 3 days ago and my desire was 7 moths old when i first rooted him. My only concern in bricking my device, everything else can be fixed.
Edit: LorD ClockaN if you see this, your private message quota is full so i can't send you anything
jkoljo's tools are safe, I used them twice because i had to sent my DHD repair under guarantee, just read and will be no problems. Also with flashing radios, i flashed many times, good luck
So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
ch3mn3y said:
So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
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Hey buddy,
Take a look through the first few posts here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266&page=16
It may seem like a lot but it will be worth it
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
ch3mn3y said:
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
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Correct, you have what we call fake s-off and only gives you a bit of help flashing your phone, to get true s-off the preferred method is to go back to stock and then downgrade and root with gfree
Relatively easy but a few steps needed first
If you have a chance to go to g2root on freenode iirc there is a good likelihood that guhl is there and will walk you through it all
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
demkantor said:
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
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If You have time I would be grateful for advices how ro get from GB fake S-OFF to Recovery..
If not I will try tonight or tomorrow with this channel You wrote
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EDIT: It seems I have more time that I thought, so I'm checkin this g2root irc and waiting for someones answer
However if somebody could answer me one thing: With this fake S-OFF is it safe to downgrade using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Is it needed?
And what exactly S-OFF gives? Fastboot access like this Eng HBoot (at the beginning thought that it's HBoot from UK DZ/G2 )? Coz thats what I need : to flash CWM and than KK.
Downgraded, flashed Eng HBoot and CWM and KK is here. But I dont like it [emoji14] GB is coming...
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