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Incredible vs incredible II

Which is the better phone overall? Which has the biggest/best dev community? What are the pros and cons?
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Incred 2 is a bigger screen, faster processor, and more RAM. Also, its a global phone.

sjpritch25 said:
Incred 2 is a bigger screen, faster processor, and more RAM. Also, its a global phone.
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Thanks! Yes I knew it had a bigger screen 4" I think vs 3.7. But faster processer? What are the clock speeds on the two phones? I thought the dinc was clocked at 1000.
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DI2 running SkyRaider Zeus R1.3, stock kernel with Quadrant score of 1446 - benchmarked 350% faster than my Droid Eris, working Flash Player & playing Hulu nicely ....

I loved my Inc1... But the Inc2 is what the original should have been at launch. I only miss the red accents. Perfect size for a phone. Not gigantic and ugly like the Moto Razr Tablet and not too small like how my Inc1 feels now.
Love this phone just wish it was 4g
Loved the Inc1 dev community but the Inc2 is growing and has everything I need. Virtuous, Cm7, and the fifteen million Newt roms.
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I came from a Droid X and I must say, I love this phone. Unlocked bootloader, sweet roms.
It does, however, seem quite a bit smaller in my pocket, which it good, and in hand, which is not as good.
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and the fifteen million Newt roms.
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Hehe made me lol
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Incredible 2 , if it will be used as CDMA , there are many Sense 3.5 Roms and dev community for that . But if you are Using GSM , there are only very few roms that support Global Mode and the max available is Sense 3

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Incredible 2 , if it will be used as CDMA , there are many Sense 3.5 Roms and dev community for that . But if you are Using GSM , there are only very few roms that support Global Mode and the max available is Sense 3
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It would be used as CDMA. Do both phones have the same clock speed? And what is the difference in ram?
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They have the same speed but the core in this phone is newer and has a faster GPU.

mkropf said:
It would be used as CDMA. Do both phones have the same clock speed? And what is the difference in ram?
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dinc1 has 512mb of ram, dinc2 has 768 i believe
as for faster processor, clock speed isnt everything. Just try out a 1.6ghz atom and compare it to a 1.6ghz i3. The snapdragon in the Dinc2 is a new chip, with a smaller architecture and better power management, with a newer GPU.
Not to be an ass, but honestly you're comparing an older phone to a newer one. The Dinc2 is an all around better phone simply because it has some more refined components in it.
As for the dev community, this phone has quite an active one. We have 2 different ICS ports (one on xda, the other on rootzwiki), countless sense roms, TSM poolparty, OMFGB, OMGB, CM7, MIUI, etc. We have nearly anything you could want running on this phone out, or in the pipeline.
This is a great device and if you're looking to get one, i'd recommend it.

100% agreed.
I started with the HTC Eris
Then the D INC 1
and now D INC 2, and all 3 were great phones. But the INC2 just blows the INC1 out of the water. Is the Inc1 still a nice phone? Yes. Is the INC2 much better? Yes.

andybones said:
100% agreed.
I started with the HTC Eris
Then the D INC 1
and now D INC 2, and all 3 were great phones. But the INC2 just blows the INC1 out of the water. Is the Inc1 still a nice phone? Yes. Is the INC2 much better? Yes.
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Agreed. My wife has the inc1 with an amoled screen and this is still wayyyy better. I miss my Eris sometimes lol
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knipp21 said:
Agreed. My wife has the inc1 with an amoled screen and this is still wayyyy better. I miss my Eris sometimes lol
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Lol I feel so young in smartphone years. The DINC2 is my first one. I had jailbroken my iPod touch and messed around with themes and stuff and even downloaded a thing to make my own, but I got this and I can't go back to iOS unless I was forced to. I love this phone. It's very smooth running, and I wouldn't trade it for anything lol. Except maybe an s-off rezound or something
I know it doesn't exist yet, but I'd love to see it haha.
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tylerlawhon said:
Lol I feel so young in smartphone years. The DINC2 is my first one. I had jailbroken my iPod touch and messed around with themes and stuff and even downloaded a thing to make my own, but I got this and I can't go back to iOS unless I was forced to. I love this phone. It's very smooth running, and I wouldn't trade it for anything lol. Except maybe an s-off rezound or something
I know it doesn't exist yet, but I'd love to see it haha.
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I started with the fascinate, traded it in for the dinc2, so i'm just as new as you are.
I'm very happy with this phone, not even sure if i'd swap it for a G-Nex...(call me insane xD)

Let's also not forget the stupid /data/data partition with the Incredible that really limited the amount of apps you could have installed.

knipp21 said:
Agreed. My wife has the inc1 with an amoled screen and this is still wayyyy better. I miss my Eris sometimes lol
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Haha yeah I still take my Eris out and play with it from time to time. My wife has a x2 was tempted to switch to my eris after playing with it lol
But yes this phone is great one of the best experiences I have ever had with a phone.

No HDMI or MHL with the Dinc 2 though.

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It would be used as CDMA. Do both phones have the same clock speed? And what is the difference in ram?
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you can compare the whole specs side by side at gsmarena.com ( very good site ) , and here is the link for the comparison http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3938&idPhone2=3230

Should I get the Inc???

Alright so I have had 5 Droid x2s within less than a year. I'm able to get a free Droid inc2 instead of another x2 replacement. I'm wondering if any of you inc2 had a x2 before and what you liked better and why. Im currently running cm9 on my x2 and its pretty zippy. I want my phone to be fast. Very fast. I'm not sure if I should sick with my x2 or get the inc2. All input is welcome and thanks! =D
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Alright so I have had 5 Droid x2s within less than a year. I'm able to get a free Droid inc2 instead of another x2 replacement. I'm wondering if any of you inc2 had a x2 before and what you liked better and why. Im currently running cm9 on my x2 and its pretty zippy. I want my phone to be fast. Very fast. I'm not sure if I should sick with my x2 or get the inc2. All input is welcome and thanks! =D
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I would get the Incredible 2 just because the phone is guaranteed to get the update to ICS later on (the Droid X2 is going to stuck on gingerbread sadly).

I would get the dinc2. I currently have both and I absolutely love my dinc2. And even though it only has a single core even without overclocking you will not see a difference between the dinc and the x2...well besides a smaller screen.
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thanks for the input guys. I have done a lot of research on the two comparing them over and over. By the looks of it the inc 2 usually comes out on top. The "dual" core x2 doesn't even use the tegra 2 processors to the full potential because the 2.3.x software doesn't take it into account. so those dual cores are just as good as a single core without properly adjusting for it. which moto (like usually) failed to do. Looks like im getting the inc 2 =D

Keep my Galaxy S3 or get an HTC One X?

I just got the galaxy S3 on at&t and I chose it over the One X (despite costing $100 more than the One X) because the features seemed really cool. S-Voice and other little things that would make life a little easier. Stuff like s-beam, s-voice, various motion things, swipe to screenshot, etc. Google now is so much faster than s-voice though and pretty much everything else can be achieved with third party apps. So now I'm wondering if I should return the s3 and get a One X or not.a
Any comments or suggestions that can male this choice easier?
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Ferrari353 said:
I just got the galaxy S3 on at&t and I chose it over the One X (despite costing $100 more than the One X) because the features seemed really cool. S-Voice and other little things that would make life a little easier. Stuff like s-beam, s-voice, various motion things, swipe to screenshot, etc. Google now is so much faster than s-voice though and pretty much everything else can be achieved with third party apps. So now I'm wondering if I should return the s3 and get a One X or not.a
Any comments or suggestions that can male this choice easier?
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Sgs3 on jellybean> hox on jellybean
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Htc one x jellybean is actually great, the screens is wayyy better the the s3 but when it comes down to performance sgs3 wins so ur choice

Kenneth.Torres said:
Sgs3 on jellybean> hox on jellybean
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Why is it better?
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Ferrari353 said:
Why is it better?
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Read the forum. It's not like there aren't 100 other threads regarding this same subject already.
Oh, and see my signature.

S3 would be be an ideal choice than HTC One X.

Ok i will change it up. HOX no way, I but HOX+ I would say that is worth entertaining when it is released.
The only thing worth having in the HOX is its screen. It uses the same cpu, less memory, lower battery, no sd and bootloader locked (I believe it is still the same but not 100%.)
HOX+ will have better screen, less ram, faster cpu and same size battery as S3. Also I believe the HOX+ will come out at either 32gb or 64gb.
Hopefully that helps a little.
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Unless I hear the One X+ has an unlockable bootloader on AT&T, I'm keeping my sgs3. The reason I switched to this phone was the bootloader shenanigans.

Had the One X with Rogers for 2 months then went to SGSIII. Nuff said

I switched from a One X too. Gs3 hands down better
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Samsung optimizes their phones a lot better than HTC. There's also fewer bugs. Material wise, the HTC are better though.
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This phone has the same polycarbonate as the one x. It just has a different finish.

Samsung is the king of android right now and it seems they will be for a long time. The optimization, features and power combo are the ultimate in phones/ tablets
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Add me to the list of people who ditched the one x
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I too came from a Hox, but I switched bc I couldn't unlock the bootloader. The thing I loved about the Hox was its beauty, it was the most beautiful device I've owned. I didn't like the screen honestly bc I could see the grid on it (drove me insane)
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So if I'm gonna root it and install Cyanogenmod or maybe AOKP, is the GS3 worth the $100 premium?

I say yes, absolutely. Especially if you also keep in mind the the OX doesn't have expandable storage. We have great development support in the community and your phone will perform better than you thought possible.
Galaxy S3 AOKP 4.1.2 JB.

My gf has the gs3 and I have a one s that has the same chip as the hox. I have no idea were the gs3 has more power comment has come from. Out of the box it was just hitting between 4000 and 4500 on quadrant. My one s out of the box was 4500 and up. Running sense on my one s and a over clocked kernel to 2.1ghz I'm getting between 6000 and 6500. I put her gs3 on task and knootesz aokp with the 2.1ghz kernel and I'm lucky if her phone hits 5000. Even in linpack it only gets a 45. She also has been asking me to make her phone snappier like mine because it just pops apps right open. I honestly am kind of bummed because I recommended the s 3 because I thought it would be fun to mess with and pretty powerful but I've just been unimpressed, I was actually a little jealous that she got the gs3 because I thought it would be more powerful than+my phone . I will admit though it has a beautiful screen.
Edit; if the boot loader thing is a deal breaker for the hox, the flash GUI app takes care of the problem

Ferrari353 said:
So if I'm gonna root it and install Cyanogenmod or maybe AOKP, is the GS3 worth the $100 premium?
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Absolutely. For that extra 100 bucks you get a removable battery and sd card slot, not to mention no more racing against htc and att to find exploits. The One X is as locked down as an iphone.

gunnyman said:
Absolutely. For that extra 100 bucks you get a removable battery and sd card slot, not to mention no more racing against htc and att to find exploits. The One X is as locked down as an iphone.
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Right, Okay.
Another reason I've kind of been wondering about the HOX is because I've had two phones stolen already–just this past week it was my Skyrocket, which prompted the upgrade–and since the HOX doesn't have a removable battery, it seems less stealable.Because then they can't remove the battery and the phone can be tracked, right? Or am I wrong about this?
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Might switch phone, SGS 3 vs One X+

Tried looking around, but the online reviews dont satisfy me.
If i exchange my phone from Telus, these 2 are the closest in prices. Galaxys is 430$ (selling my T989 so aint too bad). and One X + is 460$
OneX+ has Quadcore vs the Dualcore from the Samsung, is it really noticeable, i know cores is not necessarily the key point
OneX has 1 gig of ram, Samsung 2gigs.
OneX has 64gigs of internal memory. Galaxy has 16 + sd Slot.
All comes to global. Nevers hard any HTC products.
Will be rooting either, so firmware is not an issue.
Any advice ?

I'd go for the one x.. but I'd check to see where development is going with that phone. I came close to dumping my t989 for a one s but when I checked how are along development was going for it... not a good move.
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I've had an HTC before, and all I can say is that they're great, the hardware is good and all, but it comes down to like Rush said, dev support. If you like flashing different ROMs and what not, then go to each of the phones forum sections and check out how their dev support is. I remember I had the choice of the S2 and the Amaze 4G,and I chose the Amaze over the S2, and as much I loved the phone when I got on XDA all it had was root, no AOSP roms, just modified stock Sense Roms. Then theres the whole thing with HTC not releasing the source. When the Amaze was stolen and I got the S2 from T-Mo I was surprised by all the dev support the S2 has and it was that what changed my opinion on Samsungs, which before wasnt really a good one.

Tx.for the input
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I would go S3 as well. I've had both brands and prefer Samsung. My og evo was a great phone and has one of the most active developer communities. But I actually don't have the personal need to try a bunch of different roms out with this phone because it feels pretty good out of the gate.
James
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I say s3. The one x is a better phone overall but development will never be as good as the s3.
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New Phones

I can upgrade 2/14 and there is a few phones.
I'm looking at the Note 2 and SG3 as my top two right now though.
The only thing that concerns me is the SG3 is already almost a year old, and the 4 is coming sometime this year.
Does anyone have any news on when the SG4 would be available? I hear all types of rumors of first quarter. What do you guys think?

We won't know, just wait until announced if you want the s4.
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Apparently android "k" version is going to be released this year
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...for-key-lime-pie-the-next-version-of-android/
They are sending out updates at the cyclic rate. Android 5.0 already? Gingerbread was only 2 years ago.
I definitely won't be going HTC anymore.

kubes069 said:
I can upgrade 2/14 and there is a few phones.
I'm looking at the Note 2 and SG3 as my top two right now though.
The only thing that concerns me is the SG3 is already almost a year old, and the 4 is coming sometime this year.
Does anyone have any news on when the SG4 would be available? I hear all types of rumors of first quarter. What do you guys think?
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Arent there rumors saying it will be announced on april? If so, it will probably released by june at the latest.
If you think that's too long, I'd probably go with Note 2. Samsung has been good with updates with their latest phones unlike htc.
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iPhone 5.

My update is coming up 3/2. I'm in the same thinking as you, Note 2 or GS3 or wait for GS4. I'm thinking I'm just going to wait the extra month or two for the GS4. I've dealt with this outdated thing this long I think I can hold out another little longer to get a brand new released phone.

Don't get GS3 or GN2. Wait for a phone with a tegra 4 gpu/cpu 2!!! It's better than the one in the vita. It would be worth it
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Don't get GS3 or GN2. Wait for a phone with a tegra 4 gpu/cpu 2!!! It's better than the one in the vita. It would be worth it
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Dude, after seeing the tegra 3 stars, I want something with it so bad.
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I want a nexus badly. Waiting for news if a new one will ever drop. I've had my upgrade for weeks. Ugh. Nothing out now interests me in the slightest.
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I'm actually pretty happy with my inc2. With aerovans version of cm10 and his v14 kernel this phone is smooth and fast. Although 4g would be nice.
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msolaw said:
I want a nexus badly. Waiting for news if a new one will ever drop. I've had my upgrade for weeks. Ugh. Nothing out now interests me in the slightest.
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My upgrade is coming sometime soon, but I'm with you on this one.
Wanting a Nexus...but we all know how that will work out on Verizon.
Droid Razr HD looks really really really nice, but it is very locked down, and not much development on it.
Maybe the rumored Motorola X-phone will be our upgrade? I'm holding out until something good pops up.

Get the s3 you won't regret it.
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My upgrade is coming sometime soon, but I'm with you on this one.
Wanting a Nexus...but we all know how that will work out on Verizon.
Droid Razr HD looks really really really nice, but it is very locked down, and not much development on it.
Maybe the rumored Motorola X-phone will be our upgrade? I'm holding out until something good pops up.
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I can almost guarantee they won't make another nexus for Verizon. Too much bad happened.
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tylerlawhon said:
I can almost guarantee they won't make another nexus for Verizon. Too much bad happened.
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Going forward, the aosp fans will probably want to get whatever flagship moto phone is out cuz its closest to stock android and usually aosp runs well on it
Aosp on Samsung phones usually gets pretty good but there always seems to be a deal breaker with some major feature or so so batt life

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Get the s3 you won't regret it.
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Even though I've never used an S3, they are so wildly popular that you are bound to see good ROM support for many months to come. I feel this is what plagues the DINC2, since so many have become fed up with HTC (& Verizon) and moved on to other phones. The remaining devs do great work though!:highfive:

I've been using a Verizon Galaxy S3 (Verizon is dual core vs everyone else getting a quad core) as my work phone. Running an AOSP rom I'm very happy with it. My sister just upgraded from an iPhone 4 and LOVES her new stock Sprint GS3.
Personally I'm tired of being a flashaholic and just ordered a Lumia 822 Windows phone to replace the Incredible. I wasn't looking to shell out cash for a new phone and it's got the same processor as the VZ GS3. I figure I run Windows at home, own an Xbox, and support Windows at work so an iPhone was out.

I've got till june for my update. I think I might be one of the very last of the inc2 users by then.

I'm probably the only person that went from a Dinc 2 to an SGS3 back to a Dinc 2.
I liked the SGS3. The ROMS are pretty good although AOSP roms were lacking a bit back when I used them. I was kind of forced to sell my SGS3 as I needed to pay off some expenses so I went back to the Dinc 2.
Looking back, I don't really miss the SGS3 that much. Sure, in pretty much every way it's a better phone and LTE is nice. I did get adjusted to the 4.7in screen and the overall size of the device, but I really do like the Dinc 2 form factor a lot better.
Whatever my next phone is, I'll try to talk myself out of getting something the size of the SGS3. I really hope a new 4.3in phone, or something around that, comes out on Verizon. There's the HTC M4, but I wonder if it will ever see the light of day on Verizon. I wish Verizon would sell the flagship HTC phones and not altered models.

I'll probably use the Dinc 2 until it breaks or I can't get a hold of a good looking stable rom. I'm going to stick with flagship phones from now on though.

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I did get adjusted to the 4.7in screen and the overall size of the device, but I really do like the Dinc 2 form factor a lot better.
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This has been my concern as well, especially with the newer smartphones. I kinda like the pocket-size of the dinc2. Seems like everything is getting bigger instead of focusing on the real need. BATTERY LIFE.