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After finally getting music onto my HD7 (long story), here are my thoughts on what is turning into a nightmare handset for me.
1. Set up - First of all, the Connector for Mac software will only access iTunes libraries on a local computer, so if like me you have your media stored on a NAS, you're in the sticky stuff. This also goes for USB sticks and external HDDs.
2. Zune - After finally getting some music on to the phone, I checked out the Zune player component. Coming from an i-device, it took a while to find my way around it, but on the whole, it's quite a nice interface. One thing I don't like is when browsing by artist, instead of giving you the albums to pick, it just jumps straight into playing all songs by the artist. Not a big deal, but slightly annoying.
*EDIT* Actually, scrap that last comment. Double tapping on the artist brings up the artist's albums. Excellent!
3. Sound quality - I use some high quality Denon 'buds and have to say, the sound quality is so much better than my iPhone. It's also very loud. Unfortunately, you do get some background hiss when you're flicking between the icons and have no music playing. There was also some feedback as mentioned below in point 4, but when NOT on a call.
4. Call quality - I found this to be pretty decent, UNLESS you're using headphones. You know that feedback ditt-ditty-ditt noise you get when you put a cellphone next to a radio? Well I got that constantly when on a call. Not sure if this is a fault with my phone itself or whether they're all like this. Either way, it's not a good advert for HTC.
5. The screen - After reading about the 'screen tearing' and wondering what it was all about, I now have first hand experience of it. The handset is only 1 day old, so I'm not exactly happy. Does anyone know if this is a hardware of software fault? Have the Mozart or Omnia 7 had the same problem?
6. No gapless playback - A big one for me is this. I've got 200 or so live/dj mix albums, so not having this feature has pretty much made this phone worthless to me. I just don't understand why MS haven't implemented it. If there are no plans to add this, then my HD7 will have to be returned.
Right, that's my take on the HD7. Admittedly, it's not exactly positive, but I have been honest and hope that it will give prospective buyers something to think about.
If I'd have known about some of these things in advance, I would have given the WP7 format a wide berth. This is a shame, as the UI is excellent and there are so many good things about it.
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1. good to know, i didn't know this and hopefully MS will improve on it as they threw it together pretty quick, but who knows... doesn't zune detect the files on NAS though? mine does (well videos anyways, and i've got all sorts of videos formats which all worked), maybe try the k-lite codec pack and see if zune will pick it up then?
2. cool! i'm still getting use to zune myself. i found that if you try and sync an item, and then decide not to sync, there isn't any easy way to just clear it from queue. what you have to do is goto the device, then to sync groups, and remove it from there... bit od, but worked it out.
3. the hissing is most likely hardware related not software related. it is possible that the software could be outputting something to check if it's alive, but i think it's more hardware related.
4. same as 3, i don't believe this is OS related but more hardware related. best thing to do is ask to borrow someone's samsung/LG phone and see if you experience the same?
5. screen tearing? would be hardware as well... i have a HTC trophy which was the phone to show all these screen defects, but luckily i haven't noticed it with mine.
6. gapless playback, that is OS related... and yea they should implement this. Some were saying that it could be to do with the i3 tags? Could you try something for me? try ripping a cd using zune and then see if it plays gapless on zune, if it does, sync it to the phone and see if it's gapless. note though that cross fade (start playing just before the end of the previous sone) isn't available from what i've read.
DaveyBoy72 said:
6. No gapless playback - A big one for me is this. I've got 200 or so live/dj mix albums, so not having this feature has pretty much made this phone worthless to me. I just don't understand why MS haven't implemented it. If there are no plans to add this, then my HD7 will have to be returned.
This is a shame, as the UI is excellent and there are so many good things about it.
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What is a shame is the fact that you're returning the phone because of #6. Are you friggin kidding me ? Wow...
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1. good to know, i didn't know this and hopefully MS will improve on it as they threw it together pretty quick, but who knows... doesn't zune detect the files on NAS though? mine does (well videos anyways, and i've got all sorts of videos formats which all worked), maybe try the k-lite codec pack and see if zune will pick it up then?
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He's using the Connector for Mac instead of the Windows based Zune client. The Connector for Mac is still Beta if I recall correctly so issues like this are gonna get solved eventually I guess.
Basically your complaining about software issues or using a phone as a music player.
Im on my third day of using HD7 all day long and have no problems with it at all.
Zune loaded all my photos and music.
Have not had any screen problems, that could be your one hardware problem.
Sound is fine, though could be louder
No LED alert for notifications. My one complaint.
Everything runs smooth and fast.
I have to say its a nice piece of hardware.
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What is a shame is the fact that you're returning the phone because of #6. Are you friggin kidding me ? Wow...
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For someone who uses their phone primarily as a music player (why carry two things in your pocket), no, I am not kidding you. I could go on all day how iPod/iPhones work with this without problems, but we'd be covering old ground.
Also, it's not just live/DJ mix albums that are gapless these days. I don't know if you listen to a lot of continuous albums, but having a 1 or 2 second gap in a seamless DJ mix kind of defeats the object. It works on the Zune players (and iDevice), so why not on WP7?
To those who suggested using Zune PC to rip new files. I'm on a Mac, so at the moment the Zune software isn't available. I will try a 3rd party ripper though, which might give a different outcome to iTunes. I did try .M4A and .MP3 files from iTunes, but got the same result.
With regard to Connector for Mac, the external drive problem is being looked at and will hopefully be fixed when it moves from a beta release.
Unfortunately I don't know anyone else with a WP7 device, but will try another HD7 in the shop to see if the call interference is there. As mentioned, the earphones act as an antenna for the radio, so maybe it is this that is causing it. After digging around, I've found the screen tearing may be a driver fault and not the hardware itself.
One other minor (good) quirk, is that my Shure iPhone MPA remote/mic partially works with the HD7. It can only stop/start music, but a bonus nonetheless.
New phone
It's interesting each time a new or updated OS and phone comes out we don't really know what to expect or what the limits of the device will be. I went thru this last year (and every other previous year) with Win 6.5 on my Dash 3G. In the end I managed to get 100+ apps installed and the phone did everything except my laundry. I have a good feeling about WP7 (and my HTC Surround)....I've only had it 3 days and I've customized it, I see more (free) apps every day, and I will bet anyone MS will be implementing a lot of tweaks and new features i.e. spending a lot of money to insure these phones will compete with the others. We are all tweakers here and we want to push the limits..a little patience may be necessary.....it's only 3 days old
DaveyBoy72 said:
For someone who uses their phone primarily as a music player (why carry two things in your pocket), no, I am not kidding you. I could go on all day how iPod/iPhones work with this without problems, but we'd be covering old ground.
Also, it's not just live/DJ mix albums that are gapless these days. I don't know if you listen to a lot of continuous albums, but having a 1 or 2 second gap in a seamless DJ mix kind of defeats the object. It works on the Zune players (and iDevice), so why not on WP7?
To those who suggested using Zune PC to rip new files. I'm on a Mac, so at the moment the Zune software isn't available. I will try a 3rd party ripper though, which might give a different outcome to iTunes. I did try .M4A and .MP3 files from iTunes, but got the same result.
With regard to Connector for Mac, the external drive problem is being looked at and will hopefully be fixed when it moves from a beta release.
Unfortunately I don't know anyone else with a WP7 device, but will try another HD7 in the shop to see if the call interference is there. As mentioned, the earphones act as an antenna for the radio, so maybe it is this that is causing it. After digging around, I've found the screen tearing may be a driver fault and not the hardware itself.
One other minor (good) quirk, is that my Shure iPhone MPA remote/mic partially works with the HD7. It can only stop/start music, but a bonus nonetheless.
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Is your music DRM? With the Zune HD gapless works great as long as it's not with DRM so with my zune pass everything from the pass fails at gapless but works fine with the music I brought to the table without drm
DaveyBoy72 said:
6. No gapless playback - A big one for me is this. I've got 200 or so live/dj mix albums, so not having this feature has pretty much made this phone worthless to me. I just don't understand why MS haven't implemented it. If there are no plans to add this, then my HD7 will have to be returned.
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Why don't you support this idea on the WP7 wish list here
http://windowsphone7community.userv...ral/topics/85023-i-suggest-you-/filter/recent
Done.
None of my music is DRM as I've only ever downloaded 2 tracks in the last 5 years in iTunes.
Most of my music is from CD rips, with the occasional BitTorrent download.
I've still not had a chance to check another HD7 to see if it also produces feedback through the earphones. Has anyone else with an FM radio equiped handset ever had the same thing happen?
honestly I was shocked at the quality of calls on my HD7. I wouldn't call it decent, I'd call it excellent.
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honestly I was shocked at the quality of calls on my HD7. I wouldn't call it decent, I'd call it excellent.
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is that coming from an ex-iphone user?
There are many problems with Wp7, but people have to remember this is a 1st release and only a couple of weeks old. I've had mine for 3 weeks and dispite the shortcuming it's my best phone yet.
I've only had the screen flicker problem once in Zune.
When you say gapless are you talking nearly instant vs absolutely instant or 2 seconds vs nearly instant/absolutely instant?
I have a few albums, some Linkin Park ones in particular that are compiled as a continuous album and i tried it first on the PC zune player. the transition was instantaneous. Then i synced the same tracks to my HTC Surround and played a few and there was about a tenth of a second skip before the next song started. Is that what you are talking about?
*Update*
I've made some progress with the HD7.
1. Finally got Connector for Mac to work properly. It now mirrors any changes in iTunes (eg adding media, playlists, etc) and accesses my NAS no problem. It also syncs ok. Previously I had to use the iTunes library on a local drive, but now it works with the NAS. I had to do a fresh install of iTunes, but it seems to be working now.
2. I've not had any further screen tearing issues. There were a few updates to the HTC apps/front end showing up, so I installed them. Not sure if this has fixed it, or whether I've just been lucky.
3. Gapless playback - Hopefully MS will implement this in the next OS update. I take gapless to mean totally seamless. At the moment, I get gaps of 1-2 seconds at least. Obviously on shuffle or with a regular album it's not a problem, but with an album like Radio Soulwax by 2manyDJs (45 tracks in 60 minutes), it's kind of annoying.
4. The interference! I'm going back to O2 at lunchtime today to try another handset (providing they have one). Still getting that noise when using earphones (my Denon or the supplied headset) and this is noticable with calls, when listening to Zune or the radio, and even when there is no music playing.
Do any other HD7 (or Desire HD) users have this problem??
Note: This is ONLY when using the headphones.
Thanks.
I don't know how you are getting such a long delay in between tracks.. Its barely a split second between mine. Not even close to 1-2 seconds.
Further update.
Popped into O2 at lunchtime. The guy knew exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned this interefence noise, and said they'd had a few others with the same problem.
Anyway, swapped the phone and gave the new one a try in the shop. This worked fine, so hopefully it was just a one-off for me.
Re: Gapless - I was probably exaggerating with the 1-2 seconds, but it's around 0.5-1 second. There's no click and chageover, it's a definite gap.
DaveyBoy72 said:
Popped into O2 at lunchtime. The guy knew exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned this interefence noise, and said they'd had a few others with the same problem.
Anyway, swapped the phone and gave the new one a try in the shop. This worked fine, so hopefully it was just a one-off for me.
Re: Gapless - I was probably exaggerating with the 1-2 seconds, but it's around 0.5-1 second. There's no click and chageover, it's a definite gap.
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I continue to wonder why HTC is regarded as being a top hardware maker, here is yet another indication they are anything but.
efjay said:
I continue to wonder why HTC is regarded as being a top hardware maker, here is yet another indication they are anything but.
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Yes, actually they look like a quite faulty hardware maker...
Software is definitely better from HTC.
i haven't had a bad run with HTC, but I would have easily swapped to samsung (omnia 7) if the carriers here really made it worth while...
I just bought a Plantronics Voyager Pro Plus and people are complaining that they cannot here me because it sounds like my audio is skipping. I had a Jawbone Icon before that and took it back for the same reason. I thought it was the earpiece. Now I've been using my original Jawbone and people hear me just fine. I'm starting to believe this issue is with earpieces that connect to phone and media audio like most of the newer ones do, my old jawbone only supports phone audio and works perfectly. I was outside one day and noticed skipping when I was walking and playing music through my Plantronics. I'm wondering if I should do a warranty exchange? I have hardware version 003 Evo, anyone else experiencing this. Oh yeah, they sent this to me refurbished after my original 002 Evo had the screen lifting problem.
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I have hardware version 003 Evo, anyone else experiencing this. Oh yeah, they sent this to me refurbished after my original 002 Evo had the screen lifting problem.
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They sent me a brand new Evo when I had an issue. Are you *sure* yours is a refurb?
whats77inaname said:
They sent me a brand new Evo when I had an issue. Are you *sure* yours is a refurb?
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Yeah I'm pretty sure. It didn't even have that new look. The front edges that are shiny look like they have been polished over or something. Like it had some scratches before. I've had it for about 4 months now and would like to keep it. I'm just having this one bluetooth issue. I really don't want to have to root and flash my rom again but I can't use any of the new bluetooth headsets out and my old one is uncomfortable to me now.
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look under refurbushed date. if there is a date there, then its a refurb, it it says N/A, then its new.
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look under refurbushed date. if there is a date there, then its a refurb, it it says N/A, then its new.
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Nevermind I didn't see the rest of your post.
Ok. Tried this, I guess it's not a refurb. But it is having some serious bluetooth skipping problems.
jordant2 said:
Nevermind I didn't see the rest of your post.
Ok. Tried this, I guess it's not a refurb. But it is having some serious bluetooth skipping problems.
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Any Updates on this? I got the JayBird Bluetooth Freedom JF3's and they skip a TON in the gym. I thought it was the headset, so I replaced it with a different set.
It still skips.
Any updates are welcome, before I start a new thread.
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Any Updates on this? I got the JayBird Bluetooth Freedom JF3's and they skip a TON in the gym. I thought it was the headset, so I replaced it with a different set.
It still skips.
Any updates are welcome, before I start a new thread.
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Unfortunately for me, I found out it was a bluetooth problem with my Evo 4g. Since upgrading to the Evo 3D with the same headsets I have zero skipping. Both while talking and listening to music. I surfed around about this and a lot of people were having various bluetooth issues with the Evo 4g. They've upgraded the 3D to bluetooth v3.0. No problems now.
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Unfortunately for me, I found out it was a bluetooth problem with my Evo 4g. Since upgrading to the Evo 3D with the same headsets I have zero skipping. Both while talking and listening to music. I surfed around about this and a lot of people were having various bluetooth issues with the Evo 4g. They've upgraded the 3D to bluetooth v3.0. No problems now.
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Thank you so much for the reply. I was worried that it was an overall HTC problem, but your update about the Evo 3d not having the same issue suggests that it is an Evo 4g issue.
According rumours we have read previously, Sony Ericsson is going to throw another awesome update in Octomber. They already did good job on their 2.3.3 update and ported bugs and fixes from 2.3.4. Hats off to them!!
Now What do you still want them to include in next update? Any bugs left out unfixed?
Personally, I want Sony Ericsson to Include Twitter and Google+ (if possible) ingratiation. But it also shouldn't slow down the phone or contact book.
I wish Sony Ericsson would include an option to control ISO, (JEPG) compression, Color Combination (and effects like B&W/Sepia and Vivd), Panorama (beta?), Last.fm Scrobble support for default player (it's so sexy other than powerAMP), and of course gTalk video calling using rear camera too!
I really hope to link this to Sony Ericssons' Twitter accounts, fan pages and emails for their attention (by August).
Activism!!!!
i hope they do not integrate anything else... it would be better to remove this facebook-crap again
a simple app for people who want to use it would be enough.
but improved photo-features would be really nice!
i dun like the fb deep integration, some of the functions didnt work well with unlocked bootloader phone as the DRM is erased..
less bloatware, more stability and ram free..
i would like them to fix the wi-fi issue that didnt get fixed in the last update for starters!
Another thing that needs sorting is its incompatability with certain headphones. I spent alot of money on good headphones (Klipsch x10i) only to find thye wont work on Arc...comes up accessory not supported??
I know its not the headphones as my old Denon ach360's work fine and the Klipsch work fine on my ipod.
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i would like them to fix the wi-fi issue that didnt get fixed in the last update for starters!
Another thing that needs sorting is its incompatability with certain headphones. I spent alot of money on good headphones (Klipsch x10i) only to find thye wont work on Arc...comes up accessory not supported??
I know its not the headphones as my old Denon ach360's work fine and the Klipsch work fine on my ipod.
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Mate, the iPhones and Nokias are wired differently. If you buy something that says iPhone compatible, then they won't work with SE phones.
And yes, this has been explained earlier.
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Mate, the iPhones and Nokias are wired differently. If you buy something that says iPhone compatible, then they won't work with SE phones.
And yes, this has been explained earlier.
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I never tried, but I think iPod earphones worked with the X10, but not with the Arc
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I never tried, but I think iPod earphones worked with the X10, but not with the Arc
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I'm very curious about earphones that worked with arc. So today I dig up my old earphone and found three earphone. One from my old N82, this earphone include microphone, one from my iPod nano 5th gen, and an earphone Philips SHE 7850.
All of that earphone works with my arc even N82 microphone works too
I tried the ones from my friend's iPhone 4 and it said 'accessory not supported' :s
pngface said:
I tried the ones from my friend's iPhone 4 and it said 'accessory not supported' :s
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I'm using CM7 right now, does it make any different? some people say it's hardware things not software, next time I'll try this iPhone and nokia earphone when I use sony stock rom.
I'd love to see the update fix wi-fi stability. It's annoying to keep reconnecting when browsing.
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To be honest i would rather let them fix EVERY issue they have on Xperia Arc, than removing Facebook integration.
If you want it removed find a way to root your phone in 2.3.4.
In 2.3.4 all known issues must be solved.
And if they could make TTS/Map/MtpApp and all those apps/services to stop unless they are needed,
it would have been awesome.. Killing apps/services every 2 min is so boring.
Figured I'd post this here as an FYI since I didn't see a thread on it already. I just bought a 2012 Ford Focus and I was surprised at how well my HTC Arrive worked with it after hearing how small the list of phones that are fully functional with it is. I don't know if it started with Mango or if it worked well in NoDo already. I can see my battery life and signal strength from the dash. When someone texts me it kicks right into the voice from the phone that asks if you want to read it or ignore. I can reply back and send texts via voice as well. If I hit media on the touchscreen it shows my phone as an option and starts playing the music, all without needing to plug anything in. My friends iPhone4 and my wife's EVO Shift 4G running the latest official GB update don't do this, they only get the phone call ability really. Here's the latest official tested list, as you can see almost none of the devices are rated for audio streaming and SMS, but mine works.
http://www.nsapp.fordtechservice.dealerconnection.com/sync/usEN/sync_us_EN_iop_2_00.pdf
If you don't know what MyFordTouch/Sync is, here's some info and videos of it in action, it's pretty sweet:
http://www.ford.com/technology/sync...1b08c08d000632e00f00g05h00j00k26m1n0p20110107
The voice I hear though is the same one that comes out of the phone, the TellMe system, not the robotic voice in the videos above.
Glad to know it works, the focus 2012 looks awesome, I'd get one if I could.
That'll be because Ford and Microsoft are major business partners.
The OS that the Touch screen runs on in the new Ford Focus (well, the ST due out next year anyway) was developed by Microsoft, so no surprise at all that they work incredibly well together.
Also just to be pedantic, how can you have bought and own 2012 Focus when we are still in 2011?
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That'll be because Ford and Microsoft are major business partners.
The OS that the Touch screen runs on in the new Ford Focus (well, the ST due out next year anyway) was developed by Microsoft, so no surprise at all that they work incredibly well together.
Also just to be pedantic, how can you have bought and own 2012 Focus when we are still in 2011?
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WP7 and the Sync software share much DNA.
As far as the 2012 comment, the new Focus is a 2012 model being sold in 2011:
http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/?intcmp=fv-hpbb-dflt-40mpg-focus
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That'll be because Ford and Microsoft are major business partners.
The OS that the Touch screen runs on in the new Ford Focus (well, the ST due out next year anyway) was developed by Microsoft, so no surprise at all that they work incredibly well together.
Also just to be pedantic, how can you have bought and own 2012 Focus when we are still in 2011?
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The thing is that I've seen people complain that the first release of WP7 supported only the voice dialing so I was prepared to be disappointed and then was pleasantly surprised. Figured I'd report in on it. I might do a video review just to get the word out and show it off a little.
Am I the only one that's extremely upset that you have to have a Ford to have this functionality? Wouldn't it be best for Microsoft to make their software available to aftermarket dealers?
You dont need a ford to get what hes talking about...
Most of what he described is standard bluetooth capabilities. With the exception of voice reply and read text messages my JVC unit does all else. I do get a message that says I have a text however. I imagine when I get mango and actually have the read and write through voice functionality It will work seamlessly as well.
Of course the ford system is fancier overall but as far as functionality from the phone as he describes it, its the same.
I am curious though, does the focus have a usb plug? Can you plug the phone in and actually control the zune software? Or is it just bluetooth control?
It depends on the trim level I think, mine has two USB ports though. I think I've read that it controls via USB as well. Here are some other things possible:
http://www.syncmyride.com/Own/touch/entertainment
Found this:
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3742033&postcount=6
FYI, now that the phone is officially released in the UK, looks like Google updated http://www.google.com/nexus with some useful information.
N.B. the specs page for the US version of the site only lists the CDMA/LTE version. Perhaps evidence of a Verizon exclusive, at least temporarily. It also confirms that the LTE version is 9.5mm thick, weighs 150g, and comes with a 1850mAh battery.
The Galaxy Nexus youtube account now has instructional videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/googlenexus
N.B. This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrgIFMfsaQ shows what the back of the Verizon version looks like, and further confirms a Verizon exclusive, for now.
Samsung UK also opened up their full Galaxy Nexus page: http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/android/GT-I9250TSAXEU
it's a shame when Google release it to almost all the network at UK at the same time and US it will be later and just Verizon
NICEGYPT said:
it's a shame when Google release it to almost all the network at UK at the same time and US it will be later and just Verizon
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Look on the bright side. Right now only the US and UK have the updated page. All other countries are still on the old teaser page. Which means the US should be the next to get it...maybe...
I know US will be next but what network. My full upgrade with tmobile next week on the black Friday and I really want this phone before I get GS2.
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I know US will be next but what network. My full upgrade with tmobile next week on the black Friday and I really want this phone before I get GS2.
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The specs on the US page only lists the CDMA/LTE version. Looks like Verizon got a US exclusive after all.
Also this confirms the 9.5mm thickness and 1850mAh battery of the LTE version that was posted some time ago by a bunch of Chinese tech sites.
Oh Samsung. Somebody in Cupertino is not going to be happy with this image.
Yep. I already gave up after this VZ video. I am going to get GS2. And I think there is no diff.
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Oh Samsung. Somebody in Cupertino is not going to be happy with this image.
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Lmao. Choo chooooo.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.
Why the heck is there a Verizon logo on the back of a nexus phone?
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Oh Samsung. Somebody in Cupertino is not going to be happy with this image.
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That's awesome! Love it!
Interesting...according to the quick start guide, what we thought was a microphone on the back of the phone near the top is indeed a microphone, but it's not a noise canceling microphone, it's used for video recording and speakerphone calls.
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...T-I9250_QSG_EU_Eng_Rev.1.0_111029a_Screen.pdf
Chirality said:
Interesting...according to the quick start guide, what we thought was a microphone on the back of the phone near the top is indeed a microphone, but it's not a noise canceling microphone, it's used for video recording and speakerphone calls.
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...T-I9250_QSG_EU_Eng_Rev.1.0_111029a_Screen.pdf
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Considering how much Samsung have shown themselves to be completely incompetent with this phone, maybe it's not too far a stretch to assume that PDF is incorrect.
It makes no sense to have a separate mic just for video recording and speakerphone calls when every other phone has managed just fine with only one main mic on the phone.
It is way more plausible that the mic on the back is for noise cancellation.
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Considering how much Samsung have shown themselves to be completely incompetent with this phone, maybe it's not too far a stretch to assume that PDF is incorrect.
It makes no sense to have a separate mic just for video recording and speakerphone calls when every other phone has managed just fine with only one main mic on the phone.
It is way more plausible that the mic on the back is for noise cancellation.
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Stereo microphones are a godsend for video recording on this phone if the PDF is right.
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Considering how much Samsung have shown themselves to be completely incompetent with this phone, maybe it's not too far a stretch to assume that PDF is incorrect.
It makes no sense to have a separate mic just for video recording and speakerphone calls when every other phone has managed just fine with only one main mic on the phone.
It is way more plausible that the mic on the back is for noise cancellation.
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No, it's not. Samsung have been using microphones on the back of their phones to enable stereo audio recording since 2009.
Amaze has like 18 mics and the audio recording still sucks ass.
WhiterThanWhite said:
No, it's not. Samsung have been using microphones on the back of their phones to enable stereo audio recording since 2009.
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that's funny...can't see one on my Nexus S...
oscillik said:
that's funny...can't see one on my Nexus S...
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Perhaps I should've been more clear. Samsung have in the past used dual microphones, with one on the back, for video recording. There's one on my Omnia HD.
Some more interesting things I found on the US google.com/nexus site:
http://www.google.com/support/ics/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1649769&topic=1650156
This page only mentions CDMA and LTE. Since it's the generic help site for the US Galaxy Nexus, this is probably further confirmation that Verizon has an US exclusive for a while. On the plus side, it confirms that you can turn off LTE if you want to.
http://www.google.com/support/ics/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1650164&topic=1650156
This page is about tethering. Notice it says nothing about feature availability by carrier, nothing about the possibility of needing to pay extra for this service, nothing about these options potentially not being available. Remember that these help pages are for now specific to the CDMA/LTE version, which means this page is talking about tethering on Verizon. This raises the possibility that even on Verizon, the tethering capabilities of the Galaxy Nexus are completely untouched. Which, if true, probably means that Verizon wasn't able to tamper with the base system at all.
Guys, I didn't get it yet. What the mic on the back is for? For noise cancellation or what? And I've just checked that in spite of having 2 mics, video records in mono (using the mic on the back). Is that possible to record using 2 mics (stereo audio recording)?
That is correct. Its for noise cancellation during calls.
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