Hi so I know the Galaxy Nexus is only going to be using the 21mbps HSPA+, so anyone know what the average download speed is usually? ..maybe someone living in NYC ran some speedtests?
btw although ive heard multiple times that the nexus will have HSPA+ 21Mbps, but didnt google/samsung didnt they show a chart at the ICS unveiling that the nexus would go up to 42Mbps on HSPA+ ?
My 5 mbps might be your 2mbps. Locations will vary, as will all the other factors. And no, 21mbps max for the modem inside your phone. Cant exceed that.
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Well living in amajor city, with great coverage, what kind of speeds can I expect? I'm hoping for at least 10mbps during low congestion and at least a reliable 4mbps during peak hours.
But yeah there was a chart at the ics unveiling that showed the nexus using HSPA+ 42mbps. Maybe the USA gsm model will be able to take advantage of the high end tmo and att 4g networks like the TMo SGS2 can
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You can't expect anything. The phone isn't what determines the speed, the network does. You could get different speeds on different sides of the street with the same phone and same network.
You shouldn't expect this phone to give you any faster/slower speed than another HSPA+ phone on T-mobile in the same location. You'll have to see for yourself.
The current version of the HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus is 21mbps. You won't see real-world 21mbps on T-mobile any time soon, so don't worry about it not being a 42mbps modem lol.
martonikaj said:
You can't expect anything. The phone isn't what determines the speed, the network does. You could get different speeds on different sides of the street with the same phone and same network.
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How about the radio then.. it should be able to use TMO/ATT's 42Mbps HSPA+ right?
Dmw017 said:
How about the radio then.. it should be able to use TMO/ATT's 42Mbps HSPA+ right?
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Well of course if the phone only has an HSPA+ 21mbps radio, it can't go faster than that....
And FWIW I don't think AT&T has anything more than 21mbps deployed widely. Most areas are still on 14.4mbps, or even 7mbps HSPA.
I am in Minneapolis right by 4g towers and I only get 5 mbps download on my T-Mobile galaxy s2 (42mbps) so those numbers mean absolutely nothing. You will never even hit the basic 14.4
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martonikaj said:
Well of course if the phone only has an HSPA+ 21mbps radio, it can't go faster than that....
And FWIW I don't think AT&T has anything more than 21mbps deployed widely. Most areas are still on 14.4mbps, or even 7mbps HSPA.
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that's my question I guess, does the phone in fact have a 21mbps radio or the new 42mbps one :x I know the omap4460 processor can't do LTE but HSPA+ shouldnt be a problem
Edit: Ah found the pic from the ICS unveiling.
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that's my question I guess, does the phone in fact have a 21mbps radio or the new 42mbps one :x I know the omap4460 processor can't do LTE but HSPA+ shouldnt be a problem
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Just like I said before, it has a pentaband HSPA+ 21mbps radio.
Towle said:
I am in Minneapolis right by 4g towers and I only get 5 mbps download on my T-Mobile galaxy s2 (42mbps) so those numbers mean absolutely nothing. You will never even hit the basic 14.4
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Like we've said, that's your experience with your area and your phone. I have a G2 (which as 14.4mbps HSPA+) and I can easily pull 10mbps down. Others have reported pulling upwards of 15mbps on various HSPA+ devices. Its definitely possible, but not something that people can come to expect as "normal" speeds.
My nexus s is theoretically capable of 7 mbit. I get anywhere from 1 to mid 4's usually. I'll take whatever 21mbit support nets. I would be tickled pink if it got 5-10 consistently.
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Just like I said before, it has a pentaband HSPA+ 21mbps radio.
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Oh sorry I missed the edit in your last post. Has the radio been confirmed to be 21 or is that speculation?
Dmw017 said:
Oh sorry I missed the edit in your last post. Has the radio been confirmed to be 21 or is that speculation?
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It is confirmed. All that picture is showing is that LTE's theoretical speeds are higher than HSPA+ 42mbps theoretical speeds.
All we know right now is that there are 2 versions to be released. 1 has CDMA/LTE, and 1 has GSM/HSPA+ 21.
martonikaj said:
It is confirmed. All that picture is showing is that LTE's theoretical speeds are higher than HSPA+ 42mbps theoretical speeds.
All we know right now is that there are 2 versions to be released. 1 has CDMA/LTE, and 1 has GSM/HSPA+ 21.
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awesome, thanks :}
21Mbps is fine, I'm coming from Verizon's 3G which did like 1mbps on average so this is a step up lol
Dmw017 said:
awesome, thanks :}
21Mbps is fine, I'm coming from Verizon's 3G which did like 1mbps on average so this is a step up lol
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And that's why they have to have an LTE version. Because CDMA is slooooooow.
pukemon said:
My 5 mbps might be your 2mbps. Locations will vary, as will all the other factors. And no, 21mbps max for the modem inside your phone. Cant exceed that.
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Actually, you can.
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network runs on a 42Mbps speed.
hotleadsingerguy said:
Actually, you can.
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network runs on a 42Mbps speed.
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But the phone only has a 21mbps modem.
Then what was the purpose of showing HSPA+42 in the chart if the galaxy nexus will not be able to use it? I'm wondering because I am on Tmobile and I was so sure it would be on Tmobile's new HSPA+42 network.
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I never saw over 7Mbps in Atlanta. Calling HSPA+ "4G" is just blatant false advertising. I easily get 28Mbps on LTE in the same areas.
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I never saw over 7Mbps in Atlanta. Calling HSPA+ "4G" is just blatant false advertising. I easily get 28Mbps on LTE in the same areas.
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What phone did you have in Tmobile's network? Because with Tmobile's theoretical speeds you can cut that in half for real world speeds (i.e. Tmobile's HSPA+42 theoretical speeds is around 21mbps real speeds).
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Tone503773 said:
What phone did you have in Tmobile's network? Because with Tmobile's theoretical speeds you can cut that in half for real world speeds (i.e. Tmobile's HSPA+42 theoretical speeds is around 21mbps real speeds).
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The G2, MT4G, and Sensation.
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Sprint converts its CDMA network to LTE, plans 'aggressive rollout' to be completed by 2013
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We knew more or less that anannouncement of this sort*was coming. Back in July,*Dan Hesse had teased usface-to-face with the promise of a "great story this fall around 4G," and now the time to tell that tale has arrived. At its strategy event today, Sprint finally went public with plans to "simplify its network" by converting its CDMA 1900MHz holdings and LightSquared's 1600MHZ spectrum ("pending FCC approval") to LTE, anindustry favorite. Helping the operator make that transition is the swath of 800MHz spectrum it reclaimed from the, now defunct,*iDEN push-to-talk network*-- which had been a drain on the company's resources. This spectrum, acquired from Nextel, will be phased out by mid-2013 and rolled into LTE. The company plans for a rapid deployment of this new 4G, with the first LTE markets and handsets to hit in mid-2012 with the full rollout mostly completed by 2013. Current subscribers signed up for WiMAX plans won't have to worry as their devices will continue to be supported throughout 2012.Beginning tomorrow, Sprint's consolidating its 4G LTE (including LightSquared), 3G and Direct Connect networks into one single architecture. All the major technical milestones, such as test calls and field integration, have cleared their hurdles and work on over 22,000 cell sites are currently in process. Samsung, Alcatel Lucent and Ericsson have partnered with Sprint to install multimode 3G and 4G base stations to handle the network's future traffic, essential for deploying the multitude of frequencies required by hosted devices. Prospective iPhone 4S users on the network will be able to take advantage of better signal strength and improved voice service as Sprint intends to also offload the latter onto 800MHz.Expect a steep "reduction in roaming costs" and deeper signal penetration throughout the operator's expanding national footprint over the course of the next two years. Naturally, LTE speeds on this new network will be significantly improved over the currently in-use WiMAX, and a planned implementation of WiFi offloading should help to cut congestion by 20 percent. By the end of next year, Sprint aims to have a combined WiMAX/LTE population coverage of 176 million -- with 123 million covered by LTE and 76 million overlapping both. When the network build-out is nearly complete in 2013, the company should have over 250 million blanketed in LTE, far outstripping the stagnant 120 million served by WiMAX.
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...a-network-to-lte/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I really don't think Engadget and BGR are getting this right! It's not being converted to LTE - the LTE will be everywhere that 3G is, but its multimode architecture doesn't mean 3G is being replaced! They said they are "committed" to the 3G services long-term, and will be maintaining them. They pointed out how the enterprise customer is important, and demands at least 3-5 year stability.
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I really don't think Engadget and BGR are getting this right! It's not being converted to LTE - the LTE will be everywhere that 3G is, but its multimode architecture doesn't mean 3G is being replaced! They said they are "committed" to the 3G services long-term, and will be maintaining them. They pointed out how the enterprise customer is important, and demands at least 3-5 year stability.
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Yeah i agree ^^^
So am I safe with this new rollout with the E4GT?
3G speeds seriously blow ass here, and i get full bars
DonutGrunt said:
So am I safe with this new rollout with the E4GT?
3G speeds seriously blow ass here, and i get full bars
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Yes, though you won't get LTE. Capacity is being increased everywhere, even for 3G.
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Yes, though you won't get LTE. Capacity is being increased everywhere, even for 3G.
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This is confusing. I read on Blog post in Sprint website that we would be supported for LTE 4G since will use 800mhz for this. I guess we can hope and see what finally passes.
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Yes, though you won't get LTE. Capacity is being increased everywhere, even for 3G.
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How slow is Sprint's 3G compared to other networks?
I have 114 kB/s down right now
Docarut said:
This is confusing. I read on Blog post in Sprint website that we would be supported for LTE 4G since will use 800mhz for this. I guess we can hope and see what finally passes.
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[Citation Needed]
LTE is only, at this point, a speculation on 800mhz. 1900mhz is first, then 1600mhz via LightSquared.
DonutGrunt said:
How slow is Sprint's 3G compared to other networks?
I have 114 kB/s down right now
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I've seen 1.8mbit and as low as shameful. I'd say 800kbit-1mbit on average. Not bad, not amazing.
DonutGrunt said:
How slow is Sprint's 3G compared to other networks?
I have 114 kB/s down right now
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I had t-mobile up until this phone and t-mobile i was averaging about 3 to 6mbps down on their 3g on my nexus. I was also utilizing their hsdpa network as well.
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Docarut said:
This is confusing. I read on Blog post in Sprint website that we would be supported for LTE 4G since will use 800mhz for this. I guess we can hope and see what finally passes.
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Lte on 800MHz is different from our phones supporting the 800 mhz. Our only work on the network as far as cdma goes but we don't have a lte chip
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See now I don't know what to do. I was considering the ET4G or the Nexus Prime if it gets announced soon. But I'm wondering If I should stick with my OG EVO until LTE starts to roll out and see what phone comes then? My 3G blows along with 4G only getting like 2.5 down and I'm in Kansas City, right down the road from the Sprint Headquarters. I'm pretty disappointed in these speeds.
Iczer said:
See now I don't know what to do. I was considering the ET4G or the Nexus Prime if it gets announced soon. But I'm wondering If I should stick with my OG EVO until LTE starts to roll out and see what phone comes then? My 3G blows along with 4G only getting like 2.5 down and I'm in Kansas City, right down the road from the Sprint Headquarters. I'm pretty disappointed in these speeds.
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Sprint made it clear that LTE won't be of much use until late 2012, but they will be selling WiMAX phones through 2012 and supporting WiMAX for much longer. Also, watch for speed increases as they continue to increase backhaul as part of Network Vision.
What's most exciting about all this is the transition from EVDO to 1x advanced
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craigbailey1986 said:
Lte on 800MHz is different from our phones supporting the 800 mhz. Our only work on the network as far as cdma goes but we don't have a lte chip
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Thanks for the information. This from Sprint's Community Forum and comments muddy the water for guys like me.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...blog/2011/09/15/what-is-sprint-network-vision
Docarut said:
Thanks for the information. This from Sprint's Community Forum and comments muddy the water for guys like me.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...blog/2011/09/15/what-is-sprint-network-vision
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Read the Network Vision thread, and follow me on Twitter.
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Read the Network Vision thread, and follow me on Twitter.
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Will do. Thanks!
So will we see increases in 3G speeds? If so when should we expect this?
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So will we see increases in 3G speeds? If so when should we expect this?
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I've answered this about ten times already. Please read the other thread.
I get REALLLLYYY SLOW 3g speeds in Metro Detroit.. i average 0.1 - 0.3 Mbps...
DonutGrunt said:
So am I safe with this new rollout with the E4GT?
3G speeds seriously blow ass here, and i get full bars
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3G speeds having nothing to do with the antenna bars you see on your phone. It would make sense that if you have a strong cell signal, you should also have a strong data signal, but welcome to Sprint!
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Sprint just started building out*its LTE network, but being the eager beavers that they are, the folks in Overland Park are already talking about taking the Now Network to the next level. Iyad Tarazi, Sprint's VP of network development and engineering, said that Sprint will be rolling out an LTE-Advanced network in the first half of 2013. (As a brief refresher, LTE-Advanced is a*true 4G technology*that can make regular LTE speeds lookpositively pedestrian*in comparison.) Tarazi added that we would see 12 LTE devices in 2012 and that over 250 million people will have access to Sprint-flavored LTE by the end of 2013 -- with*voice over LTE*service coming in the first quarter of that year. For those (hundreds?) of you worried about the fate of of WiMAX, well, don't. Apparently, the out-of-favor 4G network will continue to be supported for several more years due to Sprint's agreement with Clearwire. So, it appears Sprint's really making a run atVerizon's*LTE hegemony. Good luck Mr. Hesse, you're probably going to need it.
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...nferiority-compl/&category=classic&postPage=1
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well to me that just means we got the galaxy just in time. hopefully we'll get lte about the time we get our phone upgrades renewed may just be about perfect timing.
I'd rather hear about they are going to put up more towers, increase 3g speed than these news
Tell Me about it I have crap speeds
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I'd rather hear about they are going to put up more towers, increase 3g speed than these news
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They aren't going to put up new towers.
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
Network Vision is actually going to allow for less towers while giving more coverage and better speeds.
More towers does not necessarily mean more coverage.
Just higher costs to run the network / maintenance.
mattykinsx said:
They aren't going to put up new towers.
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
Network Vision is actually going to allow for less towers while giving more coverage and better speeds.
More towers does not necessarily mean more coverage.
Just higher costs to run the network / maintenance.
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This. Can't wait for LTE on Sprint.
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I'd rather hear about they are going to put up more towers, increase 3g speed than these news
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Exactly. Sprint doesn't support Wimax in my area now - I can rarely connect and when I do I get crappy speeds. So their continued support of them doesn't exactly inspire me. As long as they are rolling out LTE why not roll out EVDO rev B at the same time at virtually no additional cost? And for goodness sakes, increase your backbone that the towers connect to and fix your proxy servers!
mattykinsx said:
They aren't going to put up new towers.
Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
Network Vision is actually going to allow for less towers while giving more coverage and better speeds.
More towers does not necessarily mean more coverage.
Just higher costs to run the network / maintenance.
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Im confused y do people keep saying they want sprint to focus on 3g speeds and coverage from my understanding of network vision isnt that what they are doing in addition to switching to lte? I dunno maybe i missed read
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Sprint actually has the most towers of all the major carriers.
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On two separate networks, CDMA and iDEN?
asqwrd said:
Im confused y do people keep saying they want sprint to focus on 3g speeds and coverage from my understanding of network vision isnt that what they are doing in addition to switching to lte? I dunno maybe i missed read
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I don't know about others but I'm saying their network speeds where I need them - Arizon, CA, NY, FL and CT are wretched for 3G and 4G rarely even works well/frequently disconnects and isn't very fast where I've managed to maintain a connection. So to put it succinctly - Sprint data speeds suck both on 3G and 4G everyplace I need them.
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I don't know about others but I'm saying their network speeds where I need them - Arizon, CA, NY, FL and CT are wretched for 3G and 4G rarely even works well/frequently disconnects and isn't very fast where I've managed to maintain a connection. So to put it succinctly - Sprint data speeds suck both on 3G and 4G everyplace I need them.
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I live in the Bay area and although slow the speeds have been enough for me to surf and check stuff. I just recently finished school in NY and just moved out here a few months ago and my speeds in new york seemed fine as well as in CT. I had the EVO then and all summer until the epic came out. 4g has sucked as far as coverage everywhere i went but when i do get a connection the speeds were about 4-6mbps. To be honest i didnt notice that my 3g speeds were really slow until i started seeing people complain in threads lol i guess ignorance is bliss.
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Exactly. Sprint doesn't support Wimax in my area now - I can rarely connect and when I do I get crappy speeds. So their continued support of them doesn't exactly inspire me. As long as they are rolling out LTE why not roll out EVDO rev B at the same time at virtually no additional cost? And for goodness sakes, increase your backbone that the towers connect to and fix your proxy servers!
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Because they're quickly moving to LTE Advanced.
When they do that they will actually be a "true 4g" network with voip etc.
Everything will be data.
As far as your backbone comment, that's exactly what Network Vision is doing.
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Im confused y do people keep saying they want sprint to focus on 3g speeds and coverage from my understanding of network vision isnt that what they are doing in addition to switching to lte? I dunno maybe i missed read
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That's exactly what Sprint is doing unfortunately people really haven't read into it.
"Within the range of system development, LTE-Advanced and WiMAX 2, can use up to 8x8 MIMO and 128 QAM. Example performance: 100MHz aggregated bandwidth, LTE-Advanced provides almost 3.3Gbit peak download rates per sector of the base station under ideal conditions. Advanced network architectures combined with distributed and collaborative smart antenna technologies provide several years road map of commercial enhancements."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced
Could you imagine 3.3Gbps? LOL
Overstew said:
Could you imagine 3.3Gbps? LOL
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I would be thrilled if Sprint even delivered 3mbps where I need it, frankly .3mbps is very discouraging.
Overstew said:
Could you imagine 3.3Gbps? LOL
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With the current limitations on data (except on Sprint) you could literally use your entire months 2GB allotment in 4.8 seconds.
Well..about 2 years to go..lol
i hope that i still like my phone for two years
http://m.intomobile.com/2011/10/27/...com/&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
This article says that sprints lye advanced will be around 15 mbps.
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musclehead84 said:
http://m.intomobile.com/2011/10/27/...com/&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
This article says that sprints lye advanced will be around 15 mbps.
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Welcome to Sprint.
Cast aside your ideas on 3G and 4G speeds. We (at Sprint) don't throttle your speeds once you exceed 2GB or 5GB - we throttle from your very first kilobyte. Your speeds will be so slow you won't ever exceeed 2GB or 5GB. This is how we can offer unlimited data. But rest assured if our speeds improve for any unforseen reason, we'll include a $25 fee for your "outstanding" data experience on top of the $10 fee you pay for the "rich" data experience.
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Ajamucamphor said:
i hope that i still like my phone for two years
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I hope I make enough money to be on a better carrier in 2 years.
musclehead84 said:
http://m.intomobile.com/2011/10/27/...com/&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
This article says that sprints lye advanced will be around 15 mbps.
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I have a hard time buying that LTE-Advanced would only achieve 12-15 mbps real world. LTE on Verizon currently gets that and that isn't even LTE-Advanced....
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http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/242661/sprint_aims_to_use_clearwires_lte_network.html
The more the merrier I always say.
can someone make a theme or rom to replace 3g to h+ or 4g?
I using on att, it always show 3g icon only!
yes, I connected to att 21mb hspa+ but this stock rom only show 4g on tmobile 42mb network, anything less it just show 3g.
netnerd said:
can someone make a theme or rom to replace 3g to h+ or 4g?
I using on att, it always show 3g icon only!
yes, I connected to att 21mb hspa+ but this stock rom only show 4g on tmobile 42mb network, anything less it just show 3g.
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with ATT you cant connect to 4g with the t989 galaxy, hence you only get the 3g icon. To get 4g on att you need to buy the att version of the galaxy
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with ATT you cant connect to 4g with the t989 galaxy, hence you only get the 3g icon. To get 4g on att you need to buy the att version of the galaxy
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He knows that mate.
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Just curious... why wouldn't you just get the AT&T version? Wouldn't you have a better user experience? Doesn't the AT&T version have the Exynos processor and superior graphics processor? And you miss out on AT&T's HSPA+?
Can't think of a reason anyone would choose to go with the T-Mobile's one on AT&T's network unless you got it free or something. Even then, I'd sell it and go buy the AT&T version...
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Just curious... why wouldn't you just get the AT&T version? Wouldn't you have a better user experience? Doesn't the AT&T version have the Exynos processor and superior graphics processor? And you miss out on AT&T's HSPA+?
Can't think of a reason anyone would choose to go with the T-Mobile's one on AT&T's network unless you got it free or something. Even then, I'd sell it and go buy the AT&T version...
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why? cus i dont like att version with 4.27" that look like 4 inches!
i used to have galaxy s2 uk version with the same 4.27" screen, after a week i sold it on ebay.
on att i do get HSPA+ on tmobile galaxy s2, it just the icon is showing 3G!
netnerd said:
why? cus i dont like att version with 4.27" that look like 4 inches!
i used to have galaxy s2 uk version with the same 4.27" screen, after a week i sold it on ebay.
on att i do get HSPA+ on tmobile galaxy s2, it just the icon is showing 3G!
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are you sure? the tmobile versiobn doesn't have the radios to connect to the att 4g. look at the bands on the back of the box, it's not compatible with att 4g.
maybe you kids can tell me what is wrong with this screenshot!
screenshot of tmobile galaxy s2 with att simcard.
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it shows i getting 4425kbps and network is Hspa. but the icon is showing 3G !
netnerd said:
maybe you kids can tell me what is wrong with this screenshot!
screenshot of tmobile galaxy s2 with att simcard.
it shows i getting 4425kbps and network is Hspa. but the icon is showing 3G !
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"HSPA supports increased peak data rates of up to 14 Mbit/s in the downlink and 5.76 Mbit/s in the uplink."
"3G HSPA of High Speed packet Access is the combination of two technologies, one of the downlink and the other for the uplink that can be built onto the existing 3G UMTS or W-CDMA technology to provide increased data transfer speeds"
TLDR:
HSPA = 3g
Tmobile 4g = HSPA+.
drunknmunkie said:
"HSPA supports increased peak data rates of up to 14 Mbit/s in the downlink and 5.76 Mbit/s in the uplink."
"3G HSPA of High Speed packet Access is the combination of two technologies, one of the downlink and the other for the uplink that can be built onto the existing 3G UMTS or W-CDMA technology to provide increased data transfer speeds"
TLDR:
HSPA = 3g
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so now there is a HSPA *and* 3G HSPA? haha
netnerd said:
can someone make a theme or rom to replace 3g to h+ or 4g?
I using on att, it always show 3g icon only!
yes, I connected to att 21mb hspa+ but this stock rom only show 4g on tmobile 42mb network, anything less it just show 3g.
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Just attach systemUI.apk and framework.apk of the ROM you are using and I will see what I can do for u...
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netnerd said:
maybe you kids can tell me what is wrong with this screenshot!
screenshot of tmobile galaxy s2 with att simcard.
it shows i getting 4425kbps and network is Hspa. but the icon is showing 3G !
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Mate, I told you before on a different thread, HSPA = 3.5G. Looks at your speeds, thats not 4G.
kenvan19 said:
Mate, I told you before on a different thread, HSPA = 3.5G. Looks at your speeds, thats not 4G.
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mate, why don't you do a speedtest on your tmobile phone!
that's not 4g speed! why is the icon showing 4g??
It's just an icon... You aren't getting hspa+ ... Why have the icon lie to you?
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Wish there was an H icon we could use instead of the 4g one.
Deebo took your bike too?
Not sure if you guys have hspa+ on telus but if you don't then that's why it says 3g. Telus probably has it show 4g for hspa but the T-Mobile version shows hspa as 3g. This is my theory anyway
Btw, prepare to be stoned for posting in the wrong section. Questions like this belong in the general section
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Please don't post this in the developement section. If your post has a "?" In it it most likely belongs in the Q&A or General section. If you don't get an answer there message another member or dev. Don't immediately find the easy way out and post here. I know the devs will probably move this to the correct place but were not kids and no one needs to be cleaning up after us.
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Sorry. I only posted in the dev section as this happened when flashing a custom rom...
ReDz
redz1234 said:
Sorry. I only posted in the dev section as this only happened when flashing a custom rom...
ReDz
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Yes but it is still a question and not a development.
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mikeyinid said:
Not sure if you guys have hspa+ on telus but if you don't then that's why it says 3g. Telus probably has it show 4g for hspa but the T-Mobile version shows hspa as 3g. This is my theory anyway
Btw, prepare to be stoned for posting in the wrong section. Questions like this belong in the general section
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Telus has about 70% deployment of 42mbit HSPA+ over it's entire footprint. It should act the same, but I would theorize that it may be based on the frequency that is doing the talking. Most or all of the roms here I believe are a T-Mobile base. If there was one built off the Telus base I think you'd see the opposite happen.
I'm on Telus and my icon reflected 4G before flashing. From what I understand Telus is HSPA+ so 4G would be correct but since flashing I get the 3G icon as mentioned in an earlier post.
ReDz
In addition to your average speed test speeds, could you please provide if your device is running a custom rom, radio version, and what city you live/operate in?
Thanks!
I'm running a Galaxy Nexus, and while I've heard of speeds up to 20mbs I've only been getting 2-6mbs and it's rather disappointing.
On my GNex I get 8-12 Mb down and 1.7Mb up. I'm on T-mobile in the Boston area. No custom ROMs, although it is rooted and I've manually updated up to ICL53F. I was only getting 750Kb with my N900 so I'm more than a little pleased.
andythefan said:
In addition to your average speed test speeds, could you please provide if your device is running a custom rom, radio version, and what city you live/operate in?
Thanks!
I'm running a Galaxy Nexus, and while I've heard of speeds up to 20mbs I've only been getting 2-6mbs and it's rather disappointing.
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That is what you get on average and sounds correct. May be if you are in very good coverage area, you may get 8-9 but on average what you are getting is pretty norm. And personally this is more than enough speed for streaming and browsing, but agree everyone has different needs.
It is highly unlikely to get 20 Mbps on tmobile or ATT hspa networks.
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I have a friend who was running the Galaxy Skyrocket (SGSII branded for AT&T) who has "4G" in an area with 4G coverage and he boasted 20+mbs easily. I'm guessing since not many customers have access to 4G yet the networks don't have to share bandwidth and can be that quick. Is this true to how cell towers work?
It's just disappointing that T-Mobile's "4G" network is so slow and inconsistent, yet they don't have plans to upgrade their towers or change to different data service.
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I have a friend who was running the Galaxy Skyrocket (SGSII branded for AT&T) who has "4G" in an area with 4G coverage and he boasted 20+mbs easily. I'm guessing since not many customers have access to 4G yet the networks don't have to share bandwidth and can be that quick. Is this true to how cell towers work?
It's just disappointing that T-Mobile's "4G" network is so slow and inconsistent, yet they don't have plans to upgrade their towers or change to different data service.
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Skyrocket is an LTE device. Not HSPA+.
How is 6mbps disappointing?
Are you torrenting movies or something?
Webpages load fast on a solid H+ connection, I can't believe people aren't satisfied with HSPA+ speeds.
I get anywhere between 2.5 to 9mbps depending on where I am.
I've hit 10mbps in the bay area, but i average 4-6mbps. I'm on the $30 100-min prepaid plan. Stock 4.0.1
Best: 5.38Mbps down 1.42Mbps up 145ms
Worst: 1.33 down .29 up 102ms
Average: 2.5Mbps up 1Mbps down 100ms
Location: Broward County Florida. According to T-Mobile a 42mbps area.
Rom: Android Revolution 2.12 Android 4.02 Baseband: XXKK1
I'm dissapointed only because i've seen phones in tmobile stores reach 22-23 and mine gets around 4-5. very aggrivating to see that. but i'm fine with the speeds i'm getting for what i do, but it is annoying to see phones in the same location get better speeds.
however, my nexus one for the last year almost never got over 1.5 so this is a huge step up from that.
Around where I work near Long Beach, I only get 2-3mbps up and around 1 down.
Usually 7-8 down and 2 up in San Antonio, which is good enough for me
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neok44 said:
evolution 2.12 Android 4.02 Baseband: XXKK1
I'm dissapointed only because i've seen phones in tmobile stores reach 22-23 and mine gets around 4-5. very aggrivating to see that. but i'm fine with the speeds i'm getting for what i do, but it is annoying to see phones in the same location get better speeds.
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I agree. I was either getting the Galaxy Nexus or the Galaxy S II for T-Mobile. The GSII is really looking a lot better now. Way faster transfer speeds, better camera, and possibly a better processor.
I'm paying the same amount for data each month, I feel disappointed that the Galaxy Nexus can only get a fourth of what other phones on the same network are capable of.
neok44 said:
Best: 5.38Mbps down 1.42Mbps up 145ms
Worst: 1.33 down .29 up 102ms
Average: 2.5Mbps up 1Mbps down 100ms
Location: Broward County Florida. According to T-Mobile a 42mbps area.
Rom: Android Revolution 2.12 Android 4.02 Baseband: XXKK1
I'm dissapointed only because i've seen phones in tmobile stores reach 22-23 and mine gets around 4-5. very aggrivating to see that. but i'm fine with the speeds i'm getting for what i do, but it is annoying to see phones in the same location get better speeds.
however, my nexus one for the last year almost never got over 1.5 so this is a huge step up from that.
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The galaxy nexus doesn't support 42 mbps down, so you are disappointed your phone doesn't get speeds it isn't supposed to?
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andythefan said:
I agree. I was either getting the Galaxy Nexus or the Galaxy S II for T-Mobile. The GSII is really looking a lot better now. Way faster transfer speeds, better camera, and possibly a better processor.
I'm paying the same amount for data each month, I feel disappointed that the Galaxy Nexus can only get a fourth of what other phones on the same network are capable of.
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the galaxy nexus still puts the GS2 to shame just because of ICS. I was the same, GS2 or GN, and honestly i don't regret my decision at all. Yes the GS2 gets better download, and has a better camera, but the GN is an overall better device just because of stock ICS. and there is no way of knowing when the GS2 will get ICS.
As far as the download speeds go, i have absolutly no proof of this, and tmonews has said that they know nothing. But i honestly think that tmobile does something to unknown devices to drop their speed. because if i can walk into a tmobile store and see 3 phones get 18-33Mbps, then the galaxy nexus should easily be hitting aroud 10-20, not 5.
neok44 said:
the galaxy nexus still puts the GS2 to shame just because of ICS. I was the same, GS2 or GN, and honestly i don't regret my decision at all. Yes the GS2 gets better download, and has a better camera, but the GN is an overall better device just because of stock ICS. and there is no way of knowing when the GS2 will get ICS.
As far as the download speeds go, i have absolutly no proof of this, and tmonews has said that they know nothing. But i honestly think that tmobile does something to unknown devices to drop their speed. because if i can walk into a tmobile store and see 3 phones get 18-33Mbps, then the galaxy nexus should easily be hitting aroud 10-20, not 5.
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It's called a controlled QoS. They prioritize their own IMEI's.
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ROM: AOKP
KERNEL: Franco
Something went weird with the ping on the speedtest
13-16meg down - Verizon LTE - burbs of Chicago.
8 Mbps down | 3 Mbps up | Ping ~120ms
Stock 4.0.2 with XXKK6 baseband
St. Paul MN
I got these same speeds when I had the Sensation so I don't think they prioritize their own IMEI's.
zephiK said:
RADIO: XXKK6
ROM: AOKP
KERNEL: Franco
Something went weird with the ping on the speedtest
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Is this on TMobile? I thought the HPSA+ showed up as "H" above the signal bars and not "4G"
tclarkey said:
13-16meg down - Verizon LTE - burbs of Chicago.
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This thread is about T-mobile. NOT Verizon.
joshnichols189 said:
The galaxy nexus doesn't support 42 mbps down, so you are disappointed your phone doesn't get speeds it isn't supposed to?
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Not a dumb ass, i know that, but in a 42Mbps area on a phone thats capable of 21Mbps, it should not be getting 5Mbps.
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It's called a controlled QoS. They prioritize their own IMEI's.
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Do you know for a fact that T-Mobile does this? Another interesting reason why i don't think tmobile does is because my dads Samsung Vibrant, which is capable of 7Mbps download, has never gotten over 3, even when my nexus one used to get 5. And my Galaxy Nexus continues to beat his by 1-2Mbps on average.
I'm coming from HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile, so I was wondering if EVDO speeds on Sprint are supposed to be this slow? EVDO should be capable of at least 1 Mbps.
I'm consistently getting less than 300 kbps download, so are Sprint's EVDO speeds really closer to EDGE than 3G?
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etirkca said:
I'm coming from HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile, so I was wondering if EVDO speeds on Sprint are supposed to be this slow? EVDO should be capable of at least 1 Mbps.
I'm consistently getting <300 kbps download, so are Sprint's EVDO speeds really closer to EDGE than 3G?
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I would say it depends on the time + place your using 3G at. I sometimes get as low as your saying but sometimes can get over 1MB but only at certain times and certain places.
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They are usually pretty good. Id suggest trying the 3g turbocharger. Its never disappointed me. I usually can only get around .60mbps.
This is with it :
This is with out it :
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Honestly, sprint is just awful in some areas. I'm okay with it because I pay a lot less and usually have wifi anyway, but yea, the service is just pathetic.
In LA, I regularly get 5-50 kb/s download and upload with 3g. If I'm lucky, I'll get around 300--this happens maybe 1/10 days. This is in a flat, well populated area of Los Angeles, not a boonie by any means. It's really disappointing.
4g, when it (rarely) works, is also way slower than I had hoped for... maybe 1.8 down, 200 up.
Funny thing about unlimited data is that with crap speeds like this, I could probably download all month long and not reach the limit of other providers...
I am occasionally able to hit 1000 kbps up and down but at my house it's normally about 300 kbps each. I had 4G today and it was a pitiful 500 kbps down and 50 kbps up with a ping of 500. Be glad you have data at all...
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Honestly, sprint is just awful in some areas. I'm okay with it because I pay a lot less and usually have wifi anyway, but yea, the service is just pathetic.
In LA, I regularly get 5-50 kb/s download and upload with 3g. If I'm lucky, I'll get around 300--this happens maybe 1/10 days. This is in a flat, well populated area of Los Angeles, not a boonie by any means. It's really disappointing.
4g, when it (rarely) works, is also way slower than I had hoped for... maybe 1.8 down, 200 up.
Funny thing about unlimited data is that with crap speeds like this, I could probably download all month long and not reach the limit of other providers...
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You would think that in LA we'd get better service?! I usually get 0.5 mbs up and down on 3g and 4-5mbs down and 1-2 mbs up in my area though...
Sprint putting up lte... that's been the cause of all the crappy data... I'm almost certain somebody had a picture of them putting stuff up in los Angeles and their 3g was down and 4g was pitiful.
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You would think that in LA we'd get better service?! I usually get 0.5 mbs up and down on 3g and 4-5mbs down and 1-2 mbs up in my area though...
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No kidding. The population density here seems like it would be a good cost-value job to throw in more towers...
Network vision is underway in LA, which will affect certain areas and connectivity
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It's official. Sprint has the worst 3G and 4G speeds among major carriers. :thumbdown: I'm not surprised at all.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5902947/which-carriers-have-the-fastest-3g-and-4g-connections/gallery/
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Not compared to ****ty ATT Hspa! Absolute crap in Daytona area. Barely get Sprint 3G speeds out of it. ATT has barely started their LTE rollout.
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etirkca said:
I'm coming from HSPA+ speeds on T-Mobile, so I was wondering if EVDO speeds on Sprint are supposed to be this slow? EVDO should be capable of at least 1 Mbps.
I'm consistently getting <300 kbps download, so are Sprint's EVDO speeds really closer to EDGE than 3G?
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It's true. Sprint really is just that awful. Sprint's "3G" is slower than AT&T's 2G. I'm still happier than I was with AT&T, though, since I always have some kind of data signal on Sprint. I might be roaming, and I might get only 5kbps down, but at least I have something. On AT&T I would frequently have ZERO signal and my phone was a worthless oversized paperweight.
Sitting in my own living room, where I have 5 full bars of Sprint 3G signal, I have similar speed to what you posted. Yours might be a bit faster, actually. This is completely normal average speed -- I am fairly certain that Sprint is NOT doing these "network vision" upgrades in east Texas anytime soon, if ever. Contrast that with Verizon -- my buddy was sitting right next to me with maxed out LTE signal, pulling 30mbps on the same speed test. That's faster than my Roadrunner Elite. He then dropped to Verizon 3G and got about 5mbps down. On both tests, his ping was <100ms and mine was >500ms.
I firmly believe that the only reason Sprint still offers "unlimited" data is that there is no need for a cap -- you are limited directly by the speed of your connection and you cannot reasonably even come close to 5GB of data usage in a month. Unless you have consistent Wimax signal, which I estimate maybe 1% of their subscribers have.
etirkca said:
It's official. Sprint has the worst 3G and 4G speeds among major carriers. :thumbdown: I'm not surprised at all.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5902947/which-carriers-have-the-fastest-3g-and-4g-connections/gallery/
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tmobile seems to want to have it both ways. they call their hspa+ 4g, but then throw it in to comparisons against other carriers 3g.
le boo.
from the article... T-Mobile's HSPA+ 21 service won in the 3G bracket of our study, and the company's high-end HSPA+ 42 service competed reasonably well with other providers' 4G service.
3g speeds are poor in some areas but recently have seen a slight improvement in my area. I'm hoping the network vision upgrades will help like they say it will.
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Obviously there is no credibility to that article. There are several places around Daytona that I get over 1Mbs on 3G. I can just as easily measure ATT's 4G in my area to show it slower than Sprint's 3G. Most of the time I have to toggle airplane mode on the stupid ATT phone from work just to get it to load my work screen.
Different areas have different speeds... I get 1.5-2 mbps on 3g.... of course about 2 months ago I was only getting .30 mbps on 3g... 4g is super fast though. Lol
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I had been using the EL30 modem for quite some time and 3G speeds were horrid around the Chicago suburbs. Like bad bad. If I wasn't on 4G, I didn't even want to use my phone for anything data related.
I know NV is being deployed around this area right now, but I recently switched to the FC09 modem, and it's a night and day difference. I used to get around 0.1Mbps if I was luckly. Lately, since the switch, I've been getting more closer to 0.8-1.0Mbps which I'm quite happy with considering it's 3G.
4G I usually pull around 5-7Mbps down (but have hit 10 a few times; that's a full 1MBps down) and I usually cap it at the 1.5MBps up. That's faster than my wifi at home through AT&T UVerse.
Average Sprint 3G data speeds decreased from 2011 to 2012. Maybe because of the influx of iPhone customers?
Welcome to Sprint. Where the 3G is 2G, and the 4G is 3G.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2538...peed_showdown_which_networks_are_fastest.html
So my question to you is; why'd you leave T-mobile? If they were so great for you, you should have stayed with Big Magenta.
I'm not being flippant here. Carriers are like organized religion. What works for one person offends someone else. In the end, all of us get through to The Supreme Being.
I, personally, always find myself on Wi-Fi so I don't give a crap.
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orlzzt said:
So my question to you is; why'd you leave T-mobile? If they were so great for you, you should have stayed with Big Magenta.
I'm not being flippant here. Carriers are like organized religion. What works for one person offends someone else. In the end, all of us get through to The Supreme Being.
I, personally, always find myself on Wi-Fi so I don't give a crap.
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You're right. I should have stayed.
With my corporate discount, my equivalent plan on Sprint is cheaper, so I switched. It's too bad that article showing crappy Sprint data speeds didn't come out earlier, I probably would have stuck with T.
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