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hspa on mt3gs

Does this device recieve "4g" signal? more like hspa? Someone asked me if i could do it to their phone, but im not sure it there is an actual way to do it.

It does, but it doesn't take full advantage of it, you'll defenetly get faster download and upload speeds than other phones, if u root and flash a rom with the latest radio you'll be able to see the little H instead of 3g when you're receiving 4g speeds..
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sxufeastkilla said:
It does, but it doesn't take full advantage of it, you'll defenetly get faster download and upload speeds than other phones, if u root and flash a rom with the latest radio you'll be able to see the little H instead of 3g when you're receiving 4g speeds..
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Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!

Tzatlacael said:
Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
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I didn't know that. Is there some more info on this 3G/H business?

That is not true as I am clearly in the United States and I see the H symbol now and never 3g and my download speeds are faster than ever.
Tzatlacael said:
Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
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My understanding was that we would benefit from the 4G upgrades made to towers and whatnot, but we wouldn't get 4G speeds obviously.
I was thinking it would be like a, "3.25G" ... as I think somebody said in some thread somewhere.
Somewhat related, I noticed on CM7 when my phone idles it'll say 3G, with whatever bars and then when I use the network, the 3G will become an H.
I think the confusion is because they decided to use an "H" instead of something else, so you don't know what you're on.

The latest tests I've done using the new radio and CM7 yield me around 2450 each time.
Close enough. 4G is around 2500.

PcFish said:
The latest tests I've done using the new radio and CM7 yield me around 2450 each time.
Close enough. 4G is around 2500.
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Oh wow, so I was in 4G territory here, huh. Nice
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I'm LOVING CM-7 now! In CM6 I barely got over 1 mbps download speed even with the newest radio.

Tzatlacael said:
Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
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Yes, thats right. No 4G on the MT3GS...
3G is pure W-CDMA/UMTS. H is the upgrade HSPA...
You can take a look on the test menu (*#*#4636#*#*) > Phone Information...
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iDaZzLeFatHoeZz said:
That is not true as I am clearly in the United States and I see the H symbol now and never 3g and my download speeds are faster than ever.
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It is true, I said it appears on European Roms, even if you are in the US (I am too) and use a port of a rom from a european phone/rom, you'll get the H.. Comprende?
I had a rom like that, and now on the unofficial release of the OTA, CR_Mod rom and I get the 3G just like the H and my download speeds I get only reach up to 300kps few times, and even on full 3G coverage. Most of the time it goes about 100kps most of the time... though I have the lastest radio as on last january...
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Um H comes on USA roms too that's what use to show up when I was both in 3g and 4g area when my g2 was stock...
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Speedtest
Not gonna get into the argument over what H means. I am getting almost identical bandwidth and latency results using speedtest.net before and after rooting/CM6(down 3.6Mbps/up 1.3mbps). With stock ROM it said 3G, with CM6 it says H. But there is no difference beyond that in my case at least.

New radio
Ok so after flashing the new radio my downlink jumped to 4.07mbps. The uplink was unaffected.

jrgraber said:
Ok so after flashing the new radio my downlink jumped to 4.07mbps. The uplink was unaffected.
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Yeah my up seems to be the same.
Not very good.

At my GF's house I test randomly and get about 4 - 5.3 down average, at my house I get aprox 3.5 - 4 average and both places maintain a steady 1.6 up. I've read specs on the phone that states the slide (in perfect conditions I assume) is capable of 7.2 Down...

Whoever is saying that H is european only is a moron. To clarify, when you see an H, you are connected to the "3.25"/"3.5"G network, HSDPA. When it just shows 3G, you are connected to the UTMS (3G) network. Speeds on HSDPA are significantly higher, but not the same speed as the HSDPA+, 3.75G or tmobile's "4G". Our phones do not have hardware capable of HSDPA+, just HSDPA. I get around 2-4 mbps with the radio update on hsdpa. In most areas, it seems that your phone will idle on 3G (UTMS) and when data is being actively sent/received, your phone activated HSDPA, but in some areas I've been, such as washington D.C., the phone will idle on HSDPA at all times, rather than switch between 3G and HSDPA. On some stock roms, namely sense ones, there is no separate icon for HSDPA in the framework, hence why you only see a 3G icon on said roms, but on an aosp based rom like cm6, or cm7, or arayraymod, you will see an H when connected to HSDPA.
As for the specs of the slide, yes, HSDPA is *capable*, theoretically, of that 7mbps, but real life speeds don't get that high. Similarly, hsdpa+ is theoretically capable of some 20 or 40 mbps, I don't fully remember, but real life speeds never get above 8 to 16 or something, again, I don't fully remember.
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It's always nice to see someone come into a thread like this with real information.
MusicMan374 is exactly right. The reason I bought this phone when it came out was that it was using HSDPA and would be faster than straight up 3g. And indeed it is. Like others have mentioned, typical dl speeds are in the 2 to 4 Mbps range for me, but I have gone up over 5 Mbps in some locations. I am in the Philly area and my phone idles on HSDPA (i.e. I haven't seen the "3G" symbol on any CM roms I've tried on this phone).
You can see what network type the phone is using under settings -> about phone. In the CM roms you'll find it under status -> mobile network type. Don't remember if it is in the same location for stock rom, but I remember it is there.

JTownBrewer said:
You can see what network type the phone is using under settings -> about phone. In the CM roms you'll find it under status -> mobile network type. Don't remember if it is in the same location for stock rom, but I remember it is there.
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In stock rom CR Mod actually, on Settings then About Phone then Network. I'm on stock and it says HSDPA and I have the 3G icon, in other Sense roms it always showed the H, but I been always on the same area... @[email protected]
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Tzatlacael said:
In stock rom CR Mod actually, on Settings then About Phone then Network. I'm on stock and it says HSDPA and I have the 3G icon, in other Sense roms it always showed the H, but I been always on the same area... @[email protected]
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Yes, the stock espresso rom does not show H when connected to HSDPA, it just shows 3G, but if it says HSDPA in mobile network type, you're on hsdpa. Hsdpa for me greatly increases dl speeds. When HSDPA isn't active, just regular 3g, I get about up to 1 mbps, most of the time under. Almost as bad as edge.
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Sprint converts its CDMA network to LTE, to be completed by 2013

Sprint converts its CDMA network to LTE, plans 'aggressive rollout' to be completed by 2013
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We knew more or less that anannouncement of this sort*was coming. Back in July,*Dan Hesse had teased usface-to-face with the promise of a "great story this fall around 4G," and now the time to tell that tale has arrived. At its strategy event today, Sprint finally went public with plans to "simplify its network" by converting its CDMA 1900MHz holdings and LightSquared's 1600MHZ spectrum ("pending FCC approval") to LTE, anindustry favorite. Helping the operator make that transition is the swath of 800MHz spectrum it reclaimed from the, now defunct,*iDEN push-to-talk network*-- which had been a drain on the company's resources. This spectrum, acquired from Nextel, will be phased out by mid-2013 and rolled into LTE. The company plans for a rapid deployment of this new 4G, with the first LTE markets and handsets to hit in mid-2012 with the full rollout mostly completed by 2013. Current subscribers signed up for WiMAX plans won't have to worry as their devices will continue to be supported throughout 2012.Beginning tomorrow, Sprint's consolidating its 4G LTE (including LightSquared), 3G and Direct Connect networks into one single architecture. All the major technical milestones, such as test calls and field integration, have cleared their hurdles and work on over 22,000 cell sites are currently in process. Samsung, Alcatel Lucent and Ericsson have partnered with Sprint to install multimode 3G and 4G base stations to handle the network's future traffic, essential for deploying the multitude of frequencies required by hosted devices. Prospective iPhone 4S users on the network will be able to take advantage of better signal strength and improved voice service as Sprint intends to also offload the latter onto 800MHz.Expect a steep "reduction in roaming costs" and deeper signal penetration throughout the operator's expanding national footprint over the course of the next two years. Naturally, LTE speeds on this new network will be significantly improved over the currently in-use WiMAX, and a planned implementation of WiFi offloading should help to cut congestion by 20 percent. By the end of next year, Sprint aims to have a combined WiMAX/LTE population coverage of 176 million -- with 123 million covered by LTE and 76 million overlapping both. When the network build-out is nearly complete in 2013, the company should have over 250 million blanketed in LTE, far outstripping the stagnant 120 million served by WiMAX.
Source: http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...a-network-to-lte/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I really don't think Engadget and BGR are getting this right! It's not being converted to LTE - the LTE will be everywhere that 3G is, but its multimode architecture doesn't mean 3G is being replaced! They said they are "committed" to the 3G services long-term, and will be maintaining them. They pointed out how the enterprise customer is important, and demands at least 3-5 year stability.

k0nane said:
I really don't think Engadget and BGR are getting this right! It's not being converted to LTE - the LTE will be everywhere that 3G is, but its multimode architecture doesn't mean 3G is being replaced! They said they are "committed" to the 3G services long-term, and will be maintaining them. They pointed out how the enterprise customer is important, and demands at least 3-5 year stability.
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Yeah i agree ^^^

So am I safe with this new rollout with the E4GT?
3G speeds seriously blow ass here, and i get full bars

DonutGrunt said:
So am I safe with this new rollout with the E4GT?
3G speeds seriously blow ass here, and i get full bars
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Yes, though you won't get LTE. Capacity is being increased everywhere, even for 3G.

k0nane said:
Yes, though you won't get LTE. Capacity is being increased everywhere, even for 3G.
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This is confusing. I read on Blog post in Sprint website that we would be supported for LTE 4G since will use 800mhz for this. I guess we can hope and see what finally passes.

k0nane said:
Yes, though you won't get LTE. Capacity is being increased everywhere, even for 3G.
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How slow is Sprint's 3G compared to other networks?
I have 114 kB/s down right now

Docarut said:
This is confusing. I read on Blog post in Sprint website that we would be supported for LTE 4G since will use 800mhz for this. I guess we can hope and see what finally passes.
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[Citation Needed]
LTE is only, at this point, a speculation on 800mhz. 1900mhz is first, then 1600mhz via LightSquared.
DonutGrunt said:
How slow is Sprint's 3G compared to other networks?
I have 114 kB/s down right now
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I've seen 1.8mbit and as low as shameful. I'd say 800kbit-1mbit on average. Not bad, not amazing.

DonutGrunt said:
How slow is Sprint's 3G compared to other networks?
I have 114 kB/s down right now
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I had t-mobile up until this phone and t-mobile i was averaging about 3 to 6mbps down on their 3g on my nexus. I was also utilizing their hsdpa network as well.
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Docarut said:
This is confusing. I read on Blog post in Sprint website that we would be supported for LTE 4G since will use 800mhz for this. I guess we can hope and see what finally passes.
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Lte on 800MHz is different from our phones supporting the 800 mhz. Our only work on the network as far as cdma goes but we don't have a lte chip
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See now I don't know what to do. I was considering the ET4G or the Nexus Prime if it gets announced soon. But I'm wondering If I should stick with my OG EVO until LTE starts to roll out and see what phone comes then? My 3G blows along with 4G only getting like 2.5 down and I'm in Kansas City, right down the road from the Sprint Headquarters. I'm pretty disappointed in these speeds.

Iczer said:
See now I don't know what to do. I was considering the ET4G or the Nexus Prime if it gets announced soon. But I'm wondering If I should stick with my OG EVO until LTE starts to roll out and see what phone comes then? My 3G blows along with 4G only getting like 2.5 down and I'm in Kansas City, right down the road from the Sprint Headquarters. I'm pretty disappointed in these speeds.
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Sprint made it clear that LTE won't be of much use until late 2012, but they will be selling WiMAX phones through 2012 and supporting WiMAX for much longer. Also, watch for speed increases as they continue to increase backhaul as part of Network Vision.

What's most exciting about all this is the transition from EVDO to 1x advanced
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craigbailey1986 said:
Lte on 800MHz is different from our phones supporting the 800 mhz. Our only work on the network as far as cdma goes but we don't have a lte chip
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Thanks for the information. This from Sprint's Community Forum and comments muddy the water for guys like me.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...blog/2011/09/15/what-is-sprint-network-vision

Docarut said:
Thanks for the information. This from Sprint's Community Forum and comments muddy the water for guys like me.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...blog/2011/09/15/what-is-sprint-network-vision
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Read the Network Vision thread, and follow me on Twitter.

k0nane said:
Read the Network Vision thread, and follow me on Twitter.
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Will do. Thanks!

So will we see increases in 3G speeds? If so when should we expect this?
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dcraig723 said:
So will we see increases in 3G speeds? If so when should we expect this?
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I've answered this about ten times already. Please read the other thread.

I get REALLLLYYY SLOW 3g speeds in Metro Detroit.. i average 0.1 - 0.3 Mbps...

DonutGrunt said:
So am I safe with this new rollout with the E4GT?
3G speeds seriously blow ass here, and i get full bars
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3G speeds having nothing to do with the antenna bars you see on your phone. It would make sense that if you have a strong cell signal, you should also have a strong data signal, but welcome to Sprint!

[Q] HSPA+ 21Mbps, Speedtests?

Hi so I know the Galaxy Nexus is only going to be using the 21mbps HSPA+, so anyone know what the average download speed is usually? ..maybe someone living in NYC ran some speedtests?
btw although ive heard multiple times that the nexus will have HSPA+ 21Mbps, but didnt google/samsung didnt they show a chart at the ICS unveiling that the nexus would go up to 42Mbps on HSPA+ ?

My 5 mbps might be your 2mbps. Locations will vary, as will all the other factors. And no, 21mbps max for the modem inside your phone. Cant exceed that.
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Well living in amajor city, with great coverage, what kind of speeds can I expect? I'm hoping for at least 10mbps during low congestion and at least a reliable 4mbps during peak hours.
But yeah there was a chart at the ics unveiling that showed the nexus using HSPA+ 42mbps. Maybe the USA gsm model will be able to take advantage of the high end tmo and att 4g networks like the TMo SGS2 can
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You can't expect anything. The phone isn't what determines the speed, the network does. You could get different speeds on different sides of the street with the same phone and same network.
You shouldn't expect this phone to give you any faster/slower speed than another HSPA+ phone on T-mobile in the same location. You'll have to see for yourself.
The current version of the HSPA+ Galaxy Nexus is 21mbps. You won't see real-world 21mbps on T-mobile any time soon, so don't worry about it not being a 42mbps modem lol.

martonikaj said:
You can't expect anything. The phone isn't what determines the speed, the network does. You could get different speeds on different sides of the street with the same phone and same network.
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How about the radio then.. it should be able to use TMO/ATT's 42Mbps HSPA+ right?

Dmw017 said:
How about the radio then.. it should be able to use TMO/ATT's 42Mbps HSPA+ right?
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Well of course if the phone only has an HSPA+ 21mbps radio, it can't go faster than that....
And FWIW I don't think AT&T has anything more than 21mbps deployed widely. Most areas are still on 14.4mbps, or even 7mbps HSPA.

I am in Minneapolis right by 4g towers and I only get 5 mbps download on my T-Mobile galaxy s2 (42mbps) so those numbers mean absolutely nothing. You will never even hit the basic 14.4
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martonikaj said:
Well of course if the phone only has an HSPA+ 21mbps radio, it can't go faster than that....
And FWIW I don't think AT&T has anything more than 21mbps deployed widely. Most areas are still on 14.4mbps, or even 7mbps HSPA.
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that's my question I guess, does the phone in fact have a 21mbps radio or the new 42mbps one :x I know the omap4460 processor can't do LTE but HSPA+ shouldnt be a problem
Edit: Ah found the pic from the ICS unveiling.
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Dmw017 said:
that's my question I guess, does the phone in fact have a 21mbps radio or the new 42mbps one :x I know the omap4460 processor can't do LTE but HSPA+ shouldnt be a problem
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Just like I said before, it has a pentaband HSPA+ 21mbps radio.
Towle said:
I am in Minneapolis right by 4g towers and I only get 5 mbps download on my T-Mobile galaxy s2 (42mbps) so those numbers mean absolutely nothing. You will never even hit the basic 14.4
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Like we've said, that's your experience with your area and your phone. I have a G2 (which as 14.4mbps HSPA+) and I can easily pull 10mbps down. Others have reported pulling upwards of 15mbps on various HSPA+ devices. Its definitely possible, but not something that people can come to expect as "normal" speeds.

My nexus s is theoretically capable of 7 mbit. I get anywhere from 1 to mid 4's usually. I'll take whatever 21mbit support nets. I would be tickled pink if it got 5-10 consistently.
Edit: NYC
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martonikaj said:
Just like I said before, it has a pentaband HSPA+ 21mbps radio.
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Oh sorry I missed the edit in your last post. Has the radio been confirmed to be 21 or is that speculation?

Dmw017 said:
Oh sorry I missed the edit in your last post. Has the radio been confirmed to be 21 or is that speculation?
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It is confirmed. All that picture is showing is that LTE's theoretical speeds are higher than HSPA+ 42mbps theoretical speeds.
All we know right now is that there are 2 versions to be released. 1 has CDMA/LTE, and 1 has GSM/HSPA+ 21.

martonikaj said:
It is confirmed. All that picture is showing is that LTE's theoretical speeds are higher than HSPA+ 42mbps theoretical speeds.
All we know right now is that there are 2 versions to be released. 1 has CDMA/LTE, and 1 has GSM/HSPA+ 21.
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awesome, thanks :}
21Mbps is fine, I'm coming from Verizon's 3G which did like 1mbps on average so this is a step up lol

Dmw017 said:
awesome, thanks :}
21Mbps is fine, I'm coming from Verizon's 3G which did like 1mbps on average so this is a step up lol
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And that's why they have to have an LTE version. Because CDMA is slooooooow.

pukemon said:
My 5 mbps might be your 2mbps. Locations will vary, as will all the other factors. And no, 21mbps max for the modem inside your phone. Cant exceed that.
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Actually, you can.
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network runs on a 42Mbps speed.

hotleadsingerguy said:
Actually, you can.
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network runs on a 42Mbps speed.
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But the phone only has a 21mbps modem.

Then what was the purpose of showing HSPA+42 in the chart if the galaxy nexus will not be able to use it? I'm wondering because I am on Tmobile and I was so sure it would be on Tmobile's new HSPA+42 network.
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I never saw over 7Mbps in Atlanta. Calling HSPA+ "4G" is just blatant false advertising. I easily get 28Mbps on LTE in the same areas.
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I never saw over 7Mbps in Atlanta. Calling HSPA+ "4G" is just blatant false advertising. I easily get 28Mbps on LTE in the same areas.
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What phone did you have in Tmobile's network? Because with Tmobile's theoretical speeds you can cut that in half for real world speeds (i.e. Tmobile's HSPA+42 theoretical speeds is around 21mbps real speeds).
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Tone503773 said:
What phone did you have in Tmobile's network? Because with Tmobile's theoretical speeds you can cut that in half for real world speeds (i.e. Tmobile's HSPA+42 theoretical speeds is around 21mbps real speeds).
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The G2, MT4G, and Sensation.

GSM Nexus speed on AT&T (Austin, TX)

I don't know if this is a question or more of a poll...
I think I'm getting horrible 3G speeds here in Austin, TX. It also seems like I'm being capped. When I have full bars, speedtest always shows around a 3Mbps down and 1 Mbps up transfer speeds. I've tested this in many places around North Austin / Round Rock.
What speeds are others getting?
Could my sim card or data plan need tweaking from AT&T? I ask this because I was previously on a Galaxy Note with LTE and they had to switch me to a LTE plan at the time. Outside where I work, the LTE signal strength is very strong and I've gotten amazing speeds with the Note. But with the Nexus, I get the 3/1 speeds.
Any ideas?

What are your APN settings, also are you on the smartphone or medianet plan?

allyourbase said:
What are your APN settings, also are you on the smartphone or medianet plan?
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Thank you for helping me.
I'm on a smartphone plan. Which APN settings are you wanting? There are a lot!

I live in Bastrop, like 30 miles east of Austin, and am getting about 2.5-3 down and .4-1.2 up. I was pretty disappointed because I thought I had remembered pulling more on my Captivate(smart phone plan though), too bad it broke. I'm using the MediaNet plan on ATT with AndroidHD Revolution(4.1.1) and Franco r223.
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If you're on the smartphone plan, I'm assuming you're using the "phone" apn? Also, you're aware that you can get unlimited hspa with the non smartphone plan formerly known as media net.
Who knows this could be purely speculation but let's say AT&T already has your imei number you could be automatically bumped to the same smartphone data plan if you attempt to use the dumb phone plan.
I am unsure how quick AT&T is figuring this stuff out. I had an AT&T GS2 and switched to a dumb flip phone then bought a GNex, took the sim card out of the dumb one and transplanted into the GNex and boom, unlimited data and texting for $30 a month.

I'm already on an unlimited smartphone plan. I chatted with AT&T support and there are currently no restrictions on my data plan. He also switch IMEI from the Note to the Nexus and moved me from a LTE plan to 3G plan. Data speeds remain the same.
I wonder if anyone with a GSM Nexus in Austin is able to get > 3Mbps...

Try the phone apn?

allyourbase said:
Try the phone apn?
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I'm sorry. I guess I don't know what you mean?

those speeds are normal for a 3G smartphone. Even with HSPA+. Remember, the Unlocked Nexus isn't LTE.

dwd3885 said:
those speeds are normal for a 3G smartphone. Even with HSPA+. Remember, the Unlocked Nexus isn't LTE.
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I just did a test a few days ago and got this...
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dschreiber69 said:
I just did a test a few days ago and got this...
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You are on a SGS2 with HSPA+? Which city are you in?

Try testing with actual downloads instead of speed test sites. My speed test (I'm in northern Colorado) always tells me about 3Mb/s down 1Mb/s up too, but on actual downloads and manual tests, I hit 8-10 Mb/s even in kind of rural areas.

I'm in Indiana and get around 3-4mbit down and 1-1.5mbit up. The fastest ive seen once is 7mbit down.
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I remember with the captivate, the speeds would vary widely depending on which part of town I was in. But with the Nexus, it just seems very artificial to hit right around 3 down / 1 up every time. Almost like AT&T is capping it similar to what they did to the captivate. The modem AT&T put on the captivate was throttled for whatever reason but flashing an international modem removed it.

flintdragon said:
I remember with the captivate, the speeds would vary widely depending on which part of town I was in. But with the Nexus, it just seems very artificial to hit right around 3 down / 1 up every time. Almost like AT&T is capping it similar to what they did to the captivate. The modem AT&T put on the captivate was throttled for whatever reason but flashing an international modem removed it.
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ATT uses QoS to determine which devices on their network receive priority as well. Iphones receive the most for cell phones of course.
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In san diego the best and average i get is 3.5 mbps down. I am on the unlimited medianet plan
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flintdragon said:
You are on a SGS2 with HSPA+? Which city are you in?
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Yeah. I had to send my Gnex in for service. Only got to use it for 17 days
Harbor Springs Michigan

Sorry to bring back an old thread, but I am wondering on this myself. I bought my gnex from google play, got it and noticed that the data rates are pretty steady at around 2.5 - 3.5 max down, and .9 - 1.2 up. The gnex has a 21Mbit HSPA+ radio in it, so in theory it should accept whatever AT&T can push to it. However, I came from an Atrix 2, and can vouch for the fact that the Atrix 2 when using the PTA APN on HSPA+ (no LTE for about 200 miles where I'm at) will download consistently between 7 - 9 Mbit... Same server on speediest.net, same APN, same place, the signal is within 1dBm of each other.
Because I have found no base band that can change this, nor any APN setting I am starting to believe that if AT&T gets an IMEI of a phone that it doesnt recognize, they will throttle it.
Any one else have any insight? 3.5Mbit is plenty, but I'd like to get the same speeds as what I consider a lesser device.
If I could find a way to change the IMEI I'd test this theory.

^^^ Suprisingly, Its not att at all. Ask anyone on these forums, samsung has notoriously bad radios. Signal and cell strength just are not that great. And you can you can especially feel the difference coming from a motorola device. They have the strongest radios of all the major oems by far. No one even comes close.
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thekurrgan said:
Sorry to bring back an old thread, but I am wondering on this myself. I bought my gnex from google play, got it and noticed that the data rates are pretty steady at around 2.5 - 3.5 max down, and .9 - 1.2 up. The gnex has a 21Mbit HSPA+ radio in it, so in theory it should accept whatever AT&T can push to it. However, I came from an Atrix 2, and can vouch for the fact that the Atrix 2 when using the PTA APN on HSPA+ (no LTE for about 200 miles where I'm at) will download consistently between 7 - 9 Mbit... Same server on speediest.net, same APN, same place, the signal is within 1dBm of each other.
Because I have found no base band that can change this, nor any APN setting I am starting to believe that if AT&T gets an IMEI of a phone that it doesnt recognize, they will throttle it.
Any one else have any insight? 3.5Mbit is plenty, but I'd like to get the same speeds as what I consider a lesser device.
If I could find a way to change the IMEI I'd test this theory.
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Thanks for this update. just saw it. It's frustrating knowing our phones could do so much better.

Lack of 3G ? About to return my SGS3 for an iPhone

So is there a "3G" on the SGS3, because I either get full bars and "Edge" or I get "4G"(which is HSPA+) but I never have just plane jane "3G"?.....its starting to bug me because my friend has ATT as well and we will be standing in the same exact place and his iphone will get 3G while my SGS3 will only have edge.....I don't understand why this is? Does the iPhone have different antennas or something? I don't really want to trade my SGS3 in for an ios device, but all the features on the SGS3 become somewhat pointless when I can't really do anything because edge blows ass... So can anyone give me some insight into the matter?

Jaskwith said:
So is there a "3G" on the SGS3, because I either get full bars and "Edge" or I get "4G"(which is HSPA+) but I never have just plane jane "3G"?.....its starting to bug me because my friend has ATT as well and we will be standing in the same exact place and his iphone will get 3G while my SGS3 will only have edge.....I don't understand why this is? Does the iPhone have different antennas or something? I don't really want to trade my SGS3 in for an ios device, but all the features on the SGS3 become somewhat pointless when I can't really do anything because edge blows ass... So can anyone give me some insight into the matter?
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Have you looked in wireless and settings > mobile networks > Network Mode?

Hsdpa and hsdpa+ are 3g homie. The phone calls it 4G however as a marketing tool. If your on true 4G it will say 4G lte.
Check what user above said. And have you run a side by side speed test?
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Maybe you got a lemon but some of my coworkers have iPhone and in downtown area they get edge and I get 4G lte. I came from an iPhone also and I can tell you sgs3 has better signal everywhere and lte is the reason why.
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I would recomend getting a replacement S3 first to see if you have any improvements. If the phone doesn't use 3G or 4G(HSPA+) at all then that is not normal behavior. I have not once been connected to Edge since i got my phone a month ago.

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Have you looked in wireless and settings > mobile networks > Network Mode?
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corythug said:
Hsdpa and hsdpa+ are 3g homie. The phone calls it 4G however as a marketing tool. If your on true 4G it will say 4G lte.
Check what user above said. And have you run a side by side speed test?
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sabre31 said:
Maybe you got a lemon but some of my coworkers have iPhone and in downtown area they get edge and I get 4G lte. I came from an iPhone also and I can tell you sgs3 has better signal everywhere and lte is the reason why.
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I don't have any of those network settings you are talking about. There is no wireless and settings? I have More settings and then network modes, but there isn't any selection for like 3G 2G LTE etc....
I ran a side by side speed test, and he got like 1.4MBPS and I couldn't even get the speed test to load, but after trying I did and it was like .3 MBPS...
I understand the LTE signal thing, but there is no LTE here and I don't think its coming anytime soon, I am in the military and currently operating out of Watertown, NY so yea... middle of no where.
I think I might have to try and replace it I suppose..I am within my thirty days, but unfortunately I didin't have time when I purchased it so I bought it at a wireless kiosk and they are a bit more of a pain to deal with when it comes to exchanging phones... Thanks for the input guys.

Not sure what's going on with your device. I'm either on H / 4G / 3G and on my iPhone 4 I was always on 3G. Completely different location/network than you, but it definitely sounds like your device is doing something strange.

Try toggling airplane mode on/off. For some reason, ics trends to drop to edge if you don't have a super strong signal.

mrhaley30705 said:
Try toggling airplane mode on/off. For some reason, ics trends to drop to edge if you don't have a super strong signal.
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Actually I have been doing this sometimes, it seems to work sometimes, but not always...
Question : Is there even a "3G" signal icon? Or It always just shows "4g" when you are on 3G and up?

Jaskwith said:
Actually I have been doing this sometimes, it seems to work sometimes, but not always...
Question : Is there even a "3G" signal icon? Or It always just shows "4g" when you are on 3G and up?
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Yes, there is an a 4G and 3G icon.
Long shot, but if you dial * # * # 4 6 3 6 # * # * in the keypad and choose Phone Info, what do you see under 'Set preferred network type:'?
Default is WCDMA preferred, I believe.
(Also be careful in here and DO NOT click the Update button.)

Dialer code didn't work for me. I had to use an app called Device Info. Under device information:
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don't get an iphone, those things are boring and lame

Jaskwith said:
So is there a "3G" on the SGS3, because I either get full bars and "Edge" or I get "4G"(which is HSPA+) but I never have just plane jane "3G"?.....its starting to bug me because my friend has ATT as well and we will be standing in the same exact place and his iphone will get 3G while my SGS3 will only have edge.....I don't understand why this is? Does the iPhone have different antennas or something? I don't really want to trade my SGS3 in for an ios device, but all the features on the SGS3 become somewhat pointless when I can't really do anything because edge blows ass... So can anyone give me some insight into the matter?
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It also depends on where you live, the area and the service providers radio towers connection to your device specifically

TheFiveDots said:
Yes, there is an a 4G and 3G icon.
Long shot, but if you dial * # * # 4 6 3 6 # * # * in the keypad and choose Phone Info, what do you see under 'Set preferred network type:'?
Default is WCDMA preferred, I believe.
(Also be careful in here and DO NOT click the Update button.)
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Depends what phone on at&t siii there us No 3g icon. OK there is one in systemui but it us not used. The phone always shows 4g when on 3g umts or hspda or pseudo 4g hspda+. it also shows edge and 4g lte. I am on a micro cell at home which is 3g and it still shows 4g. The way to really check us to go to system then about device then status and see what network mode you are on. Here in the screenshot you can see 4g but also that the phone is using hspda which is normally 3g in any other phone
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lgkahn said:
Depends what phone on at&t siii there us No 3g icon. OK there is one in systemui but it us not used. The phone always shows 4g when on 3g umts or hspda or pseudo 4g hspda+. it also shows edge and 4g lte. I am on a micro cell at home which is 3g and it still shows 4g. The way to really check us to go to system then about device then status and see what network mode you are on. Here in the screenshot you can see 4g but also that the phone is using hspda which is normally 3g in any other phone
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Interesting, thank you for your time and input
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If you are on "normal" 3G it will show umts instead of hsdpa.
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Just to be sure... your friend has an AT&T iPhone correct?
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If you use an AOSP from such as cyanogenmod 9, it will show 3g, 4g (LTE), h, g, and e.