Does this device recieve "4g" signal? more like hspa? Someone asked me if i could do it to their phone, but im not sure it there is an actual way to do it.
It does, but it doesn't take full advantage of it, you'll defenetly get faster download and upload speeds than other phones, if u root and flash a rom with the latest radio you'll be able to see the little H instead of 3g when you're receiving 4g speeds..
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It does, but it doesn't take full advantage of it, you'll defenetly get faster download and upload speeds than other phones, if u root and flash a rom with the latest radio you'll be able to see the little H instead of 3g when you're receiving 4g speeds..
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Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
Tzatlacael said:
Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
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I didn't know that. Is there some more info on this 3G/H business?
That is not true as I am clearly in the United States and I see the H symbol now and never 3g and my download speeds are faster than ever.
Tzatlacael said:
Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
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My understanding was that we would benefit from the 4G upgrades made to towers and whatnot, but we wouldn't get 4G speeds obviously.
I was thinking it would be like a, "3.25G" ... as I think somebody said in some thread somewhere.
Somewhat related, I noticed on CM7 when my phone idles it'll say 3G, with whatever bars and then when I use the network, the 3G will become an H.
I think the confusion is because they decided to use an "H" instead of something else, so you don't know what you're on.
The latest tests I've done using the new radio and CM7 yield me around 2450 each time.
Close enough. 4G is around 2500.
PcFish said:
The latest tests I've done using the new radio and CM7 yield me around 2450 each time.
Close enough. 4G is around 2500.
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Oh wow, so I was in 4G territory here, huh. Nice
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I'm LOVING CM-7 now! In CM6 I barely got over 1 mbps download speed even with the newest radio.
Tzatlacael said:
Nop, H is the symbol that a European rom uses to stand for 3G speed. A rom from the US uses 3G as symbol, while Europe uses H, both may mean HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access)
4G is HSDPA+ which we don't have in our phones, even with lastes Radio.
I still wouldn't change this thing by a new iPhone 4G!
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Yes, thats right. No 4G on the MT3GS...
3G is pure W-CDMA/UMTS. H is the upgrade HSPA...
You can take a look on the test menu (*#*#4636#*#*) > Phone Information...
regards
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That is not true as I am clearly in the United States and I see the H symbol now and never 3g and my download speeds are faster than ever.
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It is true, I said it appears on European Roms, even if you are in the US (I am too) and use a port of a rom from a european phone/rom, you'll get the H.. Comprende?
I had a rom like that, and now on the unofficial release of the OTA, CR_Mod rom and I get the 3G just like the H and my download speeds I get only reach up to 300kps few times, and even on full 3G coverage. Most of the time it goes about 100kps most of the time... though I have the lastest radio as on last january...
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Um H comes on USA roms too that's what use to show up when I was both in 3g and 4g area when my g2 was stock...
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Not gonna get into the argument over what H means. I am getting almost identical bandwidth and latency results using speedtest.net before and after rooting/CM6(down 3.6Mbps/up 1.3mbps). With stock ROM it said 3G, with CM6 it says H. But there is no difference beyond that in my case at least.
New radio
Ok so after flashing the new radio my downlink jumped to 4.07mbps. The uplink was unaffected.
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Ok so after flashing the new radio my downlink jumped to 4.07mbps. The uplink was unaffected.
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Yeah my up seems to be the same.
Not very good.
At my GF's house I test randomly and get about 4 - 5.3 down average, at my house I get aprox 3.5 - 4 average and both places maintain a steady 1.6 up. I've read specs on the phone that states the slide (in perfect conditions I assume) is capable of 7.2 Down...
Whoever is saying that H is european only is a moron. To clarify, when you see an H, you are connected to the "3.25"/"3.5"G network, HSDPA. When it just shows 3G, you are connected to the UTMS (3G) network. Speeds on HSDPA are significantly higher, but not the same speed as the HSDPA+, 3.75G or tmobile's "4G". Our phones do not have hardware capable of HSDPA+, just HSDPA. I get around 2-4 mbps with the radio update on hsdpa. In most areas, it seems that your phone will idle on 3G (UTMS) and when data is being actively sent/received, your phone activated HSDPA, but in some areas I've been, such as washington D.C., the phone will idle on HSDPA at all times, rather than switch between 3G and HSDPA. On some stock roms, namely sense ones, there is no separate icon for HSDPA in the framework, hence why you only see a 3G icon on said roms, but on an aosp based rom like cm6, or cm7, or arayraymod, you will see an H when connected to HSDPA.
As for the specs of the slide, yes, HSDPA is *capable*, theoretically, of that 7mbps, but real life speeds don't get that high. Similarly, hsdpa+ is theoretically capable of some 20 or 40 mbps, I don't fully remember, but real life speeds never get above 8 to 16 or something, again, I don't fully remember.
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It's always nice to see someone come into a thread like this with real information.
MusicMan374 is exactly right. The reason I bought this phone when it came out was that it was using HSDPA and would be faster than straight up 3g. And indeed it is. Like others have mentioned, typical dl speeds are in the 2 to 4 Mbps range for me, but I have gone up over 5 Mbps in some locations. I am in the Philly area and my phone idles on HSDPA (i.e. I haven't seen the "3G" symbol on any CM roms I've tried on this phone).
You can see what network type the phone is using under settings -> about phone. In the CM roms you'll find it under status -> mobile network type. Don't remember if it is in the same location for stock rom, but I remember it is there.
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You can see what network type the phone is using under settings -> about phone. In the CM roms you'll find it under status -> mobile network type. Don't remember if it is in the same location for stock rom, but I remember it is there.
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In stock rom CR Mod actually, on Settings then About Phone then Network. I'm on stock and it says HSDPA and I have the 3G icon, in other Sense roms it always showed the H, but I been always on the same area... @[email protected]
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In stock rom CR Mod actually, on Settings then About Phone then Network. I'm on stock and it says HSDPA and I have the 3G icon, in other Sense roms it always showed the H, but I been always on the same area... @[email protected]
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Yes, the stock espresso rom does not show H when connected to HSDPA, it just shows 3G, but if it says HSDPA in mobile network type, you're on hsdpa. Hsdpa for me greatly increases dl speeds. When HSDPA isn't active, just regular 3g, I get about up to 1 mbps, most of the time under. Almost as bad as edge.
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ok so tonight i looked at my tp2 and i saw it was connected to 3g (no surprise for me) and right next to that it said HSDPA (no H symbol) a few nights ago i saw dl speeds of 900-1.53 and ul of 500-900
heres a screen shot of what it looked like maybe you can post yours 2 hopefully its not a false alarm. im currently in Sacramento CA
if anyone else can confirm this or post screen shots that would be awesome
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u can just change the name of the connection.... nice try..
I would of heard of a network upgrade to HSDPA.. i work at T-Mobile... not sales..
T-Mobile has 3.5G in some major cities. And yes it will register as HSPA. I'm currently connected to HSPA in Chicago. And no, it's not just a name change, or a ROM setting. I can sit here and watch it change from H to 3g to Edge, and when I go to the basement, GPRS.
You obviously don't read all the correct info if you're working for t-mobile...
T-Mobile has plans to upgrade from 7.2 to 21 in 2010, so obviously they want to start testing their towers for coverage and signal.
There was a report on it by Engadget, and probably a couple other tech blogs as well.
where in chicago, im in the loop and have no HSPA just 3g>egde>gprs....
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-7-2mbps-hspa-hath-cometh/
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u can just change the name of the connection.... nice try..
I would of heard of a network upgrade to HSDPA.. i work at T-Mobile... not sales..
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there are many places talking about HSPA just look it up. and i actually didnt think of changing the name but that is what i got.
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T-Mobile has 3.5G in some major cities. And yes it will register as HSPA. I'm currently connected to HSPA in Chicago. And no, it's not just a name change, or a ROM setting. I can sit here and watch it change from H to 3g to Edge, and when I go to the basement, GPRS.
You obviously don't read all the correct info if you're working for t-mobile...
T-Mobile has plans to upgrade from 7.2 to 21 in 2010, so obviously they want to start testing their towers for coverage and signal.
There was a report on it by Engadget, and probably a couple other tech blogs as well.
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and yours actually shows an H? do you have a stock rom? or did you upgrade i would love to see an H on mine. im not fully sure if it is actually HSPA but i know in the advanced networ settings that its set to HSDPA/HSUPA
but i really hope its real
and here are some links talking about tmobile HSPA. also i talked to a rep and alot of them never heard of HSPA they said they dont know things till the last min
links!
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-talks-7-2mbps-speeds/
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-7-2mbps-hspa-hath-cometh/
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/09/18/t.mobile.hspa.plus.now.live/
there are many sites i can post hundreds of links but there not just rolling out HSPA but HSPA+ !!!
3g or H
Ok I am also in Chicagoland and in Aurora I get the H icon on my phone... decent speeds ... But today I drove into the city and my phone displayed the 3g Icon and the speed seemed to be faster... I wish I would have know I would have taken a speed test ... oh well just an FYI ..
EDIT: Before flashing the custom rom ... The T-Mobile Rom displayed 3G ....
agreed
i agree that before i flashed a custom rom my pro 2 showed 3g, now it shows H.
Hey OP what part of Sacramento are you in b/c i live in Sac too and when doing speed tests i have only reached 685kb per second. i have been using a custom rom and it has always displayed H, i have yet to see a 3g icon. even when i was using Android with custom roms i always had H. i just figured it was a rom thing. can you clock your speed and post the results?
it would be nice to get an idea of others speed here in Sac, we were one of the first cities to get 3g and i dont see why we wouldnt get 7.2 soon
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Hey OP what part of Sacramento are you in b/c i live in Sac too and when doing speed tests i have only reached 685kb per second. i have been using a custom rom and it has always displayed H, i have yet to see a 3g icon. even when i was using Android with custom roms i always had H. i just figured it was a rom thing. can you clock your speed and post the results?
it would be nice to get an idea of others speed here in Sac, we were one of the first cities to get 3g and i dont see why we wouldnt get 7.2 soon
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south sac in the greenhaven/pocket area by garcia bend (the park by the river that seperates sac and west sac)
and ill try to get one but last night i have been getting the speeds you have been getting but i teatherd to my laptop a few times and actually gotten those speeds
ill try to get screen shots up later today
This has been talked about a million times. Official ROMs will not show the H symbol. For 1 simple plain reason. No one other than a geek knows what HSPA means. 3G is more market friendly. Also if your custom ROM shows an H it usually refers to HSUPA, which is the upstream TX channel.
By the way, down here in Atlanta, GA with my official ROM I get constant 900Kb/s. I use mobilespeedtest.com
alabij said:
This has been talked about a million times. Official ROMs will not show the H symbol. For 1 simple plain reason. No one other than a geek knows what HSPA means. 3G is more market friendly. Also if your custom ROM shows an H it usually refers to HSUPA, which is the upstream TX channel.
By the way, down here in Atlanta, GA with my official ROM I get constant 900Kb/s. I use mobilespeedtest.com
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i only heard that about AT&T not T-Mobile and i dont trust mobile speed test because alot of people have been getting 3000-7000kbs on 3g NOT WIFI
my speed tests arnt looking so good right now im getting 1.00-1.03 each time it looks like its capped or something because i was getting better
but you can see that other people are getting good results
ill try at another time see if i can get my speeds back
Stock ROM won't show an "H", as it is disabled. However, if you install Advanced Config, you can turn the "H" symbol on, and then your stock ROM will show it.
Speed's vary substantially, with 7.2 being the best you can get, in a clean room environment. However, just like EDGE and 3G you won't ever get the full speed. Thankfully an even higher speed network is being started next year, so really this blip to 7.2 is kinda pointless...Outside of giving T-Mo some time to test out their new towers before turning on the speed...Too bad we will all need new devices to take advantage of it. (IIRC it will be on a different bandwidth then the current iteration of 3G/3.5G[H].)
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Stock ROM won't show an "H", as it is disabled. However, if you install Advanced Config, you can turn the "H" symbol on, and then your stock ROM will show it.
Speed's vary substantially, with 7.2 being the best you can get, in a clean room environment. However, just like EDGE and 3G you won't ever get the full speed. Thankfully an even higher speed network is being started next year, so really this blip to 7.2 is kinda pointless...Outside of giving T-Mo some time to test out their new towers before turning on the speed...Too bad we will all need new devices to take advantage of it. (IIRC it will be on a different band then the current iteration of 3G/3.5G[H].)
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well there going to upgrade to HSPA+ 21mbps but i think your talking about LTE which is 4G but t mobile said that there gunna see how HSPA+ is gunna work b4 upgrading to LTE and they feel no need to upgrade to LTE anyways becuase they said something about there HPSA+ is gunna be faster than any other company because they will have it b4 all the other company's start setting up LTE. LTE would need completely new devices and none are even made yet as far as i know
I heard that HSPA+ would require a new radio, but I could be completely off base there! I sure hope not, I'd love to get the 21Mbit speed with out having to buy a new device!
The TP2 isn't capable of reaching those speeds, but any device can take advantage of these upgrades.
I need more 3G Coverage. NONE at my house despite the map showing that it's covered well beyond my area.
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T-mobile may do the upgrade in the network, but it wont happen with your TP2. Your modem can't do more that 1mbps. And if you see 3G it is not 3.6mbps like the at&t Tilt 2. It is very sloooooow!
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there are many places talking about HSPA just look it up. and i actually didnt think of changing the name but that is what i got.
and yours actually shows an H? do you have a stock rom? or did you upgrade i would love to see an H on mine. im not fully sure if it is actually HSPA but i know in the advanced networ settings that its set to HSDPA/HSUPA
but i really hope its real
and here are some links talking about tmobile HSPA. also i talked to a rep and alot of them never heard of HSPA they said they dont know things till the last min
links!
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-talks-7-2mbps-speeds/
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/t-mobile-7-2mbps-hspa-hath-cometh/
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/09/18/t.mobile.hspa.plus.now.live/
there are many sites i can post hundreds of links but there not just rolling out HSPA but HSPA+ !!!
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im in westchester county, ny.
mine shows H all the time.
no mods.
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T-mobile may do the upgrade in the network, but it wont happen with your TP2. Your modem can't do more that 1mbps. And if you see 3G it is not 3.6mbps like the at&t Tilt 2. It is very sloooooow!
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not true thats the quoted data speeds for the network t-mobiles is 1.2 and att says 3.6. but the tp2 can handle 7.2mbps
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The TP2 isn't capable of reaching those speeds, but any device can take advantage of these upgrades.
I need more 3G Coverage. NONE at my house despite the map showing that it's covered well beyond my area.
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try going to your phone settings and where it says select network type try WCDMA it will lock it to 3g only and u might be able to pick up a signal i had a problem in my house where if i go towards the back it would go to edge but higher signal i have it locked to wcdma. i get lower signal but it says on 3g..
no guarantees but its worth a shot
For the past few days i have been getting a "H" by the bars instead of "3G". Any ideas, I am hoping its not for "Home" and i am loosing 3G
T-Mobile TP2 With Tmo WM 6.5
what carrier and what ROM?
Tmobile, With the new TMO 6.5
Be Happy!
Read the GOOD news.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=16066&news=T-Mobile+3G+HSPA+7.2Mbps+LTE
Yea i know of the upgrade. Dident think it would change the bars.
It's purely cosmetic anyways, I wouldn't worry too much about it. In fact, the setting can be changed in one or more of the tweak utilities. The Tilt 2 has the opposite issue. The stock ROM only shows 3G instead of H.
I'm on AT&T and I get the H all the time. I don't really notice any speed difference though.
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Tmobile, With the new TMO 6.5
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boy that sure would suck if we had to go back to the stock rom to get the"H"
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boy that sure would suck if we had to go back to the stock rom to get the"H"
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well I jusr installed the new radio and I see no difference. I still show "h" sometimes and 3g other times. when I tether and use speedtest.net I still can't get over 1Mbps.
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well I jusr installed the new radio and I see no difference. I still show "h" sometimes and 3g other times. when I tether and use speedtest.net I still can't get over 1Mbps.
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Doesnt the H has nothing to do with the radio rom?? it's just in what area you are where the signal is the strongest.. 3G, Hdspa, or Gprs.. In the stupid little pesantville i live i often get only 'G' for gprs,, i only get 3g in the big cities..
you just have 'H' because theres no strong 3G signal in your area
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Doesnt the H has nothing to do with the radio rom?? it's just in what area you are where the signal is the strongest.. 3G, Hdspa, or Gprs.. In the stupid little pesantville i live i often get only 'G' for gprs,, i only get 3g in the big cities..
you just have 'H' because theres no strong 3G signal in your area
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Being in your shoes I would be happy to see H instead of 3G as it is 3.5G rather than 3G ;-)
H stands for the latest standard HSPA (where HSDPA --> High Speed Download & HSUPA --> HS Upload) while 3G is a generic High Speed network of 3rd generation.
With 3.5G one is getting up to 7.2Mbit per second Download and up to 2.4Mbit per second Upload while with 3G it is well below 1Mbit per second in both cases.
Of course, it is UP TO and depends on particular implementation...
Cheers.
ksmm said:
Being in your shoes I would be happy to see H instead of 3G as it is 3.5G rather than 3G ;-)
H stands for the latest standard HSPA (where HSDPA --> High Speed Download & HSUPA --> HS Upload) while 3G is a generic High Speed network of 3rd generation.
With 3.5G one is getting up to 7.2Mbit per second Download and up to 2.4Mbit per second Upload while with 3G it is well below 1Mbit per second in both cases.
Of course, it is UP TO and depends on particular implementation...
Cheers.
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h
there was an article last week about tmobile upgrading thier network to hspa, theoreticle 7.2Mbps. with the rom that came with my tmo tp2, i never showed the "h", when i went to the energyb rom series, i was often showing an "h" but there was no differance in my speed. it is clear to me that the tmo hspa 7.2 upgrade has not hit here in seattle yet. i just upgraded my radio as i saw that someone in a previous post has the official tmo 6.5 upgrade and he was gettting 4mbps.
i sure do hope that tmo gets this working in seattle soon...
Sorry, this doesn't mean anything usually. If you are running non-stock (aka flashed) then most likely it just is the ROM that changes the 3G to H. I am on ATT and that just is what took place of the 3G icon. It doesn't mean anything else. Now, on stock ROM's it could.
I was just wondering if there was an app that showed when I was actully on HSPA+ or just 3G cause as far as I can tell its either H, E or G. I've yet to see 3G. Id like to be able to see without going to settings, about phone, status. Cause I want to run speed tests on HSPA+.
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I think if you go to phone status. You would be connected under umts which would be 3g or hspa as hspa+ but hspa n umts its technically the same thing. It never shows hspa+ even though I live within the coverage with hspa+
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That would explain why my speed test have been the same on umts and hspad on the status section =( thx mate
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When in a HSPA+ area your phone should show HSDPA under About Phone>Status>Mobile Network Type. The 'H' indicator will show no matter what 3G network you're connected to. I'm assuming T-Mobile did this to avoid confusion between 3G and HSPA+ which is technically still 3G.
Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.
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I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.
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Yes it would. I'd give it a try but I'm clueless on how to make an app =(
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
I have been using Netswidget. It seems to do the job, possibly a little buggy still at times. But it does show edge, umts and hsdpa on it. I even saw gprs the other day for a brief moment out in the sticks. But it seems to work fine for me.
I have mobile signal widget. Changes icon for edge, 3g, and hspa.
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Max download 0.89!
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Mobile Signal Widget for me also
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mobile-signal-widget/com.empirical.widget.signal
Just because you are listed on the coverage map as being in the HSPA+ area the towers might not be actally all set up for the top speeds. I live in Massachusetts in a suburb of Boston where we are on the coverage map as being in HSPA+ area but the next town over is ony getting top speeds of around 950 kbps download. The network has not been stretched out to it's maximum yet, you will be getting your speed probably very soon. It is still very spotty. This has been my findings in the Boston area. One town in HSPA+ will get 750 MBPS download (very fast) and just a short distance away will only get top speeds of only 950 kbps (not bad) It will get better soon.
pateltjp said:
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
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Im also in VA and dont see "4g speeds" but it depends on certain areas just because your in "4g" area doesnt mean your going to see it, like if your inside in a building, or just in a bad coverage area. Ive actually did a speedtest under 2 different cell towers and the most I ever got was 5down. They say the g2 is capable of doing like 14, but I dont think anyone is ever going to get that I would say 10 the most.
In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".
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In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".
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I've not heard of anyone seeing an 'H+' on the phone... *going to read manual*
Anyone know what the "G" means in the connection status area where one normally sees "3G" or "E"? I don't see it often, and when I do it seems to be in areas with weak 3G coverage. However, I know I am not mistaken, it is just "G", no "3G", just "G." Also, I never see the "H" that some report in the connection status area, even though I am in an area where HSDPA+ is active. I know I cannot get HSDPA+ speeds on the Slide, but I consistently get 3-4 Mbps down and 1-2 Mbps up (D.C. metro).
G is for GPRS which is even slower than edge. It's what I live with constantly here in Barbados.
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Haha, thanks bajansurfer! I didn't even think about that. Didn't even think GPRS existed anymore...lol Sorry about your speeds bajansurfer, maybe I am just too spoiled.
No problem, and yes it sucks! Can't wait to get 3G here! hopefully next year
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kmdub said:
Also, I never see the "H" that some report in the connection status area, even though I am in an area where HSDPA+ is active. I know I cannot get HSDPA+ speeds on the Slide, but I consistently get 3-4 Mbps down and 1-2 Mbps up (D.C. metro).
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Youre probably not going to see an H if you have stock, but im surprised you havent figured out that the 3-4 mbps is hspa+ that you are connected with.
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Well, I have figured out that the 3-4 Mbps is HSPA+. What I meant was that I know there is HSPA+ in my area, and it helps overall speed, regardless of whether the phone is capable of it or not. The Slide hardware does not do HSPA+. I still thought the H would show up for HSPA connections whether HSPA+ or not. Guess not though if you are saying stock ROM's won't show it, since that is what I run, completely stock.
Yeah the only two phones capable of HSPA+ are the G2 and the mt4g. 3-4 mbps is HSPA. If you were connected to HSPA+ it would be more around 7-10 mbps, if I remember correctly. The only stock rom I've seen an H in is the G2's, but both the G1 and the G2 have had fairly stock android roms, not heavily modified sense, its kind of the style of those phones.
So is there a "3G" on the SGS3, because I either get full bars and "Edge" or I get "4G"(which is HSPA+) but I never have just plane jane "3G"?.....its starting to bug me because my friend has ATT as well and we will be standing in the same exact place and his iphone will get 3G while my SGS3 will only have edge.....I don't understand why this is? Does the iPhone have different antennas or something? I don't really want to trade my SGS3 in for an ios device, but all the features on the SGS3 become somewhat pointless when I can't really do anything because edge blows ass... So can anyone give me some insight into the matter?
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So is there a "3G" on the SGS3, because I either get full bars and "Edge" or I get "4G"(which is HSPA+) but I never have just plane jane "3G"?.....its starting to bug me because my friend has ATT as well and we will be standing in the same exact place and his iphone will get 3G while my SGS3 will only have edge.....I don't understand why this is? Does the iPhone have different antennas or something? I don't really want to trade my SGS3 in for an ios device, but all the features on the SGS3 become somewhat pointless when I can't really do anything because edge blows ass... So can anyone give me some insight into the matter?
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Have you looked in wireless and settings > mobile networks > Network Mode?
Hsdpa and hsdpa+ are 3g homie. The phone calls it 4G however as a marketing tool. If your on true 4G it will say 4G lte.
Check what user above said. And have you run a side by side speed test?
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Maybe you got a lemon but some of my coworkers have iPhone and in downtown area they get edge and I get 4G lte. I came from an iPhone also and I can tell you sgs3 has better signal everywhere and lte is the reason why.
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I would recomend getting a replacement S3 first to see if you have any improvements. If the phone doesn't use 3G or 4G(HSPA+) at all then that is not normal behavior. I have not once been connected to Edge since i got my phone a month ago.
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Have you looked in wireless and settings > mobile networks > Network Mode?
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corythug said:
Hsdpa and hsdpa+ are 3g homie. The phone calls it 4G however as a marketing tool. If your on true 4G it will say 4G lte.
Check what user above said. And have you run a side by side speed test?
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Maybe you got a lemon but some of my coworkers have iPhone and in downtown area they get edge and I get 4G lte. I came from an iPhone also and I can tell you sgs3 has better signal everywhere and lte is the reason why.
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I don't have any of those network settings you are talking about. There is no wireless and settings? I have More settings and then network modes, but there isn't any selection for like 3G 2G LTE etc....
I ran a side by side speed test, and he got like 1.4MBPS and I couldn't even get the speed test to load, but after trying I did and it was like .3 MBPS...
I understand the LTE signal thing, but there is no LTE here and I don't think its coming anytime soon, I am in the military and currently operating out of Watertown, NY so yea... middle of no where.
I think I might have to try and replace it I suppose..I am within my thirty days, but unfortunately I didin't have time when I purchased it so I bought it at a wireless kiosk and they are a bit more of a pain to deal with when it comes to exchanging phones... Thanks for the input guys.
Not sure what's going on with your device. I'm either on H / 4G / 3G and on my iPhone 4 I was always on 3G. Completely different location/network than you, but it definitely sounds like your device is doing something strange.
Try toggling airplane mode on/off. For some reason, ics trends to drop to edge if you don't have a super strong signal.
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Try toggling airplane mode on/off. For some reason, ics trends to drop to edge if you don't have a super strong signal.
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Actually I have been doing this sometimes, it seems to work sometimes, but not always...
Question : Is there even a "3G" signal icon? Or It always just shows "4g" when you are on 3G and up?
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Actually I have been doing this sometimes, it seems to work sometimes, but not always...
Question : Is there even a "3G" signal icon? Or It always just shows "4g" when you are on 3G and up?
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Yes, there is an a 4G and 3G icon.
Long shot, but if you dial * # * # 4 6 3 6 # * # * in the keypad and choose Phone Info, what do you see under 'Set preferred network type:'?
Default is WCDMA preferred, I believe.
(Also be careful in here and DO NOT click the Update button.)
Dialer code didn't work for me. I had to use an app called Device Info. Under device information:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
But, it doesn't let you change the setting.
don't get an iphone, those things are boring and lame
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So is there a "3G" on the SGS3, because I either get full bars and "Edge" or I get "4G"(which is HSPA+) but I never have just plane jane "3G"?.....its starting to bug me because my friend has ATT as well and we will be standing in the same exact place and his iphone will get 3G while my SGS3 will only have edge.....I don't understand why this is? Does the iPhone have different antennas or something? I don't really want to trade my SGS3 in for an ios device, but all the features on the SGS3 become somewhat pointless when I can't really do anything because edge blows ass... So can anyone give me some insight into the matter?
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It also depends on where you live, the area and the service providers radio towers connection to your device specifically
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Yes, there is an a 4G and 3G icon.
Long shot, but if you dial * # * # 4 6 3 6 # * # * in the keypad and choose Phone Info, what do you see under 'Set preferred network type:'?
Default is WCDMA preferred, I believe.
(Also be careful in here and DO NOT click the Update button.)
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Depends what phone on at&t siii there us No 3g icon. OK there is one in systemui but it us not used. The phone always shows 4g when on 3g umts or hspda or pseudo 4g hspda+. it also shows edge and 4g lte. I am on a micro cell at home which is 3g and it still shows 4g. The way to really check us to go to system then about device then status and see what network mode you are on. Here in the screenshot you can see 4g but also that the phone is using hspda which is normally 3g in any other phone
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Depends what phone on at&t siii there us No 3g icon. OK there is one in systemui but it us not used. The phone always shows 4g when on 3g umts or hspda or pseudo 4g hspda+. it also shows edge and 4g lte. I am on a micro cell at home which is 3g and it still shows 4g. The way to really check us to go to system then about device then status and see what network mode you are on. Here in the screenshot you can see 4g but also that the phone is using hspda which is normally 3g in any other phone
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Interesting, thank you for your time and input
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If you are on "normal" 3G it will show umts instead of hsdpa.
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Just to be sure... your friend has an AT&T iPhone correct?
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If you use an AOSP from such as cyanogenmod 9, it will show 3g, 4g (LTE), h, g, and e.