Anyone know what the "G" means in the connection status area where one normally sees "3G" or "E"? I don't see it often, and when I do it seems to be in areas with weak 3G coverage. However, I know I am not mistaken, it is just "G", no "3G", just "G." Also, I never see the "H" that some report in the connection status area, even though I am in an area where HSDPA+ is active. I know I cannot get HSDPA+ speeds on the Slide, but I consistently get 3-4 Mbps down and 1-2 Mbps up (D.C. metro).
G is for GPRS which is even slower than edge. It's what I live with constantly here in Barbados.
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Haha, thanks bajansurfer! I didn't even think about that. Didn't even think GPRS existed anymore...lol Sorry about your speeds bajansurfer, maybe I am just too spoiled.
No problem, and yes it sucks! Can't wait to get 3G here! hopefully next year
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kmdub said:
Also, I never see the "H" that some report in the connection status area, even though I am in an area where HSDPA+ is active. I know I cannot get HSDPA+ speeds on the Slide, but I consistently get 3-4 Mbps down and 1-2 Mbps up (D.C. metro).
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Youre probably not going to see an H if you have stock, but im surprised you havent figured out that the 3-4 mbps is hspa+ that you are connected with.
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Well, I have figured out that the 3-4 Mbps is HSPA+. What I meant was that I know there is HSPA+ in my area, and it helps overall speed, regardless of whether the phone is capable of it or not. The Slide hardware does not do HSPA+. I still thought the H would show up for HSPA connections whether HSPA+ or not. Guess not though if you are saying stock ROM's won't show it, since that is what I run, completely stock.
Yeah the only two phones capable of HSPA+ are the G2 and the mt4g. 3-4 mbps is HSPA. If you were connected to HSPA+ it would be more around 7-10 mbps, if I remember correctly. The only stock rom I've seen an H in is the G2's, but both the G1 and the G2 have had fairly stock android roms, not heavily modified sense, its kind of the style of those phones.
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I was just wondering if there was an app that showed when I was actully on HSPA+ or just 3G cause as far as I can tell its either H, E or G. I've yet to see 3G. Id like to be able to see without going to settings, about phone, status. Cause I want to run speed tests on HSPA+.
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I think if you go to phone status. You would be connected under umts which would be 3g or hspa as hspa+ but hspa n umts its technically the same thing. It never shows hspa+ even though I live within the coverage with hspa+
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That would explain why my speed test have been the same on umts and hspad on the status section =( thx mate
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When in a HSPA+ area your phone should show HSDPA under About Phone>Status>Mobile Network Type. The 'H' indicator will show no matter what 3G network you're connected to. I'm assuming T-Mobile did this to avoid confusion between 3G and HSPA+ which is technically still 3G.
Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
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Snuggl3s said:
Yea I know I was just looking for like a widget that told me constantly so I know when I can speed test
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
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I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.
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I was just going to post this. Would be a great widget to have.
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Yes it would. I'd give it a try but I'm clueless on how to make an app =(
fRom Snugs G2 ^.^
I have been using Netswidget. It seems to do the job, possibly a little buggy still at times. But it does show edge, umts and hsdpa on it. I even saw gprs the other day for a brief moment out in the sticks. But it seems to work fine for me.
I have mobile signal widget. Changes icon for edge, 3g, and hspa.
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Max download 0.89!
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Mobile Signal Widget for me also
http://www.appbrain.com/app/mobile-signal-widget/com.empirical.widget.signal
Just because you are listed on the coverage map as being in the HSPA+ area the towers might not be actally all set up for the top speeds. I live in Massachusetts in a suburb of Boston where we are on the coverage map as being in HSPA+ area but the next town over is ony getting top speeds of around 950 kbps download. The network has not been stretched out to it's maximum yet, you will be getting your speed probably very soon. It is still very spotty. This has been my findings in the Boston area. One town in HSPA+ will get 750 MBPS download (very fast) and just a short distance away will only get top speeds of only 950 kbps (not bad) It will get better soon.
pateltjp said:
Hello,
I am new to Android - do I have to turn on something to get higher speeds?
I consitently get 0.89 no matter where I am.
In fact, our region is listed as 4G speeds on TMobile website... McLean VA.
I am thinking a bad phone, maybe? Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
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Im also in VA and dont see "4g speeds" but it depends on certain areas just because your in "4g" area doesnt mean your going to see it, like if your inside in a building, or just in a bad coverage area. Ive actually did a speedtest under 2 different cell towers and the most I ever got was 5down. They say the g2 is capable of doing like 14, but I dont think anyone is ever going to get that I would say 10 the most.
In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".
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In the phone manual it shows the different types of networks the phone would show. This G, E, H, and H+. It wont show 3g because H is the same as 3g and H+ is "4g".
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I've not heard of anyone seeing an 'H+' on the phone... *going to read manual*
In the process of switching from the Hero on Sprint to the G2 on TMobile. Grabbed a G2 last week during the free deal.
I'm in what the tmobile coverage map calls the "faster" area, but not hspa+. Running the speedtest app, I'm lucky to get over 500kbps download and 700kbps up.
Phone shows "H" on the status bar and full bars. I've tried several area's around town with similar results.
Is this just normal TMobile data speeds? Just seems very slow compared to my Hero.
I'm in the "fastest" area and my 3G DL speed with G2 today was 57kbps. At first I thought there was something wrong or something I'm not doing right but at least for the last 24 hours it has been this way. Even AT&T's EDGE connection can mark the same speed.
I don't know about the other areas but at least in my area TMO's so-called "4G" is a joke.
Make sure you guys dont have the "use only 2g networks" checked off under the Menu/Settings/Wireless&Networks/MobileNetworks options.
No, that is not the case. Thanks though!
Try tellin tmobile check ur apn and do a factory reset
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Only 850 kbps DL?
Ok, I'm a newbie and it's possible I'm missing something obvious. But I see that most everyone on here, 3G or HSPA+, is getting 5Mbps or better on their Speedtest.net tests.
I can't even get 1Mbps (8 tests over a half hour: Lowest DL = 701 kbps, highest DL = 916.) Uploads are 550 to 650.
I've also noted - and maybe this is relevent - that everyone's speedtest looks different than mine. I'm using the Speedtest.net Android Application DL'd from market. Mine is a round stopwatch looking dial, all the screenshots I see posted on here are square boxes. This is curious to me, but doubtfully the problem.
My phone is a U.S. G2, rooted and flashed CyanogenMod 6.1.1 and overclocked to 1305 MHz. No other mods - the thing was stock and being turned on for the first time Wednesday (and still would be if it weren't for this forum! Thanks!)
What could be the trouble?
Thanks in advance
Reid
From my experience, if its showing the "3G" icon, you have no data connection. I mean, you won't get any throughput over 3G. Only hspa+, hsdpa, or edge.
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ibemad1 said:
From my experience, if its showing the "3G" icon, you have no data connection. I mean, you won't get any throughput over 3G. Only hspa+, hsdpa, or edge.
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G2's don't show "3G"...
dietotherhythm said:
G2's don't show "3G"...
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Yes they do
EDIT: >.< /facepalm I'm a jackass. I completely spaced that I was running CM. Its just been habit since I've been running it so long. Sorry for the douchebaggery on my behalf.
And as for OP:
Go to a bigger city. I live in Colorado Springs, CO and my 4G is kinda crap. Especially in my apartment. But when I go to a larger city like Denver, I notice speeds almost double what I get at home. So it could all just be your location.
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Yes they do
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No, they don't. The G2 ROM is altered by T-mobile to show an 'H' symbol anytime you're on something higher than EDGE - that means UMTS, HSPA, HSDPA, HSPA+, etc all show an 'H' (even though only HSPA+ is really considered 4G). Cyanogen ROMs and the Sense ROMs actually show a 3G when you're on 3G and an 'H' when you're on HSPA+.
I've actually seen the 3g symbol a couple of times on my G2. So yeah it does. Might only be on a specific rom though. I have only seen it while running a cm7 nightly build.
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wayde187 said:
I've actually seen the 3g symbol a couple of times on my G2. So yeah it does. Might only be on a specific rom though. I have only seen it while running a cm7 nightly build.
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Correct - as I said, Cyanogen and Sense ROMs show the 3G. The stock G2 ROM does not - T-Mobile altered it so that it jumps straight from E to H.
I just saw it again. I would like it to pop up when I am in a 3g area and when I'm not getting h+ but it seems to only hang around for a little bit.
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I have used CM 6.1 and currently using GV 1.5 and both show 3G and H symbols.
Reception is weak in my office at work. On my previous phone, Motorola Defy, I noticed my data would go back and forth between 'H' and '3G'.
With my GS2, data is stuck on 4G. I have watched it for hours now and even though I have no bars it does not change. Am I missing something? Is my device defective?
I appreciate your help with this.
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There might not be a 3G (icon) for the phone which is why it stays on 4G rather than drop to 3G.
At least that is the case with my G2X, it is either 4G or 2G but never 3G.
Not sure why, but that's how they made it.
Have you done a speed test to see if you are on 4G or not?
This phone also might have better connectivity to the network.
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I can at least confirm there is an E for edge Found out today at my apartment in Boston (normally I have 4G with great speeds in Boston, but I guess the bathroom doesn't get good reception)
Thanks for the replies. Yes I ran 4 speed tests this morning in 4G and my max was 1490 Mbps so I think it's working well.
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There actually is a 3g icon. It is only displayed for Umts networks. The reason it was done that way is because there is no way to differentiate hspa from hspa+. Two network technologies for 3g were in use anyways and so it was easier to display all hspa and hspa+ networks as 4g and all umts as 3g.
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Edit due to phone auto correct fail.
Can someone let me know why my phone never shows 3g? Either it is showing 'E' or 4G. My nexus used to show 3G.
I am under the assumption that this sgh-t989 can connect to all those networks t-mobile has....
Thanks
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It might be because of the fact that everything being advertised now as '4G' is technically '3G.
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It might be because of the fact that everything being advertised now as '4G' is technically '3G.
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Thats not true anymore.. the T-Mobile 4G network has been officially recognized as 4G along with WiMax and LTE. Happened a few months ago.
The reason your only seeing either E or 4G is because those are the networks you are near. And many people believe that T-Mo sets the software to show 4G in the 3G area to "lie".. personally depending where i am, I see 3G or 4G we dont have any edge left in my area any longer..
Either way does it really matter? I mean as long as you have a solid connection..
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...The reason your only seeing either E or 4G is because those are the networks you are near...
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My friend's Nexus S shows 3G or H -depending on which tower it connects to? I don't know but it does show them at different times. we are still living in the same area. So, I am not so sure that they might have "phased out" the 3G. Confusing..
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Either way does it really matter? I mean as long as you have a solid connection..
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Suppose it doesn't matter but, I'd rather get 4G > 3G > E, and in that order. As you know, 3G is definitely faster than E and not all markets/areas have been upgraded to 4G...
T-Mobiles "4G" is a boosted UMTS (3G) band per say which is HSDPA. As long as the market you live in supports HSPDA you will see a "4G". If not then you will see a "3G". If none of those you will see "E" for EDGE or "G" for GSM. To say that T-Mobile's "4G" is actually 4G is ridiculous.
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T-Mobiles "4G" is a boosted UMTS (3G) band per say which is HSDPA. As long as the market you live in supports HSPDA you will see a "4G". If not then you will see a "3G". If none of those you will see "E" for EDGE or "G" for GSM. To say that T-Mobile's "4G" is actually 4G is ridiculous.
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But T-Mobile's 4G is really fast. Lets not start bad mouthing here.
I get on average 18-20mbps on T-Mobiles "4G" here in South Florida. These speeds are absolutely horrible! Youtube videos are fully cached in seconds and i don't even get the buffering icon so I can sneeze or make sure my car is even being driven in the right direction! Someone should report them to the BBB!
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iLeopard said:
T-Mobiles "4G" is a boosted UMTS (3G) band per say which is HSDPA. As long as the market you live in supports HSPDA you will see a "4G". If not then you will see a "3G". If none of those you will see "E" for EDGE or "G" for GSM. To say that T-Mobile's "4G" is actually 4G is ridiculous.
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Then call it ridiculous because as of the end of last year the hspa + network was accepted as 4G. As well as wimax and LTE. Since previous non of these where "real " 4G.. 100mbps.
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tester420 said:
Can someone let me know why my phone never shows 3g? Either it is showing 'E' or 4G. My nexus used to show 3G.
I am under the assumption that this sgh-t989 can connect to all those networks t-mobile has....
Thanks
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Basically, if you live in an area with mixed coverage where there are 3g bands in addition to hspa plus (a form of 4g), you will see a mixture between 3g and 4g. However, in most areas the 3g bands have been upgraded to support 4g so the 4g > 3g > edge map has the 4g and 3g combined into 4g so you're not losing out on 3g time but rather are gaining 4g time.
Another explanation involves TMobile showing all 3g as 4g regardless of whether it is actually hspa plus or not. This would explain your friend's nexus s coverage changing. Personally, I only see a difference between 3g and 4g on specific roms which would indicate that TMobile does code their roms to label everything above edge as 4g.
Side note: H is the same as 4g as far as we are concerned. H means hspa plus whereas 4g if the more broad category that also includes lte and Wimax. It's like calling my car a ford fusion versus just a Ford. Neither is wrong.
Bottom line: you are not losing out on 3g coverage. At best, you are getting 4g in place of the 3g even when you should be getting 3g. At worst, you are getting both 4g and 3g but your phone is always telling you that you're on 4g
every time i browse the net on my Note 2 I'm getting "H+" on the status bar in my area while at the same time whenever i call someone i get 3G at the same place, so what is the difference between them? which is better? sorry if it is a noob quastion
H+ is for HSDPA+, which delivers much higher speeds than normal 3G. Technically it is an upgraded 3G network. so if you have H+ then your network is faster than if you get only 3G. and H+ is used only for data download. so you will not see it in normal voice calls.
Based on your network, Note II can handle H+ speeds up to 42Mbps. 3G is only 384kbps.
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H+ is for HSDPA+, which delivers much higher speeds than normal 3G. Technically it is an upgraded 3G network. so if you have H+ then your network is faster than if you get only 3G. and H+ is used only for data download. so you will not see it in normal voice calls.
Based on your network, Note II can handle H+ speeds up to 42Mbps. 3G is only 384kbps.
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thanks alot man for the explanation i thought it is something weaker than 3g, i appreciate your answer :good:
Here for the diff speeds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639115
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Capable of 42Mbps!? I can't imagine anyone ever gets anywhere near that. I only get 35Mbps on my home computer with cable internet.
With H+ in my area, I generally get somewhere around 3Mbps maybe a little higher.
What is the max speed of LTE supposed to be?
Now that I know my phone is capable of 42Mbps (which is faster then my home connection), I really have no problem with not having an LTE phone. Especially since the max speed is probably as probable as seeing a unicorn.
Not to put a damper on it, but H+ doesnt mean DCHSPA as my N7100 shows that symbol and its not DCHSPA capable.
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Not to put a damper on it, but H+ doesnt mean DCHSPA as my N7100 shows that symbol and its not DCHSPA capable.
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That's because H+ means HSPA+. Unless that's what DCHSPA is, but I've never heard it called that before. Even then, are you sure about that? HSPA+ is listed in the specs for this phone.
HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
H+ is faster than 3g without a doubt
DCHSDPA is known as dual channel ie three uk are dishing it out but us n7100 owners nothing to get excited over its not supported..
Mainly only lte models have dchsdpa only a couple of non lte devices have it
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HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
H+ is faster than 3g without a doubt
DCHSDPA is known as dual channel ie three uk are dishing it out but us n7100 owners nothing to get excited over its not supported..
Mainly only lte models have dchsdpa only a couple of non lte devices have it
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Well, that sort of clears it up. (Although I don't fully get it, I sorta do) Not like it really matters though. No one is going to get anywhere close to what those technologies are capable of anyways. If they ever do, we will probably all be on our next device anyways(probably more like a few devices down the road).