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[Video] How to perm root your g2

Thanx to blackprince310 that posted a tutorial video on youtube on how to perm root your g2..so now there's a video for all of us.. Subscribe to his youtube channel.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU9zn_BEth4
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I spent a whole day learning ADB before I felt comfortable enough to go through and root my G2 lol. Wish I had seen this vid would have been a great help but I can send it to my friends who haven't taken the plunge yet.
Thanks for the heads up.

Xionas said:
I spent a whole day learning ADB before I felt comfortable enough to go through and root my G2 lol. Wish I had seen this vid would have been a great help but I can send it to my friends who haven't taken the plunge yet.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Dude that was time well spent.
ADB is essential to android all together, there may be one click root options and other quick fix packages but if your seriouse with android you need to know ADB.

+1 for adb knowledge.
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Yeah adb is very usefull. Spending time to learn the commands will help you greatly in the future and also save you a lot of time.
[G2/HTC Vision]

aad4321 said:
Thank you for the video, i followed it what i thought was exactly. everything seemed to work fine, rebooted into recovery, it did say s-off but ever app i open says that the phones not rooted. any ideas?
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aad4321 said:
aparently this is happening to several people. hope its an easy fix...
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YAY I FIXED IT. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID.
1. reboot
2. Open and run visionary (with set system r/w after root) checked.
3. After root is complete, click root again (should say already rooted)
4. Open Terminal and sype "su" then enter
5. Type "sync" and wait about a min
6. POWER OFF THE PHONE the right way by holding down the power.
7. After reboot it should work! YAY!!
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I fixed it as well but I did differently.. maybe it will help those still having trouble.. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID.
1) The first problem I had was I had Visionary 11 AND 12 (+plus) installed and both were set to root on boot. This was just a left over quirk from after doing the perm root since I just assumed it had to be set to root on boot, and after installing Vis12 I forgot to uninstall Vis11. Apparently Vis12 doesn't overwrite Vis11 so having both apps root on boot was a bad thing.
2) So I deleted both visionary apps (When they tried to root on boot I backed out of them and just uninstalled them)
3) Then I rebooted and was still not permrooted (although S was off)!
4) Sooo I reinstalled Visionary 12(+Plus)... and checked root on boot AND the r/w partition setting. Then rebooted..
5) With the lone visionary now installed and working solo it rebooted and ran on root and I was rooted..
So now i"m like, ok.. it rooted with visionary, but I don't want visionary in order to root...
6) So I uninstalled visionary 12 (for the second time) and rebooted and now the root stuck.
I think that visionary 12 needs to run after the first reboot with those two settings checked... run on boot and the partition setting. After that happens once I think it makes the root stick.. or at least it did for me.

I had same issue with S-off but no root. I did the manual method and got S-off but root never stuck. I tried the manual method again and again but when I rebooted the apps would say root access could not be gained. What ended up working was I went into Visionary 12 and pushed the temp root button. Once I had temp root I then pushed the perm root button. It did it's thing and rebooted. Once it rebooted I had root that stuck. Don't know if this will help anyone having this issue but it was the only thing that worked for me. As a side note, it was like seeing an old childhood friend when I flashed Cyanogens bacon bits.

How are you guys downloading visionary, now that its been pulled from the market?

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How are you guys downloading visionary, now that its been pulled from the market?
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Download here.
visonary r13 is here. [post #133]

apollostees said:
Dude that was time well spent.
ADB is essential to android all together, there may be one click root options and other quick fix packages but if your seriouse with android you need to know ADB.
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Yea gotta say I don't regret a single minute of searching reading and learning. I just wish I could have had the root and THEN learned how to use ADB simply because I'm an impatient chump at times. Learning how to use it seemed to open up my eyes to things though now I have a better grasp on everything I found confusing when I first came back to browsing the Android forums.

thanks this video was great worked perfect

shibby80 said:
thanks this video was great worked perfect
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shibby, what version of visionary are you using? i cant download r11.

I downloaded r13..followed the video did exactly what he said..it did not work but I simply went back into visionary temp rooted my phone than I pressed perm root and it worked..r13 gives you diffr choices..it has a button for temp or perm rooting..now to download bacon bits and overclock
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elbarto7 said:
shibby, what version of visionary are you using? i cant download r11.
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i used r11 i believe you have to download on your pc then transfer to your phone it wouldn't work when i downloaded it with the phone

Thanks.
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elbarto7 said:
Thanks.
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i sent you a pm

I am just curious: if I do this perm root with S-OFF, but keep the stock ROM for the time being, will that prevent potential future OTA's from T-Mobile, potential upgrades to next versions of Android?
Now, I understand that all those "updates" will also be available via these forums but I'm just a tad concerned that all the custom ROM's might have bugs that would prevent everyday features...
I appreciate stuff like overclocking and tethering/hotspot hacks, but I'm more of a "set it and forget it" kinda guy - most likely I won't have time to constantly test new ROM's and report bugs, wait for fixes, etc.
Just wondering if you have any suggestions?
P.S. Although I am not VERY technical with Android I was able to follow instructions around here to reflash stock ROM, but I was in the "emergency" mode - it was "do it or die" situation made me pretty nervous and I hope not to have to do that constantly

I did everything in the video...and I have s-off and the superuser app every reboot...but root won't stick....and yeah..I've tried temp and perm root with visionary r12 and 13....should I start all over again?

Get r13...it gives you an option to temp root or perm root..click on temp root first than click on perm root..let see if that works
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android602 said:
Get r13...it gives you an option to temp root or perm root..click on temp root first than click on perm root..let see if that works
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i've tried that with all versions ..even with r14 which was just released...i dont wanna flash clockworld recovery because thats making some phones stuck at the htc screen

Quick new questions!

Hello! I just got my G2, and I am totally new to this scene. I'm following black prince's video guide on how to root, but when I try to temp root my phone, it tells me I need to enable usb debugging..
Now, I searched all over my phone, google, and the forum but I couldn't find anything besides USB tethering, which didn't work..If anyone can help me, I'd be greatful
also: Once I root my phone, how do I go about putting a custom rom on there/ bacon bits (if anyone can enlighten me what that is)
I looked at guides, but they're confusing talking about pushing and some other stuff that I am not familiar with. Thanks!!

To be honest if you can't find a rather simple checkbox in your phone you really don't need to root
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But who am I to judge? To find usb debugging go to settings--> applications-->development and there you go click the checkmark.
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I feel dumb as hell, thats the last place I expected that to be in. Sorry, and thank you!

Thank you so much, now my device is rooted because it has that s-off as the video said.
Now, what would somebody recommend/ how do I go about doing this the simple way?

Im confused. Are you saying you need to get s-off or do you already have it?
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Well you must first ask yourself. What do i want root for? Search the market for "root" thats a good start to give you an idea of some of the things you can do with root. Now you will want to read through the various roms you can flash if you want. Some have the sense ui if thats your flavor or you can go with a vanilla rom or cm6 for a vanilla plus feel. But really just read everything
In the forum and find something that sounds interesting and fun.
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Well, I got S-off, so now I believe I'm good to flash roms.
I want something that will either save me battery (such as taking off the stock apps that came with), or some neat rom. Any suggestions?

So I installed Rom manager, and I tried to install Clockwork Mod that it requires you to install but I get the following error
"An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!"
And when I first open up Rom Manager, it says
"You must root your phone for ROM Manager to Function. Superuser was not found at /system/bin/su or system/xbin/su. "
But I rooted my phone, and my S is off...?

Go into terminal an type su.. it should say permissions granted
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kingbrooks1984 said:
Go into terminal an type su.. it should say permissions granted
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having the same issue flashing thru recovery
same with me and im s-off -- rooted -- but terminal states "permission denied" after typing "su"

kuntri said:
having the same issue flashing thru recovery
same with me and im s-off -- rooted -- but terminal states "permission denied" after typing "su"
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I'm no expert on G2's and I don't even have mine yet but I have been reading about root on the G2 for the past week but are you rooted with GFree? The VISIONary method is old, the new method is with Rage and GFree, the VISIONary method is about 90% real, its not TRUE S-OFF. And when you say terminal, do you mean the emulated terminal? If so, maybe you accidentally have the superuser app to deny root access to the terminal app. Look at your super user app and see if it is in the denied list. And if you did root with the old VISIONary method, re-root with Rage and GFree. I can do my best to help you get a proper S-OFF if you would like.

kuntri said:
having the same issue flashing thru recovery
same with me and im s-off -- rooted -- but terminal states "permission denied" after typing "su"
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Is there a pause before it says that ? Because the first time you do "su" a window will pop up on your phone screen from the Superuser app, and you have to authorise Superuser to let "su" have root permissions. If the phone screen is off you might not notice this, then it will fail to get the necessary permission.

[Q] PLEASE HELP Visionary Perm root

i used visionary to temp root my device, then i clicked on the perm root option just to say what happened then my phone froze i started touching the screen and a menu popped up and i clicked an option on accident. the option on the left. then my phone shut off and is froze on the htc boot screen. i pulled the battery and the same thing happened. i tried a factory data reset and the phone is still frozen on the boot screen. please help T-Mo G2, 2.2, no roms

I really do not know why the visionary guides are allowed on these forums. I find it GROSSLY irresponsible of the mods. It has been proven TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME again that visionary bricks phone. For god sakes there is a sticky at the top of the forum saying DON'T USE VISIONARY FOR PERM ROOT. Your phone might be screwed. And its really not your fault. Those threads need closed. Period. Seriously mods, how many phones do you want ruined before you rid the forum of the visionary crap. The gfree method among MANY other alternatives works and DOESN'T BRICK PHONES. WHY LET THIS CRAP STAY FOR PEOPLE LIKE THIS WHO SEE IT AS AN EASY METHOD AND JUMP AT IT UGH.
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if you'd done some research (not picking on you, just for future reference), you'd have found many a testimony that visionary should not be used on the vision--oh, the irony--to obtain permanent root. visionary temp root is fine, but its perm root is dangerous to our phones.
are you able to boot into recovery? do you have a custom recovery (ie clockworkmod) installed? do you have the engineering hboot installed?

Visionary's Perm root will basically brick your phone... sorry

i can boot into recovery but i dont have cyanogen or any roms or anything installed i just rooted my phone

will htc help me?

AroundTheWorld said:
Visionary's Perm root will basically brick your phone... sorry
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Not always but a lot of people it does.
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paulwoods1114 said:
will htc help me?
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Don't tell them that you tried to root your phone, just tell them it did it on it's own.
sure, they'll probably find out once they've got it, but by then they'll probably just fix it. htc sometimes fixes rooted phones if the they belive the problem was something else.
for example (this has actually happened):
lets say your phones screen stopped working, but it was rooted. the root has nothing to do with the screen, so they'll fix it, but when the phone was returned to the customer it was no longer rooted.

Is sending my phone to HTC my only option because i can still boot into to recovery and get into the bootloader and all that. i just want to know that HTC is my last resort

If your bootloader says S-ON, and your recovery is not CWM then you're good to go.

Visionary works for exactly what it is supposed to do. Temp root. Then you can achieve perm root with the various methods depending on your build #. It perm roots on earlier phones - so I hear, as well. The OP hit the perm root button without s-off. Easier to find warnings about that could be instructive, but the mods can't take the visionary instructionals off the forum. ABD is not exactly a friend to the G2. There are a number of things the OP can try. If they really release the update - that should do it. Thread-rom manager,rom backup, and red exclamation point. Etc.
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My bootloader says S-ON

My bootloader says S-ON

paulwoods1114 said:
My bootloader says S-ON
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yea warranty will cover it... just dont mention root or anyting.... it did it by itself you hear me (personal experience.... one of the first to brick using visionary....)

Visionary works for exactly what it is supposed to do. Temp root. Then you can achieve perm root with the various methods depending on your build #. It perm roots on earlier phones - so I hear, as well. The OP hit the perm root button without s-off. Easier to find warnings about that could be instructive, but the mods can't take the visionary instructionals off the forum. ABD is not exactly a friend to the G2. There are a number of things the OP can try. If they really release the update - that should do it. Thread-rom manager,rom backup, and red exclamation point. Etc.
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Actually they can take them off the forums, and even if that was true, they can close the threads and let them fall into oblivion. They do all of xda a gigantic disservice by being so irresponsible and letting that junk linger so noobs can brick there phone within the freaking day of buying it. Its outrageous and I'm not gonna listen to any other arguement.
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+1
There's a perfectly good guide on XDA Wiki for permrooting the G2, and other sub forums on XDA for each device to root. There's no need for Visionary at this point. There will always be alternative ways to root phones.

Well,
I was using the word "can't" for emphasis. I suppose in some ways "don't" would have been more accurate. Let me try again. Feel free not to listen. I will always be grateful to Modaco. Here's why: I had a G1 (gf has it now -running froyo at the moment), TouchPro 2 (my Dad is using it now - so not that modified, but it was); I finally get a G2 and I can't do anything with it. I sat there for 24 hours trying to root it before I called 1 of the 2 guys in Austin on Craigslist offering flashing/rooting/unlocking services. Sat with him for 12 hours. On the plus side he did show me how to set up ABD. On the other hand lot of time with an irate stranger who won't even take the money he is so upset with himself.
Finally figured out if you use the root no abd required method twice (on everything but the G2s with Gingerbread) you can sneak by barely and downgrade etc. Visionary provided the temp root.
I wasn't lucky enough to get a G2 on the first day. I was in the same boat as the folks with Gingerbread. Thought I had waited too long. My parting words from the professional flashers place. But Visionary and the automated scripts for Gfree saved me. Should the perm root button contain a warning that you need s-off first? Sure. But developers have little incentive to update when criticism is so harsh. I have a feeling every root method is indebted to Visionary. If I had a "ginger" G2 I would be praying they were working on a fix.
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Removed root and now I can't re-add it

I removed root from my device because I needed to take it to the sprint store. I could not get the toolkit to remove root I saw a option under SU to remove root and uninstall. Removing root via SU worked but now I can't re-add it. I've tried using the toolkit and I've tried CF auto root.
Apparently I screwed something up. Phone boots up and works just fine, just no root despite both methods claiming success.

Why not download a pre rooted rom?
Wipe all, and install the pre rooted rom in recovery

trim81 said:
Why not download a pre rooted rom?
Wipe all, and install the pre rooted rom in recovery
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Was hoping I could back up my data on a few games first. Is it possible to do that not rooted? And yes, I tried the root kit and it didn't let me access the game files.
Edit: Found the tool that allows me to back up my data. Now I have to get things set up so I can run it. Needed to do this anyway for programming.

Why unroot to take it to sprint? No one has ever cared at my store.
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epicnoob66 said:
Why unroot to take it to sprint? No one has ever cared at my store.
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They refused to even touch mines rooted. Another store a little farther from me didn't care but I had already removed it.
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The backup didn't work for our device. Any other root methods?
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Do you have stock recovery? How did you remove root
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SuperSU let me do it by uninstalling it. It was the only way I knew how since the remove root tool didn't work.

So you should be able to install su from the market. Maybe I'm not understanding
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You are understanding. That is how I thought it would work but when I reinstalled it told me it couldn't get root. I am unsure how but later on when I was trying to do a adb back up my device rooted itself. I'm thinking I'm going to take it back to stock and start over. Something strange happened with the way I removed root and it might give me problems in the future.
Though right now my device is working like it is suppose to. I just don't understand how it found root again. I swear I rebooted multiple times when I was trouble shooting it.
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I play hardball at my store, if it shows modified or is rooted I wont touch it. Only because we get audited like a ***** and I've been charged back on by sprint for the simplest of **** and thats the majority of my bonus if I even manage enough profit to get one. Some stores can get away with it but normally I just take the customer aside and tell them to go home and unroot / triangle away and I'll do the exchange.

Darkendvoid88 said:
I play hardball at my store, if it shows modified or is rooted I wont touch it. Only because we get audited like a ***** and I've been charged back on by sprint for the simplest of **** and thats the majority of my bonus if I even manage enough profit to get one. Some stores can get away with it but normally I just take the customer aside and tell them to go home and unroot / triangle away and I'll do the exchange.
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Yea, that is what he did for me too. Said he couldn't get caught touching it. Rules are rules. I asked them about last year and they didn't care so I didn't even think to unroot it first since I was running on a stock rom with root.
Next time I will make sure to go to the store completely stock. Safer for me and the employee that wants to help me.

Silent25r said:
Yea, that is what he did for me too. Said he couldn't get caught touching it. Rules are rules. I asked them about last year and they didn't care so I didn't even think to unroot it first since I was running on a stock rom with root.
Next time I will make sure to go to the store completely stock. Safer for me and the employee that wants to help me.
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Glad you were able to get everything worked out and root again though :good: sprint can be bad at times

Yeah I played it safe and went back to stock going back to the store to get some things sorted out.. . I went before checking out a phone for my girlfriend and the lady spotted my screen and said "We won't touch your device if it's rooted".. I just gave her the evil look
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss

You will not be able to reroot without root, because you will not be able to set perms needed on the su binary.
To reroot, just do what you did to root it. Use Odin to flash the rooted recovery.img from Chainfire's CF Auto Root thread and boom, you're golden.
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Rooting when rooted?

I rooted my T-Mo Galaxy S4 with Oden through my PC, downloaded the root checker app, and it says I'm rooted. If for any reasons I have doubts of it truely being rootes (as in I did everything correctly), can I reroot it with no problems, cautions, and/or unexpexted possible variables? Or should I unroot then root again? I appreciate anyone taking the time to read and answer my question. Thank you.
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Don't become a victim of root - paranoia, just do all that "rooted " stuff like getting rid of your bloatware and installing custom roms and don't worry about re-rooting. Life is too short.
Pp.

3-KlickS said:
I rooted my T-Mo Galaxy S4 with Oden through my PC, downloaded the root checker app, and it says I'm rooted. If for any reasons I have doubts of it truely being rootes (as in I did everything correctly), can I reroot it with no problems, cautions, and/or unexpexted possible variables? Or should I unroot then root again? I appreciate anyone taking the time to read and answer my question. Thank you.
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This can't be serious....

3-KlickS said:
I rooted my T-Mo Galaxy S4 with Oden through my PC, downloaded the root checker app, and it says I'm rooted. If for any reasons I have doubts of it truely being rootes (as in I did everything correctly), can I reroot it with no problems, cautions, and/or unexpexted possible variables? Or should I unroot then root again? I appreciate anyone taking the time to read and answer my question. Thank you.
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You can root as many times as you'd like. All rooting does is copy a file into a protected part of the ROM - usually SuperSU.
However, if Root Checker is saying you are rooted, you are.
You can also open SuperSU, and look at the settings and see what it says. Or, if you open an app that requests root access, you should get a notification, where you can give root to that app, or deny it. And, if you already have given it access, you will get a popup showing when SuperSU give the root access to that app. If you haven't already done so, the important root apps to get are file explorers. I like ESFileExplorer available in the Play Store. However, since you seem to be a newbie READ, READ, READ before you start deleting, changing anything with your phone.
Rob