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First CTIA announcement was delayed, then later an announcement without carriers or release dates. Two weeks later and till no US carrier release information. Seems odd considering the other recent "super phone" announcements came with carrier information, release dates, and pricing. Also the usual parties have not received production review units which I'd expect by now.
Even announcing puts the brakes on product purchases of competing models. Look how many people withheld purchases of smart phones the entire quarter prior to an expected iPhone release. Why announce and hold if reducing product competition was the goal?
The only thing I can think of is to steal some of Apple's iOS 5 thunder. Show that Google's Android 4.0 is moving forward too even if it's not really ready.
What do you think?
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First CTIA announcement was delayed, then later an announcement without carriers or release dates. Two weeks later and till no US carrier release information. Seems odd considering the other recent "super phone" announcements came with carrier information, release dates, and pricing. Also the usual parties have not received production review units which I'd expect by now.
Even announcing puts the brakes on product purchases of competing models. Look how many people withheld purchases of smart phones the entire quarter prior to an expected iPhone release. Why announce and hold if reducing product competition was the goal?
The only thing I can think of is to steal some of Apple's iOS 5 thunder. Show that Google's Android 4.0 is moving forward too even if it's not really ready.
What do you think?
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Even I felt it was odd that there is no official US release announcement yet. I just hope the unlocked GSM model gets released this month. I don't mind paying the full price.
I have to admit I would not have been this anxious if I did not loose my Nexus One . It's hard to survive with a 5 year old phone.
vzontini said:
First CTIA announcement was delayed, then later an announcement without carriers or release dates. Two weeks later and till no US carrier release information. Seems odd considering the other recent "super phone" announcements came with carrier information, release dates, and pricing. Also the usual parties have not received production review units which I'd expect by now.
Even announcing puts the brakes on product purchases of competing models. Look how many people withheld purchases of smart phones the entire quarter prior to an expected iPhone release. Why announce and hold if reducing product competition was the goal?
The only thing I can think of is to steal some of Apple's iOS 5 thunder. Show that Google's Android 4.0 is moving forward too even if it's not really ready.
What do you think?
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Well, Verizon did say we're getting the Galaxy Nexus "later this year"... But that's about the only US release information to date.
US carriers just released the old galaxy S II. They want to actually sell some and not have everyone wait 45 days for the newer / better device.
I think its slightly unnerving that theres quite a bit of silence from Google when they've already announced a date for Europe.
I think its because they're trying to work with carriers this time. Whereas with the Nexus S they clearly didn't try that hard. Part of that is pretty much requiring that they get VZW (thats why they made the LTE version), and the other part is trying to push it to more carriers too.
We'll see. I'm not "worried" about it, just curious.
If by next week we still don't have the LTE version labels released by the FCC, then something is curious.
Aridon said:
US carriers just released the old galaxy S II. They want to actually sell some and not have everyone wait 45 days for the newer / better device.
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If that is the reason then why announce in the first place. By announcing they are in fact causing a lot of people to wait and not buy the Galaxy S2, myself included.
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US carriers just released the old galaxy S II. They want to actually sell some and not have everyone wait 45 days for the newer / better device.
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Normal people don't do this. Only nerds do. You're way off base if you think any normal person knows what a "Nexus" phone is, or cares enough to hold off buying a new phone when they're ready to make a purchase.
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I think its slightly unnerving that theres quite a bit of silence from Google when they've already announced a date for Europe.
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You're not alone mate. Here in Europe we have a date but what does it mean? Is it just for the 16 GB version? If yes when does the 32GB arrive? Not a single shop here has a confirmed date when it is in store so we're in the same situation. We can just wait and search the web for infos.
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Nebucatnetzer said:
You're not alone mate. Here in Europe we have a date but what does it mean? Is it just for the 16 GB version? If yes when does the 32GB arrive? Not a single shop here has a confirmed date when it is in store so we're in the same situation. We can just wait and search the web for infos.
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Indeed. I'm constantly looking for information about the 32 GB version as I really need the space and I find it frustrating that there is no information about it. I even asked Samsung Sweden about it and they have yet to reply. They did reply to my other questions I asked them earlier about the GN but not this.
It's pathetic. Google and Samsung screwed up a chance to take the spotlight from 4s.
Carriers ***** slapped both if them and they complied.
Nothing short of bad management to have ZERO information or street dates this far after announcement. The *few weeks* bull**** stopped being believable after gingerbread.
Agreed. I'm not going to reopen any old wounds, because they might be egocentric as another member or two posted, but this is not how you do it.
I just keep looking at that original Nexus One launch and hang my head. If those people involved could only see to now? Dear god they'd be ashamed, I would think.
The more frustrating thing is Google really is so big, the only other people that can bull them into releasing info are more corrupt and more interest centric than Google itself. The actual people that will use the device day in and out, I feel there is no one to speak for our interests.
It would be nice if we could twitter Rubin himself: A number of users, with a simple message: You should be ashamed of the GN launch. #Nexus Fail
bmstrong said:
Agreed. I'm not going to reopen any old wounds, because they might be egocentric as another member or two posted, but this is not how you do it.
I just keep looking at that original Nexus One launch and hang my head. If those people involved could only see to now? Dear god they'd be ashamed, I would think.
The more frustrating thing is Google really is so big, the only other people that can bull them into releasing info are more corrupt and more interest centric than Google itself. The actual people that will use the device day in and out, I feel there is no one to speak for our interests.
It would be nice if we could twitter Rubin himself: A number of users, with a simple message: You should be ashamed of the GN launch. #Nexus Fail
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I wouldn't be so harsh but I ordered my device and so I would like to know where it is and when I can receive it.
The only thing which probably was a bit fail is the fact that they showed it to early.
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I wouldn't be so harsh but I ordered my device and so I would like to know where it is and when I can receive it.
The only thing which probably was a bit fail is the fact that they showed it to early.
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Don't forget it was meant to be announced a week or two before it actually was, so that would have been even earlier.
So far all we have had is either conflicting information, or none at all. Samsung confirmed yesterday that release in the UK would be on the 17th, and literally a matter of hours later retailers are saying this has now been pushed back to w/c 21st
They have lost quite a bit of momentum with the delays and confusion imo. My attitude has gone from "wow, I need this phone now" to "do I really need a new phone?".
I will probably still buy it though
I bet they're still wringing out bugs/issues.
The conspiracy theorist in me says there are patent issues to work out.
My guess is they will never disclose why the launch has been delayed. But I do agree, it's likely lawyers, not engineers involved in the delay.
I like to feel special. If less people have it, it makes me more special.
I had a Samsung Wave in the U-S-of-A. I felt special. Until I started hating it for being so special (Samsung store didn't work in the US).
xManMythLegend said:
It's pathetic. Google and Samsung screwed up a chance to take the spotlight from 4s.
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you honestly think that the Galaxy Nexus would be able to take the spotlight from the iPhone 4S?
PM me so I know where to get the drugs you're on....
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Barkleyfan said:
My guess is they will never disclose why the launch has been delayed. But I do agree, it's likely lawyers, not engineers involved in the delay.
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There's probably a lot of numbers talk going on between Google and the carriers in the USA atm.
Don't know, might be Samsung not Google. Maybe one reason they bought Motorola I bet the next Nexus will be Motorola's
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From the day wp7 released, the next release is always hyped up and touted as 'the' release to use. Similar thing happened when Microsoft showed a sneak peek of Mango 6 months before release and people started saying that everybody should wait for mango phones. Now WP8 details have leaked and everybody says we must wait for next gen phones to buy. This seems to be an ideal case of Osborne effect, where an announcement of a future version ahead of its availability impacts sales of the current generation. What do you guys think ?
p.s : To people who have not heard about this, check out in wikipedia about osborne effect. Since i am a newbie i am not allowed to paste links in the thread.
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From the day wp7 released, the next release is always hyped up and touted as 'the' release to use. Similar thing happened when Microsoft showed a sneak peek of Mango 6 months before release and people started saying that everybody should wait for mango phones. Now WP8 details have leaked and everybody says we must wait for next gen phones to buy. This seems to be an ideal case of Osborne effect, where an announcement of a future version ahead of its availability impacts sales of the current generation. What do you guys think ?
p.s : To people who have not heard about this, check out in wikipedia about osborne effect. Since i am a newbie i am not allowed to paste links in the thread.
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and the point being...
rstheboss said:
From the day wp7 released, the next release is always hyped up and touted as 'the' release to use. Similar thing happened when Microsoft showed a sneak peek of Mango 6 months before release and people started saying that everybody should wait for mango phones. Now WP8 details have leaked and everybody says we must wait for next gen phones to buy. This seems to be an ideal case of Osborne effect, where an announcement of a future version ahead of its availability impacts sales of the current generation. What do you guys think ?
p.s : To people who have not heard about this, check out in wikipedia about osborne effect. Since i am a newbie i am not allowed to paste links in the thread.
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Quite true. WP was rushed to the market and it's still lacking,
so it's the only way to promote it really.
doministry said:
Quite true. WP was rushed to the market and it's still lacking,
so it's the only way to promote it really.
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Lol, dude, don't you get tired of making the same pathetically repetitive posts over and over and over. We get it, it lacks in your eyes.
Anyway, OP, I think that's every platform. I'm sure a lot of people aren't buying Kinect sensors now waiting for Kinect 2, etc.
Its called Marketing, and it happens everywhere, including on other phone platforms and even phones. So... nothing new.
ummm no it doesn't happen on other phone platforms.
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Um yes they do. Look at apple. You think engineers can really take prototypes to a bar and lose them? Not with apples Nazi like control. what MS should do though is make the statement official that all 2nd generation phones will do Apollo so peeps don't wait.
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vetvito said:
ummm no it doesn't happen on other phone platforms.
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It doesn't happen on android because android is completely fragmented. Phones are still being sold with versions of the OS from two years ago. The difference is they are all called "Android OS" no matter which version is on it. Only tech savvy know there is a difference in versions.
Apple, has a schedule'ish they follow for updates.
People are dumb and they forget that new things are always around the corner. I pre-ordered 5 Lumia 900s and we're going to enjoy the **** out of them all year at least, probably a lot longer.
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ummm no it doesn't happen on other phone platforms.
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Android 4.0 is out. Now go look at all the Android phones selling every day (millions or something) and ask yourself which OS is on them?
I don't want to make this thread into a os war but what I meant was that windows phone 7 is the only os about which people are always excited about the next release and not the present. Nobody suggests to buy wp7 now because there is always something to wait for the next. I am aware that the leak about wp8 may not be intentional but it definitely affects phones like lumia 900. People who would have upgraded from first gen windows phones for the look and feel of nokia, will now wait and suggest the same to their friends - Wait for the next flagship. Nokia 1000 maybe ?
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Its called Marketing, and it happens everywhere, including on other phone platforms and even phones. So... nothing new.
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I am talking about an unintentional leak of wp8. Not the marketing for current crop of phones. Any sane tech guy would suggest new buyers asking for advice to wait for wp8 or buy some other phones after this leak and the coverage/hype it got.
Ha. Now a blog post about the same topic in WMPOWERUSER with same osbourne effect exactly a couple of hours i started this thread. I think they read every other thread discussed here for their blog posts.
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Nobody suggests to buy wp7 now because there is always something to wait for the next.
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I disagree. Looking at the threads where people are asking which WP to buy, I can't see people saying "wait for Windows Phone 8". Eight months is a long time to wait for a smartphone. Maybe the situation could be different if you already have a Windows Phone.
Also, I think this will affect iPhone more than Windows Phone. Over the next six months, I think you'll see more coverage / rumors about iPhone 5 than WP8.
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I don't want to make this thread into a os war but what I meant was that windows phone 7 is the only os about which people are always excited about the next release and not the present. Nobody suggests to buy wp7 now because there is always something to wait for the next. I am aware that the leak about wp8 may not be intentional but it definitely affects phones like lumia 900. People who would have upgraded from first gen windows phones for the look and feel of nokia, will now wait and suggest the same to their friends - Wait for the next flagship. Nokia 1000 maybe ?
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NOPE. Rubbish.
Go look at those threads asking for which windows phone to buy?
I don't think a single post apart from the trolls would suggest waiting for next upgrade. Instead people are even suggesting Gen1 WP like HD7 or Samsung Focus. The non-android approach of WP where all handsets get upgrade for 2 years makes it a dead easy choice. Buy ANY one you like, the software will upgrade along with the release.
Hardware wise - yes unless you want NFC, Dual Cores - you would want to wait. Unlike iOS, there are huge screen, small screens, S-LCD, AMOLED, more than one OEM, different prices, different looks, same OS, same apps. Don't see what retard would want to suggest to wait, unless he owned/owns an android.
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Ha. Now a blog post about the same topic in WMPOWERUSER with same osbourne effect exactly a couple of hours i started this thread. I think they read every other thread discussed here for their blog posts.
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I doubt it. The issue is being discuss on a number for forums.
rstheboss said:
I am talking about an unintentional leak of wp8. Not the marketing for current crop of phones. Any sane tech guy would suggest new buyers asking for advice to wait for wp8 or buy some other phones after this leak and the coverage/hype it got.
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I understand your point. Some people are just argumentative and ready to bash a non confirming view.
Perfect example just the responses in this thread.
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Android 4.0 is out. Now go look at all the Android phones selling every day (millions or something) and ask yourself which OS is on them?
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What does that have to do with the topic?
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I disagree. Looking at the threads where people are asking which WP to buy, I can't see people saying "wait for Windows Phone 8". Eight months is a long time to wait for a smartphone. Maybe the situation could be different if you already have a Windows Phone.
Also, I think this will affect iPhone more than Windows Phone. Over the next six months, I think you'll see more coverage / rumors about iPhone 5 than WP8.
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Reguardless of wether it effects the waiting og the ios devices, every single one of them will buy.... another iphone. 4SS, 5, whatever. Its a very simple decision.
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I am talking about an unintentional leak of wp8. Not the marketing for current crop of phones. Any sane tech guy would suggest new buyers asking for advice to wait for wp8 or buy some other phones after this leak and the coverage/hype it got.
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I still see that exact same scenario with every platform, more so on Android than any other.
That being said, there is ALWAYS something better around the corner. But Windows Phone and iOS are two of the few platforms where anyone sane can say that you can get a phone now and be pretty certain that the next update or iteration can run on it. That was a major point of Windows Phone from the start, and if you are seeing the opposite, then you are probably talking to or reading threads from people who know nothing about the platform.
There is really only one platform where I tell people specifically that there is always something newer and shinier around the corner, and that's Android. Fragmentation of the platform, uncertainty about future updates and manufacturer/carrier support, along with the fact that everyone and their mother is churning out tons of different hardware at absolutely unprecedented rates are chief reasons for saying so.
Also, you've got to remember that Windows Phone being a young platform, you're going to have a lot of people talking more about its potential because it is early in it's lifetime. The same thing happened with Android and iOS. The Internet was absolutely buzzing with the potential of both platforms as they both grew and matured. Now that both platforms have somewhat matured, you don't have as much talk about the future and their potential as you used to (but it certainly still happens). The same will be for Windows Phone. As Microsoft develops and continues to expand its platform, people are going to continue to talk about its potential and its future until it gets mature enough where you won't see huge, major changes. Where every update the biggest change will be the version number, more so than the features of the platform.
Of course people are excited for Windows Phone's future and want to talk about it, but there are also many people very happy with it right now as well, its just more fun to talk about the "what ifs" and the "what could be".
Wait till something leaks about iOS 6 or Android 5.0, the same buzz about its potential and future will spike. As usual.
So again, nothing new.
Please provide a link or source to other platforms talking about a new update a half a year before release. Please.
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You can call it a rumor, but we'll see later...
Tango update is coming to all the current Windows Phone smartphones in early June, operators are currently testing the update.
It might be available for download the first week of June for unlocked phones and phones sold by operators.
In Spanish: http://mimovilwindows.com/moviles/o...n-junio-para-moviles-libres-y-subvencionados/
Google translator: http://translate.google.com/transla...n-junio-para-moviles-libres-y-subvencionados/
Hope it's not rumor!
I know what this is great for me and everyone, thank you.
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You can call it a rumor, but we'll see later...
Tango update is coming to all the current Windows Phone smartphones in early June, operators are currently testing the update.
It might be available for download the first week of June for unlocked phones and phones sold by operators.
In Spanish: http://mimovilwindows.com/moviles/o...n-junio-para-moviles-libres-y-subvencionados/
Google translator: http://translate.google.com/transla...n-junio-para-moviles-libres-y-subvencionados/
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I hope this is true because I hope skype gets built in with it (I want skype to run in the background).
I'm actually using Tango now and it's okay; no Skype built in though. But it does video MMS, internet sharing; and a few other things here and there.
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I'm actually using Tango now
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So the next question is: how did you get it?
Cheers,
Stephen
sermann said:
So the next question is: how did you get it?
Cheers,
Stephen
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Hi Stephen,
There are some custom ROMS avilable now with Tango built in but not sure which other phones ROMS are avilable for. Mine is an HTC Trophy U.S. (Spark_W) CDMA. Here is the link: Ansar's Tango custom rom (I am running this rom)
[16.4.2012][NT 8773 18L 3La 3Lb]Spark_W_ML_51260502_R_153000802_2316w0506U by ansar - xda-developers
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Hi Stephen,
There are some custom ROMS avilable now with Tango built in but not sure which other phones ROMS are avilable for. Mine is an HTC Trophy U.S. (Spark_W) CDMA. Here is the link: Ansar's Tango custom rom (I am running this rom)
[16.4.2012][NT 8773 18L 3La 3Lb]Spark_W_ML_51260502_R_153000802_2316w0506U by ansar - xda-developers
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I'm not sure but I think the HD7 also has a Tango ROM available; do a search here on the forum to be sure. Good luck.
I just put Tango on my Surround earlier, it's absolutely excellent. Wp7 is definitely a robust platform. I switched from my Atrix 4G today actually to this phone and even though the Atrix Is 2x the phone hardware wise, and ran great with the ICS rom I had on it, this wp7 phone just feels so damn refined
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I'm using Tango for my HD7 Intrinsic rom by shad4w.
I am not really excited about tango as i was with mango. As much as i love wp7 and my HD7 it feels like to little to late. I know tango was always meant to be a interum update or thats what leaked out as i dont think it was ever confrimed apart from the fact it runs low power hand sets ie 610. I assume microsoft is putting all of there eggs in one basket with Phone 8.
Are the roumors of Tango 2 real? Is there A Tango 2 in the works or will we just have to wait until Appollo?
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Are the roumors of Tango 2 real? Is there A Tango 2 in the works or will we just have to wait until Appollo?
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Well, how to answer. Yes, the rumors are real in the sense that someone has stated a rumor. But they aren't real in the sense that they will come to pass. If that was the case, they wouldn't be rumors anymore just statements of intentions. Are we clear? Crystal.
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Well, how to answer. Yes, the rumors are real in the sense that someone has stated a rumor. But they aren't real in the sense that they will come to pass. If that was the case, they wouldn't be rumors anymore just statements of intentions. Are we clear? Crystal.
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What kind of answer is that? Are you just being silly or maybe in need of attention that you have to give me sarcasm? All I asked was a simple question; a simple yes or no would have been all that was necessary.
Yeap, MS sucks!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/microsoft-unveils-windows-phone-7-8-for-legacy-devices/
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Yeap, MS sucks!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/microsoft-unveils-windows-phone-7-8-for-legacy-devices/
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Cool, so you selling your device so you can buy an Android ...which obviously doesn't suck.....al;kdjghy8t g[pozhunbx......sorry, I threw up saying that.
Bottom line here...they've always said this....It needs to work...if it doesn't , they won't do it. I can live with that...obviously your standards are higher than mine...
Part I like best.... The update will be delivered directly to users, sidestepping carriers, and can be done over WiFi.
its not so much the lack of ability to take advantage of multicore and NFC. but due to the new kernel its the lack of new apps
What is sucks about this is the fragmentation, now you'll see a bunch of apps only supported if you are running WP8. which you wont be able to do on your 2 months old Lumia.
Hopefully this is true.
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/06/20/w...siasts-btw-this-is-a-wp8-lumia-already-right/
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Hopefully this is true.
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/06/20/w...siasts-btw-this-is-a-wp8-lumia-already-right/
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I think this means 7.8. I do not believe they mean 8.0.
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Hopefully this is true.
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/06/20/w...siasts-btw-this-is-a-wp8-lumia-already-right/
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still only available for WP8 devices.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=10653
why so angry.... they are not forgetting 2. gen devices they are just not getting all.
im ok happy about it.. i will keep my Lumia 900 and Lumia 800 and if i can't live with out WP 8 I will just by one when released..
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What is sucks about this is the fragmentation, now you'll see a bunch of apps only supported if you are running WP8. which you wont be able to do on your 2 months old Lumia.
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In basic principle, I can agree. But not in overall. An available app will or won't be able to load on your phone. Its not like it will download and not run right. Like you see in the Android market.
At some point its got to be ok to say, it makes no sense to upgrade a device. If you were to upgrade to 8, but most of the new features didn't work, you would comment about how it didn't work.
Can't have it both ways...well, maybe you can....but still...Microsoft is only doing what it said it would do.
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why so angry.... they are not forgetting 2. gen devices they are just not getting all.
im ok happy about it.. i will keep my Lumia 900 and Lumia 800 and if i can't live with out WP 8 I will just by one when released..
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<---Nodding head...uh huh....yep....exactly !!
Sounds like HD2 drama all over again. Expect XDA to rescue.
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xsever said:
Hopefully this is true.
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/06/20/w...siasts-btw-this-is-a-wp8-lumia-already-right/
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The guy mis-read/mis-understood entirely.
What MS said is that WP8 users, not WP7 users, can register to be Microsoft's test mules for updates that are going to be released soon.
The biggest worry is that WP8 will allow native code for apps, and that many apps will thus not work on "older" phones.
The Lumia 900 is only a few months old and the 800 and 710 and 610 are not much older (all are less than 9 months on the market), but they will not be getting Windows Phone 8 update just like all first generation Windows Phones. Nokia must have known for some time as well that current Lumia buyers would not get WP8 update, this seems unfair especially for Lumia 900 buyers.
I wonder if Nokia plans to do something to make this more fair for current Lumia users?
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I wonder if Nokia plans to do something to make this more fair for current Lumia users?
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How hard would it be to offer the "with-contract" price on the new WP8 devices to current Mango owners, even if they're not eligible for an upgrade? That would satisfy me plenty.
Apps written in native code won't happen immediately. If you're an app developer, why write an app for a market with no installed base when you can write one to cover both the installed base and the developing one?
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The biggest worry is that WP8 will allow native code for apps, and that many apps will thus not work on "older" phones.
The Lumia 900 is only a few months old and the 800 and 710 and 610 are not much older (all are less than 9 months on the market), but they will not be getting Windows Phone 8 update just like all first generation Windows Phones. Nokia must have known for some time as well that current Lumia buyers would not get WP8 update, this seems unfair especially for Lumia 900 buyers.
I wonder if Nokia plans to do something to make this more fair for current Lumia users?
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I agree, I bought my 900 and I love the phone I really do but I somehow feel cheated that Nokia let this phone out knowing there would be no update. And yes I am sure they knew, when releasing this phone that there would be no WP8.
How WP 7.8 will make me happy? I like the new start screen but I also want a file explorer and the ability to add custom tones and ringers at will. Yes I know some of you look at adding custom ringers and tones is silly but hey I like it ...and no I DON'T want an android.
I think AT$T should allow lumia 900 and htc titan owners to upgrade to a new wp8 at the 2 year contract price. I don't want to be stuck with old outdated apps
http://mynokiablog.com/2012/06/20/f...k-with-wp8-but-wp8-apps-will-not-work-on-wp7/
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the ability to add custom tones and ringers at will. Yes I know some of you look at adding custom ringers and tones is silly but hey I like it ...and no I DON'T want an android.
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You can do this now. What am I missing?
You just sync MP3's to your phone, after changing the genere to "ringtone", I believe... there's a bunch of tutorials out ther on the subject.
ballanda123 said:
You can do this now. What am I missing?
You just sync MP3's to your phone, after changing the genere to "ringtone", I believe... there's a bunch of tutorials out ther on the subject.
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lol I know that I was more referring to custom tones for email and messaging. As for custom ringers I think and on board app for making them would be cool. But I already knew bout the methods to make them just to be clear.
Was I a beta tester?
Lol
I think the commercial was aiming at themselves.
redwhiteandblue said:
Apps written in native code won't happen immediately. If you're an app developer, why write an app for a market with no installed base when you can write one to cover both the installed base and the developing one?
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It is other way around. A lot of good apps/games are not ported over to WP7 because of the lack of native code support. Once WP8 is out, you will see a lot of those apps/games flood the martket.
Besides, you can create apps for Windows 8 and WP8 at the same time with very minimum modifications.
F**king ludicrous. All the features I have been waiting for I expected to see in Apollo. VPN, true multitasking, native code execution and the excuse is we can't support newer hardware and older on the same platform?
What total load of bullsh!t. I have been supporting MS OS's for a LONG time now and have windows 7 running on 9 year old computers and XP running on new hardware. I guess the last 20 years of them writing OS's that can do that isn't proof it is possible?! Thanks for thinking were all too stupid to notice.
The only reason samsung is selling as many TVs as they are is because they spend billions of dollars advertising. They use the same strategy for their phones. They don't have to make the best products, just advertise the hell out of them and the sheeps will buy them. Panasonic makes better TVs, they galaxy S3 phone isn't even the best android phone(LG and HTC have better phones).
http://ces.cnet.com/8301-34451_1-57562479/how-samsung-might-actually-get-featuritis-under-control/
And what, exactly, is the point of your post? I don't usually feed the trolls, but I will indulge you.
I got the Galaxy S3 because my work buys me any phone I want each year. I have done all of the research and have owned phones from Apple, Sony Ericsson, HTC, Motorola, LG, and Samsung. I don't have brand loyalty, I just want the best phone for what I need it to do. For me that is the GS3. For you, it may not be.
Who cares about TVs? You replace them every 5 - 6 years as opposed to phones which are replaced every 1 - 2 years. Go hang out in the HTC forum. Maybe you can convince them to spend more on advertising.
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Oh, and I love how your article basically states that NFC is a useless technology. I use it several times a day.
cjranucci said:
And what, exactly, is the point of your post?
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The thread is correctly titled "Clueless Comment", but it needs to be moved to the appropriate section.
cjranucci said:
And what, exactly, is the point of your post? I don't usually feed the trolls, but I will indulge you.
I got the Galaxy S3 because my work buys me any phone I want each year. I have done all of the research and have owned phones from Apple, Sony Ericsson, HTC, Motorola, LG, and Samsung. I don't have brand loyalty, I just want the best phone for what I need it to do. For me that is the GS3. For you, it may not be.
Who cares about TVs? You replace them every 5 - 6 years as opposed to phones which are replaced every 1 - 2 years. Go hang out in the HTC forum. Maybe you can convince them to spend more on advertising.
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Oh, and I love how your article basically states that NFC is a useless technology. I use it several times a day.
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no I was just posting this here if you read the article attached someone posted that comment in the comment section of the article i was just say how clueless they were about samsung phones.
cjranucci said:
Oh, and I love how your article basically states that NFC is a useless technology. I use it several times a day.
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HEHEHEHE... love it...I'm using NFC devices for over 10 years. They are called magnetic card. I use one for get it in to building i work in....
dligon said:
no I was just posting this here if you read the article attached someone posted that comment in the comment section of the article i was just say how clueless they were about samsung phones.
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You should probably put quotes around it and say that it was from the article comments then. The way you presented it, it looks like you wrote the comment yourself and are trolling a Samsung forum.