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A Thank You to all the Devs

Hey Devs & Helpers out there,
Just wanted to write a thank you to all the hard work you put in, gratis, for our device.
I cannot overstate how fantastic it is to have a wide selection of roms for our phone, as it gives the user so many options and things to look forward to in terms of updates, functionality, battery life, etc - the list goes on and on.
It's really made this website a haven, as well as an addiction for myself, and has also made my phone usage (and distractions at the office!) go through the roof. Whenever I use my phone in public, on the subway or whatever, I'm hoping there is another user out there who realizes the graphics / interface on my phone is unique, and can inspire them to "achieve" the same. Perhaps I'll even try to do a little programming myself at some point (although my CS101 class in college was probably one of my biggest challenges - and that's for an ME!)
Once again, best regards and much thanks to those hard working devs out there, who deserve nothing but our gratitude and support. Don't thank this post, thank all the devs who put in time day in and day out. Keep on truckin'!
Best regards,
-Dirk

Agreed. I was late to the game with smartphones...buying my DInc2 last July was my first. I was going to wait to root after my warranty was over, but after rooting my wife's nook color, I ventured over to this forum to see what was going on for my phone. Needless to say, it was probably two weeks after browsing this forum that I started enjoying what the hardworking devs have been up to.
I also wouldn't mind venturing into the development aspect of Android but my wife would kill me if I spent even more time on my phone.

I couldn't have said it any better, thanks all you devs and themers for all your hard work
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+1 thank you all developers.

I have to agree. I've definitely been enjoying the results of all of the devs' hard work. Keep it up!
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Here here!! Another huge thanks to all the devs out there using their personal time to make our phones (and everyone else's for that matter) well worth keeping! There's been plenty of times I wanted to tell a dev how awesome their Rom was but it's taken me some time to get past this 10 post rule. Lol.

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Pete02 said:
Here here!! Another huge thanks to all the devs out there using their personal time to make our phones (and everyone else's for that matter) well worth keeping! There's been plenty of times I wanted to tell a dev how awesome their Rom was but it's taken me some time to get past this 10 post rule. Lol.
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haha, I know exactly what you mean. I'm more a lurker than a poster here, but i'm finding myself wanting to mention bugs or issues i'm having with some of the newer builds. That dang 10 comment rule!
...helps when I don't type the image verification code in the title spot

Thanks!
hoodieNation said:
haha, I know exactly what you mean. I'm more a lurker than a poster here, but i'm finding myself wanting to mention bugs or issues i'm having with some of the newer builds. That dang 10 comment rule!
...helps when I don't type the image verification code in the title spot
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+1 exactly how I am...

Thank you developers!
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new official gapps released for 4.2.2 (20130301)

new official gapps released for 4.2.2 (20130301) http://goo.im/gapps

I don't know why this excited me but it did lol. Thanks.

gpgorbosjr said:
I don't know why this excited me but it did lol. Thanks.
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It excited you because we love flashing zips
Flashaholics
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zephiK said:
It excited you because we love flashing zips
Flashaholics
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Lol! I really liked your answer.

where were these pulled from? can u post original link? please!
eh nevermind should read official cm google apps

HTCore said:
Lol! I really liked your answer.
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Oooh what is that? A shiny ZIP?!?!? I MUST FLASH
.. lol, I get in the habit of flashing nightlies even though its 1 day after and it happens to be 2-3 lines of changed code. Whatever, no big deal! I must flash
Personally for me, I don't like ROM/Kernels or apps that don't get updated frequently. It bothers me and makes me think that the dev is lazy. Always on the go

zephiK said:
Personally for me, I don't like ROM/Kernels or apps that don't get updated frequently. It bothers me and makes me think that the dev is lazy. Always on the go
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That's pretty harsh don't you think? There's Roms made by teams that have many people working on same code while others may work alone and not have the time to build a ROM everyday. Not to mention they do this for free in their own spare time. And really post their work to share with others. Not to make others happy. But hey every one has their opinion I guess. Some people feel the devs are here only for them and feel the Dev must build to make them happy.
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maddoggin said:
That's pretty harsh don't you think? There's Roms made by teams that have many people working on same code while others may work alone and not have the time to build a ROM everyday. Not to mention they do this for free in their own spare time. And really post their work to share with others. Not to make others happy. But hey every one has their opinion I guess. Some people feel the devs are here only for them and feel the Dev must build to make them happy.
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Not harsh at all. Its my own personal opinion because I LIKE to flash ROMs. I have ADHD when it comes to ROMs, I always want something new. I dont care if its the same ROM relabeled with a new date, I'll take it. Franco, one of the most popular kernel devs for the N4 pushes out updates to his kernel every other day while maintaining a full-time job. Its doable, I'm not saying every dev needs to follow his footsteps by any means. I just like flashing stuff.
Yes there are roms made by teams such as CM, AOKP, whatever it may be. All of those ROMs are open sourced and OTHER people kang their ROMs to release a unofficial nightly such as fitsnugly' jellybro and unofficial AOKP releases that are being pushed out on a day-to-day basis.
So no, I'm not being harsh at all. If no one tests the "unofficial nightlies" and tell the devs "hey man there are bugs in here, here and here" with logs. Then that would be a problem and would make it harder for them to release a stable build leading to a LONGER release of a stable release for users who dont want to flash something everyday.
My concept of 'lazy devs' still applies. Would you want to buy a app that hasn't been updated for months and months when there is another competing app that does the same thing that updates frequently? A such example is the famous, Falcon Pro twitter client. Why buy something else when this guy updates his apps all the time? It just means he is commited and really cares about his app.
Same thing when it comes to buying a phone. Do you want a phone by Samsung, LG, Motorola where the manufacturer takes AGES to update their phone? Heck no, that's why we got Nexus devices, so we get updates DIRECTLY from Google themselves. Is that being harsh to Samsung/Motorola/LG? No.

Thanks man!
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zephiK said:
Not harsh at all. Its my own personal opinion because I LIKE to flash ROMs. I have ADHD when it comes to ROMs, I always want something new. I dont care if its the same ROM relabeled with a new date, I'll take it. Franco, one of the most popular kernel devs for the N4 pushes out updates to his kernel every other day while maintaining a full-time job. Its doable, I'm not saying every dev needs to follow his footsteps by any means. I just like flashing stuff.
Yes there are roms made by teams such as CM, AOKP, whatever it may be. All of those ROMs are open sourced and OTHER people kang their ROMs to release a unofficial nightly such as fitsnugly' jellybro and unofficial AOKP releases that are being pushed out on a day-to-day basis.
So no, I'm not being harsh at all. If no one tests the "unofficial nightlies" and tell the devs "hey man there are bugs in here, here and here" with logs. Then that would be a problem and would make it harder for them to release a stable build leading to a LONGER release of a stable release for users who dont want to flash something everyday.
My concept of 'lazy devs' still applies. Would you want to buy a app that hasn't been updated for months and months when there is another competing app that does the same thing that updates frequently? A such example is the famous, Falcon Pro twitter client. Why buy something else when this guy updates his apps all the time? It just means he is commited and really cares about his app.
Same thing when it comes to buying a phone. Do you want a phone by Samsung, LG, Motorola where the manufacturer takes AGES to update their phone? Heck no, that's why we got Nexus devices, so we get updates DIRECTLY from Google themselves. Is that being harsh to Samsung/Motorola/LG? No.
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Everyone has their opinion! Just think calling a dev lazy cause he didn't push updates every day so you can satisfy your ocd is retarded. And that's my opinion. There's a difference in pushing updates to improve something and pushing updates every day to satisfy people with ocd. But hey if that's how you feel good for you bud.
By the way you said you think devs that don't update their Roms or apps FREQUENTLY are lazy. Not months and months. So IDF course I'm not going to be happy with an app that hasn't been updated in months and months. But that's not what you said at first.
Just FYI nightly's are not for people to post bugs. They're exactly for people like you who like to flash every day. That's why you can not post about bugs using a nightly
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maddoggin said:
Everyone has their opinion! Just think calling a dev lazy cause he didn't push updates every day so you can satisfy your ocd is retarded. And that's my opinion. There's a difference in pushing updates to improve something and pushing updates every day to satisfy people with ocd. But hey if that's how you feel good for you bud.
By the way you said you think devs that don't update their Roms or apps FREQUENTLY are lazy. Not months and months. So IDF course I'm not going to be happy with an app that hasn't been updated in months and months. But that's not what you said at first.
Just FYI nightly's are not for people to post bugs. They're exactly for people like you who like to flash every day. That's why you can not post about bugs using a nightly
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I'm not calling a dev lazy because he doesn't push updates every day. I'm talking about devs who leave their works unmaintained and their projects abandoned (LauncherPro.... hello? bunch of people paid for his launcher and the project was left abandoned without any word from the developer). I don't care whether it is a ROM/Kernel/something I bought... I want whatever I'm using to be maintained. I used Rasbeanjelly and that ROM wasn't updated every other day. I like unofficial releases (kangs) of ROMs for particularly CyanogenMod & AOKP.
My point still stands, the majority of us on Nexus devices use Nexus devices for the device to be maintained by Google, not Samsung/LG/HTC/Motorola... because WE LIKE UPDATES AND NOT having to wait 6-7 months after a new Android release to be updated by the manufacturer without any promises that our device will get that particular update. So if I call HTC lazy for not updating all their phones to the newest reiteration of Sense you're going to be offended? No. All of us like update and a sense of being in good hands by having updates, same idea applies to operating systems. Windows.... if Microsoft never updated their OS then we'd have a lot of security problems. Antivirus? .... not updated very often with new virus definitions, you're not in good hands.
I'm not OCD. I just like to FLASH stuff and experiment with my phone. If you want to slam punches over the internet then PM me. Don't try and hijack the thread by trying to bash me because I simply like to flash ROMS/KERNELS/mods/themes on XDA. For some of us, it is a hobby. So if you are going to try and harass me over the internet because flashing stuff is a hobby of mines then you're pretty pathetic by starting a fight over the internet.
Nightlies aren't meant to be posted for bugs, but if they're visible, you go ahead and post them. Especially if its a critical bug, at the end of the day. Nightlies are like "free alpha testers" for your work. In most professional cases, you have to pay people to test your work. The more people "alpha / beta testing" your work ---> faster stable release for the people who want something that is stable. People do post bugs, its apart of the whole system of a nightly. You post on their bug reporter. Bug reports are accepted as long as it includes a sort of logcat, kmsg, etc. It varies on what ROM/kernel you're using.
There are different types of flashers on XDA: 1) Ones that want to flash things just for a stable phone 2) Ones that are the hardcore Android enthusiasts that ALWAYS want the newest and latest. 3) Ones who are just here that want to stay on stock and just come here for the conversation as it is a popular Android forum and do very minimal things to their phone (stock ROM, custom kernel). If you're going to bash a different flasher then you have some serious mental problems.
I don't understand why you're punching blows at me because I PERSONALLY like to flash stuff and don't like to stay on ROMS/KERNELS that rarely get updated. Keep at this and using offensive language and I'll end up ignoring you + reporting you on XDA for calling me a "retard." Not cool.

zephiK said:
I'm not calling a dev lazy because he doesn't push updates every day. I'm talking about devs who leave their works unmaintained and their projects abandoned (LauncherPro.... hello? bunch of people paid for his launcher and the project was left abandoned without any word from the developer). I don't care whether it is a ROM/Kernel/something I bought... I want whatever I'm using to be maintained. I used Rasbeanjelly and that ROM wasn't updated every other day. I like unofficial releases (kangs) of ROMs for particularly CyanogenMod & AOKP.
My point still stands, the majority of us on Nexus devices use Nexus devices for the device to be maintained by Google, not Samsung/LG/HTC/Motorola... because WE LIKE UPDATES AND NOT having to wait 6-7 months after a new Android release to be updated by the manufacturer without any promises that our device will get that particular update. So if I call HTC lazy for not updating all their phones to the newest reiteration of Sense you're going to be offended? No. All of us like update and a sense of being in good hands by having updates, same idea applies to operating systems. Windows.... if Microsoft never updated their OS then we'd have a lot of security problems. Antivirus? .... not updated very often with new virus definitions, you're not in good hands.
I'm not OCD. I just like to FLASH stuff and experiment with my phone. If you want to slam punches over the internet then PM me. Don't try and hijack the thread by trying to bash me because I simply like to flash ROMS/KERNELS/mods/themes on XDA. For some of us, it is a hobby. So if you are going to try and harass me over the internet because flashing stuff is a hobby of mines then you're pretty pathetic by starting a fight over the internet.
Nightlies aren't meant to be posted for bugs, but if they're visible, you go ahead and post them. Especially if its a critical bug, at the end of the day. Nightlies are like "free alpha testers" for your work. In most professional cases, you have to pay people to test your work. The more people "alpha / beta testing" your work ---> faster stable release for the people who want something that is stable. People do post bugs, its apart of the whole system of a nightly. You post on their bug reporter. Bug reports are accepted as long as it includes a sort of logcat, kmsg, etc. It varies on what ROM/kernel you're using.
There are different types of flashers on XDA: 1) Ones that want to flash things just for a stable phone 2) Ones that are the hardcore Android enthusiasts that ALWAYS want the newest and latest. 3) Ones who are just here that want to stay on stock and just come here for the conversation as it is a popular Android forum and do very minimal things to their phone (stock ROM, custom kernel). If you're going to bash a different flasher then you have some serious mental problems.
I don't understand why you're punching blows at me because I PERSONALLY like to flash stuff and don't like to stay on ROMS/KERNELS that rarely get updated. Keep at this and using offensive language and I'll end up ignoring you + reporting you on XDA for calling me a "retard." Not cool.
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Oh my bad forgot we can't use the word retarded to describe something someone does or says anymore. My bad! Report me to who ever you want dude. Just like your adamant about having your opinion so am I!
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Is this just for the nexus or can i use this on an aosp rom on a different phone
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hiz99 said:
Is this just for the nexus or can i use this on an aosp rom on a different phone
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It is not just for the nexus.
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Is the camera app has potosphere and panorama features ?

james300 said:
new official gapps released for 4.2.2 (20130301) http://goo.im/gapps
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what makes these "official", as opposed to the 03/04/2013 gapps that im flashing?

Does anyone know if there has been an inverted set of the new gapps released anywhere. I always keep my eye out for them and usually an update to an inverted app project pops up. I just have not seen one that is based on the new gapps yet (and they usually are pretty quick getting them inverted).
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When using the new gapps zip along with cm10 m2 build , I keep getting doubles of photo frame and photo table under daydreams. Is this common for anyone else ? A Google didn't turn up what I was looking for.

Challanging all DEVS

Ok so here we go. There are a whole lot of fantastic ROMS out there. But how come none have the whole package. I've seen roms out there with multiview; some with page buddy; some with the Note 2 keyboard, etc. But none with them all.
Is this hard to do. If i could learn how to develop roms i sure would make this. Maybe this is impossible, maybe not.
So here is the challenge: (and its probably not a challange)
We have MB1 odexed and deodexed. That can be our base. after that we can implemnt a number of tested and working mods, to include, but not limited to the ones outlined above. After that we can use morphology or whatever app we want to theme and customize this rom. Not everyone likes the Note 2 keyboard or multiview. But some of us like them all. Or maybe just want them just because we can have them.
So what do you think. Please, if you read this leave a response telling what you would love to have in your rom. Maybe we can get a rom call something like your rom that all the devs can contribute to based on this thread.
THANKS:laugh:

dutchmaster18 said:
Ok so here we go. There are a whole lot of fantastic ROMS out there. But how come none have the whole package. I've seen roms out there with multiview; some with page buddy; some with the Note 2 keyboard, etc. But none with them all.
Is this hard to do. If i could learn how to develop roms i sure would make this. Maybe this is impossible, maybe not.
So here is the challenge: (and its probably not a challange)
We have MB1 odexed and deodexed. That can be our base. after that we can implemnt a number of tested and working mods, to include, but not limited to the ones outlined above. After that we can use morphology or whatever app we want to theme and customize this rom. Not everyone likes the Note 2 keyboard or multiview. But some of us like them all. Or maybe just want them just because we can have them.
So what do you think. Please, if you read this leave a response telling what you would love to have in your rom. Maybe we can get a rom call something like your rom that all the devs can contribute to based on this thread.
THANKS:laugh:
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I challenge you to learn to spell challenge and also to just get a Rom with most of them, and the rest are available with simple flash mods.
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xblackvalorx said:
I challenge you to learn to spell challenge and also to just get a Rom with most of them, and the rest are available with simple flash mods.
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correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.

dutchmaster18 said:
correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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here you go Note 2 keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160021

dutchmaster18 said:
correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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Don't flash mods on the wrong roms. Lmao
Cleanbean with multi window mod and the note 2 keyboard provided above should give you every thing you want.
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Best thing to do is make what you want yourself. If you can't do it, don't complain.
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Can't believe this thread. You haven't searched. Hyper drive port has page buddy, note 2 launcher and keyboard
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daniel4653 said:
Can't believe this thread. You haven't searched. Hyper drive port has page buddy, note 2 launcher and keyboard
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i tried hyperdrive. while its a great rom everything isnt working on it. MMs and 4g

you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.

dutchmaster18 said:
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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It's not that it's a stupid idea, just it's been asked a million times before. What happens is that devs bust there butts for free to give us roms. It's not easy being a dev. I'm not a dev by any means but I know it's not easy.
p.s. Don't say you don't know anything about being a dev, send out a challenge then use words like "we" and "our" when you would have no actual dev help.
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Nice idea there chap.
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dutchmaster18 said:
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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Don't worry about it, man. Truth is, many people on xda are no talent assholes that get their jollies by berating others. I'm not sure why its the case.
I think this is a good idea but I also agree with strongsteve, perhaps you could try to build it yourself. I have thought to myself, if only I could have a ROM with x, y and z it would be perfect. However, I'm far too busy to learn coding and ROM building right now so I make do with what's available.
I know how you feel about the people around here, I asked a simple question about a certain mod in a ROM thread and was belittled and basically ostracized from that specific community. I don't let it bother me after all, at the end of the day its just an internet forum about phones.
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mlin said:
Don't worry about it, man. Truth is, many people on xda are no talent assholes that get their jollies by berating others. I'm not sure why its the case.
I think this is a good idea but I also agree with strongsteve, perhaps you could try to build it yourself. I have thought to myself, if only I could have a ROM with x, y and z it would be perfect. However, I'm far too busy to learn coding and ROM building right now so I make do with what's available.
I know how you feel about the people around here, I asked a simple question about a certain mod in a ROM thread and was belittled and basically ostracized from that specific community. I don't let it bother me after all, at the end of the day its just an internet forum about phones.
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You are right. I need to learn how to build a rom.

strongsteve said:
Best thing to do is make what you want yourself. If you can't do it, don't complain.
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This.... Is the reason that people get so irritated here. This isnt a solution to the issue the person posted... A proper response isnt just telling the op to learn to code. You are on a forum that you are obviously quite active on, providing helpful responses seem to be the common thing to do.
I understand where the op is coming from, and i have ran into this issue many times with many different roms across many phones. Heres my solution to you. Rather then use your base rom as a stock unodexed rom. Would i seem to find to be the best workaround would be to use CM as your base. You are far more likely to have the CM Team push out a version of CM to which ever device you are using. From there you can request certain features and mods tailored to CM. You can then create a supplemental mod section for that version of CM, similar to how we have a morphology section, and have a list of flashables. If you are decent enough you can even create a kitchen or make an updater just for cm that flashes these mods. From there you can create individual titanium backups and re-flash those backups each time you update your CM version.
Your issue that you have with certain roms only being tailored to certain people isnt new. This is the "advantage" that apple fanboys seem to boast about is how all the Iphones can download Any program that anyother stock Iphone has. They claim Fragmentation i call it tailored preferencing. I personally find the note keyboard bulky and i hate it, i am true to swype as im more familiar with it so regardless the rom im on i always just install my swype APK.
I figure this would help out a bit, although i provided no clear solution other then say its a bit easier to tailor a mod to a rom then a rom to a mod.

Hamspiced said:
This.... Is the reason that people get so irritated here. This isnt a solution to the issue the person posted... A proper response isnt just telling the op to learn to code. You are on a forum that you are obviously quite active on, providing helpful responses seem to be the common thing to do.
I understand where the op is coming from, and i have ran into this issue many times with many different roms across many phones. Heres my solution to you. Rather then use your base rom as a stock unodexed rom. Would i seem to find to be the best workaround would be to use CM as your base. You are far more likely to have the CM Team push out a version of CM to which ever device you are using. From there you can request certain features and mods tailored to CM. You can then create a supplemental mod section for that version of CM, similar to how we have a morphology section, and have a list of flashables. If you are decent enough you can even create a kitchen or make an updater just for cm that flashes these mods. From there you can create individual titanium backups and re-flash those backups each time you update your CM version.
Your issue that you have with certain roms only being tailored to certain people isnt new. This is the "advantage" that apple fanboys seem to boast about is how all the Iphones can download Any program that anyother stock Iphone has. They claim Fragmentation i call it tailored preferencing. I personally find the note keyboard bulky and i hate it, i am true to swype as im more familiar with it so regardless the rom im on i always just install my swype APK.
I figure this would help out a bit, although i provided no clear solution other then say its a bit easier to tailor a mod to a rom then a rom to a mod.
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Thanks for this post. I didnt think anyone would understand where i was comming from. I wasnt asking for a rom, just for maybe a thread or somthing with all possible mods. That way we could use what we want. I personally like the note keyboard, page buddy, and multiview. But there arent any roms out there with all three. And until I made this thread i couldnt find a working note 2 keyboard that worked for our us versions.:good:

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Thanks for this post. I didnt think anyone would understand where i was comming from. I wasnt asking for a rom, just for maybe a thread or somthing with all possible mods. That way we could use what we want. I personally like the note keyboard, page buddy, and multiview. But there arent any roms out there with all three. And until I made this thread i couldnt find a working note 2 keyboard that worked for our us versions.:good:
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You don't really need a thread with all these mods grouped together. A thorough search would likely land you the apks or zips you're looking for.
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mlin said:
You don't really need a thread with all these mods grouped together. A thorough search would likely land you the apks or zips you're looking for.
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Tbo having a thread dedicated to mods is a great idea that way it would be easier to find mods your looking for it would also help clean up all the thread in the development section as well which make it more focus on roms. Now about search I'm sure a lot of the people on this board use xda from the app which has been a known fact for a very long time to be not very useful. Op great post love the idea.
I love the 90s. Good times.

Now, a thread with all the mods wouldnt be helpful.... HOWEVER a wiki page that lists that particular rom and all the mods that are availible to it that links back into the thread for each mod actually sounds like a viable solution...

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you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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It's cool man, don't feel bad.
The thing is, everyone's kind of bought into this dev-worship thing and interrupting their circlejerk is definitely a no-no. Unfortunately, it has become a common position to hold that you should shut up, take what you're given, and if you're not happy, learn to do it yourself. This is a fine position when it comes to literally complaining or bashing devs for not implementing 'X' feature...But it has been taken to an extreme by some devs, and most users, that any asking for features be met with harsh criticism and intolerance. Fall in line, take what you're given.
Of course, this is an absurd position to take, one they don't accept in any other facet of their life.
What no one seems to have realized is that, aside from the use of the world challenge, your post wasn't at all contentious. I apologize, on behalf of those of us who are still willing to think, for how the people in this thread have treated you.
As an aside, a genuine thank you to the devs who don't take any chance to jump down the throat of a user who is simply asking for specific features in a rom.

To actually answer the OP...
The closest you would get be to compile the flashable zips of all the features you like for yourself
Put the Note 2 keyboard, multiview, and any other mod that you want into a zip and just have it handy for yourself, thats the best you can do short of porting the remaining stuff over haha
As things go popping up, which I'm sure they will, you can go on adding them to your zip

I feel like expressing myself about the roms and kernels available right now for S3;

I've been around since cyanogenmod was just another rom along with bugless beast and whatever the hell was running things on eclair/mytouch and ive compiled kernels hundreds of times back when slackware linux 3.5 was out so i feel like im somewhat of a vet and i appreciate the fact that i have a nice little linux device permanently connected to a broadband connection with so much support in a neat little package.
=)!
and yet i never say anything on XDA i just appreciate... unfortunately i cant post in the development forum because i dont say much ;/
big thumbs up to cyanogenmod for taking their work so seriously and being so persistent, you guys must really love what you do, trust me i know the feeling =]
i just got this phone last week and before i did anything i rooted and installed the latest CM with whatever kernel appealed to me in the dev forum and i thought seriously my screen was defective i had no idea it was just a rom/kernel issue so im glad that over with.
i updated to cm22, and the flicker started again when using the 4/20 KT kernel so ill just stick with cm20 +kt420 for now what an unbelievable combo!
and i'm kinda disappointed in AOKP every time i check the AOKP/task thread somebody is always complaining about something that doesn't work... AOKP used to be my favorite. (when the ICS days began atleast.. i loved it on my gnex)
and by the way... to people having problems flashing between kernels, when you flash a kernel, wipe cache/dalvik, then flash the rom again, then gapps, then the new kernel. kernels include more things than just addition lines of code nowadays and thats the simplest way to work around most issues i see people posting about.
that is all!

Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.

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Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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+1, agreed.
Just like the guy who wants to request a theme for a rom, that morphology has for that same rom.
READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coming from the skyrocket which had a pretty good community I am really pleased with what developers do in their spare time and decide to share when it comes to this device.
There are so many options it can keep a flash junkie busy for a while.
Keep up the great work devs!
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I love these threads....I have an idea: If you are disappointed why don't you step up and create a solution or make your own ROM? Its easy to complain about FREE work when you don't contribute whatsoever.

True, don't complain about something people spend all their time on and give away for free ...
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We have a large dev community compared to many devices out there. I actually came from a galaxy nexus because I got bored of only aosp roms that were all pretty much the same.

(sorry, had to do it )

Tasks AOKP is by far the best ROM out there for the AT&T S3. I have run it longer than any other ROM i've tried and have had absolutely zero problems with it. I will never use anything else for this phone. Just my personal experience of course.

Whoaa guys ease up on the bashing... OP had only one sentence in his post that was negative everything else was positive.
I think everyone appreciates the hard work and time that devs put into all the different roms/kernels available out there.

Up until the late, I can agree that the 3.4 kernel builds (for any ROM including Tasks) weren't all that great which is why I was using CarbonROM with the BMS kernel (3.0).
But I updated to Tasks 4/23 and everything has been great...super super smooth.

Tasks updated kernel has been smooth. I'm running his newest now, flashes it a few hours ago and love it. The devs for the S3 are wonderful. So many more options than other android phones I've had in the past.
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If I'm reading right, OP is disappointed in AOKP and Task's AOKP.... and hasn't tried them yet?
It takes me longer to download a ROM than it does to flash it, restore data and check out all the main features for functionallity..... and you're calling them out by name without trying them?
Gutsy move.

Nothing wrong with AOKP and we have a fantastic aosp community. They seem to be more active then the original development. If anything I'm disappointed with the lack of touchwiz ROMs. All and all. We have a good community and a good group of developers here. /end thread.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back

3rd party ROMs are always works in progress. its not like anyone here is hiding the fact that these are all "in development". not all ROMs are "for" everyone, but that's the beauty of it, there's a flavor for everyone.
I personally prefer ROMs that are subtle improvements to the stock experience which give me a more enhanced version of what Samsung intended. BUT, there are times I'll think about getting a nexus 4, so I'll run a aosp/cm/aokp based ROM while scratching that itch. or those days I wished I had a note 2, we've got options with multi window and page buddy fully working.
if you don't like it, don't use it... simple as that. I've never critisized a ROM or developer if I don't "get" their work, that just means its not a good fit for me and I move on.

andy55 said:
This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
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Here you go, enjoy!

Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Huh?
1.) Looks as though you forgot something as simple as reading. Read my post again. If you consider any of that one post as bashing then I think you might need to check the emotional state you are in at the time that you read it.
2.) You're definitely not reading the OP. He pretty much stated that he hasn't even tried the ROM before judging it. That right there speaks for itself.
3.) Please do yourself a favor and grow up a little. Stirring up the pot with the highschool antics doesnt accomplish anything.
4.) Gold stars for you dude. Keep on contributing this wasteful drama here in a development site. That makes a ton of sense.

[Q] Developers

Our community seems small. How many developers do we have?

I'm getting ready to release my first ROM for this phone.
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Our community seems small. How many developers do we have?
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More than enough. Not really small. We just don't have 30 copies of the same ROM like most lol.
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cstrife999 said:
More than enough. Not really small. We just don't have 30 copies of the same ROM like most lol.
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This^ Previous phone was the GNex and it was unbelievable how many variants and kangs there were for CM10, AOKP, etc. I ran a lot of them but in the end there wasn't all that much that was different from the original rom. In a lot of cases, the variant ran worse.
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Quality is always better than quantity
Like was mentioned above, some phones have 200 Rom threads, but really what's the difference between the Rom? They (aosp variants) are 90% cm based with varying mods pulled from aokp source with pa stuff as well
Really, no disrespect intended those 3 aosp roms are all that matter as everything else is just mashed up and derivative of them
As for sense, you only really need a few roms as well; something stock for those who only want root and a few basic mods, some kind of aroma Rom with user configurable options, and or a rom with a lot if built in mods (well you don't need them lol)
Really imo if you have 5 or 6 roms that meet the above criteria you are set
Unless you have a need to flash a different rom every day that has 1 more bs script or 1 different mod in it
The end user doesn't always see the forest from the trees

I agree with what has been said already. Quality is better than quantity... My old S2 had about 194873 ^6 worth of different roms. Touchwiz this and AOSP that and don't forget the AOKP, with CM and a side of Sense ports. In the end I dropped myself on a really good rom called The Blu Kuban which was headed up by rujelus22 over in the Epic 4g Touch development forum. I ran that rom for about 18 months before I nix'd my device and went over to the red side here at Verizon. I heard he went forth to the S4 and has kept that rom's traditions alive. He was one dev who was helped by the many and made a rom that many made their daily drivers just like I did.
I know we have a good community over here as well as even before beaups dropped rumrunner on us we had a few devs tinkering with their roms.
Now remember! A community is only as good as the people around it. Support your devs any way you can if it's simple donations or a click of the thanks buttons. But most of all, be part of the community. List the bugs you find in the roms, mods, and tweaks. Help the devs make the best they can and we all prosper.

I'd still like to see old Sense on this phone. Like Sense 3 or 4.
I'd also like to see a CM variant built off Sense base. Like the old style ROMs that had all full Sense apk compatibility but no Sense launcher. Not sure if this is doable with Sense 5 though.
And last but not least, hopefully a dev will pick up Ubuntu Touch.
Just a daydreamin' wishlist.. lol

Can't port old sense to new hardware. Plus the old stuff was lower resolution.
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tylerlawhon said:
Can't port old sense to new hardware. Plus the old stuff was lower resolution.
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you could port sense4+ to this phone (someone did it on the intl one) as the kernel base is the same (3.4.x)
dont know why you would really want to, but its possible

nitsuj17 said:
Quality is always better than quantity
Like was mentioned above, some phones have 200 Rom threads, but really what's the difference between the Rom? They (aosp variants) are 90% cm based with varying mods pulled from aokp source with pa stuff as well
Really, no disrespect intended those 3 aosp roms are all that matter as everything else is just mashed up and derivative of them
As for sense, you only really need a few roms as well; something stock for those who only want root and a few basic mods, some kind of aroma Rom with user configurable options, and or a rom with a lot if built in mods (well you don't need them lol)
Really imo if you have 5 or 6 roms that meet the above criteria you are set
Unless you have a need to flash a different rom every day that has 1 more bs script or 1 different mod in it
The end user doesn't always see the forest from the trees
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Consumer choice is always a win. I'd kill for a thread with five million views and fifty three thousand replies. Developers in different sections have had months to build their own form of paradise. Android Revolution HD has fullSnapdragon 600 (GPU) rendering. I want to try that.

Reefer Madness said:
Consumer choice is always a win. I'd kill for a thread with five million views and fifty three thousand replies. Developers in different sections have had months to build their own form of paradise. Android Revolution HD has fullSnapdragon 600 (GPU) rendering. I want to try that.
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thats a bs mod that requires the deleting of a lib (and does nothing)
the end user might enjoy that, real developers know the work done in roms and can sort out the differences between fancy features in a changelog and real code changes and development
views and posts have nothing to do with the work that go into a rom....you can have a thread that explodes because it has a leaked version of sense, a large user base of a rom that drives discussion and hypes upcoming releases, massive bug issues that require help and dicussion, new hboots or firmware needed to run new updates and so on
thread views and # of posts, as well as individual member post count and thanks count is really deceptive and a TERRIBLE barometer of worth in the development community
the best and most important kernel, rom, root exploit, recovery and so on developers that exist in the android world often have a relatively low post and thanks count, whereas guys who release stock deodexed roms made with a rom kitchen in cygwin have tens of thousands of posts and thanks which leads new users and even more experienced ones to inflate their value and skillsets
developers can generally sort out whos who amongst themselves, but its unfortunate that the end user often cant; usually through no fault of their own

nitsuj17 said:
thats a bs mod that requires the deleting of a lib (and does nothing)
the end user might enjoy that, real developers know the work done in roms and can sort out the differences between fancy features in a changelog and real code changes and development
views and posts have nothing to do with the work that go into a rom....you can have a thread that explodes because it has a leaked version of sense, a large user base of a rom that drives discussion and hypes upcoming releases, massive bug issues that require help and dicussion, new hboots or firmware needed to run new updates and so on
thread views and # of posts, as well as individual member post count and thanks count is really deceptive and a TERRIBLE barometer of worth in the development community
the best and most important kernel, rom, root exploit, recovery and so on developers that exist in the android world often have a relatively low post and thanks count, whereas guys who release stock deodexed roms made with a rom kitchen in cygwin have tens of thousands of posts and thanks which leads new users and even more experienced ones to inflate their value and skillsets
developers can generally sort out whos who amongst themselves, but its unfortunate that the end user often cant; usually through no fault of their own
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Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.

Reefer Madness said:
Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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Not to start a war, but I'm going to give you benefit of doubt you probably don't know him. What he said is true.. And you probably just proved his point too.
His work on other devices is proof of that. Give it time, we will see more options now that the crowd is turning more s-off.
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Reefer Madness said:
Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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He did .. You must have not read it...
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cstrife999 said:
He did .. You must have not read it...
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Here I was thinking it was truly reefer madness...lol
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dottat said:
Not to start a war, but I'm going to give you benefit of doubt you probably don't know him. What he said is true.. And you probably just proved his point too.
His work on other devices is proof of that. Give it time, we will see more options now that the crowd is turning more s-off.
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I know what he said is true and I don't care. CPU vs GPU. That interests me.