Ok so here we go. There are a whole lot of fantastic ROMS out there. But how come none have the whole package. I've seen roms out there with multiview; some with page buddy; some with the Note 2 keyboard, etc. But none with them all.
Is this hard to do. If i could learn how to develop roms i sure would make this. Maybe this is impossible, maybe not.
So here is the challenge: (and its probably not a challange)
We have MB1 odexed and deodexed. That can be our base. after that we can implemnt a number of tested and working mods, to include, but not limited to the ones outlined above. After that we can use morphology or whatever app we want to theme and customize this rom. Not everyone likes the Note 2 keyboard or multiview. But some of us like them all. Or maybe just want them just because we can have them.
So what do you think. Please, if you read this leave a response telling what you would love to have in your rom. Maybe we can get a rom call something like your rom that all the devs can contribute to based on this thread.
THANKS:laugh:
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Ok so here we go. There are a whole lot of fantastic ROMS out there. But how come none have the whole package. I've seen roms out there with multiview; some with page buddy; some with the Note 2 keyboard, etc. But none with them all.
Is this hard to do. If i could learn how to develop roms i sure would make this. Maybe this is impossible, maybe not.
So here is the challenge: (and its probably not a challange)
We have MB1 odexed and deodexed. That can be our base. after that we can implemnt a number of tested and working mods, to include, but not limited to the ones outlined above. After that we can use morphology or whatever app we want to theme and customize this rom. Not everyone likes the Note 2 keyboard or multiview. But some of us like them all. Or maybe just want them just because we can have them.
So what do you think. Please, if you read this leave a response telling what you would love to have in your rom. Maybe we can get a rom call something like your rom that all the devs can contribute to based on this thread.
THANKS:laugh:
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I challenge you to learn to spell challenge and also to just get a Rom with most of them, and the rest are available with simple flash mods.
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I challenge you to learn to spell challenge and also to just get a Rom with most of them, and the rest are available with simple flash mods.
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correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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here you go Note 2 keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2160021
dutchmaster18 said:
correct you are and i just noticed the spelling. sorry.
However correct as you are. Im gonna give you a scenario:
I am on a rom now that has the note 2 keyboard, great battery life, and overall is a great rom. But i tried to flash the multiview mod and it broke the contacts and dialer. The mod worked but after i installed i couldnt dial a number to call out. Dirty flased the rom and all is well now, but no multiview.
I was on another rom. It had multiview and page buddy, but no note 2 keyboard. Now when i flashed the note 2 keyboard mod, it didnt work. The mod seemed to work for international only, not ours.
I am something like a noob although ive been flashing since the first galaxy s1 and i have had all three since then and other galaxy variants. I just think this would be a fun project for us ALL to work on and it would be something that wouldnt end.
Sorry if i offended you with my spelling and/or my challEnge.
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Don't flash mods on the wrong roms. Lmao
Cleanbean with multi window mod and the note 2 keyboard provided above should give you every thing you want.
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Best thing to do is make what you want yourself. If you can't do it, don't complain.
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Can't believe this thread. You haven't searched. Hyper drive port has page buddy, note 2 launcher and keyboard
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Can't believe this thread. You haven't searched. Hyper drive port has page buddy, note 2 launcher and keyboard
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
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i tried hyperdrive. while its a great rom everything isnt working on it. MMs and 4g
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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It's not that it's a stupid idea, just it's been asked a million times before. What happens is that devs bust there butts for free to give us roms. It's not easy being a dev. I'm not a dev by any means but I know it's not easy.
p.s. Don't say you don't know anything about being a dev, send out a challenge then use words like "we" and "our" when you would have no actual dev help.
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Nice idea there chap.
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you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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Don't worry about it, man. Truth is, many people on xda are no talent assholes that get their jollies by berating others. I'm not sure why its the case.
I think this is a good idea but I also agree with strongsteve, perhaps you could try to build it yourself. I have thought to myself, if only I could have a ROM with x, y and z it would be perfect. However, I'm far too busy to learn coding and ROM building right now so I make do with what's available.
I know how you feel about the people around here, I asked a simple question about a certain mod in a ROM thread and was belittled and basically ostracized from that specific community. I don't let it bother me after all, at the end of the day its just an internet forum about phones.
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Don't worry about it, man. Truth is, many people on xda are no talent assholes that get their jollies by berating others. I'm not sure why its the case.
I think this is a good idea but I also agree with strongsteve, perhaps you could try to build it yourself. I have thought to myself, if only I could have a ROM with x, y and z it would be perfect. However, I'm far too busy to learn coding and ROM building right now so I make do with what's available.
I know how you feel about the people around here, I asked a simple question about a certain mod in a ROM thread and was belittled and basically ostracized from that specific community. I don't let it bother me after all, at the end of the day its just an internet forum about phones.
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You are right. I need to learn how to build a rom.
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Best thing to do is make what you want yourself. If you can't do it, don't complain.
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This.... Is the reason that people get so irritated here. This isnt a solution to the issue the person posted... A proper response isnt just telling the op to learn to code. You are on a forum that you are obviously quite active on, providing helpful responses seem to be the common thing to do.
I understand where the op is coming from, and i have ran into this issue many times with many different roms across many phones. Heres my solution to you. Rather then use your base rom as a stock unodexed rom. Would i seem to find to be the best workaround would be to use CM as your base. You are far more likely to have the CM Team push out a version of CM to which ever device you are using. From there you can request certain features and mods tailored to CM. You can then create a supplemental mod section for that version of CM, similar to how we have a morphology section, and have a list of flashables. If you are decent enough you can even create a kitchen or make an updater just for cm that flashes these mods. From there you can create individual titanium backups and re-flash those backups each time you update your CM version.
Your issue that you have with certain roms only being tailored to certain people isnt new. This is the "advantage" that apple fanboys seem to boast about is how all the Iphones can download Any program that anyother stock Iphone has. They claim Fragmentation i call it tailored preferencing. I personally find the note keyboard bulky and i hate it, i am true to swype as im more familiar with it so regardless the rom im on i always just install my swype APK.
I figure this would help out a bit, although i provided no clear solution other then say its a bit easier to tailor a mod to a rom then a rom to a mod.
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This.... Is the reason that people get so irritated here. This isnt a solution to the issue the person posted... A proper response isnt just telling the op to learn to code. You are on a forum that you are obviously quite active on, providing helpful responses seem to be the common thing to do.
I understand where the op is coming from, and i have ran into this issue many times with many different roms across many phones. Heres my solution to you. Rather then use your base rom as a stock unodexed rom. Would i seem to find to be the best workaround would be to use CM as your base. You are far more likely to have the CM Team push out a version of CM to which ever device you are using. From there you can request certain features and mods tailored to CM. You can then create a supplemental mod section for that version of CM, similar to how we have a morphology section, and have a list of flashables. If you are decent enough you can even create a kitchen or make an updater just for cm that flashes these mods. From there you can create individual titanium backups and re-flash those backups each time you update your CM version.
Your issue that you have with certain roms only being tailored to certain people isnt new. This is the "advantage" that apple fanboys seem to boast about is how all the Iphones can download Any program that anyother stock Iphone has. They claim Fragmentation i call it tailored preferencing. I personally find the note keyboard bulky and i hate it, i am true to swype as im more familiar with it so regardless the rom im on i always just install my swype APK.
I figure this would help out a bit, although i provided no clear solution other then say its a bit easier to tailor a mod to a rom then a rom to a mod.
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Thanks for this post. I didnt think anyone would understand where i was comming from. I wasnt asking for a rom, just for maybe a thread or somthing with all possible mods. That way we could use what we want. I personally like the note keyboard, page buddy, and multiview. But there arent any roms out there with all three. And until I made this thread i couldnt find a working note 2 keyboard that worked for our us versions.:good:
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Thanks for this post. I didnt think anyone would understand where i was comming from. I wasnt asking for a rom, just for maybe a thread or somthing with all possible mods. That way we could use what we want. I personally like the note keyboard, page buddy, and multiview. But there arent any roms out there with all three. And until I made this thread i couldnt find a working note 2 keyboard that worked for our us versions.:good:
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You don't really need a thread with all these mods grouped together. A thorough search would likely land you the apks or zips you're looking for.
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You don't really need a thread with all these mods grouped together. A thorough search would likely land you the apks or zips you're looking for.
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Tbo having a thread dedicated to mods is a great idea that way it would be easier to find mods your looking for it would also help clean up all the thread in the development section as well which make it more focus on roms. Now about search I'm sure a lot of the people on this board use xda from the app which has been a known fact for a very long time to be not very useful. Op great post love the idea.
I love the 90s. Good times.
Now, a thread with all the mods wouldnt be helpful.... HOWEVER a wiki page that lists that particular rom and all the mods that are availible to it that links back into the thread for each mod actually sounds like a viable solution...
dutchmaster18 said:
you know what guys... nevermind. Everyone making me feel stupid. I was just thinking that it would be a way to incorporate all the WORKING mods in one place as opposed to all over xda. Instead i get a bunch of people making me feel stupid. I found zips for the note 2 keyboard but none of them worked for the us version. Thanks though for the link to the one that came out last week.
I remember when i first signed up for xda i read somewhere that everyone in the forum is friendly.
Anyway ill leave the thread up for a few hours then ill take it down. I supposed i offended quite a few people with my stupid idea.
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It's cool man, don't feel bad.
The thing is, everyone's kind of bought into this dev-worship thing and interrupting their circlejerk is definitely a no-no. Unfortunately, it has become a common position to hold that you should shut up, take what you're given, and if you're not happy, learn to do it yourself. This is a fine position when it comes to literally complaining or bashing devs for not implementing 'X' feature...But it has been taken to an extreme by some devs, and most users, that any asking for features be met with harsh criticism and intolerance. Fall in line, take what you're given.
Of course, this is an absurd position to take, one they don't accept in any other facet of their life.
What no one seems to have realized is that, aside from the use of the world challenge, your post wasn't at all contentious. I apologize, on behalf of those of us who are still willing to think, for how the people in this thread have treated you.
As an aside, a genuine thank you to the devs who don't take any chance to jump down the throat of a user who is simply asking for specific features in a rom.
To actually answer the OP...
The closest you would get be to compile the flashable zips of all the features you like for yourself
Put the Note 2 keyboard, multiview, and any other mod that you want into a zip and just have it handy for yourself, thats the best you can do short of porting the remaining stuff over haha
As things go popping up, which I'm sure they will, you can go on adding them to your zip
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well, I got brave and rooted my S3, and was looking to go further by trying a rom.
This is my first smartphone, so I don't have a lot of experience with different models, but I like touchwiz, and enjoy S voice and search google via voice to text. Actually, there is not a lot about this phone that I don't like. That said, I always believe a product can be made better.
I read a post somewhere a few days ago where someone commented that they had tried a variety of roms, but ended up going back to a modified sammy rom because Cyanogen and AOKP roms removed all of the stuff that made his S3 special. He commented that it made it feel like a 2 year old Nexus. Not having tried any of these roms, I cannot vouch for the truth in this, but it makes sense, and I too want my S3 to be "special... plus"
Some of the things I'm looking for in a rom are
keeping s voice
a toggle mod
some debloating
Beats audio, or similar
I would like a translucent status bar (is that what is called?) .. the thing you pull down from the homescreen
Free GS3 might be an option, but its a T mobile port, and I'm not sure about it.
any recommendations are certainly welcome.
Thanks...
Re: [Q] ROM Suggestions
Welcome to android!
Before a mod shuts this down because these types of threads don't get to stay and your in the wrong section as well. I will tell your best bet is to read, read some more and then try some out. There a lot of great roms but your the only one who will know if its right for you.
Good luck!
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Welcome to android!
Before a mod shuts this down because these types of threads don't get to stay and your in the wrong section as well. I will tell your best bet is to read, read some more and then try some out. There a lot of great roms but your the only one who will know if its right for you.
Good luck!
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thanks. My bad, whats the right section?
noobs like me can't post in the developers forums
BTW, I've been reading, and reading and reading some more, but recommendations are always welcome.
I did run across a similar thread, but of course it was a general android question, not specific to At&t, which is what I have.
This is very simple if you want a reliable non bug all features working rom... just stay with stock... all other roms are not perfect, they will give you some but it will also lack on something, I have try them all and always come back to stock.
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This is very simple if you want a reliable non bug all features working rom... just stay with stock... all other roms are not perfect, they will give you some but it will also lack on something, I have try them all and always come back to stock.
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Thanks, I had considered that possibility, but thought I would ask.
Q&A Should be where questions go. I would also say there are many solid stable roms. Read, read and try as many as you want. All phones are not 100% the same and your apps and setups can effect how it runs.
Good luck
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There are multiple threads in this (General) section and the Q&A section. Please search and read those threads for opinions, options, etc. Moreover ROMs are a personal choice, and are subjective to user experience. I'd suggest making a nandroid backup, flash a ROM, if you don't like it, restore your backup and try another.
Thread Closed.
P.S. Welcome to Android and XDA.
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hey guys, i just modified the liquid smooth rom cause i was bored.
all credits go to the liquid team...i really didnt do anything hard, and i dont consider myself to be a real developer now.
just wondering if anyone wants to test it out to see if it works, and give some feedback.
http://www.mediafire.com/?zj1dfa69nmyewzn
Changes made:
-removal/replacement of a few apps
-build.prop changes
-changes to updater-script
-changed boot animation
Like I said, I didn't make this to make a more optimized version of liquid smooth. It's more of an experiment/attempt to learn a bit.
Thanks.
btw gapps arent included.
What changes did you make to the rom?
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falcons2 said:
What changes did you make to the rom?
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a few build.prop tweaks, some modification of systemui, deleted some apps and added others, changed bootanimation, and i think some other stuff that i cant remember anymore.
Not really a good way to inspire confidence in a ROM that you don't even know what you did to it...
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Not really a good way to inspire confidence in a ROM that you don't even know what you did to it...
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im not really trying to promote it to everyone. i just did this as an experiment, and i just want to know if its booting ok, not force closing apps, etc. so that i know whether or not to change something.
How about you test it out yourself before asking others to risk trying it. Just a simple piece of advice.
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How about you test it out yourself before asking others to risk trying it. Just a simple piece of advice.
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According to his sig, he doesn't seem to have a GS3. Probably why he is asking for people to test it for him.
and i dont consider myself to be a real developer now.
just wondering if anyone wants to test it out to see if it works said:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zj1dfa69nmyewzn[/url]
Thanks.
btw gapps arent included.
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Feedback:
Who'd want to "Test" a rom from a non-developer, when there are many that are from DEVELOPERS, not to mention the Liquid Smooth was developed by a full team. This to me infers that you are better than a team? Oh well, if you want to try peeps, go for it, but remember, it was done by someone who says he was not a developer.
like getting on a bus with a legally blind driver!
I have no understanding why anyone would!....... and "TEST"? OMG
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Feedback:
Who'd want to "Test" a rom from a non-developer, when there are many that are from DEVELOPERS, not to mention the Liquid Smooth was developed by a full team. This to me infers that you are better than a team? Oh well, if you want to try peeps, go for it, but remember, it was done by someone who says he was not a developer.
like getting on a bus with a legally blind driver!
I have no understanding why anyone would!....... and "TEST"? OMG
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i clearly said in my original post, that i take no credit for this, and that all credit goes to the liquid smooth team.
By test i didnt mean to go through the whole rom and check if every single thing works. Im just asking that you flash it
and let me know if it boots fine and doenst have any major issues.
like i said, im not trying to promote this as the best rom for the s3 that everyone should start using.
no need to get all pissed...it was just a simple question. If you dont want to try it, why even post?
i understand your concern guys, but blind development happens all around XDA. if this guy today had a "Recognized Developer" tag, i bet many of you would try it out. don't underestimate the OP.
that said, make sure you do understand that there is a risk since this is a blind development, although i doubt anything would go wrong since this is just something the OP took from an already working ROM for the TMO Galaxy S III and tweaked it a bit...
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i understand your concern guys, but blind development happens all around XDA. if this guy today had a "Recognized Developer" tag, i bet many of you would try it out. don't underestimate the OP.
that said, make sure you do understand that there is a risk since this is a blind development, although i doubt anything would go wrong since this is just something the OP took from an already working ROM for the TMO Galaxy S III and tweaked it a bit...
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+1. We can do without the drama guys. The OP is doing absolutely nothing out of the ordinary by developing blind. Yes, it is always a risk for testers, which is why he posted this here looking for the willing. If you don't want to try it, please move along and stop flaming each other. :good:
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i understand your concern guys, but blind development happens all around XDA. if this guy today had a "Recognized Developer" tag, i bet many of you would try it out. don't underestimate the OP.
that said, make sure you do understand that there is a risk since this is a blind development, although i doubt anything would go wrong since this is just something the OP took from an already working ROM for the TMO Galaxy S III and tweaked it a bit...
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Thanks. Like you said I doubt flashing this would cause any harm. All I really did was change a couple apps and replace some pics in systemui and frameworkres.
Just make a nandroid, flash the rom, let me know if it installs/boots properly, and then just restore your nandroid.
My apologies go out to the op. He did make an effort to further improve an already outstanding rom and asking for testers is KEY. It's a great start for experimenting while increasing your knowledge on the more advanced aspects of android. Will give this a try once my S3 is fully charged!
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I bet if he was a recognize developer you all wouldn't be a§§es. Just say no thank you and move on. Too many drama lovers on this site I swear.
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Considering that its possible to modify firmware images and inject custom malicious code, I don't see anything wrong with questioning someone's motives for putting up a ROM that they admit they don't even remember what changes were done to it. I can understand if you think you've improved upon something but without a change log or anything there isn't really any reason to test it. Being cautious is not the same as being an ass.
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Considering that its possible to modify firmware images and inject custom malicious code, I don't see anything wrong with questioning someone's motives for putting up a ROM that they admit they don't even remember what changes were done to it. I can understand if you think you've improved upon something but without a change log or anything there isn't really any reason to test it. Being cautious is not the same as being an ass.
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I agree, there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning something suspicious. But there are ways to do it without coming off like a jerk.
@OP I do advise adding more to the OP about the changes made if you want testers.
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I agree, there is absolutely nothing wrong with questioning something suspicious. But there are ways to do it without coming off like a jerk.
@OP I do advise adding more to the OP about the changes made if you want testers.
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One thing that I hate about the internet - you can't really control how your message is taken by others. I wasn't trying to be a jerk at all.
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One thing that I hate about the internet - you can't really control how your message is taken by others. I wasn't trying to be a jerk at all.
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Oh no, I wasn't aiming that towards you at all. It was just a general statement. Now let's stop spamming this thread with off topic posts
Everybody has a point to start. May be this is his point.
I swear if I was fan of 4.2 roms I would do it for you. But I already had too much headache with 4.2 roms.
Dont forget to ask original dev before you modify his work like this.
Gud luck ahead.
the rom has 6 downloads, however no one has given any feedback?
if anyone flashed it could you let me know if it works ok.
Okay, so we have all of course seen that Synergy ROM and GalaxyMod have gotten multi-window/multi-view (is there seriously an official name for it??) working on the Galaxy S3, and on 4.1.1 no less.
This is really bugging the crap out of me (and probably a few other frustrated people). See, I want to make my own ROM from stock with all the features I want, without having to even deal with ROMs like Synergy that just don't quite fit with what I want and what works.
So I shall ask the question many may be dying to answer themselves, and why not sit down and actually discuss it rather than say "oh go here and get 'x' rom lol".
How does one get the Galaxy Note 2's Multi-window feature working on a Galaxy S3 touchwiz (or perhaps even AOSP) ROM?
Simple as that.
We all know it is possible, since it has already been done. And even on a version beneath 4.1.2!
If anyone has any clue whatsoever, please contribute to the discussion. I hope that soon this can be useful to all who would like this feature.
If anyone has any arguments to me asking the question, I haven't ever found an answer, and I've searched almost anywhere I possibly could (even here). So please don't.
Thank you.
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Okay, so we have all of course seen that Synergy ROM and GalaxyMod have gotten multi-window/multi-view (is there seriously an official name for it??) working on the Galaxy S3, and on 4.1.1 no less.
This is really bugging the crap out of me (and probably a few other frustrated people). See, I want to make my own ROM from stock with all the features I want, without having to even deal with ROMs like Synergy that just don't quite fit with what I want and what works.
So I shall ask the question many may be dying to answer themselves, and why not sit down and actually discuss it rather than say "oh go here and get 'x' rom lol".
How does one get the Galaxy Note 2's Multi-window feature working on a Galaxy S3 touchwiz (or perhaps even AOSP) ROM?
Simple as that.
We all know it is possible, since it has already been done. And even on a version beneath 4.1.2!
If anyone has any clue whatsoever, please contribute to the discussion. I hope that soon this can be useful to all who would like this feature.
If anyone has any arguments to me asking the question, I haven't ever found an answer, and I've searched almost anywhere I possibly could (even here). So please don't.
Thank you.
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You have to code it into the rom your using. Which means ripping your rom apart down to the base code and redoing alot of the coding from scratch.
AOSP is not an option. If you dont know why then you might want to rethink doing it your self.
You will need to know Java and C++ to start with.
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You have to code it into the rom your using. Which means ripping your rom apart down to the base code and redoing alot of the coding from scratch.
AOSP is not an option. If you dont know why then you might want to rethink doing it your self.
You will need to know Java and C++ to start with.
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So basically what you're saying is that I should download the source code from Samsung and code it into the ROM? (can't think of any other way to get to the base code simply from my little ROM itself, so that's why I ask this) Never worked with actual source code yet, so I might need a few pointers. It has always seemed as though source codes for different sorts of software are handled differently. And that's true. The thing is, finding how to handle each person's/company's source, and I still have much to learn in that regard.
Call me a noob if you'd like, because I pretty much am. But even so I would like to learn. Just saying. (and before you say "oh, well then go look at the other parts of the forum if you're so helpless", I'm just throwing it out there)
Okay. I thought I saw multi-window on an AOSP ROM but I could be mistaken. Besides, I don't have to do it myself. I could probably team up with my friend who is a hardcore android phone modder like myself.
Yeah, I figured I'd need to know Java and C++ to legitimately code android itself. I'll probably be able to get it down completely one of these days. For now, I'm still learning it.
There is a mod on the sprint gs3 forums that has multiwindow. It's a flashable mod for sprint 4.1.2 rims only though. It's a lotmore work than just that though. Port Sprint ROM then add the mod. And more behind Tue scenes stuff.
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Ascyndaeon said:
How does one get the Galaxy Note 2's Multi-window feature working on a Galaxy S3 touchwiz
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You NEED to also know that the APKs themselves also need to be multi-view compatible. This means decompiling and re-compiling each APK for your device (with the change in coding).
I'm not sure if you'd need to change the build prop to match the Note2 as well, but I think your CSC can remain the same.
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There is a mod on the sprint gs3 forums that has multiwindow. It's a flashable mod for sprint 4.1.2 rims only though. It's a lotmore work than just that though. Port Sprint ROM then add the mod. And more behind Tue scenes stuff.
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Thank you. I figured this might be moreso the case, as Team Synergy apparently made their ROM by using dsixda's android kitchen. Porting methods definitely must be learnt to get this kind of thing going.
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You NEED to also know that the APKs themselves also need to be multi-view compatible. This means decompiling and re-compiling each APK for your device (with the change in coding).
I'm not sure if you'd need to change the build prop to match the Note2 as well, but I think your CSC can remain the same.
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So I'm assuming you mean we should use something like apktool. The question then is what parts of each code do we change/add to make it work. Alternatively, I have seen mods that make it so just about any app will work as well.
I'm supposing I should get the stock Note 2 ROM to obtain the build.prop? I dunno, I haven't done much with build.prop's.
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So I'm assuming you mean we should use something like apktoo
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This is correct. I don't have the correct answer to any of your other queries as we are actually in the same boat.
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This is correct. I don't have the correct answer to any of your other queries as we are actually in the same boat.
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Okay. Well hopefully soon we will have the answer.
If anyone else has any info, please share it.
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Bump?
You are better off learning to use Dsixda's Kitchen or wait on someone else to create a custom ROM for this.
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You are better off learning to use Dsixda's Kitchen or wait on someone else to create a custom ROM for this.
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Well...I actually already know how to use the Kitchen. It's really simple to use. You just need to know how to install individual mods after you do what needs to be done in the kitchen itself. The only thing I don't fully know is how to port. He doesn't give any pointers because he doesn't actually know how to port either.
And I really don't want to wait for someone else to make a ROM with it included. We already have two, and both are still pretty buggy. Synergy is notably slow (despite CPU tweaks) and there are quite a few apps that don't even work on it (for example, the regular e-mail app). I'm determined to figure out and know how top create my own ROM, but if I can't get the info I need to progress then it'll be pretty tough.
Like I said though. I'm determined to gain the knowledge to do what I want.
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Ascyndaeon said:
Well...I actually already know how to use the Kitchen. It's really simple to use. You just need to know how to install individual mods after you do what needs to be done in the kitchen itself. The only thing I don't fully know is how to port. He doesn't give any pointers because he doesn't actually know how to port either.
And I really don't want to wait for someone else to make a ROM with it included. We already have two, and both are still pretty buggy. Synergy is notably slow (despite CPU tweaks) and there are quite a few apps that don't even work on it (for example, the regular e-mail app). I'm determined to figure out and know how top create my own ROM, but if I can't get the info I need to progress then it'll be pretty tough.
Like I said though. I'm determined to gain the knowledge to do what I want.
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There are porting guides all over XDA and one in our very own development section. You could run a few things by the guy who made the CSROM BMB rom...and its not buggy as you said others are. It's has a Sprint base and works well with the multiview feature.
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There are porting guides all over XDA and one in our very own development section. You could run a few things by the guy who made the CSROM BMB rom...and its not buggy as you said others are. It's has a Sprint base and works well with the multiview feature.
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hednik, you are in love with upndwn4par. thats all there is to it
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hednik, you are in love with upndwn4par. thats all there is to it
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What's not to love?
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xBeerdroiDx said:
hednik, you are in love with upndwn4par. thats all there is to it
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No offense to all the bother devs here but he like loser makes the most solid ROMs and his work goes unnoticed. Guys a boss
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hednik said:
No offense to all the bother devs here but he like loser makes the most solid ROMs and his work goes unnoticed. Guys a boss
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agreed. no offense to any devs as well but their are several trending ROMs/devs that everyone seems to run to...without even looking at the great (and often more stable) material that already exists. not to mention, guys like upndwn4par have their hands in a dozen other small mods/patches and really, really useful bits of software that have made S3 life for many of us so much easier.
hednik said:
There are porting guides all over XDA and one in our very own development section. You could run a few things by the guy who made the CSROM BMB rom...and its not buggy as you said others are. It's has a Sprint base and works well with the multiview feature.
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Yeah I know. I've bookmarked a couple so I can go through them when I have time. :3
Oh, wow! I just went and looked at that ROM and it looks pretty bada$$!!
Also wondering if Gruesomewolf's multi-window mod will work on any ROM. Not real sure what "MB1" is though...
That's so awesome though. I'm a bit surprised people like Max Lee haven't featured that yet.
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Mb1 is the sprint 4.1.2 leak. The gruesomwolf mod gas the have a sprint 4.1.2 base... Maybe Verizon will work but at&t and T-Mobile haven't gotten it yet.
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Ascyndaeon said:
So basically what you're saying is that I should download the source code from Samsung and code it into the ROM? (can't think of any other way to get to the base code simply from my little ROM itself, so that's why I ask this) Never worked with actual source code yet, so I might need a few pointers. It has always seemed as though source codes for different sorts of software are handled differently. And that's true. The thing is, finding how to handle each person's/company's source, and I still have much to learn in that regard.
Call me a noob if you'd like, because I pretty much am. But even so I would like to learn. Just saying. (and before you say "oh, well then go look at the other parts of the forum if you're so helpless", I'm just throwing it out there)
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So if you want to create a Rom with multi Window you will need framework from gs3 4.1.1 4.1.2 and note 2 4.1.2. You do not need the source from Samsung necessarily as you can pull framework-res.apk with adb, but you need a thorough knowledge of java and c++. You don't normally start off doing major reconstructive editing to roms. If you have adk set up build an app first. There are tons of tutorials in xda and all over google. Then move on to theming and whatnot.
Remeber to hit Thanks if I've been helpful.
I've been around since cyanogenmod was just another rom along with bugless beast and whatever the hell was running things on eclair/mytouch and ive compiled kernels hundreds of times back when slackware linux 3.5 was out so i feel like im somewhat of a vet and i appreciate the fact that i have a nice little linux device permanently connected to a broadband connection with so much support in a neat little package.
=)!
and yet i never say anything on XDA i just appreciate... unfortunately i cant post in the development forum because i dont say much ;/
big thumbs up to cyanogenmod for taking their work so seriously and being so persistent, you guys must really love what you do, trust me i know the feeling =]
i just got this phone last week and before i did anything i rooted and installed the latest CM with whatever kernel appealed to me in the dev forum and i thought seriously my screen was defective i had no idea it was just a rom/kernel issue so im glad that over with.
i updated to cm22, and the flicker started again when using the 4/20 KT kernel so ill just stick with cm20 +kt420 for now what an unbelievable combo!
and i'm kinda disappointed in AOKP every time i check the AOKP/task thread somebody is always complaining about something that doesn't work... AOKP used to be my favorite. (when the ICS days began atleast.. i loved it on my gnex)
and by the way... to people having problems flashing between kernels, when you flash a kernel, wipe cache/dalvik, then flash the rom again, then gapps, then the new kernel. kernels include more things than just addition lines of code nowadays and thats the simplest way to work around most issues i see people posting about.
that is all!
Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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+1, agreed.
Just like the guy who wants to request a theme for a rom, that morphology has for that same rom.
READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coming from the skyrocket which had a pretty good community I am really pleased with what developers do in their spare time and decide to share when it comes to this device.
There are so many options it can keep a flash junkie busy for a while.
Keep up the great work devs!
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I love these threads....I have an idea: If you are disappointed why don't you step up and create a solution or make your own ROM? Its easy to complain about FREE work when you don't contribute whatsoever.
True, don't complain about something people spend all their time on and give away for free ...
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We have a large dev community compared to many devices out there. I actually came from a galaxy nexus because I got bored of only aosp roms that were all pretty much the same.
(sorry, had to do it )
Tasks AOKP is by far the best ROM out there for the AT&T S3. I have run it longer than any other ROM i've tried and have had absolutely zero problems with it. I will never use anything else for this phone. Just my personal experience of course.
Whoaa guys ease up on the bashing... OP had only one sentence in his post that was negative everything else was positive.
I think everyone appreciates the hard work and time that devs put into all the different roms/kernels available out there.
Up until the late, I can agree that the 3.4 kernel builds (for any ROM including Tasks) weren't all that great which is why I was using CarbonROM with the BMS kernel (3.0).
But I updated to Tasks 4/23 and everything has been great...super super smooth.
Tasks updated kernel has been smooth. I'm running his newest now, flashes it a few hours ago and love it. The devs for the S3 are wonderful. So many more options than other android phones I've had in the past.
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If I'm reading right, OP is disappointed in AOKP and Task's AOKP.... and hasn't tried them yet?
It takes me longer to download a ROM than it does to flash it, restore data and check out all the main features for functionallity..... and you're calling them out by name without trying them?
Gutsy move.
Nothing wrong with AOKP and we have a fantastic aosp community. They seem to be more active then the original development. If anything I'm disappointed with the lack of touchwiz ROMs. All and all. We have a good community and a good group of developers here. /end thread.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
3rd party ROMs are always works in progress. its not like anyone here is hiding the fact that these are all "in development". not all ROMs are "for" everyone, but that's the beauty of it, there's a flavor for everyone.
I personally prefer ROMs that are subtle improvements to the stock experience which give me a more enhanced version of what Samsung intended. BUT, there are times I'll think about getting a nexus 4, so I'll run a aosp/cm/aokp based ROM while scratching that itch. or those days I wished I had a note 2, we've got options with multi window and page buddy fully working.
if you don't like it, don't use it... simple as that. I've never critisized a ROM or developer if I don't "get" their work, that just means its not a good fit for me and I move on.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
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Here you go, enjoy!
Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Huh?
1.) Looks as though you forgot something as simple as reading. Read my post again. If you consider any of that one post as bashing then I think you might need to check the emotional state you are in at the time that you read it.
2.) You're definitely not reading the OP. He pretty much stated that he hasn't even tried the ROM before judging it. That right there speaks for itself.
3.) Please do yourself a favor and grow up a little. Stirring up the pot with the highschool antics doesnt accomplish anything.
4.) Gold stars for you dude. Keep on contributing this wasteful drama here in a development site. That makes a ton of sense.
there is another AOSP rom in the GT n7105 section that also works on tolteatt model. im not a dev but i flashed it and it works well. its called CM remix rom. I never knew about it until a few days ago so if anyone is looking for a better rom than any other here go check it out. I will ask the dev to post a link here too.
thanks
heres the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658573
all credits go to ROM DEVS not me
"A better Rom than any on here"
Great way to compliment the developers that give you custom OS for free. They spend hours getting these together, have some respect or go build your own Roms.
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I didn't mean it any negative way. I meant like as in customization. It has a lot try it for urself
And I have used all roms on here and gave my thanks to devs. And have donated to almost all of them. So instead of looking for phrase I said and quoting it, go and see if u like the rom. Coz that's what I was trying to do. Just to let people know that there is also another rom out there. I didn't mean any offense to anyone. It's bc people like u who read between the lines things like this even come up
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I didn't mean it any negative way. I meant like as in customization. It has a lot try it for urself
And I have used all roms on here and gave my thanks to devs. And have donated to almost all of them. So instead of looking for phrase I said and quoting it, go and see if u like the rom. Coz that's what I was trying to do. Just to let people know that there is also another rom out there. I didn't mean any offense to anyone. It's bc people like u who read between the lines things like this even come up
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We appreciate the offering...
It just sounded a bit condescending is all...
Purely unintentional as well I'm sure...
Any code is good code when we get it added to the list of great ROMs found here...
So I'll offer the first olive branch...and say thank you...g
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We appreciate the offering...
It just sounded a bit condescending is all...
Purely unintentional as well I'm sure...
Any code is good code when we get it added to the list of great ROMs found here...
So I'll offer the first olive branch...and say thank you...g
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no problem, just doing my civic duty sir
Maybe change the title and request the mods to move this over to the General Thread. Since this is more informational.
And perhaps edit the OP post to clarify your intentions. Since it comes down to personal preference it's hard to declare a ROM the best.
I can see how Infamous would get bent. Quality is #1 out of that group. As someone who has put in a metric a** ton of hours on a MK6 Touchwiz ROM. I can see how it could be taken wrong.
I flashed this today and Damn it is good. Huge amount of customization and so far everything running smooth. Used CM based Agni and working very well
Just to clarify I wasn't upset or anything I just felt that someone needed to give that PSA. And as a game developer I know you can't please everyone and they all have preferences but claiming that something is better than someone else's free work is a bit disrespectful on XDA imo. Day to day talk is different as that's your preference. For example I think it was disrespectful for someone on here to basically mirror a ROM change a few thing and claim as their own but I would never say anymore than that on here. @gregsarg knows what I'm talking about
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