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which OS is better windows mobile or Android
eng_bobbo said:
please help me to choose
which OS is better windows mobile or Android
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depends what you're looking for.
I actually just came from android (htc incredible s) to wp7 and I love it.
Android has much more (and better quality) apps, though imo wp7 is a lot smoother of an os, and much more consistent (all apps have the metro look and feel, it is a theme that stays consistant through the os).
I got sick of constantly flashing new roms to try to boost performance, and decided I instead wanted something that just worked, and I didn't feel the need to always mess with.
Neither. Pick what's best for you.
I personally had to flash my HD7 to get any kind of joy out of it.
eng_bobbo said:
please help me to choose
which OS is better windows mobile or Android
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its windows phone not mobile and it depends on what your expectations are. If you;re expecting to install themes, use usb storage, swap sd cards, or run amock on your phone then no
if you just want a smooth intuitive experience centered around social networking and goregrous but limiting interface then yes.
If you want it to work first time, every time, and you have a life to be getting on with: Windows Phone
If you want to be constantly fiddling with it trying to make it work, or want to be constantly rebooting it, or constantly messing around with customising it: Android
andrewkeith5 said:
If you want it to work first time, every time, and you have a life to be getting on with: Windows Phone
If you want to be constantly fiddling with it trying to make it work, or want to be constantly rebooting it, or constantly messing around with customising it: Android
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In other words, if you want a great OS that is feature enabled out of the box and performs like the top OS it is, use Windows Phone.
How much do you care about apps? If a lot then go with android. But if you use core functions such as browser the most then stick to windows phone. Also depends on how comfortable you are with messing with your phone. There are a lot of problems with android but you can fix most of them yourself by tweaking your phone.
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Which ever you like the most.
I personally hate the tile system with windows phone, I hate the dependency with SilverLight. I hate the fact that microsoft phones have low ram and worse processors.
I quite like microsoft but I think I'll wait for next year windows 8, which will be available in all sorts of platforms.
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biohazard2u said:
Which ever you like the most.
I personally hate the tile system with windows phone, I hate the dependency with SilverLight. I hate the fact that microsoft phones have low ram and worse processors.
I quite like microsoft but I think I'll wait for next year windows 8, which will be available in all sorts of platforms.
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512mb is hardly low ram...
I think you're missing the point that unlike android, wp7 doesn't need huge specs to run well
biohazard2u said:
Which ever you like the most.
I personally hate the tile system with windows phone, I hate the dependency with SilverLight. I hate the fact that microsoft phones have low ram and worse processors.
I quite like microsoft but I think I'll wait for next year windows 8, which will be available in all sorts of platforms.
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Unless you're using your phone to run a supercomputer or as a replacement for your Playstation 3, there is literally no reason in the world why it makes a difference how much RAM there is and the processor power.
What matters is how well optimised the core system is, which in the case of WP7 is exceptionally well, meaning it'll run on next to nothing, whereas Android is hideously badly optimised meaning it needs a supercomputer to run slightly reliably.
eng_bobbo said:
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which OS is better windows mobile or Android
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windows mobile is dead. it's called windows phone seven point five now. mouthful ?
browse the forum about what windows phone seven point five can and cannot do at this point. the list is lengthy on both sides. the easiest bet is iPhone, but since you didn't ask, i won't suggest it.
u guys think that it will be a good choice for me or not ?
This is an Android forum and more importantly an Android phone...what do you think people are going to tell you? Haha j/k
If it was apps you were worried about Android Market will probably overtake App Store in a year or two so I'd say go for it
It's personal preference but I'm sure you definitely wouldn't regret it. You seen Ice Cream Sandwich?!?! Daymmmm!
Yes, it will be a good choice.
Imagine the screen size only, that's enough to laugh about iPhone 4S tiny screen
x.Orville.x said:
u guys think that it will be a good choice for me or not ?
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yea i know i the iphone 4s screen a little tiny calculator lol just selling mi 4s to get the nexus
From 4S to Galaxy Nexus.....it a huge jump. I would start with Nexus S first.
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I went from the iphone to the SGS2 and it didn't work for me I was told to try a pure google phone for what my needs were, I have not bought it yet as I'm waiting to see if it's going to be recalled or maybe get a phone from a fresh batch, the apps are somewhat different then on an iphone for an example is the pandora app for say if you turn it landscape you won't get the playlist you listened to during your secion(like you can't look back and see what you listen to and see all the album covers, some apps are better in android then on the iphone some I prefer some I don't JAMOP ,
justabrake said:
I went from the iphone to the SGS2 and it didn't work for me I was told to try a pure google phone for what my needs were, I have not bought it yet as I'm waiting to see if it's going to be recalled or maybe get a phone from a fresh batch, the apps are somewhat different then on an iphone for an example is the pandora app for say if you turn it landscape you won't get the playlist you listened to during your secion(like you can't look back and see what you listen to and see all the album covers, some apps are better in android then on the iphone some I prefer some I don't JAMOP ,
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Dude. Use a period or two.
The iPhone is the top-of-the-line iOS device while the Nexus is the same for Android. The 4S won't have a successor for at least 6 months, while the Nexus could easily cruise a year. That being said, both will be outspecced pretty quickly by quadcore Android phones. Try the Nexus out, IceCreamSandwich is the main feature, as is the HD screen. If you don't like it, go back to the 4S, or wait for some new Android phones. The 4S and Nexus are almost on par in terms of hardware, and are both flagship devices. Either one is a great choice, just depends on your UI preference.
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I try to jump to a gs2 last summer but i dont liked and switched back to ios u guys think that the nexus will be outdated in a 3 or 4 months ? That's my main reason to get to phone when the gs3 come will be outdated or not ?
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We can't make that decision for you !, I didn't like the SGS2 because of the OS matched up with the hardware, The hardware is all there but it doesn't really work together with it's OS, It's not like how apple puts together their phone everything works like a well oiled machine, it's just not there for some reason, it's all a matter of how one notices it. This is my opinion and I'm hopping for a better phone experience this time around with google as the hardware picker and maker of there OS ICS and definitely not samsung the plastiqek phone maker, I would have liked LG or HTC make it. JMO like it or not
I just made the jump from iOS (3Gs, 4, 4s) to an SGSII, and it will be hard to go back, for me. Customization and larger screens were my main reason for jumping, and I haven't been disappointed. iOS still wins for the ecosystem and interoperability elegance, but I am happy with my choice.
On a side note, my SGSII is going back (bought an unlocked Nexus S) because like the 4s, it is not compelling enough to use my upgrade on for two years. I'll see what comes out in 2012 for an upgrade.
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I just made the jump from iOS (3Gs, 4, 4s) to an SGSII, and it will be hard to go back, for me. Customization and larger screens were my main reason for jumping, and I haven't been disappointed. iOS still wins for the ecosystem and interoperability elegance, but I am happy with my choice.
On a side note, my SGSII is going back (bought an unlocked Nexus S) because like the 4s, it is not compelling enough to use my upgrade on for two years. I'll see what comes out in 2012 for an upgrade.
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I'm buying this nexus outright and saved my upgrade for the iphone 5, I want the iphone 5 early shipped to me.
If you like to customize and do things like put ROMS, kernels, over clocking and such.
Android is now the way to go.......maybe in the past it was iOS but now they are pretty even.
Android is a lot better now especially with ICS....at least they finally decided to implement hardware acceleration -.- which is what iOS did since the beginning making it feel so much more fluid than android.
Anyways, if you sell your iPhone 4s, i would say get the GSII and save a few hundred bucks, especially since the Galaxy Nexus is costing more than the iPhone 4s even sells for. Then use that money when the GSIII or iPhone 5 come out.
I have both the iPhone 4S and Galaxy Nexus.
The iPhone 4S has superior build quality, camera and video recording, games, and vastly superior battery life.
The Galaxy Nexus has the best display I've ever seen, even better than Retina IMO! I can't believe people are bashing Super AMOLED HD or saying Retina is still way better. I have no complaints about the screen, its jaw dropping. Android 4.0 is the best OS out IMO as well. IOS 5 is cool and all, but I can't help but feel that Apple isn't innovating as fast as they should. Google literally redesigned and improved every aspect of Android in one update. In these past 4 years iOS looks nearly identical to how it did when it first launched, as well as many of the stock Apple apps. Every Google app got a giant facelift and improvement: YouTube, Gmail, Google Maps etc. And they look beautiful on this screen. The phone is pretty big overall but I'm getting used to it and its awesome. Performance is very good as well.
I've had the phone for roughly half a day and battery doesn't seem that good yet but I'll reserve judgment for a few more days.
I honestly can't believe Google improved Android this much in just one update. Its amazing.
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I agree. People dog the 4/4s because they will shatter, but the build quality and materials are excellent. It doesn't feel cheap.
I liked the SGSII, initially, but it has always felt cheap and the big screen has terrible resolution. I realized that Android was what would keep me here. I'm looking forward to some premium look and feel Android devices to match the potential of Android OS.
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Just sell my 4s on ebay 588$ for it 16 gb ordering through expansys this week
x.Orville.x said:
I try to jump to a gs2 last summer but i dont liked and switched back to ios u guys think that the nexus will be outdated in a 3 or 4 months ? That's my main reason to get to phone when the gs3 come will be outdated or not ?
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In the smartphone game EVERY phone that comes out is eclipsed in 3-4 months as far as specs are concerned, that's just the nature of the beast now. The thing about the iPhone and the Nexus phones are that there is only one device made every year despite all the other ones that come out with newer faster hardware or whathaveyou. The Nexus phones were designed to have hardware and software work hand in hand more so than any other Android phone. Both of the previous Nexus devices are the only ones running 2.3.6 (to my knowledge - and the NS4G has 2.3.7) which is one update ahead of everyone else - brand new phones are being launched with 2.3.5. If you're gonna make the jump, you're going to want the pure Google experience.
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In the smartphone game EVERY phone that comes out is eclipsed in 3-4 months as far as specs are concerned, that's just the nature of the beast now. The thing about the iPhone and the Nexus phones are that there is only one device made every year despite all the other ones that come out with newer faster hardware or whathaveyou. The Nexus phones were designed to have hardware and software work hand in hand more so than any other Android phone. Both of the previous Nexus devices are the only ones running 2.3.6 (to my knowledge - and the NS4G has 2.3.7) which is one update ahead of everyone else - brand new phones are being launched with 2.3.5. If you're gonna make the jump, you're going to want the pure Google experience.
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The SG2 has been out for 7 months and is still one of the most powerful smartphones out there in terms of hardware.
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The SG2 has been out for 7 months and is still one of the most powerful smartphones out there in terms of hardware.
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I was going to say that LOL but he's also mentioning a phone that come out once a year samsung puts out phones ever three months
That's because of the timing it launched in. With 4 cores around the corner things will change fast .
But I have to say this to OP, me personally I have no desires to go into contest of who has the longer piss, what matters to me is the user experience, as long as it is smooth and fast I don't care about hardware much as long as it would support the latest software. Because overtime all the wow effect will diminish and you'll be left with the software.
I would change from the iPhone to anything just because of the tiny screen.
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That's because of the timing it launched in. With 4 cores around the corner things will change fast .
But I have to say this to OP, me personally I have no desires to go into contest of who has the longer piss, what matters to me is the user experience, as long as it is smooth and fast I don't care about hardware much as long as it would support the latest software. Because overtime all the wow effect will diminish and you'll be left with the software.
I would change from the iPhone to anything just because of the tiny screen.
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I left apple because iphone 4s wasn't an upgrade to me, I also wanted to try something different in life because I had the 2G 3G 3Gs 4 and wanted to see what else is out their and like I said the SGS2 was not for me and I would have turned back if someone didn't say give the google phone a try ( because of what I wanted in a phone ) So here I am waiting to purchase soon, just waiting for the first update and for the second batch to appear
from what I read on iclarified they said (speculation of course ) apple is working on a 4" phone That would be good and I hope they make both because a lot of people like using one hand when surfing and the iphone is great for that in size
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=18327
There are Android tablets and the iPads, are there tablets on the market running WP7?
No, microsoft products go on things called 'slates', which have existed long before tablets and the iPad, but are always better. Even the older slates are better than modern tablet...
But they cost a pretty penny. You won't find one for less than $1,000
They run full blown Windows 7.
Soon they'll run Windows 8
There will never be a WP7 tablet.
you mean something like Samsung series 7?
what you are looking at is windows 8, those will be the tablets with the metro interface(aka wp interface)
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No, microsoft products go on things called 'slates', which have existed long before tablets and the iPad, but are always better. Even the older slates are better than modern tablet...
But they cost a pretty penny. You won't find one for less than $1,000
They run full blown Windows 7.
Soon they'll run Windows 8
There will never be a WP7 tablet.
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I completely disagree.
I tried one out a few weeks ago. Couldn't even get the fershlugginer keyboard to stay up. I'd click on a type area... it would freeze first of all.. then the keyboard would pop up. As soon as I went to touch it, it would disappear.
After about 4 minutes of this, I slowly put it down, walked away, and will never touch another Windows 'slate'.
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I completely disagree.
I tried one out a few weeks ago. Couldn't even get the fershlugginer keyboard to stay up. I'd click on a type area... it would freeze first of all.. then the keyboard would pop up. As soon as I went to touch it, it would disappear.
After about 4 minutes of this, I slowly put it down, walked away, and will never touch another Windows 'slate'.
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so you had one bad experience with a particular slate, and you will never touch another Windows slate? Blaming everything on the OS?
I'm using a Windows 8 in my laptop (without touch screen), and I think, it is very fast.
But if we put WP7 on tablet... uhh, bizarre
Supposedly Nokia and some Chinese companies are racing to make $200.00 tablets that run Windows 8 by mid or late this year.
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No, microsoft products go on things called 'slates', which have existed long before tablets and the iPad, but are always better. Even the older slates are better than modern tablet...
But they cost a pretty penny. You won't find one for less than $1,000
They run full blown Windows 7.
Soon they'll run Windows 8
There will never be a WP7 tablet.
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I've read so many claims that windows 7 on tablets is superior to ipad/android its deafening. The problem is, I've never seen one being used as a tablet, or being used period, other than in stores. Never met one person that has liked w7 on a tablet, but the internet is full of gushing reviews. Weird.
i for one don't care for 800x480 stretched over a 7" screen.
I've got a leno multitouch netbook running the developer edition (pre beta here guys) of windows 8 and it runs awesome. Even snappier then windows 7 on it. The netbook by no means has stellar specs either. Its similar to but definitely not identical to the wp7 interface. When I bring it out in public though I get a lot of interested people asking questions as they see me swiping the metro interface back and forth to open applications.
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I've got a Samsung Series 7 Slate and I'm loving it so far. Its fairly powerful, and the form factor is fantastic. I set up a separate partition and loaded up Windows 8 on it. Windows 8 works very well on a tablet. Its very responsive and intuitive. It does crash occasionally but what do you expect for a beta build.
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Hm...very interesting and very funny idea.
I'll try it gladly, but my laptop's scrreen resolution is only xX768 :crying:
But I am happy with Windows 8 :good:
Okay, so it's not gone but the half hour I was forced to spend with android was miserable. Today, despite my better suggestions, my cousin bought a GN. He's not much of a techie, so he asked me to flash android revolution onto his device. Okay, rom-flashing, I used to be an addict. I took his phone, tinkered around, and physically cringed at the sight of the lag. I struggled past my initial disgust, I mean I had to attempt to improve the mess he got himself into. So, I get on the comp, download the files, and realize just how tedious all of this is. I do everything, get it flashed, hand it back to him. I don't care to see it, I feel violated enough having done that. I had to preserve the sanctity of my smartphone integrity. He takes it back and is in awe, so, he shows me how much faster it is. I suppose that I'm spoiled by quality, but it seemed slow even then. Hardly any smoother. I mean, I honestly think the first Gen trophy would have been better, he said the rep told them they haven't carried a windows phone in 3 years. Verizon really needs some better options, I hastily rushed back to the warm confines of my functional OS with suggestions to just utilize buyers remorse and pick up a focus S, a noteworthy upgrade. After using my WP7 before he was sold, but ATT sucks in his region.
I have the same experience from a slightly different angle. I am a big wp7 fan and currently tote an HTC titan which I love. I also had an ipad, my sister had a Motorola XOOM, she is a big fan of apple stuff so suggested we swap tablets, I agreed and am now the proud(?) Owner of a XOOM, and the thing drives me nuts, it lags, the browsing experience is laggy and horrible, the keyboard lags in the browser the interface is messy, I loathe the bloody thing but my sister will not swap back. People keep telling me I should flash the latest nightly eos ics version on my XOOM, but I run my own 24/7 business and don't have enough hours in the day to spend mucking about with something that should not deliver this sort of experience out of the box. On the upside, it supports flash so it is good for the bbc player, for everything else, I use my titan.
I find the OP a bit too convenient, I've used a GN and it was a great experience. I have no idea why you would want to flash that phone!
Now if this was the Verizon GN then it's no secret that this is Verizon's doing, you can read about it on any tech website. So in that case the mistake would be investing in anything other than the unlock GN, nothing to do with the actual "real" device or ICS.
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@adesonic I suggest you swap back the tablets in her sleep. WP is great but as far as tablets go, there's the iPad and the rest. I'm not even sure ICS on the Xoom would make it that much better.
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Honestly, i know exactly how refreshing it is to use a WP7 device coming from months of nerd raging, flashing and all sort of sufferings. Now i'm a 24/7 WP7 user and i feel fine with this, BUT: don't you ever phisically cringe whenever you have to plug your phone to a pc just in order to sideload an app? Ok, you shouldn't need that often, but what about multitasking? Don't you ever phisically cringe when you, for example, are using both the XDA App (painful to use on WP7 to say the least) and the browser, and when switching between the two you have to stare for a few seconds at a black loading screen before the XDA App reloads, generally wiping the text you just typed? What about having to pay in order to have a decent YouTube app on your phone? What about having to pay in order to have a decent gps navigation experience (unless you're on a Nokia device)? Both worlds are painful at some extent. Right now for my kind of usage it's way less painful to use a WP7 device, but you cannot expect that every single user will feel the same: we all have different needs.
On a side note, guess what kind of users are generally browsing XDA right now? I'll better take cover before another troll war starts rocking the topic...
Android's for customizing and hacking... out of the box, it's colorful bull****. If I would have to use TouchWiz or that LG-UI everyday, it would drive me insane!
I have a Samsung Omnia 7 (Stock ofc, but with some hacks e.g. tethering) , Samsung Galaxy SII (MIUI) and an Asus Eee Pad Transformer (revolver ROM). The device I use regularly is, as you might be able to guess, the Omnia 7.
The Transformer is only used as an E-Reader and for Movies (but it does that quite good!), the Galaxy SII is for flashing around and customizing. Not even music or anything on it, call me crazy
And my Windows Phone, well thats to actually get the work done.
Again the GN is pure android out of the box (unless it's from Verizon) and it works great. Since that's the phone mentioned in the OP I have to defend it. I would still rather buy a Lumia 900 or Focus S if they were sold in Europe but I can recognise ICS as a great OS.
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Okay, so it's not gone but the half hour I was forced to spend with android was miserable. Today, despite my better suggestions, my cousin bought a GN. He's not much of a techie, so he asked me to flash android revolution onto his device. Okay, rom-flashing, I used to be an addict. I took his phone, tinkered around, and physically cringed at the sight of the lag. I struggled past my initial disgust, I mean I had to attempt to improve the mess he got himself into. So, I get on the comp, download the files, and realize just how tedious all of this is. I do everything, get it flashed, hand it back to him. I don't care to see it, I feel violated enough having done that. I had to preserve the sanctity of my smartphone integrity. He takes it back and is in awe, so, he shows me how much faster it is. I suppose that I'm spoiled by quality, but it seemed slow even then. Hardly any smoother. I mean, I honestly think the first Gen trophy would have been better, he said the rep told them they haven't carried a windows phone in 3 years. Verizon really needs some better options, I hastily rushed back to the warm confines of my functional OS with suggestions to just utilize buyers remorse and pick up a focus S, a noteworthy upgrade. After using my WP7 before he was sold, but ATT sucks in his region.
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What is a "GN" ? Did he also sign a contract for a piece of hardware, or can he use whatever he finds on craigslist with his carrier ?
Apparently there are wp devices being sold, I see one or two a week on my local craigslist.
How convenient, Zee can't answer his lies in the Q&A forum, so he comes here for confirmations.
Smh, i tested my Nexus S against a Focus S, and my Nexus S running stock ICS not modded in anyway was smoother at everything. Shocking! ICS is really astonishing.
Also the 720p display on the GN is forcing the GPU to work 2.4x harder.
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I've seen a lot of reviews of gn and haven't seen any lag. Are you sure it was the Samsung galaxy nexus ?
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I've seen a lot of reviews of gn and haven't seen any lag. Are you sure it was the Samsung galaxy nexus ?
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http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/16/galaxy-nexus-users-plagued-by-random-reboots/
This was posted 6 minutes before your post.
A lot of people don't mention the GN's lag because they're comparing it to other android phones. 3 or 4 years in and google still can't create a gpu accelerated UI? Tragic.
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How convenient, Zee can't answer his lies in the Q&A forum, so he comes here for confirmations.
Smh, i tested my Nexus S against a Focus S, and my Nexus S running stock ICS not modded in anyway was smoother at everything. Shocking! ICS is really astonishing.
Also the 720p display on the GN is forcing the GPU to work 2.4x harder.
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Focus S against Nexus S? kidding me?
Do a Nexus S vs Titan.
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Focus S against Nexus S? kidding me?
Do a Nexus S vs Titan.
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He also mentioned android's new hardware accelerated UI in the other thread -_-... At the rate they're going, that'll be coming around when they're running through the alphabet for names a second time.
The Galaxy Nexus is amazing. Its smooth and the UI is incredible. I absolutely love the face that it has soft.buttons, and they made multitasking amazing in it.
But I cannot use a phone that big, ever. Its truly huge. Also the camera leaves something to be desired.
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Focus S against Nexus S? kidding me?
Do a Nexus S vs Titan.
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Does that really matter? I don't think that the additional 100 MHz packed by the Titan would matter that much. Anyway, be it smooth or not in the UI, it's quite sure the Nexus S won't be as consistent as a WP7 device (regardless the hardware) in terms of smoothness throughout all the OS and especially when using third party apps.
Answer Android UI is hardware accelerates. Why does Z need to tell Android shards to validate his choice of Windows Phone?
Polly gonna go in carrier stores play more tomorrow abduction thwarting Windows probes are thwarting only ones I'm sure I won't touch because if you have a first gen device there's almost no reason ti buy a new one anyways.
Played with all the AT&T new Windows phones. They didn't incite or when interest me.
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The OP is talking about lags and having to root to make it better, your post is about the size and camera....troll much?
EDIT: he changed his post right quick!
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Answer Android UI is hardware accelerates. Why does Z need to tell Android shards to validate his choice of Windows Phone?
Polly gonna go in carrier stores play more tomorrow abduction thwarting Windows probes are thwarting only ones I'm sure I won't touch because if you have a first gen device there's almost no reason ti buy a new one anyways.
Played with all the AT&T new Windows phones. They didn't incite or when interest me.
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Even most android fanboys aren't lying about the addition of hardware acceleration.
While I'm happy with my Lumia 800 and focus flash (titan broke, damn HTC and their crappy build quality) perhaps you should wait for the lumia 900. I wish I could've gotten some hands on time with that marvel of cellular technology at CES.
It is hardware accellerated. Stop living in 2010.
The UI latency you keep bringing up is invisible to most consumers and really, I didn't notice it when I spent over an hour in every carrier store Saturday morning/afternoon and played with the Galaxy Nexus. The UI is amazing, and it's smooth as hell. It also has 32GB internal storage and treats it the same as WP7 and iOS (everything on the same storage, no more small App partitions). It's an amazing device. I just think it's too damn big. Updates come way faster to the Galaxy Nexus than to any Windows Phone. With Android having a good UI now, I'm actually considering getting that device (I had sort of sworn off of it after the Vibrant, which is why I got the HD7). Android 4.0 has Native MTP support as well, which negates the need for USB MS as the device can sync natively to Windows Media Player (Music, Podcasts, Pictures, Video) - something not even WP7 can do (needs a redundant app for that). That has always been a negative for Android, but it's gone now...
The Lumia 900 will have the same crappy hardware as basically every other Mango device, it will just be huge, use a now "getting kind of old/overused" design, and have LTE - which isn't even available to most people here (so waste battery life for a capability that isn't possible to use, thanks but no thanks). It will even still have a WVGA resolution in a qHD and (becoming) 720p world, which looked terrible as all hell on the Titan screen when I played with it (made the Focus Flash screen look like a Retina Display by comparison).
The main issue is the OS, the device builds are not top notch but that's a different beast. The OS has grown boring to me, and I will be forced to carry 3 devices if I continue to use WP7. That's become unacceptable to me. I'm going to another platform so I can either use one device (if iPhone, I can ditch my iTouch and Android phone) or two (if Android, then I can carry my Android device and my tiny iPod Touch) instead of the situation I'm in now. I'm leaning towards iPhone, because of iMessage, FaceTime, and the fact that 80% of the people I know use iPhones now.
And yes, HTC is notorious for their crappy build quality. The only value they bought to Android was Sense, back when the Android UI was TRULY terrible. Other than that, their devices aren't anything to write home about.
The only area of pause with the Galaxy Nexus is the Camera and lack of a Camera Shutter button.
T-Mobile 3G here is giving me edge speeds with a full 3G signal, so I need to switch carriers next month when I switch phones, as well. I'm tired of their terrible network. Went home for a week last week and couldn't even make a call 90% of the time, or send a text. Had almost no reception. They should have let AT&T buy them.
basically ive always been an ios guy and for xmas my gf bought me a nexus 7 and i fell in love with everything i could do with it ! so i decided to hell with my iphone5 ima get a optimus g thinking it would be just as easy to flash roms and make my own. Boy was i wrong =[ . ya the optimus g was fastttt like i mean fast the Gnex isnt even close but seriously it was still on 4.0.4 lol just barley got 4.1 not to mention the only quality rom it has was something that came out only a week ago for it and its cm10.1 .that said cm10.1 had no camera no gps and could mess up your EFS lol yet it was still my DD cause their simply wasnt anything else. After being fed up and realizing that if it took this long to get 4.1 imagine 4.2 or even 5.0 ! so i sold my optimus g bought a Gnex and made 200$ in the process and couldnt be happier! ya this is a muccch slower phone but i love all the great DEVs all the great roms and def vinilla android and getting updates much quicker than a normal android device .. Never a non nexus for me...
well ya just wanted to add my 2 cents and share my expierence
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is it me or is anyone else noticing a shift of people switching from ios to android as opposed to pre-ics when it was more android to ios switchers. and im talking general public people not modders and rommers.
andrewlax120 said:
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is it me or is anyone else noticing a shift of people switching from ios to android as opposed to pre-ics when it was more android to ios switchers. and im talking general public people not modders and rommers.
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I think the timing coincides with the lack of major changes that the ios had gone through in comparison to the leaps and bounds that Android is ahead of the game.
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And price is another major factor. More people realize that iphones are simply overpriced. Why should you pay 30-40 percent more for slightly smoother scrolling and more fluid transitions. Today OEMs offer comparable or even better user experience (cmon screen at a good smartphone should be at least 4,3") for significantly lower price.
chefthomas99 said:
I think the timing coincides with the lack of major changes that the ios had gone through in comparison to the leaps and bounds that Android is ahead of the game
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This is the main reason to be honest.. price isn't the issue at all... Lack of innovation changes to their os and their closed system lacking the ability to download applications/music/games/movies online or anywhere outside the app store
That's one of the most important factors indeed, but remember that we talk also about brand loyalty, which in case of apple products/users is usually huge. If the price was comparable I don't think apple wouldn't lose that much of market share at relatively short time.
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basically ive always been an ios guy and for xmas my gf bought me a nexus 7 and i fell in love with everything i could do with it ! so i decided to hell with my iphone5 ima get a optimus g thinking it would be just as easy to flash roms and make my own. Boy was i wrong =[ . ya the optimus g was fastttt like i mean fast the Gnex isnt even close but seriously it was still on 4.0.4 lol just barley got 4.1 not to mention the only quality rom it has was something that came out only a week ago for it and its cm10.1 .that said cm10.1 had no camera no gps and could mess up your EFS lol yet it was still my DD cause their simply wasnt anything else. After being fed up and realizing that if it took this long to get 4.1 imagine 4.2 or even 5.0 ! so i sold my optimus g bought a Gnex and made 200$ in the process and couldnt be happier! ya this is a muccch slower phone but i love all the great DEVs all the great roms and def vinilla android and getting updates much quicker than a normal android device .. Never a non nexus for me...
well ya just wanted to add my 2 cents and share my expierence
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I have both(gnex/lgog) and I agree. although I wouldn't say it slow I can get it to get almost 5000 quadrant scores and my optimus it's almost 8000 both are fast. I think my EFS is shot although I'm not worried about it because I don't even pay my bill I use wifi . My sprint gnex is so much fun. I am a flash a holic and flash 2 rounds today although my daily driver is the craziest most Tweakable ROM on the planet.JBSOURCERY . Nothing comes close. like I said cm 10.1 borKed to my EFS although I might just go back to it because it has the T Mobile female GYN and you have the Nexus so you know what that is. I'm all nexus from now on. The n5 lg megladon will be the shi+
As the OP said, his GF bought him a Nexus 7 for Christmas so he played with it and realized Androids potential. If she had not bought it for him, would he ever have switched? The poster who mentioned brand loyalty I think was right. The Apple fans I know wouldn't even consider switching even though they've never as much as held an Android device. I agree that as Android phones become more mainstream and Apple continues on its current path we'll see more and more switching over.
Sadly though, recently I had a painter working here and he heard me tell my Nexus to remind me to call someone at 3. The painter said, "isn't siri great". Most Apple fans don't have any idea what's really going on now.
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I went from iOS to Android a few years ago (iPhone 3S -> HTC Thunderbolt) which was back when Android definitely wasn't as polished as it is today (which at that time iOS was already fairly mature and polished in comparison to Android). The 3S was the first smart phone I had ever owned but I remember getting so much crap from friends and family saying how iOS is so much better and how it was such a bad move to switch to Android. Keep in my mind most of my family has drank the Apple kool-aid so the majority of my family members own an iPhone and/or iPad (brothers, sister, mom, aunts, uncles, etc) so I would hear the typical arguments against Android all the time:
-Not nearly as many apps compared to iOS
-Android crashes a lot and is buggy/slow/laggy, etc.
-Android phones are cheap and break easy
-Music / media management isn't as good as iTunes
-Horrible battery life
-and on and on and on
While some of the arguments may have been at least somewhat valid at the time, what I find interesting is that I still hear some of these 3+ year old arguments against Android today which are in no way shape or form still valid. What it boils down to is ignorance and people not knowing what they are talking about. Many people that I have argued with over this topic have never even owned an Android device, their first smart phone was an iPhone and that is all they have ever known. Or if they did own an Android it was 3-4 years ago and had a bad experience with it.
My favorite argument I have heard recently was about Siri vs. Google voice search. I have had multiple iOS people tell me that Google voice search simply does a Google search and returns a list of web sites that might contain the answer to whatever you asked. They think it just points you to a website it doesn't actually display the information or anything. I proceed to pull out my gNex and ask how many gallons are in a liter or whatever and boom rub it in their face.
jordache16 said:
-Not nearly as many apps compared to iOS
-Android crashes a lot and is buggy/slow/laggy, etc.
-Android phones are cheap and break easy
-Music / media management isn't as good as iTunes
-Horrible battery life
-and on and on and on
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As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
WiredPirate said:
As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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The Galaxy S4 battery life tests are in at gsmarena.com and they look quite promising, but it does have a rather large 2400mah battery - if the device is still thin though who cares.
I've always wondered how Apple was able to make the iphone so battery efficient in web browsing - I think gsmarena.com scored it at 9hrs and our nexus gets like 3-4hrs LOL. I'm not sure if that was done pre-JB days or not, and it would be interesting to see the results with a custom rom/kernel and some underclocking.
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The Galaxy S4 battery life tests are in at gsmarena.com and they look quite promising, but it does have a rather large 2400mah battery - if the device is still thin though who cares.
I've always wondered how Apple was able to make the iphone so battery efficient in web browsing - I think gsmarena.com scored it at 9hrs and our nexus gets like 3-4hrs LOL. I'm not sure if that was done pre-JB days or not, and it would be interesting to see the results with a custom rom/kernel and some underclocking.
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Sweet, that should get even better when we trade TouchWiz for AOSP. :good:
Personally I don't care how thin or thick the phone is, it's going in a case the minute it comes out of it's box. I'll pay extra for a phone three times as thick with twice the battery.
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As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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That makes sense because :
1) Apple controls hardware & software, so they made sure the all components are good and the system is optimized. Easier to do it on limited set of hw.
2) Android can run services in the bg, while there are no such thing in userspace on iOS. Obviously, less power usage, but also less potential functionality.
madd0g said:
That makes sense because :
1) Apple controls hardware & software, so they made sure the all components are good and the system is optimized. Easier to do it on limited set of hw.
2) Android can run services in the bg, while there are no such thing in userspace on iOS. Obviously, less power usage, but also less potential functionality.
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Oh absolutely. I agree there is a well and good reason why Android consumes more power than Apple. The problem is a larger battery is required and rarely offered in a way that the consumer would actually want.
Its like one of those "we need an idea" memes where they double everything on the phone every year: screen size, processors, graphics, speed, half as thin! And then they throw the same old battery they have been using for years in there.
I agree, so far we've seen, only Motorola has actually done anything about it with the Razor MAXX, at least without making a huge phone instead. I'm looking forward to see if they'll deliver something in that area in the future, current pushing of "cores and mpix" doesn't impress me at all.
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WiredPirate said:
As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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Depends on the phone. I get 5 to 6 hours screen on time on my s3.
Much better than my friends iPhone 5
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I agree, so far we've seen, only Motorola has actually done anything about it with the Razor MAXX, at least without making a huge phone instead. I'm looking forward to see if they'll deliver something in that area in the future, current pushing of "cores and mpix" doesn't impress me at all.
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Yes! That is exactly what I am talking about. Its great that new phones have 27 cores and all that, but useless when the phone dies in just a few hours. I have high hopes that the "maxx" type batteries carry over to all Android devices, and last year would have been past time for that.
crixley said:
Depends on the phone. I get 5 to 6 hours screen on time on my s3.
Much better than my friends iPhone 5
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There are allot of unmentioned factors, apps syncing etc, and those make a huge difference. It's hard for me to accept your conclusion as valid. And of course we all know pics or it didn't happen.
My Mom, Dad, brother and sister all have iP5s, and I have the iPad3, my experience with these devices differ greatly from what you have stated above. I don't think you are intentionally spreading misinformation, but your vague statement about your friends iPhone does not match up with the long term experiences I have had with multiple Apple mobile devices.
My work just issued iPhone 4s to me. Think battery life is about the same as my galaxy nexus with 2100ma battery. I can't stand having to go back to home then settings just to change something simple in my email that should be in email not ios settings. Day 2 tomorrow will see for sure on battery but can't really use it like my own since they monitor it.
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