basically ive always been an ios guy and for xmas my gf bought me a nexus 7 and i fell in love with everything i could do with it ! so i decided to hell with my iphone5 ima get a optimus g thinking it would be just as easy to flash roms and make my own. Boy was i wrong =[ . ya the optimus g was fastttt like i mean fast the Gnex isnt even close but seriously it was still on 4.0.4 lol just barley got 4.1 not to mention the only quality rom it has was something that came out only a week ago for it and its cm10.1 .that said cm10.1 had no camera no gps and could mess up your EFS lol yet it was still my DD cause their simply wasnt anything else. After being fed up and realizing that if it took this long to get 4.1 imagine 4.2 or even 5.0 ! so i sold my optimus g bought a Gnex and made 200$ in the process and couldnt be happier! ya this is a muccch slower phone but i love all the great DEVs all the great roms and def vinilla android and getting updates much quicker than a normal android device .. Never a non nexus for me...
well ya just wanted to add my 2 cents and share my expierence
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is it me or is anyone else noticing a shift of people switching from ios to android as opposed to pre-ics when it was more android to ios switchers. and im talking general public people not modders and rommers.
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is it me or is anyone else noticing a shift of people switching from ios to android as opposed to pre-ics when it was more android to ios switchers. and im talking general public people not modders and rommers.
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I think the timing coincides with the lack of major changes that the ios had gone through in comparison to the leaps and bounds that Android is ahead of the game.
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And price is another major factor. More people realize that iphones are simply overpriced. Why should you pay 30-40 percent more for slightly smoother scrolling and more fluid transitions. Today OEMs offer comparable or even better user experience (cmon screen at a good smartphone should be at least 4,3") for significantly lower price.
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I think the timing coincides with the lack of major changes that the ios had gone through in comparison to the leaps and bounds that Android is ahead of the game
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This is the main reason to be honest.. price isn't the issue at all... Lack of innovation changes to their os and their closed system lacking the ability to download applications/music/games/movies online or anywhere outside the app store
That's one of the most important factors indeed, but remember that we talk also about brand loyalty, which in case of apple products/users is usually huge. If the price was comparable I don't think apple wouldn't lose that much of market share at relatively short time.
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basically ive always been an ios guy and for xmas my gf bought me a nexus 7 and i fell in love with everything i could do with it ! so i decided to hell with my iphone5 ima get a optimus g thinking it would be just as easy to flash roms and make my own. Boy was i wrong =[ . ya the optimus g was fastttt like i mean fast the Gnex isnt even close but seriously it was still on 4.0.4 lol just barley got 4.1 not to mention the only quality rom it has was something that came out only a week ago for it and its cm10.1 .that said cm10.1 had no camera no gps and could mess up your EFS lol yet it was still my DD cause their simply wasnt anything else. After being fed up and realizing that if it took this long to get 4.1 imagine 4.2 or even 5.0 ! so i sold my optimus g bought a Gnex and made 200$ in the process and couldnt be happier! ya this is a muccch slower phone but i love all the great DEVs all the great roms and def vinilla android and getting updates much quicker than a normal android device .. Never a non nexus for me...
well ya just wanted to add my 2 cents and share my expierence
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I have both(gnex/lgog) and I agree. although I wouldn't say it slow I can get it to get almost 5000 quadrant scores and my optimus it's almost 8000 both are fast. I think my EFS is shot although I'm not worried about it because I don't even pay my bill I use wifi . My sprint gnex is so much fun. I am a flash a holic and flash 2 rounds today although my daily driver is the craziest most Tweakable ROM on the planet.JBSOURCERY . Nothing comes close. like I said cm 10.1 borKed to my EFS although I might just go back to it because it has the T Mobile female GYN and you have the Nexus so you know what that is. I'm all nexus from now on. The n5 lg megladon will be the shi+
As the OP said, his GF bought him a Nexus 7 for Christmas so he played with it and realized Androids potential. If she had not bought it for him, would he ever have switched? The poster who mentioned brand loyalty I think was right. The Apple fans I know wouldn't even consider switching even though they've never as much as held an Android device. I agree that as Android phones become more mainstream and Apple continues on its current path we'll see more and more switching over.
Sadly though, recently I had a painter working here and he heard me tell my Nexus to remind me to call someone at 3. The painter said, "isn't siri great". Most Apple fans don't have any idea what's really going on now.
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I went from iOS to Android a few years ago (iPhone 3S -> HTC Thunderbolt) which was back when Android definitely wasn't as polished as it is today (which at that time iOS was already fairly mature and polished in comparison to Android). The 3S was the first smart phone I had ever owned but I remember getting so much crap from friends and family saying how iOS is so much better and how it was such a bad move to switch to Android. Keep in my mind most of my family has drank the Apple kool-aid so the majority of my family members own an iPhone and/or iPad (brothers, sister, mom, aunts, uncles, etc) so I would hear the typical arguments against Android all the time:
-Not nearly as many apps compared to iOS
-Android crashes a lot and is buggy/slow/laggy, etc.
-Android phones are cheap and break easy
-Music / media management isn't as good as iTunes
-Horrible battery life
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While some of the arguments may have been at least somewhat valid at the time, what I find interesting is that I still hear some of these 3+ year old arguments against Android today which are in no way shape or form still valid. What it boils down to is ignorance and people not knowing what they are talking about. Many people that I have argued with over this topic have never even owned an Android device, their first smart phone was an iPhone and that is all they have ever known. Or if they did own an Android it was 3-4 years ago and had a bad experience with it.
My favorite argument I have heard recently was about Siri vs. Google voice search. I have had multiple iOS people tell me that Google voice search simply does a Google search and returns a list of web sites that might contain the answer to whatever you asked. They think it just points you to a website it doesn't actually display the information or anything. I proceed to pull out my gNex and ask how many gallons are in a liter or whatever and boom rub it in their face.
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-Not nearly as many apps compared to iOS
-Android crashes a lot and is buggy/slow/laggy, etc.
-Android phones are cheap and break easy
-Music / media management isn't as good as iTunes
-Horrible battery life
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As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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The Galaxy S4 battery life tests are in at gsmarena.com and they look quite promising, but it does have a rather large 2400mah battery - if the device is still thin though who cares.
I've always wondered how Apple was able to make the iphone so battery efficient in web browsing - I think gsmarena.com scored it at 9hrs and our nexus gets like 3-4hrs LOL. I'm not sure if that was done pre-JB days or not, and it would be interesting to see the results with a custom rom/kernel and some underclocking.
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The Galaxy S4 battery life tests are in at gsmarena.com and they look quite promising, but it does have a rather large 2400mah battery - if the device is still thin though who cares.
I've always wondered how Apple was able to make the iphone so battery efficient in web browsing - I think gsmarena.com scored it at 9hrs and our nexus gets like 3-4hrs LOL. I'm not sure if that was done pre-JB days or not, and it would be interesting to see the results with a custom rom/kernel and some underclocking.
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Sweet, that should get even better when we trade TouchWiz for AOSP. :good:
Personally I don't care how thin or thick the phone is, it's going in a case the minute it comes out of it's box. I'll pay extra for a phone three times as thick with twice the battery.
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As a daily user of both iOS & Android, I can with out a doubt say that the battery life thing still applies. My biggest gripe with Android.
You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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That makes sense because :
1) Apple controls hardware & software, so they made sure the all components are good and the system is optimized. Easier to do it on limited set of hw.
2) Android can run services in the bg, while there are no such thing in userspace on iOS. Obviously, less power usage, but also less potential functionality.
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That makes sense because :
1) Apple controls hardware & software, so they made sure the all components are good and the system is optimized. Easier to do it on limited set of hw.
2) Android can run services in the bg, while there are no such thing in userspace on iOS. Obviously, less power usage, but also less potential functionality.
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Oh absolutely. I agree there is a well and good reason why Android consumes more power than Apple. The problem is a larger battery is required and rarely offered in a way that the consumer would actually want.
Its like one of those "we need an idea" memes where they double everything on the phone every year: screen size, processors, graphics, speed, half as thin! And then they throw the same old battery they have been using for years in there.
I agree, so far we've seen, only Motorola has actually done anything about it with the Razor MAXX, at least without making a huge phone instead. I'm looking forward to see if they'll deliver something in that area in the future, current pushing of "cores and mpix" doesn't impress me at all.
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You have to have a MAXX or a large aftermarket battery just to get through the day with an Android.
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Depends on the phone. I get 5 to 6 hours screen on time on my s3.
Much better than my friends iPhone 5
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I agree, so far we've seen, only Motorola has actually done anything about it with the Razor MAXX, at least without making a huge phone instead. I'm looking forward to see if they'll deliver something in that area in the future, current pushing of "cores and mpix" doesn't impress me at all.
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Yes! That is exactly what I am talking about. Its great that new phones have 27 cores and all that, but useless when the phone dies in just a few hours. I have high hopes that the "maxx" type batteries carry over to all Android devices, and last year would have been past time for that.
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Depends on the phone. I get 5 to 6 hours screen on time on my s3.
Much better than my friends iPhone 5
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There are allot of unmentioned factors, apps syncing etc, and those make a huge difference. It's hard for me to accept your conclusion as valid. And of course we all know pics or it didn't happen.
My Mom, Dad, brother and sister all have iP5s, and I have the iPad3, my experience with these devices differ greatly from what you have stated above. I don't think you are intentionally spreading misinformation, but your vague statement about your friends iPhone does not match up with the long term experiences I have had with multiple Apple mobile devices.
My work just issued iPhone 4s to me. Think battery life is about the same as my galaxy nexus with 2100ma battery. I can't stand having to go back to home then settings just to change something simple in my email that should be in email not ios settings. Day 2 tomorrow will see for sure on battery but can't really use it like my own since they monitor it.
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u guys think that it will be a good choice for me or not ?
This is an Android forum and more importantly an Android phone...what do you think people are going to tell you? Haha j/k
If it was apps you were worried about Android Market will probably overtake App Store in a year or two so I'd say go for it
It's personal preference but I'm sure you definitely wouldn't regret it. You seen Ice Cream Sandwich?!?! Daymmmm!
Yes, it will be a good choice.
Imagine the screen size only, that's enough to laugh about iPhone 4S tiny screen
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u guys think that it will be a good choice for me or not ?
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yea i know i the iphone 4s screen a little tiny calculator lol just selling mi 4s to get the nexus
From 4S to Galaxy Nexus.....it a huge jump. I would start with Nexus S first.
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I went from the iphone to the SGS2 and it didn't work for me I was told to try a pure google phone for what my needs were, I have not bought it yet as I'm waiting to see if it's going to be recalled or maybe get a phone from a fresh batch, the apps are somewhat different then on an iphone for an example is the pandora app for say if you turn it landscape you won't get the playlist you listened to during your secion(like you can't look back and see what you listen to and see all the album covers, some apps are better in android then on the iphone some I prefer some I don't JAMOP ,
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I went from the iphone to the SGS2 and it didn't work for me I was told to try a pure google phone for what my needs were, I have not bought it yet as I'm waiting to see if it's going to be recalled or maybe get a phone from a fresh batch, the apps are somewhat different then on an iphone for an example is the pandora app for say if you turn it landscape you won't get the playlist you listened to during your secion(like you can't look back and see what you listen to and see all the album covers, some apps are better in android then on the iphone some I prefer some I don't JAMOP ,
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Dude. Use a period or two.
The iPhone is the top-of-the-line iOS device while the Nexus is the same for Android. The 4S won't have a successor for at least 6 months, while the Nexus could easily cruise a year. That being said, both will be outspecced pretty quickly by quadcore Android phones. Try the Nexus out, IceCreamSandwich is the main feature, as is the HD screen. If you don't like it, go back to the 4S, or wait for some new Android phones. The 4S and Nexus are almost on par in terms of hardware, and are both flagship devices. Either one is a great choice, just depends on your UI preference.
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I try to jump to a gs2 last summer but i dont liked and switched back to ios u guys think that the nexus will be outdated in a 3 or 4 months ? That's my main reason to get to phone when the gs3 come will be outdated or not ?
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We can't make that decision for you !, I didn't like the SGS2 because of the OS matched up with the hardware, The hardware is all there but it doesn't really work together with it's OS, It's not like how apple puts together their phone everything works like a well oiled machine, it's just not there for some reason, it's all a matter of how one notices it. This is my opinion and I'm hopping for a better phone experience this time around with google as the hardware picker and maker of there OS ICS and definitely not samsung the plastiqek phone maker, I would have liked LG or HTC make it. JMO like it or not
I just made the jump from iOS (3Gs, 4, 4s) to an SGSII, and it will be hard to go back, for me. Customization and larger screens were my main reason for jumping, and I haven't been disappointed. iOS still wins for the ecosystem and interoperability elegance, but I am happy with my choice.
On a side note, my SGSII is going back (bought an unlocked Nexus S) because like the 4s, it is not compelling enough to use my upgrade on for two years. I'll see what comes out in 2012 for an upgrade.
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I just made the jump from iOS (3Gs, 4, 4s) to an SGSII, and it will be hard to go back, for me. Customization and larger screens were my main reason for jumping, and I haven't been disappointed. iOS still wins for the ecosystem and interoperability elegance, but I am happy with my choice.
On a side note, my SGSII is going back (bought an unlocked Nexus S) because like the 4s, it is not compelling enough to use my upgrade on for two years. I'll see what comes out in 2012 for an upgrade.
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I'm buying this nexus outright and saved my upgrade for the iphone 5, I want the iphone 5 early shipped to me.
If you like to customize and do things like put ROMS, kernels, over clocking and such.
Android is now the way to go.......maybe in the past it was iOS but now they are pretty even.
Android is a lot better now especially with ICS....at least they finally decided to implement hardware acceleration -.- which is what iOS did since the beginning making it feel so much more fluid than android.
Anyways, if you sell your iPhone 4s, i would say get the GSII and save a few hundred bucks, especially since the Galaxy Nexus is costing more than the iPhone 4s even sells for. Then use that money when the GSIII or iPhone 5 come out.
I have both the iPhone 4S and Galaxy Nexus.
The iPhone 4S has superior build quality, camera and video recording, games, and vastly superior battery life.
The Galaxy Nexus has the best display I've ever seen, even better than Retina IMO! I can't believe people are bashing Super AMOLED HD or saying Retina is still way better. I have no complaints about the screen, its jaw dropping. Android 4.0 is the best OS out IMO as well. IOS 5 is cool and all, but I can't help but feel that Apple isn't innovating as fast as they should. Google literally redesigned and improved every aspect of Android in one update. In these past 4 years iOS looks nearly identical to how it did when it first launched, as well as many of the stock Apple apps. Every Google app got a giant facelift and improvement: YouTube, Gmail, Google Maps etc. And they look beautiful on this screen. The phone is pretty big overall but I'm getting used to it and its awesome. Performance is very good as well.
I've had the phone for roughly half a day and battery doesn't seem that good yet but I'll reserve judgment for a few more days.
I honestly can't believe Google improved Android this much in just one update. Its amazing.
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I agree. People dog the 4/4s because they will shatter, but the build quality and materials are excellent. It doesn't feel cheap.
I liked the SGSII, initially, but it has always felt cheap and the big screen has terrible resolution. I realized that Android was what would keep me here. I'm looking forward to some premium look and feel Android devices to match the potential of Android OS.
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Just sell my 4s on ebay 588$ for it 16 gb ordering through expansys this week
x.Orville.x said:
I try to jump to a gs2 last summer but i dont liked and switched back to ios u guys think that the nexus will be outdated in a 3 or 4 months ? That's my main reason to get to phone when the gs3 come will be outdated or not ?
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In the smartphone game EVERY phone that comes out is eclipsed in 3-4 months as far as specs are concerned, that's just the nature of the beast now. The thing about the iPhone and the Nexus phones are that there is only one device made every year despite all the other ones that come out with newer faster hardware or whathaveyou. The Nexus phones were designed to have hardware and software work hand in hand more so than any other Android phone. Both of the previous Nexus devices are the only ones running 2.3.6 (to my knowledge - and the NS4G has 2.3.7) which is one update ahead of everyone else - brand new phones are being launched with 2.3.5. If you're gonna make the jump, you're going to want the pure Google experience.
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In the smartphone game EVERY phone that comes out is eclipsed in 3-4 months as far as specs are concerned, that's just the nature of the beast now. The thing about the iPhone and the Nexus phones are that there is only one device made every year despite all the other ones that come out with newer faster hardware or whathaveyou. The Nexus phones were designed to have hardware and software work hand in hand more so than any other Android phone. Both of the previous Nexus devices are the only ones running 2.3.6 (to my knowledge - and the NS4G has 2.3.7) which is one update ahead of everyone else - brand new phones are being launched with 2.3.5. If you're gonna make the jump, you're going to want the pure Google experience.
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The SG2 has been out for 7 months and is still one of the most powerful smartphones out there in terms of hardware.
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The SG2 has been out for 7 months and is still one of the most powerful smartphones out there in terms of hardware.
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I was going to say that LOL but he's also mentioning a phone that come out once a year samsung puts out phones ever three months
That's because of the timing it launched in. With 4 cores around the corner things will change fast .
But I have to say this to OP, me personally I have no desires to go into contest of who has the longer piss, what matters to me is the user experience, as long as it is smooth and fast I don't care about hardware much as long as it would support the latest software. Because overtime all the wow effect will diminish and you'll be left with the software.
I would change from the iPhone to anything just because of the tiny screen.
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That's because of the timing it launched in. With 4 cores around the corner things will change fast .
But I have to say this to OP, me personally I have no desires to go into contest of who has the longer piss, what matters to me is the user experience, as long as it is smooth and fast I don't care about hardware much as long as it would support the latest software. Because overtime all the wow effect will diminish and you'll be left with the software.
I would change from the iPhone to anything just because of the tiny screen.
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I left apple because iphone 4s wasn't an upgrade to me, I also wanted to try something different in life because I had the 2G 3G 3Gs 4 and wanted to see what else is out their and like I said the SGS2 was not for me and I would have turned back if someone didn't say give the google phone a try ( because of what I wanted in a phone ) So here I am waiting to purchase soon, just waiting for the first update and for the second batch to appear
from what I read on iclarified they said (speculation of course ) apple is working on a 4" phone That would be good and I hope they make both because a lot of people like using one hand when surfing and the iphone is great for that in size
http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=18327
Hello everyone! I'm currently using an iPhone 4 on AT&T and I recently played with a Galaxy Nexus at Verizon after watching a lot of videos on it (I just had to play with one). I must say, I loved the screen from the short amount of time I used the phone and loved the interface of Android 4.0. I've been using iOS for awhile now and its not because I'm a 'lemming' or some other ridiculous term (please lets keep the fanboyism out of this) and have always jailbroken my phones. The Galaxy Nexus just seemed very nice (although I dislike the backing of the device) and I'm not sure if it's just the allure of something different since I'm so used to iOS (which I'm finding to be stagnant) or if its because its that much better.
I guess I would like to hear anyone's experience with the device, especially if they upgraded from an iPhone 4 as well. The biggest complaints I've heard about the phone are the sub par camera, the build quality, wifi issues, multitouch problems, and battery issues (this one worries me). Upgrading to the SGN would cost me quite a bit, probably around $650 dollars. I'm thinking I could sell my phone off for about $250-$300 making the price slightly more bearable.
Few of the things I liked while playing with it:
* Increased screen size with high pixel density
* Ice Cream Sandwich has a very futuristic feeling to it and I absolutely love the look of it
* Seemed very fast
* Camera took very fast photos
* Full screen browser was amazing (so much more content)
* Face unlock
* Live wallpapers (is this a big battery drain?)
So from a purely objective opinion (not a biased one, although I suppose that is impossible to avoid) do you think its worth the price for me to upgrade to a Galaxy Nexus from the iPhone 4?
Thank for you for time in answering my question(s), I really appreciate it!
I also had an iPhone 4 and chose to upgrade to this phone. Best choice I ever made when it comes to phones! The killer for me was the screen, I absolutely could not go back to a 3.5" screen now. And ICS is just fab! Go for it.
What you're experiencing right now is Night. If you were to upgrade the the Nexus then you would see Day. The only disadvantage the Nexus has over the iPhone is battery life. If you can deal with that then do it.
Had a Fascinate > Charge > iPhone4 > Nexus. I just can't stand that damn 3.5" screen.
Honestly, when i had an iPhone 4, the battery life was horrid. 8 hours at most.
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You pretty much nailed why this phone is better, but I think it comes down to apps. You'll miss some apps on Android at the beginning but you'll also find out that most of those apps you'll miss are irrelevant in an Android environment. You'll miss the battery life on your iPhone that's for sure unless you get a GSM version which I have, I have 10hrs on it and still 84% left of battery, didn't even try to conserve power.
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Honestly, when i had an iPhone 4, the battery life was horrid. 8 hours at most.
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Yea I don't understand the myth of iPhone 4 having great battery life.
The nexus will last 8-10 hours on 3G just like the iPhone 4/4s and it has more power hungry specs.
Although face unlock works well, I can't help but tell you it is a gimmick. Once you press the power button, it takes a while for the camera to initialize so there is some delay when unlocking (as opposed to the quick slide to unlock) but on the other hand is amazing to show-off to friends
Also, many users have reported that live wallpapers cause lag although I cannot confirm that myself. (But, when I did turn live wallpapers on, I did notice some slugishness/lag but it might be because I was running a lot of processes in the background)
The battery drain is also noticeable, for me on Android Revolution HD with Francisco Franco's kernel (dec 13 test non overclock) I get about 10 hours of usage but I still am yet to confirm the battery of the device. You should check out the galaxy nexus LTE review at www.theverge.com for more info. But I'm fairly certain that it does state the battery drain is heavily noticeable on the LTE variant.
Finally, I absolutely love the screen on the Galaxy Nexus as well. I would never go back to a ~4.5 inch screen ever again
I personally get tired of mobile OSes every couple years. I started with the original iPhone, upgraded to 3G, then jumped ship after 3GS release. Not only did I want to dump AT&T, but I also wanted to try out Android.
I was getting sick of Gingerbread so I upgraded early from my Droid Charge. I love the change so far, and I think I'll be sticking with Android for a bit longer. But coming from an Apple product you have to realize that Android will never be as polished or smooth. Google just doesn't have the closed ecosystem like Apple.
The gaming department is really disappointing for me over the iPhone, and is one of the primary reasons I want an Apple device again. But that 3.5" screen makes it hard to enjoy too lol. I think I'll just settle for an iPad 3. If you really like customizing and personalizing your devices, Android is perfect for you.
4G LTE is simply awesome. If you are around a lot of power sockets during your normal daytime gig, battery life is no big deal. Screen size is awesome. No dropped calls is awesome. And I know with Verizon, iPhone 4's fetch like $350-400 still, even after the release of the 4S.
Either way, I hope some of this info helped you lol.
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Upgrade!
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As long as you can deal with the reinvestment into a new ecosystem and possibly buying the Android version of any paid apps you want to continue to use I'd say go for it.
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My first android phone was a HTC Desire, then I sold it for iPhone 4S, which I was using whilst waiting for the Galaxy Nexus to be released. I've used an iPhone 2G before and to be honest 2G -> 4S has basically no difference. Using the dialer is poor, no smart dial, small screen which is pretty poor if you want to read web journals on your phone.
So many other basic features are missing from the iPhone such as you have to enter facebook to upload a picture. On Android you just take the photo, and share VIA Whatsapp/Facebook whatever. As easy as that.
Get the Nexus, you definitely won't regret it. Also if you get like a Note or SG2, it'll have the problem of when it gets ICS 4.0 it will still use the Touch Wiz which is frankly crap. So unless you're good at setting up Alternative Launchers or using Custom ROMS your best bet is just using the Nexus. Good luck.
Don't know much about the networks over there in America, but it seems that verizon is very much like Telstra here in Aus. Best coverage but biggest dicks.
That aside, I can say that the Galaxy nexus is awesome. While iOS has always been smooth, ICS has a nicer look about it. The GNEX screen is just amazing - similar to retina but more real estate, which is a winner in my books!
PS. Getting 11 mbps speeds here in aus with HSPA+ too
ive never owned an iphone 4 but i have worked with them a lot.
would i upgrade to a GN? without question.
if you want 'safe' phone then stick to the iphone
if you want a phone you can actually enjoy and play with then go android and the GN is one of the best options out there.
I havent had much trouble with the battery to be honest yes under heavy use it can go down quite quickly (although not as quickly as some devices)...for example i used about 45% when streaming a Newcastle game for 2 hours on full brightness which isnt to bad in my experience.
In 'normal' daily use the battery performs as well as most phones so far.
A lot of iphone users throw the battery issues with android phones out there, but believe me we have had plenty of situations when iphones have drained just as quick.
Just remember that heavy data usage, poor coverage and heavy screen use are the usual culprits for batteries dying.
The GN hasnt got a problem with the battery - at least not for me
Thank you for your replies! I'm still debating about it. One part of me says that a better phone will be coming out soon, while another part of me says that there will always be a better phone coming. Regardless, I do have one question for those of you with a Galaxy Nexus:
If I were to download an app from the Android Market will it scale to the Galaxy Nexus's screen properly? I imagine the graphics would have to be updated in the app to support the higher resolution, but I was curious if Google had worked anything out for generic images to scale correctly. Also do things like buttons (generic images used throughout the UI basically) change to their Android 4.0 counterparts?
Thanks again
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Thank you for your replies! I'm still debating about it. One part of me says that a better phone will be coming out soon, while another part of me says that there will always be a better phone coming. Regardless, I do have one question for those of you with a Galaxy Nexus:
If I were to download an app from the Android Market will it scale to the Galaxy Nexus's screen properly? I imagine the graphics would have to be updated in the app to support the higher resolution, but I was curious if Google had worked anything out for generic images to scale correctly. Also do things like buttons (generic images used throughout the UI basically) change to their Android 4.0 counterparts?
Thanks again
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Some apps scale, some don't, some will say not compatible. A lot of games don't work
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Some apps scale, some don't, some will say not compatible. A lot of games don't work
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That is disappointing. From your experience would you say enough work? Also, do you (or anyone else in this thread) think developers will update their graphics for the SGN's resolution (is it a standard resolution for ICS)?
Nah its just a few lines of code. Most everything will scale properly. ICS is still new and we only just recently got the Nexus. Its not even really updating graphics. Its not like Apple where things get stretched and look hideous. Completely different methods. I hated Apples method to make iPhone apps work on iPads. Most Android apps look 100% normal when scaled. Google doesn't want Tablet and Phone apps... they want 1 app that conforms to all... and most do. A few don't.
I typically take my phone off the charge at 8am. Its 8pm now with 30% left after going all day with corporate email, Gmail, Facebook, xda a few hours, and scrabble a few times. Pretty normal usage but its new so I keep tinkering with it.
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Nah its just a few lines of code. Most everything will scale properly. ICS is still new and we only just recently got the Nexus. Its not even really updating graphics. Its not like Apple where things get stretched and look hideous. Completely different methods. I hated Apples method to make iPhone apps work on iPads. Most Android apps look 100% normal when scaled. Google doesn't want Tablet and Phone apps... they want 1 app that conforms to all... and most do. A few don't.
I typically take my phone off the charge at 8am. Its 8pm now with 30% left after going all day with corporate email, Gmail, Facebook, xda a few hours, and scrabble a few times. Pretty normal usage but its new so I keep tinkering with it.
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Why is it that the graphics don't need to be changed? I'm sure games would need different sized graphics to take advantage of the higher resolution screen. As for the whole iPhone app iPad app thing. I would rather developers create a dedicated tablet app versus's a scaled up phone app any day, so either way isn't that great in my opinion. Great news on the battery! I'm assuming your using the GSM version of the Nexus since your on T-Mobile?
Sorry I couldn't help it
I'm in a weird mood today...
Gsm sexier ....thinner and more pronounce curve lte version battery drains fast. Hate it .. I returning the lte and staying with gsm version
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Hey Guys...I have an iPhone 4s But I am really curious about the Galaxy Nexus.
Has anyone gone that route? Has anyone gone from a iPhone 4s to the Nexus? What are your thoughts? I am not new to Android......I had a Bionic a Thunderbolt before my iPhone..... Just wanted to get some input as I can trade my iPhone for a Nexus straight up...
I just did the trade. Its got its pros and its cons. You do get the bigger screen but make sure you check it out cause the screen can be overwhelming. It was for me. The camera is the worst compared to the iPhone. I really miss the camera. Battery is about the same for both (meaning they suck). Nexus is because of the lte though. If you have a Mac then you are going to miss I cloud cause it all worked great. Twitter lags badly on nexus if you use that but I think that's due to incompatibility with ics.
The positives though, screen looks amazing with the vibrant colors. Great for games. I love the hacking community. All in all its a great phone. I really miss my iPhone and siri but I love this big guy. Make sure you really play around with a nexus before trading.
Also the first nexus I got had real bad vertical lines on it when it was dim. I returned it and got a new one which is more bearable but still there.
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I just did the trade. Its got its pros and its cons. You do get the bigger screen but make sure you check it out cause the screen can be overwhelming. It was for me. The camera is the worst compared to the iPhone. I really miss the camera. Battery is about the same for both (meaning they suck). Nexus is because of the lte though. If you have a Mac then you are going to miss I cloud cause it all worked great. Twitter lags badly on nexus if you use that but I think that's due to incompatibility with ics.
The positives though, screen looks amazing with the vibrant colors. Great for games. I love the hacking community. All in all its a great phone. I really miss my iPhone and siri but I love this big guy. Make sure you really play around with a nexus before trading.
Also the first nexus I got had real bad vertical lines on it when it was dim. I returned it and got a new one which is more bearable but still there.
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Thank you.....so I see a lot of pros and cons for both phones......but if you had to do it over again would you?
My Bionic lasted about 16 hours for normal (for me) use. My iPhone last about 2 days between charges. But I do take a lot of pictures with my phone and like to carry it in my pocket....so not sure the Nexus will fit in my jean pocket.....
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Thank you.....so I see a lot of pros and cons for both phones......but if you had to do it over again would you?
My Bionic lasted about 16 hours for normal (for me) use. My iPhone last about 2 days between charges. But I do take a lot of pictures with my phone and like to carry it in my pocket....so not sure the Nexus will fit in my jean pocket.....
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My Nexus fits fine in my pockets lol
I love the nexus definitely but if I had to do it again I don't think I would. I really do love the iPhone. Especially if you plan in taking a lot of pics. They have a thread on here with peoples pics on their nexus and you can see the difference in quality between the 2. If you go for Verizon lte version then you get a huge boost in speed.
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Hey Guys...I have an iPhone 4s But I am really curious about the Galaxy Nexus.
Has anyone gone that route? Has anyone gone from a iPhone 4s to the Nexus? What are your thoughts? I am not new to Android......I had a Bionic a Thunderbolt before my iPhone..... Just wanted to get some input as I can trade my iPhone for a Nexus straight up...
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I did, though I still have the i4S as well so it was not really a switch. I'm basically using two phones now
It depends what do you do mostly on the phone. Both devices are great, there are some fields where i4S literally trumps GNexus like the camera, so if you often take pictures with your iPhone, you will be really disappointed, but otherwise it's mostly a matter of display/OS preference: huge GNexus display with Android, or tiny iPhone display with iOS. I could live with any of those devices if I was forced to use only one, so if you are draw to Nexus screen, and you won't miss iOS only features like iMessage, go for it..
For me there isn't any question - I ditched iOS last year and haven't looked back. I preferred even the screens of the Captivate and the Fascinate over the iPhone due to the brightness and color saturation. I soon learned, though, that the screen was only the beginning. There is so much more you can do with Android than with iOS - you can run custom ROMs, kernels and themes, making your phone look and function just about any way you want. I could go into details, but you're better off discovering for yourself. While the display alone would have made me pick the Galaxy Nexus, with the vast possibilities Android offers over iOS, it's a foregone conclusion in my opinion. Oh, one more thing... The Gnex has LTE 4G Internet, while the iPhone is only capable of 3G - you have to experience it to truly appreciate the difference. My advice is obvious - Gnex ftw
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Wtf do you think
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Do you honestly think you're going to get an overwhelming response telling you to get the iPhone... on a hacking forum... in the Galaxy Nexus subforum?
4s offer battery
GN offer 4g and large screen
both OS got apps.
my co-worker got a 4s and i got a GN... each day my GN at least charge once at work while he playing games without fear of getting low battery...
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I hate the lack of customization, tiny screen, and undersaturated colors on the iPhone.
And the Nexus is integrated much better with google products.
Iphone 3g.
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I had 4 then 4s then razr then went back to my 4s. Once I got the GN only thing I miss is the camera I find android much better OS for customization which I really enjoy doin with my phone. All comes down to preference of course.
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I own both right now if you need a camera go with the iPhone also if you play lots of games the iPhone will likely be your phone of choice. Everything else is about the same or better on the nexus. Ics is light years ahead of the iphones iOS 5 but like the guy Said up top this is an android hacking development forum for this phone.... so your not going to get the best results, I can say that the galaxy nexus received better reviews. Do some more research look at reviews and iPhone 4s vs Galaxy Nexus videos
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At first I was going to give you a hard time and tell you that if you even have to ask you should get the iPhone. But then I remembered that when I went from the iPhone to the Nexus One, I absolutely hated and regretted it. But here I am 3 years later and on my 4th straight Android phone and I will tell you that you are going to love it. No matter what, just give it time.
If people knew how to use the camera on the gnex there wouldnt be much difference. The fast shutter mode is what causes the inconsistent pictures. If you hold the camera button and let it focus, it will take a great picture.
Apple as a company, has a far different mind set when compared to companies like Google.
Apple stands behind their product.. period!.. and they are more interested in quality and innovative products.. (hardware and software wise).. than in mass production of low quality items that have potential to become very popular in the short run.
If you were like me.. desperately waiting for the GNEX since their announcement in October.. you would have seen how miserable Google was and still is.. when it comes to controlling and showing some interest for perfecting their flagship device. They are miserable in that. After all they are a search Engine company at their core that rely on advertisements.
Apple is not like that.. They cater to their home market FIRST.. They dictate their terms to the carriers.. and they never NEVER compromise on design and functionality.
If Apple doesn't do something.. (like 4G LTE).. yet.. then there is a good solid reason why. (the answer is pretty obvious when it comes to the current generation LTE chips)..
iOS is far more advanced and better integrated than Android will ever be. .. that is because at the core level.. Android relies on Java to linux conversion.. and has a severe draw back when it comes to Graphics rendering.
This is why Android phones MUST have dual core processors and higher RAM..
Thanks to clever marketing.. this gets disguised as if Android is making quantum leaps with packing more power into smartphones..
But reality is in front of you. The Galaxy Nexus has severe lags in many cases..
an underclocked iphone 4s will run pretty much ANYTHING much MUCH better than any android device.. period!..
Not to mention.. an iphone 4s out of the box will give you a 170 Linpack score... a score that others can only dream of.
If you love tinkering with your phone.. if you love installing custom roms (that still suck at many levels).. and if you love to be on a constant quest to de-bug your phone and installing third party apps just to make your phone function the way it was supposed to out of the box.. then Android is for you.
If you are more interested in having a bug-free.. slick interface and integration with all apps and the OS... along with a state of the art hardware.. then Apple it is.
My biggest concern with the iphone 4s was the screen size and 3G speeds.
Trust me.. smartphones currently do not necessarily NEED 4G speeds. I would still have loved a slightly larger screen size on my iphone.. but I love the fact that the phone is compact and slick. 3G speeds on Verizon are plenty enough to stream you-tube videos without much delay even in HD.... same with the Browser.. all thanks to intense optimization in ios.
For what it is worth.. I used to be an android developer.. and I used to tear apart Android ROMs and build them from scratch.
I've jumped over to the iphone 4s.. and I'm never looking back.
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Apple as a company, has a far different mind set when compared to companies like Google.
Apple stands behind their product.. period!.. and they are more interested in quality and innovative products.. (hardware and software wise).. than in mass production of low quality items that have potential to become very popular in the short run.
If you were like me.. desperately waiting for the GNEX since their announcement in October.. you would have seen how miserable Google was and still is.. when it comes to controlling and showing some interest for perfecting their flagship device. They are miserable in that. After all they are a search Engine company at their core that rely on advertisements.
Apple is not like that.. They cater to their home market FIRST.. They dictate their terms to the carriers.. and they never NEVER compromise on design and functionality.
If Apple doesn't do something.. (like 4G LTE).. yet.. then there is a good solid reason why. (the answer is pretty obvious when it comes to the current generation LTE chips)..
iOS is far more advanced and better integrated than Android will ever be. .. that is because at the core level.. Android relies on Java to linux conversion.. and has a severe draw back when it comes to Graphics rendering.
This is why Android phones MUST have dual core processors and higher RAM..
Thanks to clever marketing.. this gets disguised as if Android is making quantum leaps with packing more power into smartphones..
But reality is in front of you. The Galaxy Nexus has severe lags in many cases..
an underclocked iphone 4s will run pretty much ANYTHING much MUCH better than any android device.. period!..
Not to mention.. an iphone 4s out of the box will give you a 170 Linpack score... a score that others can only dream of.
If you love tinkering with your phone.. if you love installing custom roms (that still suck at many levels).. and if you love to be on a constant quest to de-bug your phone and installing third party apps just to make your phone function the way it was supposed to out of the box.. then Android is for you.
If you are more interested in having a bug-free.. slick interface and integration with all apps and the OS... along with a state of the art hardware.. then Apple it is.
My biggest concern with the iphone 4s was the screen size and 3G speeds.
Trust me.. smartphones currently do not necessarily NEED 4G speeds. I would still have loved a slightly larger screen size on my iphone.. but I love the fact that the phone is compact and slick. 3G speeds on Verizon are plenty enough to stream you-tube videos without much delay even in HD.... same with the Browser.. all thanks to intense optimization in ios.
For what it is worth.. I used to be an android developer.. and I used to tear apart Android ROMs and build them from scratch.
I've jumped over to the iphone 4s.. and I'm never looking back.
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Yaaaaawwnn.
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When I got my Galaxy Nexus (GN) it was sheer happiness. I was using a legacy Nokia Symbian candy bar and this was my first foray into unmolested Android. While all was not perfect with the GN, I was still mostly pleased. Then the fateful day occurred when I dropped the GN a little too hard and the screen shattered even though the phone was protected by a Diztronic TPU case. I now needed a new phone, but I knew the Nexus 5 (N5) would be out soon, so I kept using my shattered GN until the N5 was available and when it arrived, I realized cracking my screen was a blessing in disguise.
Without further ado, my quick major comparisons to the GN:
The N5 is FAST. REALLY FAST. It makes my GN feel like an unfinished prototype/research model that should have never been brought to market.
The N5’s GPS locks on quickly. REALLY quickly. My GN could take a minute or more at times to get a lock and, by then, my wife, annoyed, would whip out her iPhone and tell me my phone sucks.
The N5 has “awesome battery life.” While its battery life is average in general, compared to the GN it is legendary. The GN’s screen and data connection would kill the battery and it would rarely last till the afternoon if I frequently used both. With the N5 I can make heavy use of my screen and data connection and my battery will likely last the day.
Qi support. This makes number 3 above even better and there’s no jamming of Micro-USB ports into the phone and hoping I didn’t have the port upside-down (particularly when it’s dark/at night). When I’m at my desk, my phone is always charging. When a call comes in, I simply pick up the phone and then put it back down to charge when I’m done—nothing to plug in/I’m untethered. When I leave my desk for an hour or three, I have no fear of using or pushing the phone as hard as I’d like as I know I’m probably fully charged, because the phone was sitting on the charger, and I’ll have more than enough battery life for whatever I might encounter. Qi is simply elegant and something the iPhone can’t do.
LTE. While I got decent “4G” speeds on the GN—around 8Mbps down—the 20+/30+Mbps I get now alongside far better PING times is a great improvement.
The N5 has almost zero lag. It’s really that fast. My GN was almost all lag. Project Butter improved things, but the GN still has lag all over the place. I’m sure the N5 will start to slow down as newer software makes greater demands of the hardware, but, for now, this thing flies.
If you’re still using a GN, stop. It sucks, particularly when compared to a modem smart phone. Get the N5 and stop having your wife/girlfriend tell you your phone sucks, because it does.
Cheers.
GN sucks? Off course if you are comparing it to a 2 year newer phone with much better specs... Compare the Galaxy Nexus with Galaxy S2 (similar hardware) or even with newer phones but without those overwhelming specs and GN still rocks.
Maybe not everyone is rich and can affort paying up to 300$ per 2 years for a new phone... We all know that Nexus 5 is better than Galaxy Nexus in everything, I would like to say "Thank you mr obvious".
The point is, I'm happy with my GN, it has poor batery, awful speaker sound and s*tty Wi-Fi antenna but aside that it is a great phone which doesn't lag at all if you equip it with a good kernel and a stable rom. Well, it lags in heavy games or apps but I'm sure a bad optimized app will also lag in the Nexus 5.
I agree with Rayaxe. Of course the Nexus 5 is a much better phone in every aspect, but why does that suddenly mean the Galaxy Nexus sucks?
And I can say, aside from games (I don't really play very demanding games, so I wouldn't know), my phone with KitKat and Mpokang flies. It hasn't lagged at all, not once, and I can multitask without problems (in 4.3 it was painful, compared to 4.4). So I also agree that with a good ROM and kernel that's not an issue.
I still want to get a Nexus 5 (which at the moment is a bit difficult for me, because of my country's massive currency devaluation), but certainly not because I got tired of my GN or feel that it's old/sucks, etc.
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I agree with Rayaxe. Of course the Nexus 5 is a much better phone in every aspect, but why does that suddenly mean the Galaxy Nexus sucks?
And I can say, aside from games (I don't really play very demanding games, so I wouldn't know), my phone with KitKat and Mpokang flies. It hasn't lagged at all, not once, and I can multitask without problems (in 4.3 it was painful, compared to 4.4). So I also agree that with a good ROM and kernel that's not an issue.
I still want to get a Nexus 5 (which at the moment is a bit difficult for me, because of my country's massive currency devaluation), but certainly not because I got tired of my GN or feel that it's old/sucks, etc.
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but the Galaxy Nexus does suck.
I'm agree with your comparison. Nexus 5 is much much better than GNex.
But I think it's rude to say GNex sucks.
When GNex just launched, it's also great, isn't it?
Nexus 5 will be in a same position I believe, when the newest Nexus will get launched in the year 2015!
I still love my GNex. Gonna use it for 1 more year.
My wife is still under GN contract and the GN is still nice and getting it done.
This is like the most stupid sentence you could write.
It's like, I remember, when the Game Boy Advance came out and in the shop where I went to buy it a guy told me for 10 minutes how it was the best console ever, how awsome it was etc.
Two years after the Game Boy SP came out and the same guy told me that this was the best console ever and blablabla.
I mean, it's obvious, the upgrade of a phone has to be better than the old version (if it wasn't what kind of upgrade would it be?!), but this doesn't mean that the previous version then sucks.
And maybe you were saying the same about the N1 when the GN came out...
Thank you all for the support of GNex in this forum. I have also switched to N5.
Are you serious? I have a newsflash for you: the Xbox one is better than the Xbox 360. This is just dumb to say dude, no offence. I still love my gnex, it rocks. Its flying and of course it wont play asphalt 8 on max. But its a 2 year old phone.. This is a stupid comparison and a bad conclusion. Sorry to say that.
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Are you serious? I have a newsflash for you: the Xbox one is better than the Xbox 360. This is just dumb to say dude, no offence. I still love my gnex, it rocks. Its flying and of course it wont play asphalt 8 on max. But its a 2 year old phone.. This is a stupid comparison and a bad conclusion. Sorry to say that.
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, I can play Asphalt 8 with graphics on Low without any lag (in medium it laggs a little bit) and I don't notice any difference in graphics (maybe some lights but irrelevant), the gameplay isn't affected even a bit so why should I care? I am not playing in a TV to tell the difference, in a small screen with a large resolution for its size (like GN) the graphics will always be good for the eye (at least for me and I'm not blind).
Asphalt 8 with Low Graphics > PSP Graphics... so, our Galaxy Nexus can preform really well in gaming, it's not that crap.
I think it's hypocritical to be a fan of the Nexus philosophy and upgrade every year cause of the specs. The original intent of the Nexus line was to show that it isn't about the hardware but the software ultimately delivers. That's why every Nexus phone up to the Gnex had subpar specs, and why people chose to buy Nexus devices cause of the philosophy. The only way I'm changing phones is when this one croaks and I haven't felt limited enough to ditch this phone for my uses. Especially over specs when realtime usage besides gaming is only milliseconds apart from $150 phone vs a $350-$700 phone. Anything, KitKat shows there's still potential to tap. Our brothers with the Nexus S, the HD2s would agree as much.
This thread is stupid. Gnex<3
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I'm agree with your comparison. Nexus 5 is much much better than GNex.
But I think it's rude to say GNex sucks.
When GNex just launched, it's also great, isn't it?
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I bought this phone due to it's hype. And frankly the S2 I feel is a better phone till today. And from launch this phone had lag issues on ICS and also grainy displays.
Battery life was also rubbish from day 1. I didn't feel it back then because I had no data plan. Speaker is also another lousy aspect of this phone. I've also had stock 4.0.1 totally made me go into a bootloop.
I went through 2 screen replacements, a battery and motherboard replacement. And today my phone reboots after using 3-5 GB of space. Does it suck? I'm afraid it sucks hard.
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I came from an iPhone 4 to a gnex when it first launched, I have to say I loved the large screen of the gnex at first because iPhones always feel tiny an narrow in comparison an still do to this day but everything else sucked about gnex.
Wow. I didn’t expect all the negativity and blind support for the GN, but I’m glad to see many here also agree with my assessment of the GN’s performance. My intention wasn’t to create a “GN sucks” thread, but, rather, to share my experience as a GN owner and enlighten my fellow GN owners as to how taken aback I was and how much better the smartphone experience is with the N5. I didn’t realize how good Android could be/how poor of a performer the GN is until I received the N5. Yes, one should expect the latest and greatest to perform better than an older model, but I chose to share my experience with the community because I am a part of the community and I wanted my fellow GN owners to know how significant this was for me, a GN owner.
As for the GN zealots, I apologize if I insulted you—feel free to keep your legacy device/I won’t make further commentary on this—but, again, the smartphone experience of a GN, compared to the N5, well, sucks, and after using the N5 I feel I was fortunate to have the display of my GN crack. Maybe you’ll get lucky as well .
you're comparing the n5 to a 2-year old phone. of course it will suck in comparison to the n5. the n5 will probably suck in comparison to whatever device is released this time in 2015.
on a tangent, though, i really wish these phones wouldn't get so big. i'd actually like a high-end phone that's not 5" or some craziness like that. i really wouldn't want to have to get an iphone just to get a high-end phone that is around the size i prefer.
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on a tangent, though, i really wish these phones wouldn't get so big. i'd actually like a high-end phone that's not 5" or some craziness like that. i really wouldn't want to have to get an iphone just to get a high-end phone that is around the size i prefer.
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If I didn’t get the N5 I would have gotten the Moto X, which it probably as close as you’ll get to a modern Nexus with a smaller screen.
So with all of this I have a bad taste for Samsung. Not the Note 7 because it is a real marvel of a phone, but the company that kind of down played this recall and now is fixing things in the 11th hour. No matter the %, 92 isn't 37 and I hate when companies go half way on ownership.
To that end I pre-ordered an Iphone 7 plus 256GB in jet black. For the meantime while my Note sat in a drawer, I wound up using a spare new Iphone 6 that my helpdesk guy had laying around. I made things my own by adding cards to apple pay, using a hack to get icons to move down and to the right, using the IOS 10 widget panel, GMAIL, Google cal, Google Play music, news stand etc. Here is why I need help...
Iphone Cons-
No Customization and hacks to do simple things (but then, do I actually care about that anymore)
Screen is not as nice as the Note 7 (But its damn good and I notice no resolution difference. In some ways the screen is more accurate on the 7 plus based on me seeing it on the 6s plus)
The phone is huge for a 5.5" No denying that
Apple pay is NOT Samsung Pay
No Wireless Charge (whatever because I can get a dock but its just so easy)
Back button still ****ing annoys me
Notifications are better in IOS 10 than ever but still less than that of Android
EVERYONE HAS IT
Dated physical design
No QC
Makes me feel like a woman hipster with a giant manbun
Iphone Pros-
Smooth as **** (and will be in 6 months while my note surely wont be)
Touch ID is still better than the fingerprint on the note or the iris on the note
Gonna last as long on a charge even with a 2900mah battery
Multi-task is finally better and while not google, I ask you to tell me why I would care if the outcome is identical when navigating between apps
Design while old feels really smooth, premium and aluminum is less fragile for sure
IOS10 is the first IOS I don't really mind
Google services make IOS great and in 10 you can hide factory apps
Probably a slightly better camera now
A10 Fusion is fast as hell and on their software will more than likely lap the Note even from day 1 with real life use. Definitely in 6 months though
Cases are generally better and more premium
Swiftkey makes IOS also usable
Touch ID is so fast and never misses my finger. ID integration in each app
Apps are cleaner, more sophisticated looking and have features my android apps don't
God I am getting old, but everything just works and while tinkering is fun, I find myself not missing it in IOS anymore
Raise to wake takes care of the AOD need for me
Bluetooth audio and BT battery management are exponentially better than the note
So here is the truth. I feel awful leaving android, but I have now used the iphone even the smaller older one and its still fast and smooth and enjoyable. So I know you are all heated about the topic, all generally Andy fans but I ask as a fellow techy who is getting old with a couple of kids, what the **** do I choose.
P.S. Please don't bring up S pen because its not a factor for me.
I have a replacement Note 7 and it's like butter.
No lag and such a difference. Then you can go further, a Note 7 without lag, smaller bezels than the iPhone 7 Plus my headphone jack (Sorry, couldn't resist) and the ability to cutomise until my heart is content.
Enjoy your iPhone it's a fantastic device, but it's certainly no (replacement) Note 7
You have to make the decision that works best for you in the long term. would I personally go to an iPhone? Nah, in my opinion they're phones for kids/teens and the only way to make them semi usable is to add a crap-ton of Google stuff to them, or you can just get the actual google operating system wrapped in WAYYYY better looking hardware, i don't care what anyone says, the space above and below the iPhone screen is just unacceptable. I write apps for both IOS and Android and they are "smooth" because they are so limited and clocked down that they run great, but that slows trust me. Android phones tend to be power houses and can catch here and there but I've personally never experienced the lag people speak of on Touchwiz, not even when i rooted my phones back in the day, thing is people want to add everything and tweak everything to the phone then don't understand why it hits a snag every once in a while. But again, my explosive Note 7 runs perfect, no lag or anything, its buttery smooth, and all of my Samsung phones have been even when power using them.
So at this point it comes down to preference, OS wise and aesthetically. There's no question iPhone has more mainstream appeal making acquiring accessories and stuff a lot easier, But there are no shortage of Android accessories available either, and Android is meant to customize and make your own, where as IOS is set to strict guidelines to have it always look how Apple wants it to look. For everything I've listed here and more Android is just the choice for me, preferably Samsung because they've found that perfect phone formula that seems to be tailored to me personally and professionally, but that isn't everyone's taste, fact is, there really isn't anything that you get in an iPhone that you don't already get on Android, but there's a lot on Android you cant get with iPhone.
Good luck!
alltaken123 said:
I have a replacement Note 7 and it's like butter.
No lag and such a difference. Then you can go further, a Note 7 without lag, smaller bezels than the iPhone 7 Plus my headphone jack (Sorry, couldn't resist) and the ability to cutomise until my heart is content.
Enjoy your iPhone it's a fantastic device, but it's certainly no (replacement) Note 7
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I noticed that also. My replacement is noticeably smoother. My last one would randomly lag and stutter. The new one is as smooth as my Exynos S7 Edge was.
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I noticed that also. My replacement is noticeably smoother. My last one would randomly lag and stutter. The new one is as smooth as my Exynos S7 Edge was.
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Is the firmware version any different?
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Is the firmware version any different?
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Identical.
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jackdforme said:
So with all of this I have a bad taste for Samsung. Not the Note 7 because it is a real marvel of a phone, but the company that kind of down played this recall and now is fixing things in the 11th hour. No matter the %, 92 isn't 37 and I hate when companies go half way on ownership.
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What Samsung did was extraordinary and cost them billions of dollars both in cash and lost market capitalization. Based on how few phones have overheated they could have played kick-the-can and stalled this for months or been forced involuntarily in to addressing the issue. Instead they announced within a week of identifying the problem internally that they were recalling 2.5M Note7s. Clearly some here aren't in business because to think any multi-billion dollar multinational conglomerate could recall 2.5M of anything faster or better than Samsung did is a pipe dream. They obviously had their sh!t together because the recall program they were already in the process of in the U.S. was blessed within days by the CPSC.
I've been buying Samsung products for years (mostly Note phones and tablets) and this is the first serious problem I've encountered. The Note7 was the best Samsung phone I've owned before this debacle and nothing's changed after.
Audi had a huge unintentional acceleration problem, Honda is tied directly to the Takata airbag issue, GM was involved in an ignition switch problem cover-up, and VW's getting their ass kicked for screwing with emission testing. The first three are performing extremely well and VW will be fine when the dust settles. Samsung will be fine too.
Agreed, My entire house is outfitted in Samsung, I'm a definite Samsung "Fan-Boy" and because they have never let me down and always deliver the best most innovative products. My washer, dryer, TVs, Tablets, Soundbars, BT speakers, Watches, Phones, Netbooks, charging docks etc. all Samsung - and that goes for all of my Wife's products and the rest of my family (Brother, Sister, Brother in law, Mom etc.) I sold them on their first Samsung device years and they haven't looked back. I didn't fret once over this recall, I knew it was being blown out of proportion and that Samsung was all over it the best they could be and I was going to be taken care of.
If anything my Brand loyalty has been enhanced because of this, but that doesn't mean i expect Samsung to be perfect always or say they wont ever drop the ball, But I will cross that bridge when I get there, until then Samsung is my brand, and the Note 7 is a GREAT phone and has met and far exceeded my expectations both on aesthetics and performance.
Samsung came through for us on this recall regardless of how people want to perceive their approach, so to those people: please explain how they could have done it better?
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They obviously had their sh!t together because the recall program they were already in the process of in the U.S. was blessed within days by the CPSC.
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I agree that the recall has been handled well, unprecedented to get so many replacements produced and shipped so quickly (I have a replacement already).
However, the CPSC had this to say to BBC News:
Mr Kaye said Samsung should not have tried to do the recall by itself, saying: "Anybody who thinks that a company going out on its own is going to provide the best recall for that company, and more importantly for the consumer, needs to have more than their phone checked,"
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I agree that the recall has been handled well, unprecedented to get so many replacements produced and shipped so quickly (I have a replacement already).
However, the CPSC had this to say to BBC News:
Mr Kaye said Samsung should not have tried to do the recall by itself, saying: "Anybody who thinks that a company going out on its own is going to provide the best recall for that company, and more importantly for the consumer, needs to have more than their phone checked,"
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- Says the guy who makes money and gets to push his power by issuing recalls. No different than a mechanic saying "Anyone who rotates their own tires is looking to die!"
And sure, of course they did whats best for Samsung, They have to stay is business, both by cleaning up their mess as quick as possible and to their consumers liking (because we are the reason they have a business) no company is stupid enough not to try and please the consumer with their decision.
I'm just confused on the apparent blessing of the recall followed by that statement yesterday.
I knew you all would focus here. It's the problem with forums. I'm asking for honest opinions on the two devices not about the recall. It was a catalyst and now here I am at an impasse. It wouldn't even be a thought had the recall not happened but here we are.
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jackdforme said:
Iphone Cons-
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It's an iPhone.
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I'm asking for honest opinions on the two devices not about the recall.
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What's different today from the year's long discussion of Android vs. iOS? The iP7+ is as big as a house, has a 1080P IPS panel, has a 2,900mAh battery, no wireless charging, no fast charging, no audio jack, and an eco-system locked down harder than Fort Knox which offers no flexibility and customization. I didn't read your "pros" summary but I'm assuming they're what's already known. What's left to say?
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It's an iPhone.
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What's different today from the year's long discussion of Android vs. iOS? The iP7+ is as big as a house, has a 1080P IPS panel, has a 2,900mAh battery, no wireless charging, no fast charging, no audio jack, and an eco-system locked down harder than Fort Knox which offers no flexibility and customization. I didn't read your "pros" summary but I'm assuming they're what's already known. What's left to say?
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I mean the Pro's summary would be important to have an objective look no?
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Iphone Pros-
Smooth as **** (and will be in 6 months while my note surely wont be)
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I have to disagree... Before I have my Note 7, I was using my 2011 Note 1 (ran on Samsung Jelly bean stock rom)... No lag has been felt until recently when the apps I am using often are getting more and more RAM demanding...
Samsung vs iPhone should not be seen as Android vs iOS, but then when coming to which to choose, it depends on which best suits your needs (I don't view those who chose iOS over Android are any inferior). Personally I no longer find Android exciting like it used to be, but between Android devices and iPhone, I am still an Android guy. The reason for this is simple: Android has large variety of devices which I can choose from... And this time I chose Note 7 (not because I am loyal to Samsung) as it offers various exciting functions (and ya, I like the S-Pen)... As for iPhone 7 or 7+, I found the design for these device were unappealing...
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I have to disagree... Before I have my Note 7, I was using my 2011 Note 1 (ran on Samsung Jelly bean stock rom)... No lag has been felt until recently when the apps I am using often are getting more and more RAM demanding...
Samsung vs iPhone should not be seen as Android vs iOS, but then when coming to which to choose, it depends on which best suits your needs (I don't view those who chose iOS over Android are any inferior). Personally I no longer find Android exciting like it used to be, but between Android devices and iPhone, I am still an Android guy. The reason for this is simple: Android has large variety of devices which I can choose from... And this time I chose Note 7 (not because I am loyal to Samsung) as it offers various exciting functions (and ya, I like the S-Pen)...
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Now that is a good reply. Thank you for being just up front.
It looks to me like you only want 'on the fence' replies that give you no swing towards either device. I gave you real world use in that it is very smooth on the 2nd release which I presumed would have made a huge difference to your decision considering you mentioned that all was good until the recall announcement.
People have given you material and real world examples of the recall (In my case 10 days!) but you still seem bent on assuming the recall is being handled poorly.
I've read where apple has ignored people being hurt and even killed by the iPhone since 2009. Little girl had glass on her eye from it exploding, a man had third degree burns when biking he fell on it. Others died. Look it up. They said not our fault. Samsung cares more about customers. Imo so im sticking with Sammy. I hope you all find happiness with your devices, stay safe.
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Seems like we've all given the best answers we can to your question and reasons why we feel this way, ultimately the decision is yours based on what YOU like and why and how it fits into your life. The recall came up because its why you came into this dilemma in the first place.
We can tell you all day which couch your ass likes better, but in the end you're the only person who can feel the nerve endings in your ass lol, so you have make that decision based off what you like. Its like asking if I like Ham or Roast Beef more. The differences of IOS and Android are very prominent and very much talked about and public, at this point it seems you just want someone to push you in one direction or the other or give you the "go-ahead" but judging from your first post and last post, it seems like you've already chosen the iPhone and no one is gonna stop you, I choose Android wrapped in the Note 7, but that doesn't mean that's the standard everyone should live by.
That's a nice assalogy.