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Phone won't load recovery -
My phone currently has 2.3.3 and will not root because the firmware is too "new" according to Unrevoked.
How do I backtrack to 2.2?
Also, the phone is not rooted (s-on) and recovery once again will not load properly; i get the red exclamation.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
There are a few threads addressing this issue already, and the short answer from what I have found in my research, because I too took the OTA update and have looked in to this myself, is that there is no option.
If you are S-ON and have the new Bootloader and newest OTA update, you just have to hang tight until the devs behind Unrevoked or other such methods figure out a workaround for the newest bootloader.
denxnis said:
Phone won't load recovery -
My phone currently has 2.3.3 and will not root because the firmware is too "new" according to Unrevoked.
How do I backtrack to 2.2?
Also, the phone is not rooted (s-on) and recovery once again will not load properly; i get the red exclamation.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
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Hey man, I am sorry to inform you that there is currently no root method for the software you're on. You can't downgrade to 2.2, the RUU won't let you do it. The new bootloader that you're on is not downgradeable, and it is still currently locked. Hopefully a new exploit is figured out soon, but for now you just need to wait it out. Or trade your Evo with someone who still has froyo!
Thanks for the info guys.
Not sure is any of this could render your phone without functionality and If you are willing to give it a shot, try the first part of my post. After I unrooted the defective EVO to accept the OTA (since it was going back in a day anyway and didn't care if the root was lost) adn it was along with my .76 Hboot. I was able to get root back by using the HBOOT in stock recovery and loading the RUU posted with of course loading the usb drivers. Now, to be honest, I never used unrevoked to begin with on that EVO, so never checked son/soff before.
If for some glorious reason you are able to load the ruu and it comes up...try the root option also posted from the link to xHausx.
Here's hoping....but reality will probably set in and a short wait is needed for a real method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14496385#post14496385
unfortunately no root for 2.3 but rumor has it that htc is working on unlocking the new bootloader with a update coming in the near future prob 2.3.4
Ok so I got impatient and installed the Gingerbread update that VZW pushed out a week or so ago, found the file here since I wasnt one of the lucky few to get the OTA push. I flashed it through HBOOT since it was a signed file, please note that I'm not rooted and the phone is completely stock. I want to go back to 2.2 stock and wait for the official, and apparently I'm not doing something right. running the RUU for the 2.2 gives me a bootloader version error, and dropping the zip named PB31IMG.zip and flashing through hboot gives me the "main version is older" error. I have tried installing Unrevoked 3 and it gets past the last reboot, after "waiting for system to settle" message, it says "running root" for a few minutes then says "unable to get root, is your firmware too new?"
...so yea, I'm guessing I'm S.O.L.? Sorry kinda noob here, came from the Eris forum, I guess theres a few things that are different.
What problems are you having with the RUU that you flashed? You can't downgrade, as you found out, so being stock S-ON you don't have many options other than flashing a different 2.3 stock image, and/or waiting for the actual OTA.
resyek83 said:
Ok so I got impatient and installed the Gingerbread update that VZW pushed out a week or so ago, found the file here since I wasnt one of the lucky few to get the OTA push. I flashed it through HBOOT since it was a signed file, please note that I'm not rooted and the phone is completely stock. I want to go back to 2.2 stock and wait for the official, and apparently I'm not doing something right. running the RUU for the 2.2 gives me a bootloader version error, and dropping the zip named PB31IMG.zip and flashing through hboot gives me the "main version is older" error. I have tried installing Unrevoked 3 and it gets past the last reboot, after "waiting for system to settle" message, it says "running root" for a few minutes then says "unable to get root, is your firmware too new?"
...so yea, I'm guessing I'm S.O.L.? Sorry kinda noob here, came from the Eris forum, I guess theres a few things that are different.
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The only way i know to get back to 2.2 is to s-off your phone then ruu the 2.2. which will get you back to s-on 2.2, but you will be get the update nag every day once they start pushing the OTA out again.
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Ok so I got impatient and installed the Gingerbread update that VZW pushed out a week or so ago, found the file here since I wasnt one of the lucky few to get the OTA push. I flashed it through HBOOT since it was a signed file, please note that I'm not rooted and the phone is completely stock. I want to go back to 2.2 stock and wait for the official, and apparently I'm not doing something right. running the RUU for the 2.2 gives me a bootloader version error, and dropping the zip named PB31IMG.zip and flashing through hboot gives me the "main version is older" error. I have tried installing Unrevoked 3 and it gets past the last reboot, after "waiting for system to settle" message, it says "running root" for a few minutes then says "unable to get root, is your firmware too new?"
...so yea, I'm guessing I'm S.O.L.? Sorry kinda noob here, came from the Eris forum, I guess theres a few things that are different.
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For the moment, I think you are SOL, only because the same thing happened to me.
If you have 2.3.4 and S-ON, there's not really a way to downgrade back to 2.2, as HBOOT won't allow a downgrade. In fact, only PB31IMG.zip files that are signed by HTC will allow to be flashed. All others will not be recognized by HBOOT.
Unrevoked will no longer root after you have flashed RUU and have S-ON. You will get the error you are describing.
I have also tried newer root tools, such as Revolutionary, which is in the Beta phase.
Unfortunately, this method is not supported for the Incredible, and per Unrevoked's support channel on IRC, this is not likely, as apparently a phone that is only over a year old is considered a 'Legacy' device.
At this point we can only hope for the following:
HTC unlocks the Bootloader for the Droid Incredible on HTCdev.com. Only a handful of devices are listed at the moment.
Team Unrevoked releases a new version of Unrevoked that can find an exploit for 2.3.4 and enable root.
Revolutionary adds support for 'legacy' devices such as the incredible.
We are in a small minority, but hopefully enough devices will get the OTA, or refurbs get sent out with 2.3.4 that users will eventually require a new way to root.
Hang in there.
Yeah, if you're s on then from everything I've read, your screwed for now.
ahh ok....yea i kinda figured. I should have done a tad more research before I did it....everything works ok at the moment, except my battery life isnt as good as it was, but its not terrible. I guess I'll wait for the official OTA or wait and see if Unrevoked can come up with a solution.
your best option woulda been to root first. While you still had S-off flash the file you found here. Then if you wanted you could have reinstalled Clockwork recovery and superuser and either flash a stock rom or unroot. whats killing you is S-on.
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your best option woulda been to root first. While you still had S-on flash the file you found here. Then if you wanted you could have reinstalled Clockwork recovery and superuser and either flash a stock rom or unroot. whats killing you is S-off.
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Doing that with S-On is what has OP in this position in the first place. You have the right idea but mixed up S-On and S-Off.
TheBr0ken said:
your best option woulda been to root first. While you still had S-on flash the file you found here. Then if you wanted you could have reinstalled Clockwork recovery and superuser and either flash a stock rom or unroot. whats killing you is S-off.
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Thank you, Captain Hindsight. In my situation, I was coming from a Rooted, 2.3 Sense 3.0 ROM, with S-Off.
I believe S-off is swicthed back to S-ON when you flash the RUU.
In the mean time, my phone is borked. Too new of a firmware on too "old" of a device.
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Doing that with S-On is what has OP in this position in the first place. You have the right idea but mixed up S-On and S-Off.
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yup, fixed.
deadsoulboy said:
Thank you, Captain Hindsight. In my situation, I was coming from a Rooted, 2.3 Sense 3.0 ROM, with S-Off.
I believe S-off is swicthed back to S-ON when you flash the RUU.
In the mean time, my phone is borked. Too new of a firmware on too "old" of a device.
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what killed you was you musta flashed the s-on patch for some reason. I ran the same file you did. I still have s-off
The RUU does NOT turn the security flag to -ON. You do lose root until you flash a custom recovery and superuser, which is done easily.
Any hope for us S-ONs with 2.3.4? Is there something by way of unrevoked or something we can flash to try and get back to root?
There has to be something...
So I have a droid inc that I'm sending back in, and I want to revert it to stock. Right now, I'm running s-off, with a rooted stock OTA 2.3.4 (Incubusj's, I think) with the latest CWM. What do I need to do to make this thing bone stock to return it? I've done a search, and maybe I just suck at searching, but I can't find good, concise directions, and I don't want to screw it up.
sk8erord said:
So I have a droid inc that I'm sending back in, and I want to revert it to stock. Right now, I'm running s-off, with a rooted stock OTA 2.3.4 (Incubusj's, I think) with the latest CWM. What do I need to do to make this thing bone stock to return it? I've done a search, and maybe I just suck at searching, but I can't find good, concise directions, and I don't want to screw it up.
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Search for the Ultimate get back to stock thread. It'll tell you what you need to to to get back to Stock 2.2 with S-ON.
That thread seems rather old. I'm running the 2.15.10.07.07 radio on hboot .92. Do I still just run the s-on and then run the RUU?
Well, was probably unnecessary, but I reverted to the old radio, flashed a rooted stock rom, then ran s-on through recovery, then a stock pb31img rom through bootloader. So it is bone stock again.
sk8erord said:
That thread seems rather old. I'm running the 2.15.10.07.07 radio on hboot .92. Do I still just run the s-on and then run the RUU?
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True, that thread is old, but the info is still good. Good call on reverting back the radio, as you don't want that to cause any troubles. Pretty easy to get back to stock and S-ON huh?
Ok, a few users here have offered advice/assistance, but I fear this problem has been forgotten.
I am stuck with an S-ON, 2.3.4 Droid Incredible, and am looking for a way to acquire root again.
This happened a few weeks ago, with the leak of the 2.3.4 OTA. Flashed S-ON via CWM (not aware I would permanently lose Root), then flashed the OTA as PB31IMG.zip in HBOOT.
Now, Unrevoked no longer roots the device. HBOOT will not allow downgrading to a 2.2 IMG, nor will it flash any downgraded Radio/HBOOT versions. I've tried them all from Dougpiston.com, even the signed ones.
I've attempted to contact the folks at Unrevoked about this issue on IRC, but I can't ever get a reliable dialogue going with anyone, and I believe they are busy working on Revolution, for Incredible 2/S & Newer devices.
Throwing my hands up, I even called Verizon, gave them an excuse to send me a replacement, just so I could start fresh with a 2.2 phone, but I am out of warranty.
I really want to enjoy Sense 3.0/MIUI, even Cyanogenmod, but the outlook is not so good.
Is there any solution I haven't tried yet? Please help.
Unless Unrevoked or someone else finds a new root method you're pretty much out of luck.
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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That's most likely true. 2.3.4 is being pushed out to the Incredible now, so they would probably run the newest RUU on their Incredible devices.
I feel your pain deadsoulboy, and I've seen your posts lamenting your situation on other threads. Only solace I can offer you is that generally the source code and RUU are made available within 30 days of the OTA, at which point the developers are completely free to tear into them with reckless abandon and hopefully the folks at unrevoked figure things out.
It's also distinctly possible that HTC will unlock the bootloader the way it has with others of its handsets, in which case you'll be back in business.
Until then, my friend, I believe you are rootless.
i have the same problem. its been a couple months.... am i still hosed?
Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
I used Scotty1223's instructions a few weeks ago and it worked like a charm.
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
alexyaz said:
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
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Check this out. http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
I was able to run an older version of Unrevoked to establish SU access, but Unrevoked Forever is incompatible with my radio version. So, I have SU access, but I cannot remove or convert any applications using Titanium Backup. TB runs, but it reboots the phone if I try to remove system apps. HBOOT shows S-ON since Unrevoked Forever was not able to complete due to the radio version. So, am I stuck with S-ON? Is Unrevoked Forever going to continue developing releases to cover 2.15.10.07.07?
If I understand correctly, I cannot flash an older radio version with S-ON. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks!
HTC Incredible
2.3.4
Baseband: 2.15.10.07.07
you are correct,s-on will only let you go forward with "approved by htc" files. that means no backpeddling firmware to a rootable version,no flashing only a radio or recovery. im surprised that unrevoked even worked to get you su access,i was under the impression that all exploits had been patched in 2.3.4 source code. what happens if you try and install clockwork?
if you truly have su access,it seems it may be possible to use adb to rewrite the misc image,and thus be able to flash backwards in firmware.
however,from the sounds of the behavior youre describing for tibu,i dont believe you have su access. it prolly only put the app in the drawer,and was unable to place the matching binary.
we have been telling folks for months that they should become s-offed before the GB update,as it would be unrootable.
i bought an xtc clip awhile back that is supposed to support the incredible. i dont know that it will actually work,ill know for sure when it gets here. im told it only works with sim card phones,wich the inc is not,but its clearly listed in the supported devices.
your only real hope at this point is that someone finde a new exploit that will allow temp root and re-writing of the misc image so that you can flash older rootable firmware,or that alpharev/unrevoked can add the incredible to its supported devices list,as they use some sort of hboot trickery to get a hard patched permanent s-off hboot onto the phone first. from there you load a recovery thru hboot,then flash su in recovery.
sorry this isnt the news youre hoping for.
Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!
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Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!
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If you already have clockwork mod, flash the unrevoked forever zip from here
When I flash the zip file, I get E:/ unsupported radio version. E: update failed.
Do you have adb set up and running? Are you fairly comfortable copy/pasting commands?
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still with us? waiting for an answer to the above so we can procede
also is it possible you can post or PM me a link to the version of unrevoked you used?
if you dont have a link,just email me the whole file( [email protected] ) im extremely interested in trying to duplicate your condition and figuring out a reliable way for folks to downgrade and root.
Scotty,
I'm sorry for the delayed response.
I do not have ADB setup, but I have no problem following directions to get S-off and reclaim some memory!
I have emailed you the Unrevoked file to your email address. This should run perfectly on 2.3.4 with the exception of the last step of flashing unrevoked.zip for S-off. You will see the "unsupported radio version" errors on the phone's screen. Please let me know if there is anything else that I can do to help. Thank you for your help with this.
I got your email. I will put some stuff together for you,and try it out and see if it all works the way I hope it will. If so ill upload a mini-adb with some exploits files and post a guide. Basically,were just going to rewrite the misc image so you can downgrade back to froyo and run unrevoked forever. After you reroot and get s-off back,you can restore a backup of what you have now.
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Subscribing to thread. Looks interesting, Im hopeful it works out. Good luck!
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Ok after reading this thread again. My guide for the merge on froyo or the stuff I have for gingerbread for the merge will not work on a non emmc device. 2nd who buys a xtc clip and doesn't look what they buy? The way it works is with the sim card slot. Inc doesn't have one so it isn't going to work. It also isn't listed as supported as it would be pointless to say it does.
If I am not mistake with s-on you can't flash the recovery partition. So how did you get clockworkmod? If you have clockworkmod then you can flash non htc files. Well actually I am not sure how that would work as you have s-on but clockworkmod. Since I have never been in that boat I am unsure.
So are we talking about the inc or inc 2? If inc I am trying to think back to the desire and what was possible on s-on. If I remember right you can dump the misc then flash a lower version ruu. I just can't remember if it doesn't even flash or if it does and doesn't downgrade the radio. By the way I got it in a pm/here scotty was planning to base helping you off my merge guide. By the sounds of it anyway.
Where the commands are not the same. As the partitions would be different. The misc-image is also not the same so if he had you flash the merge misc it will more than likely bork stuff. I am more than willing to help though. How ever I do not check the forums so you are better off pming me. I will say that nothing will probably work until unrevoked supports the new radio.
Edit: If the incredible works with a goldcard. Dump the misc partition and edit it for the firmware version you want to downgrade to. Then run a lower version ruu. When that is done run unrevoked. Of course I don't have a inc so I am not sure if that will work either. I also jumped a bit to conclusions so sorry for that. I also do not get your one post about the xtc clip here, yet in that other post say the clip doesn't support the inc.
thanks for your input,but rest assured we are in no way shape or form refering to anything to do with drellisdees's guide,your copy of it,or any other files,guides,etc. you have linked or posted on this site or yours.
he allready has root access and a recovery partition.
again,thanks for your input,but please stop confusing the issue with your references to merge guides.
for others watching this,a crude guide is now up on android forums:
http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
root 2.3.4 with unrevoked 3.22 has now been done successfully twice,and 1 has successfully roled back to 2.2.
more testers welcome
Confirmed. Worked for me. Was s on 2.3.4.
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My Incredible also is S-on with Verizon 2.3.4 OTA and never rooted. I'll give that "crude guide" a try tonight and report back how it went.
I'm just tired of all the low memory notifications and the constant force closes. Hopefully, I can have a custom mod installed tonight if things go well.
SUCCESS!!
Instructions from the website flawlessly for me.
I first rooted the phone. Then I tested it with some root only apps. They all worked. So ideally you can stop here if all you want is root but next OTA will take away root and then you'll be stuck again.
I completed all the steps and they worked. I was able to downgrade to 2.2 and then run unrevoke3 to root and also turn S-off. It did wipe the data clean. No files from my SDcard were deleted.
This is the time i've rooted my phone and the whole process took me an hour because I was being extra careful not to miss any steps. It all went smoothly.
glad it worked out for you. we finally worked out enuff bugs i put it up here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
efizzle seems to have dropped off the face of the earth everyone who reads this should make sure to click the "thanks" button in his first post. we wouldnt have it if hadnt figured out the 3.22 secret.(we would still have zergRush,but not root with access and the ability to make nandroids and backups with tibu so easily).
once again,thanks efizzle
Worked like a champ. I did a recovery back to 2.3.4 and it worked as expected. Also brought back all my force close issues. So I used ROM Manager and installed Cyanogen7 and am loving it.
clicking the thanks button a few times for this help
Ok, I'm on Linux, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04.3 to be exact, and I have adb installed. Where can I find the Linux version of unrevoked 3.22. I have found several places on the interwebz but I'm not sure if I trust those sources.
Help Please
Just like the op I have a Dinc that is on Gingerbread 2.3.4 and baseband 2.15.10.07.07 and desperate to have root. S-OFF would be nice, but root would be just fine for now.
More than happy to be the Guinea-pig on a Linux system.
sorry,i have no idea. i did a quick search and couldnt even find the windows version of 3.22 that i uploaded... i wanted to link it at its source,since it was emailed to me,but im not sure where he downloaded it from. you might follow the link in the first post credits to the original xda thread and ask on that thread,or send efizzle a private message and see if he can help you. in a worse case scenario,as long as you have 3.32 for linux,you could get temp root and downgrade with the "zergRush" method described in past #2. it doesnt require 3.22,but you wont be able to make a backup,or run titanium unless you can push SU,the binary,and busybox to their respective locations after acquiring a temp root.
hey i just got a droid incredible from my sister (not going to use it as a phone) and i would like to root it and flash a custom ROM, im sorta know about rooting and flashing but i keep looking for ways to root this phone and its way difficult for me. i am not about to use adb or android sdk for some reason they never work with methods for my other phones. not sure how to get to recovery just goes to a hboot screen which i see is normal. a lot of the links are broken on methods to root i see that unrevoked dosent work with 2.3.4. and im really frustrated with this phone. it has 2.3.4. S-ON and hboot 1.0.7 i don't know how to do the radio stuff please help.
Trozzul said:
hey i just got a droid incredible from my sister (not going to use it as a phone) and i would like to root it and flash a custom ROM, im sorta know about rooting and flashing but i keep looking for ways to root this phone and its way difficult for me. i am not about to use adb or android sdk for some reason they never work with methods for my other phones. not sure how to get to recovery just goes to a hboot screen which i see is normal. a lot of the links are broken on methods to root i see that unrevoked dosent work with 2.3.4. and im really frustrated with this phone. it has 2.3.4. S-ON and hboot 1.0.7 i don't know how to do the radio stuff please help.
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The only way to root 2.3.4 is to unlock your bootloader using htcdev unlock, then use fastboot (an android sdk program) to flash a custom recovery. Once you have the recovery installed, you can flash a rom of your choosing. There are no one click options available since the inc got gingerbread. It requires a bunch of steps, but isnt all that hard. Here is a working guide if you decide to take the plunge. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258. Note that you do not need s-off to flash a rom, but you do need s-off to flash radios, hboots, and splash screens.
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