Ok, a few users here have offered advice/assistance, but I fear this problem has been forgotten.
I am stuck with an S-ON, 2.3.4 Droid Incredible, and am looking for a way to acquire root again.
This happened a few weeks ago, with the leak of the 2.3.4 OTA. Flashed S-ON via CWM (not aware I would permanently lose Root), then flashed the OTA as PB31IMG.zip in HBOOT.
Now, Unrevoked no longer roots the device. HBOOT will not allow downgrading to a 2.2 IMG, nor will it flash any downgraded Radio/HBOOT versions. I've tried them all from Dougpiston.com, even the signed ones.
I've attempted to contact the folks at Unrevoked about this issue on IRC, but I can't ever get a reliable dialogue going with anyone, and I believe they are busy working on Revolution, for Incredible 2/S & Newer devices.
Throwing my hands up, I even called Verizon, gave them an excuse to send me a replacement, just so I could start fresh with a 2.2 phone, but I am out of warranty.
I really want to enjoy Sense 3.0/MIUI, even Cyanogenmod, but the outlook is not so good.
Is there any solution I haven't tried yet? Please help.
Unless Unrevoked or someone else finds a new root method you're pretty much out of luck.
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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That's most likely true. 2.3.4 is being pushed out to the Incredible now, so they would probably run the newest RUU on their Incredible devices.
I feel your pain deadsoulboy, and I've seen your posts lamenting your situation on other threads. Only solace I can offer you is that generally the source code and RUU are made available within 30 days of the OTA, at which point the developers are completely free to tear into them with reckless abandon and hopefully the folks at unrevoked figure things out.
It's also distinctly possible that HTC will unlock the bootloader the way it has with others of its handsets, in which case you'll be back in business.
Until then, my friend, I believe you are rootless.
i have the same problem. its been a couple months.... am i still hosed?
Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
I used Scotty1223's instructions a few weeks ago and it worked like a charm.
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
alexyaz said:
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
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Check this out. http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
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hello all: im as newbie as it gets with this rooting,but very good at following instructions and very computer savy.I have a droid incredible with software 2.2,which Im trying to root.using unrevoked 3.21 I have followed all instructions to the tee,all goes well till the end,it says waiting for root,and stays that way for as long as you leave it. Ive tried 4 different computers all running win 7,one 64 bit,the other 3 are 32 bit,all with same result,(waiting for root) I first loaded the modified usb driver from unrevoked, it shows android bootloader interface good to go under android phone in device manager.I start the reflash program, made sure usb debugging was on made sure phone was connecting in charge mode,made sure unknown sources could be installed. I even tried installing htc sync,then uninstalling,because another site said drivers from htc sync were needed. nothing has got me by waiting for root. I have seen this same problem over and over on many different sites,but as of yet to see one fix, the procedure for unrevoked 3.21 seems very simple and straight forward, but every answer Ive seen to this problem,points back to original instructions,which Ive done over and over. any new ideas would be greatly appreciated. thanx in advance.
There are several threads here already discussing how the Nov 15th?? OTA firmware update that VZW pushed to the incredible can not be rooted in the same way as past versions.
And therefore the 3.21 version of the Unrevoked tool (reflash_package.exe) does NOT WORK, and we need to wait for them to update it.
Those who had the older firmware, rooted it, and used Unrevoked Forever to gain S-OFF (not the same as the "reflash-package.exe" rooting tool) do have options.
BUT Any one who has received in INC with this recent OTA firmware update but didn't have "S-OFF" (like due to a recent purchase, warranty replacement phone, being prompted about the upgrade and saying "yes" to accept it being installed), will have to wait.
Tips...
what is s-off? see -> http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
What is the "reflash_pacakge.exe" rooting tool? (aka Unrevoked3)? see -> http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
Thanks Kid, I appreciate it, sorry for it being a stupid question,but I guess everybody has to start somewhere! reminds me when satellite tv cards were being programmed,you could ask almost any question,and many people would always reply,read ,read and read some more.I spent 2 days reading and trying to root my phone,simply because I should be able to delete any software on it I choose to.I've never bought any computer I couldnt delete software I dont use or like. After 2 days I thought maybe I was out of luck until new software,but wasnt going to give up until I was sure,thanx for being the ONE person to fill me in!!
AHHH, I was wondering what all this waiting for root threads were about. Guess since I'm s-off and running SR I was out of the loop. I think I'd be totally freaked by now if I lost root on my phone. LOL!
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There are several threads here already discussing how the Nov 15th?? OTA firmware update that VZW pushed to the incredible can not be rooted in the same way as past versions.
And therefore the 3.21 version of the Unrevoked tool (reflash_package.exe) does NOT WORK, and we need to wait for them to update it.
Those who had the older firmware, rooted it, and used Unrevoked Forever to gain S-OFF (not the same as the "reflash-package.exe" rooting tool) do have options.
BUT Any one who has received in INC with this recent OTA firmware update but didn't have "S-OFF" (like due to a recent purchase, warranty replacement phone, being prompted about the upgrade and saying "yes" to accept it being installed), will have to wait.
Tips...
what is s-off? see -> http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
What is the "reflash_pacakge.exe" rooting tool? (aka Unrevoked3)? see -> http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
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I am not sure if UnRevoked has changed anything, but believe I was able to root today using the UnRevoked tool after taking the new OTA update. See the thread below and let me know what you think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9392730#post9392730
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KidJoe
I am not sure if UnRevoked has changed anything, but believe I was able to root today using the UnRevoked tool after taking the new OTA update. See the thread below and let me know what you think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9392730#post9392730
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Not sure. Were you S-OFF before you tried that? If so that could be why it worked.
For those that are still S-ON, this set of instructions could work -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9384491&postcount=199 It did for me on my GF's AMOLED Inc that was S-On and received the latest OTA update. Now she's S-Off and Rooted with the Nov 15th update. If you have SLCD, then read some of the posts after that one before trying, (like Post #205 & 206)
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Not sure. Were you S-OFF before you tried that? If so that could be why it worked.
For those that are still S-ON, this set of instructions could work -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9384491&postcount=199 It did for me on my GF's AMOLED Inc that was S-On and received the latest OTA update. Now she's S-Off and Rooted with the Nov 15th update. If you have SLCD, then read some of the posts after that one before trying, (like Post #205 & 206)
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I have had S-Off but when I returned to the stock 2.2 it also turned S-On. I followed these instructions to return to stock with S-Off. Probably for AMOLED only.
http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/181255-how-downgrade-official-2-2-a.html
I took the OTA then I used the reflash tool as described in my other post.
Sounds like you did something similar.
unrevoked dev team
@unrevoked unrevoked dev team
Inc folks -- we're really sorry for the delay. We have a fix, left to do is testing it and packing it up to ship. Final exams eat time...
this is the newest update
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unrevoked dev team
@unrevoked unrevoked dev team
inc folks -- we're really sorry for the delay. We have a fix, left to do is testing it and packing it up to ship. Final exams eat time...
This is the newest update
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well this is good news!!
Afternoon all,
I will try to provide all of the information I can in hopes someone can give me an idea on where I stand and where I need to go from here to get my phone the way I would like it.
Incoming Evo information:
MEID - A100000D98BC65
Version - 0002
Baseband - 2.15.00.07.28
Kernel - 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 #58
Build - 3.26.651.6
PRI - 1.34_003
PRL - 60674
Bootloader Information:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-2 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT- 0.93.0000
Root Method - Simple Root (forget which version)
Quick Background:
I don't know much about rooting phones but have come to understand the process and reasons behind it over the past several months. Purchased my phone on release, rooted it very early, all is great. I have always had the S-ON feature on my phone and it seems that several ROM's I would like to take advantage of require the S-OFF feature as to my understanding, it means you have "full root". I could be/probably am wrong here.
With the talk of backing up RSA keys to not lose 4G and other hiccups popping up, I want to make sure I use the best possible method to get everything as it should be. I currently ran the original PC136IMG (I believe this is the RUU) to bring my phone to "stock". My reasoning behind this was to push my phone to full stock and re-root to attain the S-OFF feature.
Now when I boot into bootloader and attempt to flash, I get a black screen with an EVO and a Red triangle/exclamation sign. What throws me off is because I can get into the bootloader, running the aforementioned RUU didn't seem to unroot me. To be honest, I don't even know if there is a full unroot method even avilable as numerous Google searches really give a wide variety of answers.
What I am trying to do:
All I would like to do is unroot my phone and then re-root it with a newer method so I can have S-OFF feature and update all my Radios/PRI/etc.... that I need to do so I can get the full functionality of my phone. I *think* Calk has a thread on this and although I have read it numerous times, maybe I am to dense to get it and need a helping hand. If anymore information is needed, I am happy to oblige. Thanks to anyone who can lend me a hand.
You kind of jumped the gun with the unrooting, you could have just ran Unrevoked Forever and called it a day. But now that you are unrooted, use Unrevoked 3.32 and that will fully root your phone for you, including replacing your recovery (I believe it gives you Clockwork). Do that, you'll be good to go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896298
Can you update to thread newest sprint software update (3.70)?
Sent from my evil evo!!
evolishesh said:
Can you update to thread newest sprint software update (3.70)?
Sent from my evil evo!!
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Just go to settings system updates ,HTC update ,and make it phone search for ota,it should prompt u to download the 3.70 update and than ull know u r full unrooted and up to date,than run unrevoked ,,,,that way ull b updated and rooted...
Thanks for the quick advice. My only worry with unrevoked is I have heard that it has the possibility of losing RSA keys. Does that have any truth behind it or will unrevoked put me to S-OFF and from there I am golden.
I ran Unrevoked3 earlier today. I downloaded an Amon recovery img and had unrevoked install that (File / Custom Recovery) instead of Clockwork after hearing about some WiMax issues with Clockwork.
After completing the root, I did step 6A from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045. This should back up the RSA keys, after the fact at least. You need to be rooted to complete the steps using adb.
So far no trouble with 4G. It connects to sprint and lets me transfer data, so things look good. FWIW, my radio is 2.15.00.11.19, with PRI 1.90_003, on software 3.70.651.1.
Quick update. First, thank you all for your contributions to me with this. I went ahead and followed the unrevoked method and everything seems to look good on my end. All updates are there, S-OFF is on (terrible at puns), and all is well for now at least. Also, thanks for the help on that Skypoint but I have yet to venture into the wild wilderness that is adb which I will probably leave for another day. Anyways, thanks once more all as I do really appreciate it.
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Quick update. First, thank you all for your contributions to me with this. I went ahead and followed the unrevoked method and everything seems to look good on my end. All updates are there, S-OFF is on (terrible at puns), and all is well for now at least. Also, thanks for the help on that Skypoint but I have yet to venture into the wild wilderness that is adb which I will probably leave for another day. Anyways, thanks once more all as I do really appreciate it.
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Glad you got it all worked out
Phone won't load recovery -
My phone currently has 2.3.3 and will not root because the firmware is too "new" according to Unrevoked.
How do I backtrack to 2.2?
Also, the phone is not rooted (s-on) and recovery once again will not load properly; i get the red exclamation.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
There are a few threads addressing this issue already, and the short answer from what I have found in my research, because I too took the OTA update and have looked in to this myself, is that there is no option.
If you are S-ON and have the new Bootloader and newest OTA update, you just have to hang tight until the devs behind Unrevoked or other such methods figure out a workaround for the newest bootloader.
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Phone won't load recovery -
My phone currently has 2.3.3 and will not root because the firmware is too "new" according to Unrevoked.
How do I backtrack to 2.2?
Also, the phone is not rooted (s-on) and recovery once again will not load properly; i get the red exclamation.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
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Hey man, I am sorry to inform you that there is currently no root method for the software you're on. You can't downgrade to 2.2, the RUU won't let you do it. The new bootloader that you're on is not downgradeable, and it is still currently locked. Hopefully a new exploit is figured out soon, but for now you just need to wait it out. Or trade your Evo with someone who still has froyo!
Thanks for the info guys.
Not sure is any of this could render your phone without functionality and If you are willing to give it a shot, try the first part of my post. After I unrooted the defective EVO to accept the OTA (since it was going back in a day anyway and didn't care if the root was lost) adn it was along with my .76 Hboot. I was able to get root back by using the HBOOT in stock recovery and loading the RUU posted with of course loading the usb drivers. Now, to be honest, I never used unrevoked to begin with on that EVO, so never checked son/soff before.
If for some glorious reason you are able to load the ruu and it comes up...try the root option also posted from the link to xHausx.
Here's hoping....but reality will probably set in and a short wait is needed for a real method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14496385#post14496385
unfortunately no root for 2.3 but rumor has it that htc is working on unlocking the new bootloader with a update coming in the near future prob 2.3.4
My wife got her replacement Inc2 today after the one she got last week just died. She was on Froyo so I might of.. swapped her phones.. anyways, I rooted, went to the bathroom and the stupid ota ran I guess because when I came back the phone was on GB 2.3.3 however my boot screen shows S-OFF. Can anyone help me to verify that S-OFF is indeed still off. I can post any screen shots etc.. I am still a noob when it comes to the Inc2.
If your boot screen says S-Off, you are S-Off
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Did you flash clockworkmod recovery when you rooted? I didn't think the OTA would take if you had a custom recovery. In any event, since you're still s-off, you're fine.
I actually hadn't flashed recovery yet. Went ahead and flashed recovery. Superuser installed but busybox keeps failing. I am manually installing them since the patch I found also includes a rooted kernel but it is for Froyo.
The biggest deal for me is I am still S-OFF. I'm just confused as to how I managed to remain S-OFF after the OTA went through. If I can't get busybox installed I'll probably install Ginger Sense to obtain it.
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I actually hadn't flashed recovery yet. Went ahead and flashed recovery. Superuser installed but busybox keeps failing. I am manually installing them since the patch I found also includes a rooted kernel but it is for Froyo.
The biggest deal for me is I am still S-OFF. I'm just confused as to how I managed to remain S-OFF after the OTA went through. If I can't get busybox installed I'll probably install Ginger Sense to obtain it.
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Alpharev changed ur hboot to a higer version than the one in the OTA.. this is why it kept you S-OFF.. if I'm wrong someone correct me.
So basically I just got really lucky and kept my S-OFF even though the OTA went through.
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So basically I just got really lucky and kept my S-OFF even though the OTA went through.
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No. stock hboot is .97. alpharev bumped you up to 1.something.. idk I used XTC clip.. since your hboot is newer than the OTA.. it keeps you S-OFF, pretty smart by alpha.
So does this open a gateway to first root in Froyo and then go gingerbread and retain the root?
Only way to be able to tell is to have someone repeat my steps which were: stock froyo, run AlphaRevX, did not flash recovery, Run OTA (this happened by accident I did not intend for the OTA to go through) after the OTA is finished reboot and if it is indeed a "gateway" then S-OFF would still be on. (After seeing S-OFF was on (and making sure it was okay) I went ahead and installed cwm recovery at that point)
Now when I use the term "gateway" I say this loosely because it doesn't fix anything for anyone who is already on GB. If indeed this works, it would only work for a small percentage who get Froyo and don't flash clockwork before running the OTA.
I just got my Inc2 as a replacement for my fascinate, came with 2.1 might try your steps and see if my root will stay after doing the OTA
tnez said:
I just got my Inc2 as a replacement for my fascinate, came with 2.1 might try your steps and see if my root will stay after doing the OTA
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2.1??? I think you are mistaken, sir
beenz said:
2.1??? I think you are mistaken, sir
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He was mistaken cause it is sense 2.1 but android 2.2
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kujayhawks77 said:
Only way to be able to tell is to have someone repeat my steps which were: stock froyo, run AlphaRevX, did not flash recovery, Run OTA (this happened by accident I did not intend for the OTA to go through) after the OTA is finished reboot and if it is indeed a "gateway" then S-OFF would still be on. (After seeing S-OFF was on (and making sure it was okay) I went ahead and installed cwm recovery at that point)
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I've been wondering about this. I got my Dinc2 early July and I'm still on stock, unrooted Froyo. Somehow the OTA update to GB hasn't hit yet. Could I run ApharevX to get S-off and stop there for now? I am happy with bloated stock for the time being and want to be able to receive OTA updates, but would like to have the option down the road to add Clockworkmod and flash custom ROMs. From kujayhawks experience it seems that this should be possible.
Basically, if I achieve S-off with AlpharevX now, will I be able to pretty much do anything later?
P.S. First post, though I've been lurking around for a while. Great forum/community.
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Basically, if I achieve S-off with AlpharevX now, will I be able to pretty much do anything later?
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It appears from reports that S-off stays after the OTA to 2.3, so yea, that would seem to be the case.
If you turn S-off with AlphaRev, you might want to just go ahead and install Clockwork recovery at the same time. Doing so won't root or install SuperUser or anything, but you would be able to then backup your phone and be ready to flash if you wanted.
If you install clockwork recovery you won't be able to receive OTAs though, just keep that in mind. You can flash back to the stock recovery, but unless you are familiar with ADB, it won't necessarily be an easy process.
So I had to get a replacement Incredible because mine broke. My old one was fully rooted and s off. The replacement I got came with Gingerbread 2.3.4. I managed to get it rooted but not get s off. I have the latest clockworks recovery and can do backups etc. But I can't get s off.
I have been unable to use the downgrade method or do anything. But using a root checker it still shows I am rooted.
I felt pretty comfortable with the old phone swapping roms etc but now I feel like and idiot cause I just can't figure this out...LOL
Hope some of the experts can help/
The only way you can get s-off is with unrevoked forever. It requires an older radio from stock froyo. Since you cant flash a radio wile s-on the only way to get it would be to downgrade with the froyo ruu. There is a good thread in the q&a section i believe on how to downgrade from 2.3.4. Some have had success with it and others not so much.
EDIT: Here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
I have tried this method but can't seem to get it to work. When doing the commands there is one stage where it should push the file to the phone. I think this is where the problem is because it says 0k of XXXXX. Or whatever the total file size is.
I will play more I suppose.