Phone won't load recovery -
My phone currently has 2.3.3 and will not root because the firmware is too "new" according to Unrevoked.
How do I backtrack to 2.2?
Also, the phone is not rooted (s-on) and recovery once again will not load properly; i get the red exclamation.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
There are a few threads addressing this issue already, and the short answer from what I have found in my research, because I too took the OTA update and have looked in to this myself, is that there is no option.
If you are S-ON and have the new Bootloader and newest OTA update, you just have to hang tight until the devs behind Unrevoked or other such methods figure out a workaround for the newest bootloader.
denxnis said:
Phone won't load recovery -
My phone currently has 2.3.3 and will not root because the firmware is too "new" according to Unrevoked.
How do I backtrack to 2.2?
Also, the phone is not rooted (s-on) and recovery once again will not load properly; i get the red exclamation.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
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Hey man, I am sorry to inform you that there is currently no root method for the software you're on. You can't downgrade to 2.2, the RUU won't let you do it. The new bootloader that you're on is not downgradeable, and it is still currently locked. Hopefully a new exploit is figured out soon, but for now you just need to wait it out. Or trade your Evo with someone who still has froyo!
Thanks for the info guys.
Not sure is any of this could render your phone without functionality and If you are willing to give it a shot, try the first part of my post. After I unrooted the defective EVO to accept the OTA (since it was going back in a day anyway and didn't care if the root was lost) adn it was along with my .76 Hboot. I was able to get root back by using the HBOOT in stock recovery and loading the RUU posted with of course loading the usb drivers. Now, to be honest, I never used unrevoked to begin with on that EVO, so never checked son/soff before.
If for some glorious reason you are able to load the ruu and it comes up...try the root option also posted from the link to xHausx.
Here's hoping....but reality will probably set in and a short wait is needed for a real method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14496385#post14496385
unfortunately no root for 2.3 but rumor has it that htc is working on unlocking the new bootloader with a update coming in the near future prob 2.3.4
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alrighty so here it is the ota is coming and i silly as i may be rooted like 3-4 days ago. i didnt take the time to s-off just got the custom recovery updated the radio to 2.05 and downloaded sky raider vanilla. hboot is .79.
now from my research that ive gather and correct me if im wrong but all i need to do is :
*s-off
*flash the stock recovery
after that i should be good for the ota correct?
so far i got the s-off done looking for a lil bit of instruction as to how to get the stock recovery flashed safely.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated i thank you all very much.
inessi said:
alrighty so here it is the ota is coming and i silly as i may be rooted like 3-4 days ago. i didnt take the time to s-off just got the custom recovery updated the radio to 2.05 and downloaded sky raider vanilla. hboot is .79.
now from my research that ive gather and correct me if im wrong but all i need to do is :
*s-off
*flash the stock recovery
after that i should be good for the ota correct?
so far i got the s-off done looking for a lil bit of instruction as to how to get the stock recovery flashed safely.
Any and all help is greatly appreciated i thank you all very much.
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I have attached the stock recovery that needs to be flashed from the HBOOT.
It is my understanding however, that you need to downgrade to the .77 HBOOT, 1.xx radio AND 2.1 system for the update to notify you, give you the option to download, and install successfully. However, I am a few drinks into my night.
If you choose to follow that path. I suggest you read this
awesome stuff really appreciate it man gonna give it a try now, fellow floridian lol
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awesome stuff really appreciate it man gonna give it a try now, fellow floridian lol
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w00t!
If you get hung up anywhere, pm me and I'll give you a number to call me at in the morning/afternoon and I'll walk you through it.
your my hero bud, my freaking hero stock recovery got s-off i think thats all i need to recieve the ota and do it yea?
thnx
See, from this point, I'm not sure if you need the .77 HBOOT 1.xx Radio and 2.1build-1 on your phone (I'm really questioning it, as I beleive I read in a few places that you do, but I'm not sure at this point in the evening). I don't think the Skyraider rom will get a notification when the update is available. I'd say if you don't get a notification for the update when everyone else in the free world is, then you may have to.
As long as you have S-OFF, it doesn't matter either way, you have complete control for the rest of your phone's life. Whatever you do, don't turn it back on lol.
hmmm well if it doesnt show up guess my next set of questions is how to get back to stock everything
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hmmm well if it doesnt show up guess my next set of questions is how to get back to stock everything
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The link I posted above with the "I suggest you read this" line is where you will need to go if it boils down to that.
o haha some how i missed that lil section of text did you just add that recently?
but ok sounds good ill run through it in the morning probably
and holy crap the link you posted makes this all look so simple hah
Well I have stock everything, except for my hboot is .79, im on stock 2.1 stock recovery just have .79 hboot not .77, i think i will still get the update though...
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See, from this point, I'm not sure if you need the .77 HBOOT 1.xx Radio and 2.1build-1 on your phone (I'm really questioning it, as I beleive I read in a few places that you do, but I'm not sure at this point in the evening). I don't think the Skyraider rom will get a notification when the update is available. I'd say if you don't get a notification for the update when everyone else in the free world is, then you may have to.
As long as you have S-OFF, it doesn't matter either way, you have complete control for the rest of your phone's life. Whatever you do, don't turn it back on lol.
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I too am awaiting the OTA update and was concerned. My phone is running 2.1 update 1 and is rooted. Will this prevent me from receiving the OTA update? If so what steps do I need to take to make sure I get the update then? Also should I put on unrevoked forever? If I do so will I need to do anything other than that to still receive the OTA update and keep root access?
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I too am awaiting the OTA update and was concerned. My phone is running 2.1 update 1 and is rooted. Will this prevent me from receiving the OTA update? If so what steps do I need to take to make sure I get the update then? Also should I put on unrevoked forever? If I do so will I need to do anything other than that to still receive the OTA update and keep root access?
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Other than the root, did you modify anything else to your phone?
If not, your still with the .77 HBOOT, 1.xx baseband, and 2.1update-1 system?
Add unrevoked forever to remove s-off, then flash the stock recovery back to your phone. Your goal here is to have S-Off
in order to get the OTA (from my understanding) you need the stock recovery, do a little search I have all the faith in the world that you will find what you are looking for. you want to run unrevoked forever BEFORE you accept the OTA2.2, so this is your steps, root, run unrevoked forever getting S-OFF, find the file for the stock recovery, PB..IMG file, flash that in hboot, this will set u back to stock 2.1 update1, stock radio, stock recovery, but still have S-OFF to regain root, after the OTA comes.
So if I have stock everything, and have hboot .79 will I still get the OTA I don't see why not...
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in order to get the OTA (from my understanding) you need the stock recovery, do a little search I have all the faith in the world that you will find what you are looking for. you want to run unrevoked forever BEFORE you accept the OTA2.2, so this is your steps, root, run unrevoked forever getting S-OFF, find the file for the stock recovery, PB..IMG file, flash that in hboot, this will set u back to stock 2.1 update1, stock radio, stock recovery, but still have S-OFF to regain root, after the OTA comes.
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Currently the only thing I have done was rooted and removed CityID and but have not changed the radio or anything else. I have installed Unrevoked forever now. So do I still need to flash stock recovery even though I haven't changed the boot files or radio files at all?
Yes from what I've read you HAVE to have the stock recovery. what is your HBOOT once u get stock recovery?
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Yes from what I've read you HAVE to have the stock recovery. what is your HBOOT once u get stock recovery?
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My HBOOT is 0.79.0000
Radio 1.00.03.04.06
Any input would be helpful as to whether I will get OTA or do I need to do something.
once in hboot, go to recovery, if you have clockwork you wont get it i dont think, if you get a red triangle you have stock recovery and you are good to go.
magneto417x said:
I too am awaiting the OTA update and was concerned. My phone is running 2.1 update 1 and is rooted. Will this prevent me from receiving the OTA update? If so what steps do I need to take to make sure I get the update then? Also should I put on unrevoked forever? If I do so will I need to do anything other than that to still receive the OTA update and keep root access?
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Yes, install unrevoked forever. The fact that you are rooted will not affect the ability of your upgrade, it is the lack of the stock recovery that will halt you.
Unrevoked forever will allow you to flash ANY zip file you want to the phone (namely a zip that has su and Superuser.apk) and will allow you to regain root in the event that it is ever lost due to an OTA or user error.
S-OFF is a beautiful thing.
I would love to take my phone to Verizon right now with a manufactured problem, let him see the Superuser, official 2.2 system and then stock recovery. Could be priceless!
hello all: im as newbie as it gets with this rooting,but very good at following instructions and very computer savy.I have a droid incredible with software 2.2,which Im trying to root.using unrevoked 3.21 I have followed all instructions to the tee,all goes well till the end,it says waiting for root,and stays that way for as long as you leave it. Ive tried 4 different computers all running win 7,one 64 bit,the other 3 are 32 bit,all with same result,(waiting for root) I first loaded the modified usb driver from unrevoked, it shows android bootloader interface good to go under android phone in device manager.I start the reflash program, made sure usb debugging was on made sure phone was connecting in charge mode,made sure unknown sources could be installed. I even tried installing htc sync,then uninstalling,because another site said drivers from htc sync were needed. nothing has got me by waiting for root. I have seen this same problem over and over on many different sites,but as of yet to see one fix, the procedure for unrevoked 3.21 seems very simple and straight forward, but every answer Ive seen to this problem,points back to original instructions,which Ive done over and over. any new ideas would be greatly appreciated. thanx in advance.
There are several threads here already discussing how the Nov 15th?? OTA firmware update that VZW pushed to the incredible can not be rooted in the same way as past versions.
And therefore the 3.21 version of the Unrevoked tool (reflash_package.exe) does NOT WORK, and we need to wait for them to update it.
Those who had the older firmware, rooted it, and used Unrevoked Forever to gain S-OFF (not the same as the "reflash-package.exe" rooting tool) do have options.
BUT Any one who has received in INC with this recent OTA firmware update but didn't have "S-OFF" (like due to a recent purchase, warranty replacement phone, being prompted about the upgrade and saying "yes" to accept it being installed), will have to wait.
Tips...
what is s-off? see -> http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
What is the "reflash_pacakge.exe" rooting tool? (aka Unrevoked3)? see -> http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
Thanks Kid, I appreciate it, sorry for it being a stupid question,but I guess everybody has to start somewhere! reminds me when satellite tv cards were being programmed,you could ask almost any question,and many people would always reply,read ,read and read some more.I spent 2 days reading and trying to root my phone,simply because I should be able to delete any software on it I choose to.I've never bought any computer I couldnt delete software I dont use or like. After 2 days I thought maybe I was out of luck until new software,but wasnt going to give up until I was sure,thanx for being the ONE person to fill me in!!
AHHH, I was wondering what all this waiting for root threads were about. Guess since I'm s-off and running SR I was out of the loop. I think I'd be totally freaked by now if I lost root on my phone. LOL!
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There are several threads here already discussing how the Nov 15th?? OTA firmware update that VZW pushed to the incredible can not be rooted in the same way as past versions.
And therefore the 3.21 version of the Unrevoked tool (reflash_package.exe) does NOT WORK, and we need to wait for them to update it.
Those who had the older firmware, rooted it, and used Unrevoked Forever to gain S-OFF (not the same as the "reflash-package.exe" rooting tool) do have options.
BUT Any one who has received in INC with this recent OTA firmware update but didn't have "S-OFF" (like due to a recent purchase, warranty replacement phone, being prompted about the upgrade and saying "yes" to accept it being installed), will have to wait.
Tips...
what is s-off? see -> http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
What is the "reflash_pacakge.exe" rooting tool? (aka Unrevoked3)? see -> http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
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I am not sure if UnRevoked has changed anything, but believe I was able to root today using the UnRevoked tool after taking the new OTA update. See the thread below and let me know what you think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9392730#post9392730
SortaSmart said:
KidJoe
I am not sure if UnRevoked has changed anything, but believe I was able to root today using the UnRevoked tool after taking the new OTA update. See the thread below and let me know what you think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9392730#post9392730
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Not sure. Were you S-OFF before you tried that? If so that could be why it worked.
For those that are still S-ON, this set of instructions could work -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9384491&postcount=199 It did for me on my GF's AMOLED Inc that was S-On and received the latest OTA update. Now she's S-Off and Rooted with the Nov 15th update. If you have SLCD, then read some of the posts after that one before trying, (like Post #205 & 206)
KidJoe said:
Not sure. Were you S-OFF before you tried that? If so that could be why it worked.
For those that are still S-ON, this set of instructions could work -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9384491&postcount=199 It did for me on my GF's AMOLED Inc that was S-On and received the latest OTA update. Now she's S-Off and Rooted with the Nov 15th update. If you have SLCD, then read some of the posts after that one before trying, (like Post #205 & 206)
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I have had S-Off but when I returned to the stock 2.2 it also turned S-On. I followed these instructions to return to stock with S-Off. Probably for AMOLED only.
http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/181255-how-downgrade-official-2-2-a.html
I took the OTA then I used the reflash tool as described in my other post.
Sounds like you did something similar.
unrevoked dev team
@unrevoked unrevoked dev team
Inc folks -- we're really sorry for the delay. We have a fix, left to do is testing it and packing it up to ship. Final exams eat time...
this is the newest update
hoag50 said:
unrevoked dev team
@unrevoked unrevoked dev team
inc folks -- we're really sorry for the delay. We have a fix, left to do is testing it and packing it up to ship. Final exams eat time...
This is the newest update
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well this is good news!!
My wife got her replacement Inc2 today after the one she got last week just died. She was on Froyo so I might of.. swapped her phones.. anyways, I rooted, went to the bathroom and the stupid ota ran I guess because when I came back the phone was on GB 2.3.3 however my boot screen shows S-OFF. Can anyone help me to verify that S-OFF is indeed still off. I can post any screen shots etc.. I am still a noob when it comes to the Inc2.
If your boot screen says S-Off, you are S-Off
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Did you flash clockworkmod recovery when you rooted? I didn't think the OTA would take if you had a custom recovery. In any event, since you're still s-off, you're fine.
I actually hadn't flashed recovery yet. Went ahead and flashed recovery. Superuser installed but busybox keeps failing. I am manually installing them since the patch I found also includes a rooted kernel but it is for Froyo.
The biggest deal for me is I am still S-OFF. I'm just confused as to how I managed to remain S-OFF after the OTA went through. If I can't get busybox installed I'll probably install Ginger Sense to obtain it.
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I actually hadn't flashed recovery yet. Went ahead and flashed recovery. Superuser installed but busybox keeps failing. I am manually installing them since the patch I found also includes a rooted kernel but it is for Froyo.
The biggest deal for me is I am still S-OFF. I'm just confused as to how I managed to remain S-OFF after the OTA went through. If I can't get busybox installed I'll probably install Ginger Sense to obtain it.
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Alpharev changed ur hboot to a higer version than the one in the OTA.. this is why it kept you S-OFF.. if I'm wrong someone correct me.
So basically I just got really lucky and kept my S-OFF even though the OTA went through.
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So basically I just got really lucky and kept my S-OFF even though the OTA went through.
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No. stock hboot is .97. alpharev bumped you up to 1.something.. idk I used XTC clip.. since your hboot is newer than the OTA.. it keeps you S-OFF, pretty smart by alpha.
So does this open a gateway to first root in Froyo and then go gingerbread and retain the root?
Only way to be able to tell is to have someone repeat my steps which were: stock froyo, run AlphaRevX, did not flash recovery, Run OTA (this happened by accident I did not intend for the OTA to go through) after the OTA is finished reboot and if it is indeed a "gateway" then S-OFF would still be on. (After seeing S-OFF was on (and making sure it was okay) I went ahead and installed cwm recovery at that point)
Now when I use the term "gateway" I say this loosely because it doesn't fix anything for anyone who is already on GB. If indeed this works, it would only work for a small percentage who get Froyo and don't flash clockwork before running the OTA.
I just got my Inc2 as a replacement for my fascinate, came with 2.1 might try your steps and see if my root will stay after doing the OTA
tnez said:
I just got my Inc2 as a replacement for my fascinate, came with 2.1 might try your steps and see if my root will stay after doing the OTA
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2.1??? I think you are mistaken, sir
beenz said:
2.1??? I think you are mistaken, sir
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He was mistaken cause it is sense 2.1 but android 2.2
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kujayhawks77 said:
Only way to be able to tell is to have someone repeat my steps which were: stock froyo, run AlphaRevX, did not flash recovery, Run OTA (this happened by accident I did not intend for the OTA to go through) after the OTA is finished reboot and if it is indeed a "gateway" then S-OFF would still be on. (After seeing S-OFF was on (and making sure it was okay) I went ahead and installed cwm recovery at that point)
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I've been wondering about this. I got my Dinc2 early July and I'm still on stock, unrooted Froyo. Somehow the OTA update to GB hasn't hit yet. Could I run ApharevX to get S-off and stop there for now? I am happy with bloated stock for the time being and want to be able to receive OTA updates, but would like to have the option down the road to add Clockworkmod and flash custom ROMs. From kujayhawks experience it seems that this should be possible.
Basically, if I achieve S-off with AlpharevX now, will I be able to pretty much do anything later?
P.S. First post, though I've been lurking around for a while. Great forum/community.
xenakis said:
Basically, if I achieve S-off with AlpharevX now, will I be able to pretty much do anything later?
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It appears from reports that S-off stays after the OTA to 2.3, so yea, that would seem to be the case.
If you turn S-off with AlphaRev, you might want to just go ahead and install Clockwork recovery at the same time. Doing so won't root or install SuperUser or anything, but you would be able to then backup your phone and be ready to flash if you wanted.
If you install clockwork recovery you won't be able to receive OTAs though, just keep that in mind. You can flash back to the stock recovery, but unless you are familiar with ADB, it won't necessarily be an easy process.
Ok, a few users here have offered advice/assistance, but I fear this problem has been forgotten.
I am stuck with an S-ON, 2.3.4 Droid Incredible, and am looking for a way to acquire root again.
This happened a few weeks ago, with the leak of the 2.3.4 OTA. Flashed S-ON via CWM (not aware I would permanently lose Root), then flashed the OTA as PB31IMG.zip in HBOOT.
Now, Unrevoked no longer roots the device. HBOOT will not allow downgrading to a 2.2 IMG, nor will it flash any downgraded Radio/HBOOT versions. I've tried them all from Dougpiston.com, even the signed ones.
I've attempted to contact the folks at Unrevoked about this issue on IRC, but I can't ever get a reliable dialogue going with anyone, and I believe they are busy working on Revolution, for Incredible 2/S & Newer devices.
Throwing my hands up, I even called Verizon, gave them an excuse to send me a replacement, just so I could start fresh with a 2.2 phone, but I am out of warranty.
I really want to enjoy Sense 3.0/MIUI, even Cyanogenmod, but the outlook is not so good.
Is there any solution I haven't tried yet? Please help.
Unless Unrevoked or someone else finds a new root method you're pretty much out of luck.
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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Yep, same situation here, nothing will re-root if you did the GB OTA with S-ON bootloader. just have to wait and see if somebody comes up with something new or Unrevoked comes up with a new method.
EDIT: and I'm willing to bet if you get one from Verizon it might already be 2.3.4
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That's most likely true. 2.3.4 is being pushed out to the Incredible now, so they would probably run the newest RUU on their Incredible devices.
I feel your pain deadsoulboy, and I've seen your posts lamenting your situation on other threads. Only solace I can offer you is that generally the source code and RUU are made available within 30 days of the OTA, at which point the developers are completely free to tear into them with reckless abandon and hopefully the folks at unrevoked figure things out.
It's also distinctly possible that HTC will unlock the bootloader the way it has with others of its handsets, in which case you'll be back in business.
Until then, my friend, I believe you are rootless.
i have the same problem. its been a couple months.... am i still hosed?
Have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
I used Scotty1223's instructions a few weeks ago and it worked like a charm.
So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
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So I burnt out my Cpu on my original rooted Dinc and got a replacement however after playing around on my replacement Dinc verizon pushed the update to 2.3.4 onto my phone. I would've stopped it but I figured I would just downgrade and root again however the new HBOOT 92 didn't let me downgrade i tried the unrevoked method anyway and i got a custom recovery so i restored MIUI on my current Dinc however i seem to still be unrooted? for example Titanium Backup can't delete system apps. i still have S-on and the new HBOOT 92 however i also have a mac so i am a little stuck and confused on how to regain full root access with s-off again any hep would be greatly appreciated.
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Check this out. http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
Hi all,
Here is my problem, the other day when updates were being pushed out by VZW my Incredible updated, I woke the next morning and found that I had no root and no way to tether. I have tried unrevoked3 and followed all instructions and still no luck on the matter. I even re-downloaded everything and nothing. Can anyone help me with this.
dexcaliber said:
Hi all,
Here is my problem, the other day when updates were being pushed out by VZW my Incredible updated, I woke the next morning and found that I had no root and no way to tether. I have tried unrevoked3 and followed all instructions and still no luck on the matter. I even re-downloaded everything and nothing. Can anyone help me with this.
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I'm presuming the gingerbread update reset your recovery to stock. First of all, unrevoked doesn't work on the gingerbread OTA that you received. However, if you're S-OFF you're still in luck. First check if you are. Go to HBOOT and at the top next to the HBOOT version it will either say S-OFF or S-ON. If you rooted with a recent version of unrevoked you should be S-OFF unless you manually flashed S-ON. Then read through the site below
http://pvillecomp.com
It willl instruct you how to boot into HBOOT and flash an image to get clockworkmod back. Then you should be able to flash a custom recovery again or superuser to get root back. I don't know offhand about the superuser flashing but if you flash wildstang's OTA ROM you will have root again.
Check out this thread if you're updated to GB 2.3.4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
EDIT: Read the link I posted, but follow what Tiny is suggesting, he'll get you squared away!