I have noticed that when I choose to send a photo as an MMS it gets re-sized to within an inch of its life. A typical 900kb photo gets re-sized to 10kb or 15kb. Terrible quality. My old N82 phone used to send the photo at close to 300kb limit so you got a very good quality MMS.
I have had a look around the forums and it seems there are varying explanations but no conclusive judgments on why this is?
1. It is caused by the Network not recognizing the phone. (althought ppl have reported this on T-mobile too)
2. It is android sendnig all MMS as a "slide show" instead of just attaching the image.
Which is correct, or is it something else? Can it be worked around to send good quality 250kb - 300kb pic attachments.
I would also like to know this, I've had it with the last few HTC phones on Android.
I'm on o2, which haven't supported any of the latest phones, so could be the network I presume. I always got told it was the network before when I raised this issue.
one possible explanation from another user on a different forum stated
Basically what happens when you send a MMS is that is goes to your operators MMSCentre and while its there it reads in the User Agent Profile of your phone so it can determine what size of the picture you sent and it will resize it to the recipients phone screen size (as it may be a different size)
Now heres where the problem lies (i think)
If your operator dont have the User Agent profile for your phone loaded into the MMSCentre it will send the picture to the recipients as the default (small size)-->so long story short you have to wait for O2 to update your phone in the database in the MMSC.
I don't think this is right though. My phone resizes/compressed the message before I even hit send, so I don't believe its the network at all. I think its android using this "slide show" crap instead of just resizing the picture to under 300kb and leaving it at 250kb etc. Not compressing it to 10kb.
If this IS an android problem surely all HTC Hero users would have reported it, and all of their MMS (sent or received) would have been under 20kb? Major flaw if thats the case? Anyone know more?
I've just got a hold of a HTC Hero to try the same experiment on.
I go to photo album, choose to share a photo as a message.
The HTC hero resizes to 45kb not 10kb, and it does not insert the photo as an image in a slideshow, it just attaches it as an image. Just like my old Nokia N82 did. No slideshow crap.
I went through all of the settings and cannot see the difference that would cause his to be an attached image and mine to be inserted in this slideshow format. Possibly coming from the network? I'm unsure. Slideshow format is rubbish though. I just want to send the larger image like the Hero does. argh....
Slight thread change but...
Can Anybody who has O2 on simfree let me know the MMS settings I cant seem to send MMS picture messages. Ive seen that link on the O2 website, but I cant seem to get it working. Ive added in an additional APN, and As O2 dont support it yet they cant help me.
I have installed Handcent, but cant send from either handcent or HTC messaging.
Thanks in advance.
Bloke
It's the operator.
Had the exact same problem when I was in the UK and used O2. When I returned to Norway and Telenor (which have Android devices) MMS are sized properly.
The workaround is to use Handcent or chompSMS and change the useragent to The N95 or the iPhone.
Zappza said:
It's the operator.
Had the exact same problem when I was in the UK and used O2. When I returned to Norway and Telenor (which have Android devices) MMS are sized properly.
The workaround is to use Handcent or chompSMS and change the useragent to The N95 or the iPhone.
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Thats great Zappza. Conclusive.
Hopefully all networks that plan to sell the Desire will have support soon. Cheers
Zappza said:
It's the operator. ...The workaround is to use Handcent or chompSMS and change the useragent to The N95 or the iPhone.
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Wow. That's interesting. ... YouTube, of course a Google property, encourages simplified uploading of videos direct to youtube from phone using MMS...
Worked on my Hero -- because of smaller video file sizes. On the Desire, using default highest resolution video, all attempts at uploading any length of video fail immediately "exceeds file size for MMS" or something of that nature...
Have you tried to see if your workaround would also work for VIDEOS -- or is that just pushing beyond the limits -- not to mention the prohibitive costs of MMS messaging unless you have a flat rate plan.
no its not the network,
The max mms size is 300Kb as defined in the sms/mms settings in the default sms handler in android
handcent allows you to change the default mms size setting and you can select 1Mb so that will help you anyway
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Wow. That's interesting. ... YouTube, of course a Google property, encourages simplified uploading of videos direct to youtube from phone using MMS...
Worked on my Hero -- because of smaller video file sizes. On the Desire, using default highest resolution video, all attempts at uploading any length of video fail immediately "exceeds file size for MMS" or something of that nature...
Have you tried to see if your workaround would also work for VIDEOS -- or is that just pushing beyond the limits -- not to mention the prohibitive costs of MMS messaging unless you have a flat rate plan.
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there is an option where you share the video/upload to yt not using MMS. The size and quality remain the same.
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there is an option where you share the video/upload to yt not using MMS. The size and quality remain the same.
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yes, you can share video using mobile internet or wifi. Just make sure your logged into your youtube account on the phone. No MMS required.
TieT said:
handcent allows you to change the default mms size setting and you can select 1Mb so that will help you anyway
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No, I think you missed the point I was making. If the maximum defined limit is 300kb or 3000kb, my pictures still get re-sized to 10kb or 15kb when I choose "share via messaging"
I have the same thing on the HD2 and Desire, both using Vodafone uk.
The HD2 used to work just fine up until a few weeks ago, Vodafone could not answer why it was happening, but I reckon its a network issue, or the Rom upgrade on the HD2 was the culprit.
When my HD2 comes back from HTC tomorrow, ill stick the old 1.43 Rom back on, and see if it solves it...
thanks pastypacker, let us know how you get on, I'll keep an eye on the thread.
mcgon1979 said:
No, I think you missed the point I was making. If the maximum defined limit is 300kb or 3000kb, my pictures still get re-sized to 10kb or 15kb when I choose "share via messaging"
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sorry bro, misunderstood
in that case, yes i think its your provider.
It's all good. hopefully the network will make the appropriate changes when they start selling the phone here shortly.
I have tried everything to get MMS(video) working to my gf iphone4. I have an Evo 4G running Sprint lover rom 2.2 lastest sending a video which is 473KB to AT&T iphone4. I get a error back saying that she has a limit. Not sure what to do next. I reinstalled the rom and wipped everything. The rom has a MMS compressor. If anyone can help me get it to work I will donate. And yes I have search for two days on this forum and others trying to get it to work.
You mean you get a text back saying the video is too large to send? If so, that's an AT&T issue, not really much else you can do about it. Tell her to get an EVO instead.
OKay I think I found the issue. After wipping and and reinstalling the rom you have to select messages attach video and then record the video. You cannot attach a pre recorded video because it will not compress the video. I hope there is a fix for this.
Also when in the messaging app to record video it formats it in QCIF(176x144) resoultion. If you go stright to the camcorder app you do not get the option of QCIF(176x144) the smallest you get is QVGA(320x240)
When I get an MMS and click it, it plays as blank audio file and I can't see the picture unless I tap-hold and save-as. Before the picture would show up in that actual text...
Anyone?
Is this done when anyone sends you a MMS? I know when my brother sends me a MMS on his blackberry I get it like that.
Is there ANY rom that supports 60 second mms recording with mms resolution? Should be able to compose mms message and choose capture video and record 60 seconds and stop then video is ready to press send.
Any?
Sent from my One V using Tapatalk
Anyone played around with this much? Even standard quality ones just a couple of seconds long will only send as a still image via sms. I'm sure this is to prevent someone from sending huge files over sms, but I couldn't even send a 1.2mb one.
GIFs are generally not going to send over MMS regardless of how they were created, 1.2MB is actually the size limit on MMS.