I have noticed that when I choose to send a photo as an MMS it gets re-sized to within an inch of its life. A typical 900kb photo gets re-sized to 10kb or 15kb. Terrible quality. My old N82 phone used to send the photo at close to 300kb limit so you got a very good quality MMS.
I have had a look around the forums and it seems there are varying explanations but no conclusive judgments on why this is?
1. It is caused by the Network not recognizing the phone. (althought ppl have reported this on T-mobile too)
2. It is android sendnig all MMS as a "slide show" instead of just attaching the image.
Which is correct, or is it something else? Can it be worked around to send good quality 250kb - 300kb pic attachments.
I would also like to know this, I've had it with the last few HTC phones on Android.
I'm on o2, which haven't supported any of the latest phones, so could be the network I presume. I always got told it was the network before when I raised this issue.
one possible explanation from another user on a different forum stated
Basically what happens when you send a MMS is that is goes to your operators MMSCentre and while its there it reads in the User Agent Profile of your phone so it can determine what size of the picture you sent and it will resize it to the recipients phone screen size (as it may be a different size)
Now heres where the problem lies (i think)
If your operator dont have the User Agent profile for your phone loaded into the MMSCentre it will send the picture to the recipients as the default (small size)-->so long story short you have to wait for O2 to update your phone in the database in the MMSC.
I don't think this is right though. My phone resizes/compressed the message before I even hit send, so I don't believe its the network at all. I think its android using this "slide show" crap instead of just resizing the picture to under 300kb and leaving it at 250kb etc. Not compressing it to 10kb.
If this IS an android problem surely all HTC Hero users would have reported it, and all of their MMS (sent or received) would have been under 20kb? Major flaw if thats the case? Anyone know more?
I've just got a hold of a HTC Hero to try the same experiment on.
I go to photo album, choose to share a photo as a message.
The HTC hero resizes to 45kb not 10kb, and it does not insert the photo as an image in a slideshow, it just attaches it as an image. Just like my old Nokia N82 did. No slideshow crap.
I went through all of the settings and cannot see the difference that would cause his to be an attached image and mine to be inserted in this slideshow format. Possibly coming from the network? I'm unsure. Slideshow format is rubbish though. I just want to send the larger image like the Hero does. argh....
Slight thread change but...
Can Anybody who has O2 on simfree let me know the MMS settings I cant seem to send MMS picture messages. Ive seen that link on the O2 website, but I cant seem to get it working. Ive added in an additional APN, and As O2 dont support it yet they cant help me.
I have installed Handcent, but cant send from either handcent or HTC messaging.
Thanks in advance.
Bloke
It's the operator.
Had the exact same problem when I was in the UK and used O2. When I returned to Norway and Telenor (which have Android devices) MMS are sized properly.
The workaround is to use Handcent or chompSMS and change the useragent to The N95 or the iPhone.
Zappza said:
It's the operator.
Had the exact same problem when I was in the UK and used O2. When I returned to Norway and Telenor (which have Android devices) MMS are sized properly.
The workaround is to use Handcent or chompSMS and change the useragent to The N95 or the iPhone.
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Thats great Zappza. Conclusive.
Hopefully all networks that plan to sell the Desire will have support soon. Cheers
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It's the operator. ...The workaround is to use Handcent or chompSMS and change the useragent to The N95 or the iPhone.
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Wow. That's interesting. ... YouTube, of course a Google property, encourages simplified uploading of videos direct to youtube from phone using MMS...
Worked on my Hero -- because of smaller video file sizes. On the Desire, using default highest resolution video, all attempts at uploading any length of video fail immediately "exceeds file size for MMS" or something of that nature...
Have you tried to see if your workaround would also work for VIDEOS -- or is that just pushing beyond the limits -- not to mention the prohibitive costs of MMS messaging unless you have a flat rate plan.
no its not the network,
The max mms size is 300Kb as defined in the sms/mms settings in the default sms handler in android
handcent allows you to change the default mms size setting and you can select 1Mb so that will help you anyway
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Wow. That's interesting. ... YouTube, of course a Google property, encourages simplified uploading of videos direct to youtube from phone using MMS...
Worked on my Hero -- because of smaller video file sizes. On the Desire, using default highest resolution video, all attempts at uploading any length of video fail immediately "exceeds file size for MMS" or something of that nature...
Have you tried to see if your workaround would also work for VIDEOS -- or is that just pushing beyond the limits -- not to mention the prohibitive costs of MMS messaging unless you have a flat rate plan.
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there is an option where you share the video/upload to yt not using MMS. The size and quality remain the same.
JaykaySLO said:
there is an option where you share the video/upload to yt not using MMS. The size and quality remain the same.
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yes, you can share video using mobile internet or wifi. Just make sure your logged into your youtube account on the phone. No MMS required.
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handcent allows you to change the default mms size setting and you can select 1Mb so that will help you anyway
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No, I think you missed the point I was making. If the maximum defined limit is 300kb or 3000kb, my pictures still get re-sized to 10kb or 15kb when I choose "share via messaging"
I have the same thing on the HD2 and Desire, both using Vodafone uk.
The HD2 used to work just fine up until a few weeks ago, Vodafone could not answer why it was happening, but I reckon its a network issue, or the Rom upgrade on the HD2 was the culprit.
When my HD2 comes back from HTC tomorrow, ill stick the old 1.43 Rom back on, and see if it solves it...
thanks pastypacker, let us know how you get on, I'll keep an eye on the thread.
mcgon1979 said:
No, I think you missed the point I was making. If the maximum defined limit is 300kb or 3000kb, my pictures still get re-sized to 10kb or 15kb when I choose "share via messaging"
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sorry bro, misunderstood
in that case, yes i think its your provider.
It's all good. hopefully the network will make the appropriate changes when they start selling the phone here shortly.
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got my touch pro 2 a few days ago, everything works fine apart from MMS, when receiving these they come through ok but are very tiny. Cant seem to enlarge them at all, the size of the file is around 6k which is far to small for an mms. anyone else seen this ?
if not will ring o2 in the morning and see if they are doing anything there end. never had this issue on my tytn II but have only just moved to o2 so might be that.
thanks for any help.
nobody else experiencing this ?, I have logged a support call with o2 to see if it is something there end. Very strange.
o2 helpful as ever, they wont assist as they dont support the handset.
There must be a setting somewhere in the registry where the phone is automatically downsizing these pictures as even if i send one to myself from the phone it sends at 224k but then receives at 6k ?
very annoying.
anybody ?
at present for anyone else that is on o2 with this phone and wants to receive full size mms pictures until o2 get there finger out and officially support the phone. I used the following settings from the htc touch, these settings need to be modified in the registry.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Arcsoft\ArcSoft MMS UA\Config\mm1\WspHeader]
Accept application/vnd.wap.mms-message,*/*
Accept-Charset us-ascii, utf-8, iso-10646-usc-2, ISO-8859-1, ISO-8859-2
Accept-Language en
User-Agent HTC_Touch_HD_T8282/arcsoft-mmsua-5.0.0.xx
x-wap-profile http://www.htcmms.com.tw/gen/HTC_Touch_HD_T8282-1.0.xml
this seems to work for me. now getting my grand daughter who has just been born at full resolution. much better than this tiny thumbnail size that I was receiving, she's small enough as it is.
My MMS wont send or receive on o2. Where do I change the settings?
What are they?
My data works fine and everything else!!
Thanks.
Stu.
If you have a custom ROM most will require a secondary CAB install for MMS provisioning. Check the thread of your custom ROM for MMS related information.
Well just did some testing on two devices & made sure these settings work for T-Mobile MMS so I exported the REG & CAB'ed it up for an easy fix. Also, while I was at it I made a 1MB MMS Send Limit CAB. They are attached below.
Just added a new CAB for 1MB limit & edited the fix CAB to add the tiny picture issue we T-Mobile users have been having.
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Well just did some testing on two devices & made sure these settings work for T-Mobile MMS so I exported the REG & CAB'ed it up for an easy fix. Also, while I was at it I made a 5MB MMS Send Limit CAB. They are attached below.
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I dont use mms much at all, but when i have i never noticed any problems. what exactly does this fix and improve upon?
HTC Connection Setup wizard is out of date. It gives the wrong server for MMS & therefore MMS doesn't work. This has been a running issue with T-Mobile & HTC's Connection tool on multiple devices over the yrs. I hardly ever use MMS myself so never bothered with it, but my room mate who does use it has a WM device now that I flashed a custom ROM on. The bad thing is that you never know it doesn't work. It just never sends the message or receives them. You actually had to double check & make sure it sent to realize it was broken. Internet & everything else else works just fine.
attaching 5MB file is not going to do you any good if the network doesn't support it. I did a registry hack on my tilt to attach 1MB file. while it's possible to attach the file to the mms the network will not allow the mms to be sent. at&t's network only allows maximum mms file to be 600kb.
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T-Mobile MMS limit
T-mobile USA has a limit on how large the file can be. The limit is 1024kb. The network will not allow any files larger to be sent through the network
there is also a limit placed on the size received by other networks, while T-Mobile has a 1MB limit, if you are trying to send to someone on another network you will need to adhere to their limits or the message will not be received. I try to keep my MMS messages below 500k just to make sure they are actually received.
Hi,
I have read in a different thread that this fix could also solve our SMS sending issue (with NRG roms at least). Would you confirm that there is reasons why it would fix SMS (you are refering to MMS in this topic). Thanks.
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Hi,
I have read in a different thread that this fix could also solve our SMS sending issue (with NRG roms at least). Would you confirm that there is reasons why it would fix SMS (you are refering to MMS in this topic). Thanks.
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I do not know, I don't use NRG;s ROM. You have orange listed as your service provider so i would say don't use this. This is for T-Mobile's MMS issues with most ROM's. If someone said this does work, than I would ask them, as I have no clue.
This doesn't work.
yes it does... I used it every flash & get MMS's all the time...
Added a new MMS Fix CAB that now has the fix for receiving super tiny pictures.
works
works for me awesome!!! Thank you
which one works to make the size bigger to around 200kb i tried those fixes you listed on a hd2 i am not sure if the phone is supported but i thought it be worth a try.
ateam201 said:
which one works to make the size bigger to around 200kb i tried those fixes you listed on a hd2 i am not sure if the phone is supported but i thought it be worth a try.
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Just removed the old CAB's. One is for the fix the other just sets the max size for sending to 1 MB & is optional. It should work just fine on HD2 as it's only reg edits. You need to soft reset afterwards for the reg changes to take effect. Afterwards you'll (should, might still be a little smaller as I think the reg is for a QVGA device, but looked big for me when I tested sending a pic from my room mate's Crackberry.) receive the pic as what ever size it was sent.
Not working for me
so this will fix the fact that i cant send ot recieve MMS also?
dweezy108 said:
so this will fix the fact that i cant send ot recieve MMS also?
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It includes the reg to make MMS work, meaning you can send out & receive MMS messages. It also adds the reg to fix the tiny picture problem in MMS's. The second CAB is optional & gives a 1 MB limit to MMS via reg edits.
Note: MMS is still limited by your service provider. So, if it's less than 1 MB, than it'll send at that limit.
just tried it and it worked. thanx!!
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
It includes the reg to make MMS work, meaning you can send out & receive MMS messages. It also adds the reg to fix the tiny picture problem in MMS's. The second CAB is optional & gives a 1 MB limit to MMS via reg edits.
Note: MMS is still limited by your service provider. So, if it's less than 1 MB, than it'll send at that limit.
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I think that when folks say it doesn't work, it's because they are using HTC's Messaging client. Corect me if I am wrong, but this is for Arcsoft (Microsoft) MMS, right? I think HTC's client uses Jataayu.....
Do any of you fellow T-Mobile service users notice a problem with HTC Messaging? No matter what registry setting I have changed or what cab I've installed, I can NEVER view an MMS/pic the same way as the original MMS/pic. The file size is exactly the same but lets say I send myself a picture that is suppose to be viewable in full screen on my TP2. Well, when I receive that image, it's never the same size as the original. What gives?? Anyone know how to fix this issue?
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Do any of you fellow T-Mobile service users notice a problem with HTC Messaging? No matter what registry setting I have changed or what cab I've installed, I can NEVER view an MMS/pic the same way as the original MMS/pic. The file size is exactly the same but lets say I send myself a picture that is suppose to be viewable in full screen on my TP2. Well, when I receive that image, it's never the same size as the original. What gives?? Anyone know how to fix this issue?
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I'd really love to tell you if mine do the same....but unfortunately, I never get MMS messages that are sent to me, until several days after the sent date, and the system won't let me download them then. It doesn't matter what model of phone or what carrier the messages come from.
The point? I have serious doubts about T-mo's MMS routing/handling overall, and I suspect our issues may have a common cause
all My MMS messages work great, I gave you the fix for your problem in the last thread you started about the same issue. with HTC messaging it uses Jataayu and so you need to change the profile in that reg line in order to get the pics to arrive correctly sized. Please stop creating new threads about the same issue when the answer has already been provided to you.
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all My MMS messages work great, I gave you the fix for your problem in the last thread you started about the same issue. with HTC messaging it uses Jataayu and so you need to change the profile in that reg line in order to get the pics to arrive correctly sized. Please stop creating new threads about the same issue when the answer has already been provided to you.
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The "fix" doesn't fully work. The files come in at the right size (a 100kb file comes in at 100kb) but if I send myself a picture that can be viewed full screen, it doesn't come in that way. It comes in at a smaller viewable size.
If you can send yourself a picture that's suppose to be viewable in full screen and it comes in at the exact same viewable size, I'd love to know what you did exactly because it's not working on my end and your fix was pretty simple to apply so I know I did it correctly.
Had this issue on windows mobile and now have the same problem on this device. When i get an mms they come through only a 1/5 the size of the screen. On windows there was a reg key that i can change, anyone know how to do it on this device?
Thanks
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Now that the desire has been rooted, anybody know what settings need to be changed in order to correct the tiny mms pictures, o2 still have not got there finger out and sorted this issue out ??
I have found an app on the market place called handcent and isntalled this, looks like the iphone layout. there is an option to spoof user agent but when i do this i cannot send any mms's. Can receive them but still they are not fullsize although bigger than previous. will try another option and choose the iphone 3.0 useragent. Phones on charge at present as battery ran out after only half a days use. I was using it a lot as i was setting it up so cant really say if this is the norm yet.
Still dont think this is as nippy as my HD2 but then I had a custom rom on that so that helped loads from the stock rom. Again early days.
Im getting this issue.
Isthere any work around for it yet? I send/recieve alot of pics and hate that they are tiny.
the only solution i have found is for rooted devices so no good at present.
Ta. Will have to wait then !!!
Ive gone back to messaging + smspopup only losing ability to quick compose using search button.
Ta
It might me because O2 have not yet added the Desire to their approved database yet. Try again when O2 have released the Desire on their network at the end of this month. I'm also on O2 but I hardly ever use MMS.
Good shout. Makes sense. Ta for that.
norm2002 said:
It might me because O2 have not yet added the Desire to their approved database yet. Try again when O2 have released the Desire on their network at the end of this month. I'm also on O2 but I hardly ever use MMS.
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Ah, hang on, so how come the native messaging app shows the message in the correct size ?
For the same message, same picture sent or received, in the native app is large, but when i quit and go into Handcent, its small !!!
Handcent has just had an update and its still showing as tiny.
Anyone else got this issue ??
You cannot do anything to sort this, it is solely down to o2 to pull there finger out. Until they do we are stuck with it.
According to there site they will have the desire at the end of this month.
But i get large photos sent and received with the native MMS app, and have worked out that its because it converts it to a slideshow.
Spose i will wait til O2 get this as a phone and try after.
Ta
anyway to stop this slideshow on desire, can't seem to find anything to turn it off so I can just view the picture normally.
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Now that the desire has been rooted, anybody know what settings need to be changed in order to correct the tiny mms pictures, o2 still have not got there finger out and sorted this issue out ??
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In handcent sms in Maximum MMS Size, change from default to 300KB.
Default is 300k.
I've tried all sides and none work. Need to wait tool o2 release the desire for themselves.
I have this problem with mine and i'm on orange. When the image is converted to be able to be sent, it shrinks it to about 16K, which is really pathetic. Anyone figured this out yet?
danprocter said:
I have this problem with mine and i'm on orange. When the image is converted to be able to be sent, it shrinks it to about 16K, which is really pathetic. Anyone figured this out yet?
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Are you using the native app or Handcent/chomp ??
Rooted mine and now using handcent, all working as it should, i used to get the same on o2. Not anymore though. Full size mms now.
Rooted mine and now using handcent, all working as it should, i used to get the same on o2. Not anymore though. Full size mms now.
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So can you post your settings?
I assume you are still on o2?
I can send large mms via the native app, and cant send anything if selecting one from the gallery, but can if using the camera straight from hand cent.
So can you post your settings?
I assume you are still on o2?
I can send large mms via the native app, and cant send anything if selecting one from the gallery, but can if using the camera straight from hand cent.
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I have the standard setup, so 2 accounts, one called "O2 MOBILE WEB" which only has the apn set to mobile.o2.co.uk nothing in proxy/port/server/mmsc etc. Only username and password set.
The other one is called O2 MMS Postpay, this has apn of wap.o2.co.uk, no proxy / no port, username o2wap / password, server not set, mmsc set to http://mmsc.mms.o2.co.uk:8002, proxy 193.113.200.195, mmsport 8080
The strange thing is that i CANNOT send mms messages with the stock messaging app. I can however receive them and they come in full size. In handcent i can send and receive mms messages fine. Not sure why this is.
I would prefer the stock application to do both but just cant work out why it doesnt send. tried so many different settings now but nothing works
Am I missing something? I can't figure out how to get my G2 to send a regular picture message, It sends and recieves pictures as a slide show for me. Sending a picture from the G2 to a G1, the G1 gets it as a picture message even though it shows up on my phone as a slide show.
Try sending one from yourself. A bunch of the guys I work worth like to forward nsfw pics around all day and if someone who didn't have a smart phone sent it to me it was a slide show, if someone had a smart phone, etc, I got it the right way.
Sent from my Nextel™ using the XDA app
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Try sending one from yourself. A bunch of the guys I work worth like to forward nsfw pics around all day and if someone who didn't have a smart phone sent it to me it was a slide show, if someone had a smart phone, etc, I got it the right way.
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Tried it, sent and recieved as slide show...
I had this problem on my Vibrant as well. I never found a way to solve it so I just dealt with it.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
It's a bug. Tmobile is very aware of it. There are some 3rd party free apps in the marketplace that will fix the issue.
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It's a bug. Tmobile is very aware of it. There are some 3rd party free apps in the marketplace that will fix the issue.
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Name of those apps, please?
chompsms, I think. I don't have android right now but I read up on the topic. Here's a link.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-G2/pictures-in-text-messages/td-p/486978
Yeah. i use handcent. its lightyears better than stock app and has quick reply and quick compose features. ALso no stupid slideshow mode.
thats what i use
Sorry to bring up a dead topic but just wondering if a fix was ever found? I've flashed a new ROM & its having this problem.
I really don't know of any 'fix' for this. Not to mention the fact that the best OS out the can't seem to send a proper mms and not compress it to less than 10kb. No amount of UA spoofing or alternate messaging apps will fix any of this until google addresses the issue. Maybe some one smarter than I can sort through the phones code and find the culprit, then remove it.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
Ever since setting my UA to Nexusone I have had zero problems with large MMS.
They download at full size, I just received a 665k MMS today.
gteye said:
Ever since setting my UA to Nexusone I have had zero problems with large MMS.
They download at full size, I just received a 665k MMS today.
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What do you mean by "UA"?
gteye said:
Ever since setting my UA to Nexusone I have had zero problems with large MMS.
They download at full size, I just received a 665k MMS today.
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Yes, but how about sending? The custom UA doesn't fix that issue, any mms you send will compress to a wicked small file. I've even resized the image to 600Kb and even 300Kb, both were reduced to a measly 6Kb and 8Kb (same with my MT Slide when I used it).
Btw, UA = User Agent.
It's the ID of each model of phone that the network servers use to determine certain features, like mms. When you send an mms it sends messages to the server stating 'message incoming/phone UA' the server then sends back an ok - the message is sent, server sends a receipt.
When a message is sent to you the server sends an invisible text stating 'message waiting/message address/what's your UA ID' the phone then confirms the UA ID. The server then reads the UA and adjusts the message accordingly and says the message is ready, phone then downloads it and sends receipt.
Very long (but quick) process. So yes, changing the UA will help with receiving an mms but the phone, at least in Androids case, is the reason why we can't send a large mms. Since all messaging apps like handcent still rely on the core process used by Android to send messages - there's no way to bypass it completely. You can trick it into sending a 300Kb picture as long as the original size isn't much larger but good luck on 600Kb - 1MB or more, they get downsized to nothing.