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Sounds good to me. So far, all price leaks regarding the Atrix have been really interesting (150$ for the laptop, 150$ for the phone with 2 yr contract in US, probably similar with 3yr in Canada, and now these reasonably priced docks).
i wonder if you HAVE to use the docking station with a screen, or does that just give you the remote control capability?
Surely I will just be able to plug in via HDMI and play movies, music, pictures etc? Seems odd that you need a special box for it. Possibly more comfortable, thats all.
Maybe someone will invent a wifi based remote control...?
Its logical, that if you have miniHDMI port, you dont need anything else (also check this thread someone said about video output).
I think that the Standart Dock is just for charging and easier connecting Atrix to TV (normal HDMI port) and with HD Dock you can also connect some USB devices like mouse or keyboard.
And most important you get nice stand for your Motorola
If there's only a $10 difference I may just get two multimedia docks. One to keep connected to my TV and the other next to my bed.
that hd dock looks great, I really want one for my Atrix ( when I will buy it ). And that other dock, it doesn't have remote control, right?
latest word is the dock is going to cost upwards of $500.
AT&T has announced pricing for the Android smartphone, which will run $199.99 when you sign up for a 2-year contract, but it will cost $499.99 to purchase the docking station that effectively turns the phone into a laptop computer. That means the docking station will be about twice as expensive as we’d been hearing… and it will cost even more if you don’t buy the Webtop at the same time as the phone. Oh yeah, you’ll also have to pay for a tethering add-on in addition to your smartphone data plan.
The dock will run $499.99 if purchased separately.
http://liliputing.com/2011/02/att-t...ontract-500-with-laptop-dock.html#dsq-content
That's the laptop dock. The HD Multimedia Dock will be "only" $189 with a keyboard, mouse, and remote.
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That's the laptop dock. The HD Multimedia Dock will be "only" $189 with a keyboard, mouse, and remote.
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Love the "only"... That has to be a crazy keyboard and mouse...
HD dock is $130 or so. Screw that. Just run the HDMI cable straight to the TV from the phone, and use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse, no need for the USB port.
I ordered the multimedia dock bundle because I get 40% off accessories through the at&t premier website. $117 isn't so bad for everything you get. The laptop dock was not fiscountable but the price of that was not worth discount or none IMO. If I don't like the multimedia dock I have 14 days to return it... so here's hoping I like it.
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Its logical, that if you have miniHDMI port, you dont need anything else (also check this thread someone said about video output).
I think that the Standart Dock is just for charging and easier connecting Atrix to TV (normal HDMI port) and with HD Dock you can also connect some USB devices like mouse or keyboard.
And most important you get nice stand for your Motorola
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According to this video on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8sN3DnKaKM if you only plug in the HDMI cable there is no Webtop button. The guy says when you plug in just an HDMI cable there are two modes "Entertainment mode, and the do nothing mode"
So I guess they figured out a way for the phone to identify when it is using one of the docks.
I would like a standard dock that just holds the phone and maybe allows for charging; im definitely thinkinng of the standard dock though.
Using this in class to take notes is something taht is really excitint; im using an ipad right now and i love it, but sometimes I dont want to throw at ithe bag and set it up just to take a few notes.
From what I can tell, the placement of the connectors is about right (width), but I think one of the connectors is upside down if you compare the EVO USB/HDMI and the Atrix USB/HDMI, so I am not sure that it would fit.
Next step in my brainstorm would be to use extension cables to compensate for the twisted connector, and rig up a jig/adapter plate to securely hold the EVO onto the laptop dock.
Once the hardware could be connected, we have to deal with software, firmware, kernels and the like. I've seen that HDMI mirroring is mostly done, and I imagine that the Motorola webtop software will be hacked/ported or cloned at some point. Although, even just running the EVO on the main screen would be sweet enough for me (for now).
I would declare it cooler than sliced bread if I could use my EVO with the Atrix laptop dock, or had something similar for my EVO. (if I could just get HDMI in, I'd use an old laptop as a shell).
Thoughts and ideas?
i seriously doubt it will work. although the microusb and hdmi might be the same, there is a lot on the software side that has to be done in order for the evo to work. its probably proprietary code, which wouldnt be a huge deal, but there wont be enough interest due to the fact the dock is 200 dollars. so it may be possible, but i wouldnt have my hopes up
I'm pretty stingy in general, although more liberal when it comes to technology and gadgets, and I don't feel that $200 would be wasted or expensive (more than that would quickly get too expensive though) on something like that. Maybe just because I have dreamed of doing something similar ever since I got my Sony u7 50p a few years back, but I still think it would be awesome!
USB host and full HDMI out are mostly driver module issues and would be covered by GPL. As far as the UI,a launcher switch triggered by "Dock Mode" is already in place, it would just need an options pop-up to select which mode you wanted to use like the USB does when you connect to a PC. Something like And-Win home screen would work as a desktop UI to start. The only issue I see would be if there's a validation check from the lapdock or media dock.
Last I looked (a while ago) I could not find any mention of people using/turning on USB host support on an EVO. Do you know anything about that? I'm not sure what the GPL is though...
You woulld be much better off (and cheaper) to buy a 13inch monitor, connect hdmi from evo to monitor, and use the FullHDMI app, with a bluetooth keyboard of course.
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From what I can tell, the placement of the connectors is about right (width), but I think one of the connectors is upside down if you compare the EVO USB/HDMI and the Atrix USB/HDMI, so I am not sure that it would fit.
Next step in my brainstorm would be to use extension cables to compensate for the twisted connector, and rig up a jig/adapter plate to securely hold the EVO onto the laptop dock.
Once the hardware could be connected, we have to deal with software, firmware, kernels and the like. I've seen that HDMI mirroring is mostly done, and I imagine that the Motorola webtop software will be hacked/ported or cloned at some point. Although, even just running the EVO on the main screen would be sweet enough for me (for now).
I would declare it cooler than sliced bread if I could use my EVO with the Atrix laptop dock, or had something similar for my EVO. (if I could just get HDMI in, I'd use an old laptop as a shell).
Thoughts and ideas?
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The connectors aren't even CLOSE.
The motorola webtop stuff is actually a full linux environment, and when it boots up it uses a whole core of the tegra.
Keep in mind the atrix is still "running" android on the other core.
Even if this WAS possible, it would be so entirely laggy it would not be worth it at all. (And having tried the dock for the atrix, it's a complete waste of money in my honest opinion. _ANY_ netbook priced at ~$250 USD outperforms it.)
Hate to break it to you, but no, you'll never see it "ported."
As far as I can see, the best you're going to get is hdmi out (to a regular screen) and maybe once someone gets around to enabling the proper USB option host based devices. (keyboard, etc. But enjoy hacking your cables up to make a proper adaptor)
I don't suppose you have a lead on anyone (or thread) working on USB host for the EVO do you?
While you may be able to mirror on the laptops screen and have it charge. The only thing thats seemingly impossible is to make use of the touchpad through a hardwired connection. You're better off to trying to jerry rig a bluetooth keyboard w/ integrated track pad, a tiny HDMI enabled screen, and a battery source.
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I don't suppose you have a lead on anyone (or thread) working on USB host for the EVO do you?
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The closest thing I've found was a "needs testing" driver for the HD2 port of the Evo ROM. There doesn't seem to be much interest from the devs.
Sounds like a plan. You should pick one up asap.
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i seriously doubt it will work. although the microusb and hdmi might be the same, there is a lot on the software side that has to be done in order for the evo to work. its probably proprietary code, which wouldnt be a huge deal, but there wont be enough interest due to the fact the dock is 200 dollars. so it may be possible, but i wouldnt have my hopes up
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I personally have the lapdock AND the OG EVO works with it (using AnthraX) although I had to twist the HDMI cable it does so on screen...
It works in Landscape as well as Portrait but the USB's do NOT work with it...
any idea on how to get it working?
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I personally have the lapdock AND the OG EVO works with it (using AnthraX) although I had to twist the HDMI cable it does so on screen...
It works in Landscape as well as Portrait but the USB's do NOT work with it...
any idea on how to get it working?
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Reviving an ancient request. Anyone has this working? I tried like above and got the hdmi and charging working, but not usbs...
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Reviving an ancient request. Anyone has this working? I tried like above and got the hdmi and charging working, but not usbs...
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I'm sorry buddy I have switched company's but I believe it is just a matter of drivers needed to be installed
Hey guys,
First post on here, but loving my new Sammy GSII..(upgraded from an HTC Desire)
I have a question, or more a wish really, anybody know if the GSII is gonna get a webtop keyboard / Screen / Dock like the Motorola Atrix?
Ok I know the answer would be no, but it seems like a brilliant concept and the Sammy is way more powerful than the Atrix....
Would be nice to think that Sammy feel it has this potential too....
I don't think there's any option for this so far, but with USB host support (USB on the go) plus HDMI out, this should all be possible through the MHL usb/hdmi combined port.
I hope some generic docks like the atrix one become available for any android handset with USB and HDMI, plus possibly tablet docks which also integrate a capacitive touch panel.
Edit: possible issue: I'm not sure if you can use the Micro USB port for USB on the go AND MHL (HDMI) at the same time. Does anyone know if this will be possible?
if they released a touch screen dock, what would be the point of the galaxy tab 10.1 ?
on the plus side, the galaxy S2 already has dock sensing as it knows to switch to a basic big button screen when it is placed in a car dock ! given the right software it could switch to a honeycomb type layout when in the touch screen dock
The webtop mode is actually linux (albeit Limited) itself which launches once u place the atrix in the dock or use the webtop hack. it allows u to have an open window of your phone on your screen. it doesn't just mirror what is already there.
bit more info on how it looks here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000316
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if they released a touch screen dock, what would be the point of the galaxy tab 10.1 ?
...given the right software it could switch to a honeycomb type layout when in the touch screen dock
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I was thinking of a third party dock rather than Samsung, but even if Samsung did make a dock, there would still be people who want a tablet that doesn't require a phone to be inserted for it to work.
That would be great if it could auto-sense the dock & load a honeycomb type layout, as I'm sure it's possible to load a tablet launcher & normal launcher into memory, then switch when the phone is inserted to the dock or removed.
The Atrix does more than just mirror the phone, and if it would be possible to do this with the S2, great, but even if it were just mirroring a custom tablet-optimised launcher, then that could work well and be easier.
Not sure if it would be possible to 'mirror' to a higher res display, but increase the resolution to match the bigger screen?
Is there anyway you can get the webtop on the Nexus?
I'm torn between the RAZR and Nexus for my upgrade
If nexus can get Webtop then that's an easy win
Wouldn't count on it.
It won't work since the Nexus does not have a mini hdmi port.
It would probably be much easier to build something like webtop from the ground up than port it. In either highly unlikely youll see either.
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HDMI on Nexus
Just a thought all, the Samsung Infuse comes with a Mini USB adapter/connector that outputs to HDMI. Whether or not this could aid in Webtop development for the Nexus I'm not sure. Just a thought! but also agree this may be a lost cause!
Webtop
Hello,
A little birdy told me wait..wait...wait
Also, the Galaxy Nexus has an MHL port, which is a combo of USB-on-the-go, HDMI, and USB charging. You can get a USB/HDMI -> MHL cord for all MHL phones.
is there someone who tried the hdmi functionality?
In any case webtop like will not be possible since you can connect both hdmi and mouse on the same port
You can create something close. Simply get the MHL cable everyone is talking about, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, connect it all to the nexus and you have one giant tablet-like interface =) Not really too portable since you can't carry around an LCD screen though, lol.
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You can create something close. Simply get the MHL cable everyone is talking about, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, connect it all to the nexus and you have one giant tablet-like interface =) Not really too portable since you can't carry around an LCD screen though, lol.
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not really the same, webtop is way better for this.
Tablet + phone?
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Tablet + phone?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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More like netbook+phone. See Atrix, Bionic, etc. Although it's more acceptable than optimal, Moto has a large head start on this type of solution.
For tablet+phone, Asus may have an interesting entry in 1H2012.
I came across Airdroid if your connected to a Network. This is Pretty awsome. I just like texting with a keyboard. It runs in your desktop Browser
In the market (can't Link as new user)
KevParlee said:
Is there anyway you can get the webtop on the Nexus?
I'm torn between the RAZR and Nexus for my upgrade
If nexus can get Webtop then that's an easy win
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To be honest, the only thing I like about the Razr is SmartApps, the Design of the phone, and moto always does a good job of media sharing ala DLNA.
The software and screen resolution alone make the galaxy nexus better. Updates straight from google and the newest O.S. make it better. I'm sick and tired of manufacturers trying to reskin android and delaying updates to "make sure it's compatible with their phones".
With that said, the closest thing you can do, right now, would be to get the MHL adapter. Or use something like airdroid.
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I came across Airdroid if your connected to a Network. This is Pretty awsome. I just like texting with a keyboard. It runs in your desktop Browser
In the market (can't Link as new user)
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Airdroid isn't related with webtop.
Webtop is good when you haven't got a computer, in this case you can use a monitor and your phone as a computer.
With AirDroid you need a computer to access the phone, pretty useless imho.
Some interesting reads:
This talks about how the MHL technology can be used to hook the Nexus up to an HDMI TV. The main problem is not being able to charge the phone while using it, unless you have a newer MHL supporting phone.
http://www.talkandroid.com/89887-galaxy-nexus-desktop-better-than-motorola-webtop/#.T24bZzEV0QQ
Which made me think, someone out there could very easily create a "go between" that would hook up to the USB of the phone, a charger, and the HDMI of the TV... and I was right!
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...F380/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1332616212&sr=8-8
I'm going to be playing with this stuff a bit more after that adapter comes in the mail...
The Nexus can output to HDMI. All you need is a program to alter output vs a straight mirror.
What most people do now, is lower their DPI to 190 and use a bluetooth mouse/keyboard.
If someone were to build a program to alter the output, like a full screen launcher with a faux status bar, etc... you could also use the touchscreen as a mousepad. But honestly a Bluetooth Keyboard/Mouse is best so you can put the phone near the TV/Monitor and you can be across the room.
I did this with my G2x (which had a dedicated HDMI port) and not only used a keyboard/mouse but also my PS3 gamepad for games.
So due to recent events, I don't have a computer. And the odds of me getting one soon are very slim. So to help this problem, I want to buy a multimedia dock for my Atrix 4g. My plan is to get the dock, place it in front of my tv, plug my phone in, plug in a wireless keyboard and mouse to the back, and attach an HDMI chord to the back of it, so my tv works as my display. Before I buy the dock, can I get some opinions on this idea? think it will work well?
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So due to recent events, I don't have a computer. And the odds of me getting one soon are very slim. So to help this problem, I want to buy a multimedia dock for my Atrix 4g. My plan is to get the dock, place it in front of my tv, plug my phone in, plug in a wireless keyboard and mouse to the back, and attach an HDMI chord to the back of it, so my tv works as my display. Before I buy the dock, can I get some opinions on this idea? think it will work well?
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It works awesome, I loved mine. But then my 1st gen atrix touchscreen started to act up and I did the insurance on it and they sent me an atrix 2 because atrix 1 is not made anymore, now I have atrix 1 lapdock and multimedia dock that I can't use since moto cleverly changes the hdmi and usb Ports so the two devices accessories would not be interchangeable.
Make an offer on the accessories and I might sell them to you!
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Glad to know its a working set up. Things never really seem to work the way I expect them to when it comes to things like this. But I only need a multimedia dock. I found one on amazon for $6.49 marked as new. Thanks for the offer though
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/xda-makes-swappa-its-official-marketplace/
No selling here.
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