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Thought About the Laptop Dock

I was thinking about this yesterday and I don't see why this wouldn't be possible.
According to Motorola all the Laptop Dock is, is a screen keyboard and mouse. In the interest of saving money, why not just take an old netbook, take out the internals and convert it? I'm not exactly skilled with electronics but I don't see why this wouldn't be possible, you would need to either keep the DC board (if it is separate) or remove it from the motherboard itself. Then it would just be a matter of converting the LCD to HDMI Input and linking the USB's to the Atrix. At which point you just plug your phone via 2 cables and voila, it would work. Granted you would clearly need to change the connectors for the Keyboard and trackpad, but strip down an HDMI Multimedia dock and I could easily see this being done and saving money. (easily being subjective)

That might be challenging. Adding an HDMI input to a screen that wasn't designed with it is very difficult and potentially expensive. Most netbooks are using analog inputs and HDMI is digital.
The main way to go from analog to digital is a video capture device that encodes the analog signal. Those tend to have a fair bit of latency and are neither small nor cheap.
If you started with a display that supported HDMI input you could build a home brew laptop from that. Power might be an issue at that point though.
From what I have seen the Webtop is merely a feature of pluggin in the HDMI cable and selecting the appliction. The HDMI dock is not going to add much value other than be a convient and nice form factor.
I have considered doing somthing like you are suggesting but I am struggling with the HDMI issue. Currently the only option seems to be taking a display that supports HDMI and converting it into a homebrew laptop. At this time I can't find a digital display that is smaller that 20". An 11-15 inch screen that supports HDMI doesn't seem to exist.

I have thought of the same thing. The sticking point in my mind is the HDMI connection to the screen. The keyboard and mouse are likely just regular usb devices.
The next problem is that my Frankenstein device may cost $100+ to create and will likely look like crap.
The next problem is that the webtop appears to be locked down unless you have a tethering plan.
My conclusion from all of this is that it is cheaper and cleaner to buy a netbook and either add tethering only when necessary or root the device and add barnacle wifi.

If I'm not mistaken though, a netbook with an 11.6 inch display probably isn't only analog. I have a Toshiba T215-S1150 as well as an Asus EeePC that I'm looking into doing such with.
Granted off the top of my head a Pixel Qi display may accomplish such but I'm not sure if that is a Digital Input display.
I could be wrong though but I thought that in the end it's an LCD panel, the inputs are sodered on as to how you want to allow a Video Input.

You say the laptop dock is locked down without a tethering plan, one thing I did notice is you can buy the HDMI dock and it doesn't require it. You can use it with webtop also, I don't see how AT&T can determine if you are using Webtop on a Laptop or on a Desktop. Especially since from what I can tell, plugging in an HDMI cable will bring up the option for webtop also.
I don't see how the Frankenstein device is going to look bad especially since you will be removing most of the internals, you just remove a VGA port or plug an HDMI cable into the HDMI out. Then you use the USB as it was intended to connect the device to the rest of the internals. I know I'm not an electrical engineer or anything, but I know enough of the basics to see how this could work.
krkeegan said:
I have thought of the same thing. The sticking point in my mind is the HDMI connection to the screen. The keyboard and mouse are likely just regular usb devices.
The next problem is that my Frankenstein device may cost $100+ to create and will likely look like crap.
The next problem is that the webtop appears to be locked down unless you have a tethering plan.
My conclusion from all of this is that it is cheaper and cleaner to buy a netbook and either add tethering only when necessary or root the device and add barnacle wifi.
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In regards to the tethering plan:
As I understand it the only requirement to have the tethering plan is to get the subsidy on the Laptop dock.
If you purchase the laptop dock outside a subsidized bundle then there is no need for a tethering plan.
As naturefreak85 said. The dock will allow webtop to launch as will a basic HDMI cable.
There is a video on you tube of a guy doing a demo where he plugs in an HDMI cable and webtop gives an option to launch.
AT&T is merely foisting the tethering plan on people who get the laptop dock on the $500 bundle. If you want to drop $500 on teh dock seperatly there is no requirement.
Mod's and Homebrew can look good. Thats up to the artist. For me its not about circumventing the $500 dock. Its about building somthing cool.
In regards to the HDMI/netbook thing... I did a little more thinking on how that works.
The motherboard has an LCD controller on it which sits between the video adapter on the MB and the LCD.
It goes:
Motherboard->Video Adapter (on silicon)->LCD controller->ribbon cable->LCD
There is also a LCD backlight and inverter involved.
If you just try to plug into the ribbon cable you loose the controller (and backlight inverter)
The contorller is the missing link and they are difficult to purchase on their own in any cost effective manner.
That is where canabalizing a monitor would workas it has a controller with it. The netbook/laptop has thecontroller embeded or loosely couple with the MB.
The hunt goes on.

I'll have to do some research on the schematics of my 1000HA and see the connection the display has to the motherboard. I figure it could be done in terms of converting the display to HDMI, just a matter of figuring out the right pinout and still supplying the right amount of power.
I would love to bring this to fruition because I've never done too much modding, but always been interested in such. I envision the ability to lift up the keyboard and plug the phone in, then lay the keyboard right back down. To the average viewer, it's a laptop but you are keeping your phone nicely protected/connected in it especially nice on an airplane. Much harder to leave a laptop behind vs a phone.

emoose said:
As I understand it the only requirement to have the tethering plan is to get the subsidy on the Laptop dock.
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We will likely found out the answer to this on Monday, but the ATT page seems to say that tethering is required for use of firefox in the webtop mode.
The Atrix page on ATT's website states:
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Full Firefox® browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires DataPro 4GB Personal plan.
** Although, on second thought, that may be an "ATT Requirement" but it doesn't necessarily mean that the browser won't work.

Right as I read that it means, in order to use Webtop on 3G you need the tethering plan, but at the same time, I'm not sure how they can differentiate between desktop firefox if you change the ID tag of it. Plus they don't restrict it if used on WiFi.
krkeegan said:
We will likely found out the answer to this on Monday, but the ATT page seems to say that tethering is required for use of firefox in the webtop mode.
The Atrix page on ATT's website states:
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Full Firefox® browser use with AT&T Mobile Broadband requires DataPro 4GB Personal plan.
** Although, on second thought, that may be an "ATT Requirement" but it doesn't necessarily mean that the browser won't work.
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naturefreak85 said:
I'll have to do some research on the schematics of my 1000HA and see the connection the display has to the motherboard. I figure it could be done in terms of converting the display to HDMI, just a matter of figuring out the right pinout and still supplying the right amount of power.
I would love to bring this to fruition because I've never done too much modding, but always been interested in such. I envision the ability to lift up the keyboard and plug the phone in, then lay the keyboard right back down. To the average viewer, it's a laptop but you are keeping your phone nicely protected/connected in it especially nice on an airplane. Much harder to leave a laptop behind vs a phone.
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The issue is laptop displays typically use LVDS, which is very incompatible with DVI/HDMI signals. You basically need a DVI>LVDS board, which will run into the hundreds of dollars to buy like that.
Unless your laptop uses DisplayPort for it's display connection (unlikely on a netbook,) in which case it would basically be a matter of including a 'cheap' DVI>Displayport converter then pin-matching it to the screen.
I'm actively working on a way to achieve it, too, though (with my Asus Eee 1215T.)

Sjael said:
The issue is laptop displays typically use LVDS, which is very incompatible with DVI/HDMI signals. You basically need a DVI>LVDS board, which will run into the hundreds of dollars to buy like that.
Unless your laptop uses DisplayPort for it's display connection (unlikely on a netbook,) in which case it would basically be a matter of including a 'cheap' DVI>Displayport converter then pin-matching it to the screen.
I'm actively working on a way to achieve it, too, though (with my Asus Eee 1215T.)
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Doing a little bit more research and we have a possible solution, it may require splicing out the HDMI cable to get audio off the connector but this could work.....and it's $29
http://www.google.com/products/cata...og_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCAQ8wIwAA#

naturefreak85 said:
Doing a little bit more research and we have a possible solution, it may require splicing out the HDMI cable to get audio off the connector but this could work.....and it's $29
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This is a board designed for a specific miniITX motherboard - it takes whatever the mobo puts out and turns it into DVI and LVDS. If you could figure out what signals you need to provide to that board, then make those out of an HDMI signal, you might have a way in. Not sure just what functions that board actually provides, and it would be a rather extensive project to find out. I'm guessing that since it has a fair bit of circuitry behind the DVI port, it's not a natively DVI/HDMI-compatible signal.
That means a bit of reverse-engineering though, which I'm not *too* keen on doing. My current line of thought involves using some form of portable media player with a decent screen, since they typically accept some form of video input, haxxed into a case with a USB keyboard and (maybe) touchpad. The hard part is finding a usable screen that is actually better than the one on the Atrix.
That, or find a broken (not the screen! ) modern, high-end laptop that uses Displayport for it's display..

The biggest failure of WP7 (I'm a fan, not a bash thread)

I love WP7, my Focus, and life. Why not?
The one thing I just do not understand is the decision or lack of decision to utilize a dock port system. It's is maddening to have to plug in mUSB instead of clicking in and moving along.
From a Dev. standpoint, is this because they have to allow so many different manufacturers to make devices? Why not make it part of their 'spec.'
No alarm clocks, no cool docks for my stereo, no cool docks for my car, no cool dock for the back of headrests in my car, wth.
It's not a game stopper for me but it really makes me think that being a iClone is just easier.
Oh well I guess...
Thanks for listening XDA forum bot!

Thresher said:
I love WP7, my Focus, and life. Why not?
No alarm clocks, no cool docks for my stereo, no cool docks for my car, no cool dock for the back of headrests in my car, wth.
Thanks for listening XDA forum bot!
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I hear you. I love the dock for my ZuneHD which allows me to use it as anything you list. I was a little surprised to see that my WP7 didn't have a dock port at all.
maybe the next version

I never handled a Zune so I had no idea it had a dock, but now I am even more shocked. I mean does anyone at MS ever walk into Costco and see all the accessories flying off the shevles for iphone...haha, so lame. I can only laugh.
I will give a big middle finger to Samsung for it's top mUSB design too, way to go Samsung!
I just noticed a few new phones with the mUSB on the side...real nice.
lol It's so lame that it's funny!

to be honest, miniusb cables are everywhere. Everybody owns one, and so many devices on the market use them. I charge my DS, my phone, and my bluetooth all with the same adapter... I would have been pissed had I been required to buy a special cable for work, my car, and my home. I have chargers in like 7 different locations now, and when I don't, the person next to me has a miniusb.

Docks can work fine with mini USB. However, as the OP stated, the position of the port is not fixed and hence there can be no standardized dock. nevertheless, if OS supports it, OEMs will jump in and release docks. just like some docks are available for android.
As of present, the OS doesnot offer any special behavior if dock is connected. Nevertheless, I hope mango brings in API's to allow for softwares to be triggered on USB connections, just like on android. Alarm clocks, car dock apps will follow.

But the android docks aren't universal, which is what I think he's referring to... Some connect at the bottom, some at the top, others on the side... I see this coming eventually though to WP7... But as far as a standardized Apple style dock, it would be a pain in the ass and I wouldn't want it to be honest.

FiyaFleye said:
But the android docks aren't universal, which is what I think he's referring to... Some connect at the bottom, some at the top, others on the side... I see this coming eventually though to WP7... But as far as a standardized Apple style dock, it would be a pain in the ass and I wouldn't want it to be honest.
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Good points Fiya. Thankfully for you, it goes how you desire.
Just curious, there aren't any ipod accessories that you would like to just click into?
Docking into my car requires two hands and two cables, very lame and much slower than my other car and wife's iphone, one click, one hand and it starts playing. Plug into microUSB with the cable and the phone simply charges, you still need to tap the music player, etc.
Alarm clocks, stereo docks and car docks are easily what I want most as well as those boomboxes with docks, so nice...not to mention how many parties you go to with ipod docks all around...
I will tell you though, it's microUSB and not mini, making it a different cable than BB, HTC and others. The cables can be bought in bulk, very cheaply as can the ipod USB cables, either way a change was required and new cables needed to be purchased.
There is no way they could have forced the manufacturers to agree on a port and the manufacturers would have issues fitting the port into their designs so maybe you are right...someday...

Thresher said:
I never handled a Zune so I had no idea it had a dock, but now I am even more shocked. I mean does anyone at MS ever walk into Costco and see all the accessories flying off the shevles for iphone...haha, so lame. I can only laugh.
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I have a ZuneHD. Let me tell you that the reason no manufacturer is interested in a docking system is that NO retailers want to stock any dock other than iPhon/iPod docks. When was the last time you see a Zune dock being sold in Costco? Never. And Zune had this docking system for as long as there is Zune. The eco-system is just not there for anything non-iPod.

Then you lose the universal aspect of the entire world using mini USB, but a phone specific dock would be nice.. I just wouldn't want something other than a mini USB
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miniUSB ports are dead. All the new phones and devices use microUSB ports. EU already mandated all future cell phones must use microUSB port as charge port.

good point. micro USB port should be at the bottom as part of the chassis requirement. Maybe they will require that in the future.

Wow, this whole time I was typing mini, I definitely meant micro -_-

How about something like this...if it was possable..
http://cgi.ebay.com/White-Mini-USB-Adapter-iPod-HTC-7-Trophy-/120658457225
An adapter that will convert a miniUSB to iPod/iPhone... I'm assuming it would work with iPhone docks, etc to play back music, just need to create something to hold the adapter/phone and you just opened the door to 2 million different docs and what ever that will work with the iPhone...
If it will work it would be cool...
discussed here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4683282&postcount=3
Edit: There is a lot of info out there about this.....google "HTC to iPod adapter"
I might do this when Vzw gets a WP7 model....(only looking at a HTC model tho)
DatDereX1 said:
good point. micro USB port should be at the bottom as part of the chassis requirement. Maybe they will require that in the future.
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Yea, like 1 inch form the left or right side...so every device will work based on putting it in and adjusting a bracket...

Webtop for Nexus

Is there anyway you can get the webtop on the Nexus?
I'm torn between the RAZR and Nexus for my upgrade
If nexus can get Webtop then that's an easy win

Wouldn't count on it.

It won't work since the Nexus does not have a mini hdmi port.

It would probably be much easier to build something like webtop from the ground up than port it. In either highly unlikely youll see either.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.

HDMI on Nexus
Just a thought all, the Samsung Infuse comes with a Mini USB adapter/connector that outputs to HDMI. Whether or not this could aid in Webtop development for the Nexus I'm not sure. Just a thought! but also agree this may be a lost cause!

Webtop
Hello,
A little birdy told me wait..wait...wait
Also, the Galaxy Nexus has an MHL port, which is a combo of USB-on-the-go, HDMI, and USB charging. You can get a USB/HDMI -> MHL cord for all MHL phones.

is there someone who tried the hdmi functionality?
In any case webtop like will not be possible since you can connect both hdmi and mouse on the same port

You can create something close. Simply get the MHL cable everyone is talking about, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, connect it all to the nexus and you have one giant tablet-like interface =) Not really too portable since you can't carry around an LCD screen though, lol.

DarthPiggie said:
You can create something close. Simply get the MHL cable everyone is talking about, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, connect it all to the nexus and you have one giant tablet-like interface =) Not really too portable since you can't carry around an LCD screen though, lol.
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not really the same, webtop is way better for this.

Tablet + phone?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

player911 said:
Tablet + phone?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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More like netbook+phone. See Atrix, Bionic, etc. Although it's more acceptable than optimal, Moto has a large head start on this type of solution.
For tablet+phone, Asus may have an interesting entry in 1H2012.

I came across Airdroid if your connected to a Network. This is Pretty awsome. I just like texting with a keyboard. It runs in your desktop Browser
In the market (can't Link as new user)

KevParlee said:
Is there anyway you can get the webtop on the Nexus?
I'm torn between the RAZR and Nexus for my upgrade
If nexus can get Webtop then that's an easy win
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To be honest, the only thing I like about the Razr is SmartApps, the Design of the phone, and moto always does a good job of media sharing ala DLNA.
The software and screen resolution alone make the galaxy nexus better. Updates straight from google and the newest O.S. make it better. I'm sick and tired of manufacturers trying to reskin android and delaying updates to "make sure it's compatible with their phones".
With that said, the closest thing you can do, right now, would be to get the MHL adapter. Or use something like airdroid.

KevParlee said:
I came across Airdroid if your connected to a Network. This is Pretty awsome. I just like texting with a keyboard. It runs in your desktop Browser
In the market (can't Link as new user)
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Airdroid isn't related with webtop.
Webtop is good when you haven't got a computer, in this case you can use a monitor and your phone as a computer.
With AirDroid you need a computer to access the phone, pretty useless imho.

Some interesting reads:
This talks about how the MHL technology can be used to hook the Nexus up to an HDMI TV. The main problem is not being able to charge the phone while using it, unless you have a newer MHL supporting phone.
http://www.talkandroid.com/89887-galaxy-nexus-desktop-better-than-motorola-webtop/#.T24bZzEV0QQ
Which made me think, someone out there could very easily create a "go between" that would hook up to the USB of the phone, a charger, and the HDMI of the TV... and I was right!
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...F380/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1332616212&sr=8-8
I'm going to be playing with this stuff a bit more after that adapter comes in the mail...

The Nexus can output to HDMI. All you need is a program to alter output vs a straight mirror.
What most people do now, is lower their DPI to 190 and use a bluetooth mouse/keyboard.
If someone were to build a program to alter the output, like a full screen launcher with a faux status bar, etc... you could also use the touchscreen as a mousepad. But honestly a Bluetooth Keyboard/Mouse is best so you can put the phone near the TV/Monitor and you can be across the room.
I did this with my G2x (which had a dedicated HDMI port) and not only used a keyboard/mouse but also my PS3 gamepad for games.

OTG USB Silicone Keyboard

Does anyone know of a foldable/rollable USB keyboard (presumably silicone) that would have USB 2.0 and work with Hash's 3.0 kernel/OTG?
I like this for the price, but am a noob
http://www.amazon.com/Foldable-Port...9C9Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336092102&sr=8-2

If that works I want one. I can't type on the kindle touch screen for anything.

bennettg said:
Does anyone know of a foldable/rollable USB keyboard (presumably silicone) that would have USB 2.0 and work with Hash's 3.0 kernel/OTG?
I like this for the price, but am a noob
http://www.amazon.com/Foldable-Port...9C9Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1336092102&sr=8-2
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That should work fine. My wireless USB 2.0 one works great, so I see no reason why that wouldn't work.

Does anyone have a roll up silicone keyboard for any device at
All? I am concerned about typing accuracy.
Thanks in advance

I bought a roll up rubber keyboard a couple years back, i hated it and gave it away a day or two after i purchased the keyboard. Luckily i paid only 6 dollars for it.
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Roll-up keyboard works.
bennettg said:
Does anyone have a roll up silicone keyboard for any device at
All? I am concerned about typing accuracy.
Thanks in advance
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Roll-up keyboard working fine here through powered USB hub. Just as accurate as can be expected with these crappy things, but it works like it should.
Edit: Thanks for mentioning this otherwise I would've completely forgotten I had one. Awesome.
Edit: To further clarify, if it matters my USB hub is a multi-TT hub, which was difficult to find since most manufacturers don't even advertise the feature. I needed one for MIDI latency reasons. If I remember correctly it has something to do with 2.0 devices on the hub receiving sufficient power and not getting dropped to 1.1?

iesvs said:
Roll-up keyboard working fine here through powered USB hub. Just as accurate as can be expected with these crappy things, but it works like it should.
Edit: Thanks for mentioning this otherwise I would've completely forgotten I had one. Awesome.
Edit: To further clarify, if it matters my USB hub is a multi-TT hub, which was difficult to find since most manufacturers don't even advertise the feature. I needed one for MIDI latency reasons. If I remember correctly it has something to do with 2.0 devices on the hub receiving sufficient power and not getting dropped to 1.1?
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Thanks. Would you say that the roll up keyboard is easier and/or faster than typing on kf virtual keyboard?

I was afraid you'd ask that.
bennettg said:
Thanks. Would you say that the roll up keyboard is easier and/or faster than typing on kf virtual keyboard?
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I'm gonna go ahead and say yes, simply because it's a full-size keyboard. It does take more effort than a standard keyboard to register presses being as flimsy as it is, but when my PC was still up and running I started to get used to it being my only full keyboard (I'm typing this from my laptop) and I got pretty quick with it. Trouble here is, aftering getting my Fire I'm pretty damn fast on an Android keyboard so my judgment is possibly skewed. I say go for it. It's really the only portable option aside from those little Bluetooth keyboards, if anyone even has those working yet. I also got my powered USB hub to register my flash drive so that's promising.

How exactly does a usb keyboard work with the KF?

Powered USB hub, all the way.
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How exactly does a usb keyboard work with the KF?
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I couldn't get enough power straight through my adapter or cable, so I used a powered USB hub. I rebooted the Fire, then the thing just worked. I'm really excited. I just hope the port provides enough power on its own for one of those tiny Bluetooth dongles. If not, I'm fairly certain there was a discussion thread here about trying to ramp up the voltages so hopefully they'll figure that out and integrate it into future releases. I really would like to be completely untethered.

I got a wireless foldable silicone keyboard which is water resistant. It comes in 5 colors. Black (which you posted), white, blue, green and pink.
You can get one at Silicone Keyboards

Docking Station

Hi,
so soon my nexus will be here and after over 6 years with iPhone I'm moving to try android.
one think i always loved about my iphone is the docking station, makes life better and easier.
now with the iphone its very easy to find docking station that fit 100% right, and then i dont have to worry about damage to the charging port, the phone is held up very tight and i never had any problem.
on the android camp its harder to find phone specific accessories so heres what i manage to find:
im looking for a cheap solution but can pay a little more if its really worth it
cheap:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-D...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2ecab22c6d
expensive:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-M...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item43c158ab0c
the expensive one at least comes with a cable, and heres a video i found that shows that this product might be a better choice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTyGmNTh6iA
i just dont want the device to wobble freely hanging only by the usb connector.
i also hear that micro usb is much weaker then apple connectors so im a bit worried.
any1 have any experince with such products? what do u think? am i risking damage to my usb port? thanks.

yossi_s1 said:
am i risking damage to my usb port? thanks.
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IMHO ... yes, you are risking damaging the port. I personally wouldn't even consider using one as I've gone through a bunch of phones that the Micro-USB eventually stopped working properly. The Nexus one was notorious for that problem as have been quite a few other devices. Micro-USB just doesn't hold up over time.
Now, back to your problem. One thing the Nexus 5 has over the iPhone is Qi Wireless charging. So, might I suggest stop thinking in terms of how you would plugin in your iPhone to charge it, and to sync it with iTunes. All of this can be done using apps that sync wirelessly (iSyncr etc) and a good Qi charger.
Here's a good starting point for a "dock" like standing position while your N5 charges:
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-DT910-Wireless-Charging-Stand/dp/B00A3NCC8M

It's important for you to note the orientation of the Micro USB port on the phone. On nexus devices reversed compared to the samsung phones those docks are for. I own the dock on the first link. It will not work with the Nexus.
You need one that's pin-side facing you. Unless you want the phone facing away from you
It's an annoying aspect of the Micro USB standard -- when it comes to direction, there is no standard.
DIY: Not ideal because it doesn't LOOK great but does WORK great. I bought the dock from that first link for my S3 and because of its 'universal'ness it was extremely wobbly, putting much undue strain on the port. I stuck a couple wads of Sugru down on the dock and behind the connector (where the phones back would rest) and stuck my phone in. When it dried after 30 minutes I had a perfect custom fit. Looked like **** though. Function over form in this case.

scirio said:
It's important for you to note the orientation of the Micro USB port on the phone. On nexus devices reversed compared to the samsung phones those docks are for. I own the dock on the first link. It will not work with the Nexus.
You need one that's pin-side facing you. Unless you want the phone facing away from you
It's an annoying aspect of the Micro USB standard -- when it comes to direction, there is no standard.
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this...
but this is also a relatively new thing as the Nexus 4 was the "standard" way that everyone is used to (small side up where the Nexus 5 flipped it to small side down)

For charging, I would recomend the Google's wireless charger: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Wireless_Charger?id=nexus_wireless_charger. As for syncing, what kind of things are you going to sync from your computer to your phone? On the android side the majority of things can/are synced over wifi or cloud services.
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Thanks for all the answers...
I didn't think about orientation lol, i forgot about this issue.. so docking stations seems meh ATM
about wireless chargers... quite expensive IMO and i always fear that since the phone is not being held tightly it might fall and break.
i put my phone on a nightstand near my bed so accidents in the dark could happen, and i also like it when the phone is standing so i can see the screen without picking it up.
so that limits the range of wireless chargers i can use.
syncing is not a problem btw.
good thing i asked here.. i almost bought one of those. i guess ill try to find wireless one that suites me.
thanks again!

yossi_s1 said:
Thanks for all the answers...
I didn't think about orientation lol, i forgot about this issue.. so docking stations seems meh ATM
about wireless chargers... quite expensive IMO and i always fear that since the phone is not being held tightly it might fall and break.
i put my phone on a nightstand near my bed so accidents in the dark could happen, and i also like it when the phone is standing so i can see the screen without picking it up.
so that limits the range of wireless chargers i can use.
syncing is not a problem btw.
good thing i asked here.. i almost bought one of those. i guess ill try to find wireless one that suites me.
thanks again!
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Google is your friend as usual, Kidigi are about to launch a Nexus 5 specific dock which is more substantial than the one you were looking at.