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HD Dock for Atrix, any reviews?

Hello all.
Just wondering if anyone has this and wouldnt mind putting up their opionion on it. It looks cool and it's currently $79.99 with free shipping on amazon. I know theres the mod to make it work with just the HDMI out, but the added function with the USB ports, make it a little better and less of a "hack job.."
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mult..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0HWYEBKJMAYFCF63E22S

I like to know this as well.

Hey guys,
I bought the same one from Amazon. It is just a dock with ports for connecting the USB, Power, and HDMI. The only thing I hate about it is getting the phone into the dock slot. You have to hold it just right to have the two ports on the phone aligning with the dock. The dock slot was not designed to help guide the phone into the connectors. Once you got it into the dock it’s fit great. The dock is usefully if you do not have a Bluetooth keyboard or mouse. I plug my wireless keyboard into the USB and it is good to go.
I did the WebTop mod and it is great to use when you are at friends house or traveling. The dock also allows you to access other options when it is dock.
WebTop
Entertainment Center
Clock Dock
I like the Clock Dock, since my phone is also my alarm clock.
Oh, if you got a case on your phone it will not fit into the HD dock. I own the Incipio case. It’s very thin but still doesn’t fit the dock.
Peter

Multimedia dock for Atrix
I bought the dock with remote for the Atrix (came with the IR remote).
I concur with the issue regarding aligning the unit to the usb and hdmi ports on the phone -- I spend a few seconds each time trying to get everything lined up (and hope I'm not scratching the phone in the process).
Other than that, the dock is very nice. I prefer using wired keyboards and USB mice rather than bluetooth -- it keeps the BT free for audio (listening to music).
I have my dock set up at work and connected to a KVM switch to connect my phone to the keyboard/mouse I use for the two computers at my desk. I don't switch video with the KVM switch, and I leave the phone in the "do nothing" mode most of the time so I can use the phone without the monitor.
The keyboard works great and I can use it to compose emails and SMS messages while it's on the dock.
My biggest disappointment is the operation of the mouse when it's on the dock and not in Webtop mode. The phone does not create a mouse cursor in the "do nothing" mode to allow you to use the mouse effectively, so you have to reach over and touch the screen to control the device. Using the mouse is pretty much useless as it jumps from icon to icon and you can't really predict where you are going when operating the mouse.
In webtop mode, you get a cursor, and operating the mouse is as you would exepect -- you can control the phone display mode with the cursor and it's as intuitive as using your finger. This is what should have been available when you're not in Webtop mode with a mouse.
If you hook up the monitor without a keyboard and mouse, the phone display turns into a laptop touchpad control. A keyboard icon is also available to switch to keyboard input as well. An external mouse and keyboard are highly recommended, however.
In short, the dock is awesome, and I plan on getting two more (without remotes); one for my desk at home and work (this one will be put on my home entertainment system so I can use the remote to control the device for music and videos.)
-Mark Sly
P.S.
I also am interested in what Motorola may be offering in terms of the "ruggedized case" mentioned in the manual for the dock. If you have an Otterbox or other protective case for your phone, you will likely will have to remove the device from the case in order to dock the unit.
The manual for the dock mentioned another insert you can place on the dock to accomodate the ruggedized case, but I can't find anything on Motorola's website for ordering either the insert or the case.

Just had my HD Dock yesterday.. Is there a way I can customize the webtop (desktop) other than change the wallpaper? Nothing special, it looks like it just blow up the 4" screen to 42" screen but the resolution is still the same. I was expecting somethin like opening multiple windows at the same time and multitask.
I had it connected to my 42" 1080p LED TV but looked like 50pixels all around the screen is gone! I can only see the minimize button on the upper right hand corner, restore can still be clicked if i drag my cursor all the way to the corner and click blindly, but the close button is totally gone. Is there an "fit to screen" option?
It great nonetheless..

powered ports on dock?
Usually, the fit to screen setting is on the tv itself. Check your remote for the aspect or zoom key, or in the settings somewhere.
But while I'm here, I had a question for you dock owners. Are the usb ports powered with 500ma? Has anyone tried connecting an external 2.5 hd to it?

Might want to check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980193

daetrin said:
Usually, the fit to screen setting is on the tv itself. Check your remote for the aspect or zoom key, or in the settings somewhere.
But while I'm here, I had a question for you dock owners. Are the usb ports powered with 500ma? Has anyone tried connecting an external 2.5 hd to it?
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thanks bro.. i set the screen resolution to 16:9 and it fits just perfectly!

thatboyp said:
Oh, if you got a case on your phone it will not fit into the HD dock. I own the Incipio case. It’s very thin but still doesn’t fit the dock.
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You can remove the insert on the dock and the Incipio will fit. The only problem now is it is too loose. A thicker case like Speck or Bodyglove will probably fit better.

atrix accesory for photon 4g?

hey all,
can we use atrix multimedia dock with photon 4g?
i read somewhere that its just inverted pin layout for dock .
is it possible to use atrix multimedia dock with photon 4g with some hardware changes.

drpratik said:
hey all,
can we use atrix multimedia dock with photon 4g?
i read somewhere that its just inverted pin layout for dock .
is it possible to use atrix multimedia dock with photon 4g with some hardware changes.
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the ports are reversed; if you can somehow do a hardware change to either the phone (lol) or the Dock (more likely) then you should be able to use it without a problem. the laptop works just fine with the dock inverted; why wouldn't the dock?

Exactly my friend,
I am planning to invert port on dock itself.
Any pointers? ?

Or instead of messing with the Hardware you could make an Adapter to invert the ports back. Not sure how you would do that but I would assume that would be easier and less likely to break a $200 or $300 or however much it cost, piece of equipment.

Webtop for Nexus

Is there anyway you can get the webtop on the Nexus?
I'm torn between the RAZR and Nexus for my upgrade
If nexus can get Webtop then that's an easy win

Wouldn't count on it.

It won't work since the Nexus does not have a mini hdmi port.

It would probably be much easier to build something like webtop from the ground up than port it. In either highly unlikely youll see either.
I invented cyberspace. You're trespassing.

HDMI on Nexus
Just a thought all, the Samsung Infuse comes with a Mini USB adapter/connector that outputs to HDMI. Whether or not this could aid in Webtop development for the Nexus I'm not sure. Just a thought! but also agree this may be a lost cause!

Webtop
Hello,
A little birdy told me wait..wait...wait
Also, the Galaxy Nexus has an MHL port, which is a combo of USB-on-the-go, HDMI, and USB charging. You can get a USB/HDMI -> MHL cord for all MHL phones.

is there someone who tried the hdmi functionality?
In any case webtop like will not be possible since you can connect both hdmi and mouse on the same port

You can create something close. Simply get the MHL cable everyone is talking about, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, connect it all to the nexus and you have one giant tablet-like interface =) Not really too portable since you can't carry around an LCD screen though, lol.

DarthPiggie said:
You can create something close. Simply get the MHL cable everyone is talking about, a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, connect it all to the nexus and you have one giant tablet-like interface =) Not really too portable since you can't carry around an LCD screen though, lol.
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not really the same, webtop is way better for this.

Tablet + phone?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

player911 said:
Tablet + phone?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
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More like netbook+phone. See Atrix, Bionic, etc. Although it's more acceptable than optimal, Moto has a large head start on this type of solution.
For tablet+phone, Asus may have an interesting entry in 1H2012.

I came across Airdroid if your connected to a Network. This is Pretty awsome. I just like texting with a keyboard. It runs in your desktop Browser
In the market (can't Link as new user)

KevParlee said:
Is there anyway you can get the webtop on the Nexus?
I'm torn between the RAZR and Nexus for my upgrade
If nexus can get Webtop then that's an easy win
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To be honest, the only thing I like about the Razr is SmartApps, the Design of the phone, and moto always does a good job of media sharing ala DLNA.
The software and screen resolution alone make the galaxy nexus better. Updates straight from google and the newest O.S. make it better. I'm sick and tired of manufacturers trying to reskin android and delaying updates to "make sure it's compatible with their phones".
With that said, the closest thing you can do, right now, would be to get the MHL adapter. Or use something like airdroid.

KevParlee said:
I came across Airdroid if your connected to a Network. This is Pretty awsome. I just like texting with a keyboard. It runs in your desktop Browser
In the market (can't Link as new user)
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Airdroid isn't related with webtop.
Webtop is good when you haven't got a computer, in this case you can use a monitor and your phone as a computer.
With AirDroid you need a computer to access the phone, pretty useless imho.

Some interesting reads:
This talks about how the MHL technology can be used to hook the Nexus up to an HDMI TV. The main problem is not being able to charge the phone while using it, unless you have a newer MHL supporting phone.
http://www.talkandroid.com/89887-galaxy-nexus-desktop-better-than-motorola-webtop/#.T24bZzEV0QQ
Which made me think, someone out there could very easily create a "go between" that would hook up to the USB of the phone, a charger, and the HDMI of the TV... and I was right!
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...F380/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1332616212&sr=8-8
I'm going to be playing with this stuff a bit more after that adapter comes in the mail...

The Nexus can output to HDMI. All you need is a program to alter output vs a straight mirror.
What most people do now, is lower their DPI to 190 and use a bluetooth mouse/keyboard.
If someone were to build a program to alter the output, like a full screen launcher with a faux status bar, etc... you could also use the touchscreen as a mousepad. But honestly a Bluetooth Keyboard/Mouse is best so you can put the phone near the TV/Monitor and you can be across the room.
I did this with my G2x (which had a dedicated HDMI port) and not only used a keyboard/mouse but also my PS3 gamepad for games.

[Q] Asus Transformer-like Keyboard and Mouse?

Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone of you know if samsung has a keyboard and mouse similar to that of the Asus Transfomer. I searched over amazon but I couldn't find anything. It is not necessarily made by Samsung, it could be made by other manufacturers.
http://cdn4.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/asus_transformer-625x499.png

Samsung has their own docking keyboard, which works fine. Next to that, as the keyboard is white, I have added a white wireless bluetooth mouse by Logitech, which works fine as well.
Who needs a laptop after that.

Doodle said:
Samsung has their own docking keyboard, which works fine. Next to that, as the keyboard is white, I have added a white wireless bluetooth mouse by Logitech, which works fine as well.
Who needs a laptop after that.
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I've seen that but what's interesting about the Asus keyboard/mouse is that it is very slim and it can be folded while if you want to hold the samsung keyboard, you will have to use a both hands maybe

No, I use it in my lap as a keyboard without needing two hands. The connection is secure. The mail advantage of the keyboard are that it has a number of special keys, and that it does charge the Tab wile inserted in the keyboard. Mail disadvantage is that it does require you to use the samsung stock software keyboard on the tab. The external keyboard requires that.

SamerBerjawi said:
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone of you know if samsung has a keyboard and mouse similar to that of the Asus Transfomer. I searched over amazon but I couldn't find anything. It is not necessarily made by Samsung, it could be made by other manufacturers.
http://cdn4.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/asus_transformer-625x499.png
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If you can get your hands on this official keyboard case, this I think beats the Asus transformer in style and portability, though battery life will take a toll since it's bluetooth. Problem is, I can't see any US vendors selling it.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10008260-4.html

i got the keyboard dock as well. Went with the white one instead of the new bluetooth keyboard from samsung with a folding case since i don't wanna use bluetooth to preserve battery life.
The advantage is that its rock steady in its position and you can easily have it your lap on teh bus for example. the downside is that you can adjust the angle. although i'm fine with the angle the way it is but they could have maybe made it a bit more adjustable somehow.
i also got the official usb adapter which i use for mouse, works so far with every mouse i've tried, and its snappy!
i would recommend a wireless mouse with a tiny usb dongle instead of bluetooth. mainly due to battery life. i'm getting one myself, just using a wired mouse atm.
on another note, the usb adapter works quite well also, even tho its a bit on the large side i'm content with it. to my own surprise i plugged in my old usb saitek cyborg gamepad (looks like a x360 controller only you can switch place with the d-pad and left analogue stick) and it worked perfectly with my emulators!
one suggestion on the usb adapter tho, if you're using it for mouse you are better of plugging in the mouse first and then plugging the adapter into the keyboard dock (with mouse already plugged in). Seems like a lot less risk of breaking it that way. that's why i don't like adatpers that much, but guess it's the price to pay when you get as slick and slim tablet as the galaxy tab. no UBS port from start. still it has better placement of the pin connector than ipad for example since you can't have it netbook style in apple's keyboard dock due to that fact, but the galaxy tab becomes just like a netbook when combined with the keyboard dock.
also the keyboard dock is not a hassle to bring along on the road and it feels sturdy and well built. and it's also about half the price of the new bluetooth keyboard with case, at least here in sweden. I might get the bluetooth one for portability since it's obviously a bit less space demanding, but not much compared to the keyboard dock. but at the current price i'll hold off a bit since i'm so satisfied with my solid keyboard dock. feels good to type on too IMO.
i'll end my rant now

Jnn1 said:
If you can get your hands on this official keyboard case, this I think beats the Asus transformer in style and portability, though battery life will take a toll since it's bluetooth. Problem is, I can't see any US vendors selling it.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10008260-4.html
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I have this Samsung Folio BT Keyboard. Love it. Works very well. But for home i use the samsung charging kb dock. Love it too

[Q] Smart Dock on Note 8.0?

I'm wondering if anyone has tried using the smart dock with the Note 8.0
Note II is really similar, so I would hope that the Note 8.0 will work
The Samsung site says Note II and Galaxy IV so now I'm a little iffy.
The MHL and OTG adapters are pretty universal, but I can only use one at a time
2 usb ports plus the HDMI would be great for me at the office since I can plug in the tab and have it running on my 2nd monitor (along with KB and mouse)
Has anyone tried yet?

kisaten said:
I'm wondering if anyone has tried using the smart dock with the Note 8.0
Note II is really similar, so I would hope that the Note 8.0 will work
The Samsung site says Note II and Galaxy IV so now I'm a little iffy.
The MHL and OTG adapters are pretty universal, but I can only use one at a time
2 usb ports plus the HDMI would be great for me at the office since I can plug in the tab and have it running on my 2nd monitor (along with KB and mouse)
Has anyone tried yet?
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It works great. I tried it with mine, and I have seen reports of other users using theirs.

robyr said:
It works great. I tried it with mine, and I have seen reports of other users using theirs.
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Are you able to put the Note 8.0 into landscape when using the Smart Dock? Also, is the device stable enough to be written upon with S-pen while docked?
BTW, is there any other way to get USB- OTG and HDMI functionality simultaneously? (sans the Smart Dock)

I have the Smart Dock for my Note II and it works well. I haven't received my Int'l 3G Note 8.0 yet to test it, but it's good to hear that others have it working.
Since the Smart Dock holds both devices in Portrait orientation, it will not automatically put the display in Landscape mode unless you are playing a video. You would have to use a 3rd party app such as "Orientation Control".
I doubt you could write on the Note 8.0's screen successfully while in the dock. The dock is roughly 3" square and is not heavy enough to stabilize the tab for anything but very light screen taps or swipes. The device is not secured in the dock other than the by microUSB connector. The device just rests in the dock under its own weight, vertically.
The Smart Dock is not made to hold the device physically in a Landscape orientation. I'm not sure if a microUSB-to-microUSB extension cable would work to retain the functions and allow a separate landscape "holder" or case/cover to be used without the actual Smart Dock attached? Hmmm...
Oh, AFAIK, and I've researched fairly thoroughly, I couldn't find any other way to achieve HDMI, Audio, and USB OTG simultaneously. You might be able to use the Allcast Media Hub for wireless HDMI & Audio, and then connect a USB OTG adapter to the Note 8.0's microUSB/MHL port, but I haven't tested that.
Hope this helps.

bbfoto said:
I have the Smart Dock for my Note II and it works well. I haven't received my Int'l 3G Note 8.0 yet to test it, but it's good to hear that others have it working.
Since the Smart Dock holds both devices in Portrait orientation, it will not automatically put the display in Landscape mode unless you are playing a video. You would have to use a 3rd party app such as "Orientation Control".
I doubt you could write on the Note 8.0's screen successfully while in the dock. The dock is roughly 3" square and is not heavy enough to stabilize the tab for anything but very light screen taps or swipes. The device is not secured in the dock other than the by microUSB connector. The device just rests in the dock under its own weight, vertically.
The Smart Dock is not made to hold the device physically in a Landscape orientation. I'm not sure if a microUSB-to-microUSB extension cable would work to retain the functions and allow a separate landscape "holder" or case/cover to be used without the actual Smart Dock attached? Hmmm...
Oh, AFAIK, and I've researched fairly thoroughly, I couldn't find any other way to achieve HDMI, Audio, and USB OTG simultaneously. You might be able to use the Allcast Media Hub for wireless HDMI & Audio, and then connect a USB OTG adapter to the Note 8.0's microUSB/MHL port, but I haven't tested that.
Hope this helps.
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Thanks, it was very helpful. I was thinking of getting the Smart Dock in lieu of the HDMI adapter. USB-OTG + HDMI at same time isn't much of a necessity for me. HDMI is still primary for me. Audio, when required could be used from the 3.5 mm jack.
Guess, it would be better to go for the HDMI adapter.
BTW, do you have any experience on HDMI to VGA converters?Do they work well? Actually I need to hook up the Note 8.0 to a VGA projector?

^No worries.
I don't have a ton of experience with HDMI-to-VGA adapters, but I would trust the people at the following link to steer you in the right direction...
http://www.comprehensivecable.com/
Click on the "Adapters" tab, have a look, then shoot them an email. They're very helpful and knowledgeable.
You might also try http://www.monoprice.com
VGA doesn't carry Audio signals, so you would most likely need a unit that would extract the audio from the HDMI as well as the Video signal, and then route the Audio to a separate connector/cable. I have seen some VGA cables that also have a 3.5mm Stereo audio plug at each end, so you can hook up the audio output from your PC's sound card and plug it into the 3.5mm audio Jack on most video projectors. You can find these at http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=180-285
Good luck.

bbfoto said:
^No worries.
I don't have a ton of experience with HDMI-to-VGA adapters, but I would trust the people at the following link to steer you in the right direction...
http://www.comprehensivecable.com/
Click on the "Adapters" tab, have a look, then shoot them an email. They're very helpful and knowledgeable.
You might also try http://www.monoprice.com
VGA doesn't carry Audio signals, so you would most likely need a unit that would extract the audio from the HDMI as well as the Video signal, and then route the Audio to a separate connector/cable. I have seen some VGA cables that also have a 3.5mm Stereo audio plug at each end, so you can hook up the audio output from your PC's sound card and plug it into the 3.5mm audio Jack on most video projectors. You can find these at http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=180-285
Good luck.
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Yes, I have seen some which can extract audio from the HDMI feed.
There are a number of listings on eBay in my country. I would love to get it from a reliable website, but most of them are overseas and the customs department in India makes it a lot of hassle.
I ordered a display adapter from dx.com once. No problems with website or the product, but it was held up for a month at the customs office and finally I had to pay a 50% duty as well.
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I picked up a smart dock today and I am playing with it right now.
Some issues, having to repower up the dock for usb to work after tablet is inserted.
And I am not having any sound come out of the 3.5 jack on the back of the dock.
Also it I am using a HDMI to DVI adaptor for my moniter and I am using an orentation control app with it.
Wish it worked with my Galaxy s3.

Ravanous said:
I picked up a smart dock today and I am playing with it right now.
Some issues, having to repower up the dock for usb to work after tablet is inserted.
And I am not having any sound come out of the 3.5 jack on the back of the dock.
Also it I am using a HDMI to DVI adaptor for my moniter and I am using an orentation control app with it.
Wish it worked with my Galaxy s3.
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Is your Note 8.0 battery level above 80% when you put it in the dock? If not, the tablet will draw too much power from the power adapter just to CHARGE the tablet, and the USB ports do not have sufficient power. If your tablet or phone battery is over 80%, this isn't a problem and you shouldn't have to "re-Dock" it to get the USB ports to work. Samsung should have made the power adapter more powerful (3 or 4 amps).
To get audio output from the 3.5mm rear Jack, you need to go into SETTINGS > ACCESSORY > AUDIO OUTPUT MODE, and Check the box for "Use External Speakers when device is Docked".

Ravanous said:
I picked up a smart dock today and I am playing with it right now.
Some issues, having to repower up the dock for usb to work after tablet is inserted.
And I am not having any sound come out of the 3.5 jack on the back of the dock.
Also it I am using a HDMI to DVI adaptor for my moniter and I am using an orentation control app with it.
Wish it worked with my Galaxy s3.
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Just to be clear, are you able to Use the S-Pen when docked, any way to keep the tablet physically in a landscape position?
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agambhandari said:
Just to be clear, are you able to Use the S-Pen when docked, any way to keep the tablet physically in a landscape position?
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I thought I had answered your Portrait/Landscape question in paragraphs 3 & 4 of Post #4? Read through it again. The smart dock does not hold the tablet in a Landscape (horizontal) orientation at all. You could possibly use a case or cover on the Note 8.0 that would hold it in landscape, or use Samsung's Note 8.0 Car Mount and then connect the tablet to the Smart Dock with a 11-pin Male-to-Female micro-USB extension cable.
Hope this helps.

bbfoto said:
I thought I had answered your Portrait/Landscape question in paragraphs 3 & 4 of Post #4? Read through it again. The smart dock does not hold the tablet in a Landscape (horizontal) orientation at all. You could possibly use a case or cover on the Note 8.0 that would hold it in landscape, or use Samsung's Note 8.0 Car Mount and then connect the tablet to the Smart Dock with a 11-pin Male-to-Female micro-USB extension cable.
Hope this helps.
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Yes, I had already read your post.
But the other member claimed to have already used it with the Note8, whereas you told me that you were still expecting your note 8, so I was keen to know more about the actual experience of a user.
BTW, Do you know if 11 pin USB extension cables are available?
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Take a look at a picture of the smart dock, or look at nztechfreak's YouTube review of it. Just from its physical size and design there is no way that the Smart Dock can support or hold a tablet in a Landscape or horizontal position when on a desk/flat surface...or any surface.
For reference, I just tried my Note II in the Smart Dock with the phone and dock laying on its side. The dock will hold the Note II in landscape position, but the phone is at a perfect 90° angle to the table's surface, which makes it hard to use the touchscreen, and it will easily become undocked, as there is no pressure or weight to secure the device. And there is nothing directly behind the phone to keep it from moving or sliding back when you press the screen. Also, at least one USB port will be inaccessible because it or they will be against the table's surface when the dock is laying on its side. This dock was simply made to only hold a PHONE (either the Note II, SGS3, or SGS4) in a vertical Portrait position. It's obvious from the design that it was not made for landscape use whatsoever. It just happens to hold the Note II on its side because the dock is the same width as the phone.
I don't believe that Samsung will ever make a LANDSCAPE Desk dock for the Note 8.0. It is clear from its general design that Samsung intended this tablet to be used as a "Notepad" in a Portrait (vertical) orientation. The only odd exception is the position of the IR Blaster on the side (the SGS4 IR Blaster is on the top). I would definitely like a landscape desk dock as well, but I'm not convinced that it would be practical for this particular tablet. However, there is a car/windshield mount listed on Samsung's web site that looks like it will hold the tablet in landscape mode.
I'm searching for the extension cables now and will post here if & when I find them.
Thanks.

I never tried the S-Pen while in the dock. Also I tried the settings mentioned above to get the 3.5 sound to work, but no luck.
I took it back, I'll wait for a proper one to come out, or try with the wifi all share hub and build somthing that way.

Got one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/23108138465...769&_trkparms=ga1m=T1&ga2m=T0&ga3m=T1&ga4m=T2
If I hook up USB+charger and THEN the HDMI, it works. For some reason (lack of power???) it won't accept a flash drive if I plug a hub in and the flash drive into that. (I use a Bluetooth keyboard and a USB mouse.)
Haven't bit the bullet on the official smart dock yet though :'(.