I've asked the people at HTC and it's what they reply.
Anthony: Will HTC release the Android 4.0 update to wildfire S?
CS : We are currently developing a software update for the HTC Wildfire S , and committed to our customers with the perfect embodiment of mobile phone use, but test the stability of the system and before that the system will continue to use the original, Sorry for this inconvenience, but please rest assured, our commitment has not changed, please pay attention to our official channels on the latest developments on this subject, thank you for your patience and understanding. (Using Google Translate, with a little bit modify)
A software update is in development! Yes! This means bootloader tools will be included!
I don't think they mean Ice Cream Sandwich with this update - HTC are still deciding on how they are going to develop and incorporate that with HTC sense. But it's definitely going to appear on 2011 models - but not soon.
All I want is the bootloader to be unlocked. I don't need them to work on version upgrades. There are already some ROMs available without S-OFF. It will only get better.
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Ice Cream Sandwich + Sense will be the hardest thing to develop... Let's see what HTC can do!
Bootloader will depend to them, if they want to unlock it or not...
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After news of the massive security hole in Sense I'm actually looking for ROMs without Sense.
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Re 4.0 from HTC's Facebook page.
Since Google unveiled Ice Cream Sandwich earlier this week, HTC has been looking closely at the new OS’s features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans.
We’re a recognized industry leader in providing fast and consistent upgrades to our Android devices, and Ice Cream Sandwich will be no different.
Upgrades require a careful balance of hardware and software to ensure the best possible performance and usability, so please stay tuned as we assess our product portfolio. Our goal is to upgrade as many HTC devices as possible and we’ll be sharing details on specific devices and timing in the coming weeks!
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I hope at least they remove bloated apps. or move them to htchub.
and personally, I prefer stable and secure platform.
drsjlazar said:
After news of the massive security hole in Sense I'm actually looking for ROMs without Sense.
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It wasn't that massive, nor has there been any evidence of anyone actually exploiting it.
Also, it only applied to Sense 3.0 and 3.5. Sense 2.1, which is what the WFS has as stock, was unaffected.
HTC have since acknowledged the problem and have fixed it themselves, and most custom Sense 3.0 / 3.5 ROMs cooked by any decent developer have the files in question removed. However, if you're using a custom ROM where they haven't been removed you can do it yourself with Root Explorer or similar app.
However, if you still want a Sense-less ROM the closest you'll get on the WFS is the CM7 ROM in the Development section
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I hope at least they remove bloated apps. or move them to htchub.
and personally, I prefer stable and secure platform.
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Once rooted you can remove whatever you don't want, even HTC and provider apps
hey its a really good thing,hope they come out with it fast
I prefer the unlocked bootloader than android 4.0 version...
Just wait for cm9 port.
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Hi guys,
I'm looking for a new custom rom for my phone, just rooted it... all gravy but fancy trying something of the things those genius chefs have been cooking!
I was looking for a Gingerbread rom with the HTC Sense style theme, but can't seem to find one; does one exist? I've had a look through the index and the developmnent forums but can only find Froyo Sense Roms. It's not a huge issue but it would be nice as I quite like the Sense layout and apps n' stuff
Also, any recommendations on roms? I think I'm going to try some of the gingerbead ones regardless of the htc sense(I like the sound of some of the enhancements) but wonder if anyones using something they can whole heartedly recommend, froyo or no?
Yeah, I would be interested in this too...
Not gonna happen, would need a complete re-write of Sense
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Not gonna happen, would need a complete re-write of Sense
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Indeed. Try different roms and see which you like. Also, if you want different "styles" of sense, install a HD rom but it's still 2.2. Or you can just wait for 2.3 to be released for Desire which shouldn't be that long really.
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Indeed. Try different roms and see which you like. Also, if you want different "styles" of sense, install a HD rom but it's still 2.2. Or you can just wait for 2.3 to be released for Desire which shouldn't be that long really.
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Ya I've gone for a 2.2 for now, I imagine I'll stick with it for a while until I feel a real 'need' to upgrade to 2.3.
Until HTC releases the 2.3 update for the Desire(s), nothing can be done :/
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Yes wait for new sense gingerbread. Or honeycomb rom
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To be honest, I much prefer Gingerbread ROMs and have found Ultimate Droid 3.0.0 to be the best so far.
On top of this I use Launcherpro, which contains awesome Sense style widgets for calendar/facebook/bookmarks/contacts etc.
See it here:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/launcherpro/com.fede.launcher
I also use Fancy Widgets with the H7 clock theme as this gives me the Sense style clock on my homescreen as well.
See it here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/fancy-widget-looks-wee-bit-familiar
I love this setup
wildcardspv
I've actually seen a photo or 2.3.1 Sense 'running' as it were so it exists but it's on one of the new HTC handsets. Whether we'll see it on the Desire is another matter
was it the new htc desire 2 ? ? cant wait for desire 2 to be released.. im sure it packages gingerbread with sense and full support for honeycomb !
Honeycomb is for tablets only. There will prob be something similar for smartphones later on, maybe 2.4 or 3.0, who knows. But no, Honeycomb is non existant for phones for now.
HTC desire S
with sense and android 2.3.2 and now??
search on the youtube this sentence:
"HTC Desire S Videopreview da Telefonino.net @ MWC 2011"
I have faith it will come out until mid-year has the rom gingerbread-Sense
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Honeycomb is for tablets only. There will prob be something similar for smartphones later on, maybe 2.4 or 3.0, who knows. But no, Honeycomb is non existant for phones for now.
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2.4 has already been released, it's an update release from Google of 2.3 full of BugFixes. The Desire S will be released running 2.4, as will the HTC Desire when the new sense comes to it. Check out the thread I posted covering HTC's confirmation plans to update the HTC Desire range to 2.4. This includes all models of the HTC Desire released at the moment.
Also Honeycomb will be released for phones, just only phones that have Dual Core Processors, so thats every single HTC device at the moment out of that league. Hope I helped guys
Sort of it...
Okay, Here's what you can get if you son't mind it not being an ACTUAL Sense UI
Sense UI Themes for Launcher Pro
It's not perfect, but a quick google of Sense UI Launcher Pro theme brings up quite a bit...
i'm kinda new to this but i really recommend this oxygen-2.0-RC7
I think our wait will be over soon.
Already sense ginger is on you tube.
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Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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Even with a dump, that new sense looks very demanding and the specs of the Desire S are slightly better than the Desire, still im not upgrading to a Desire S, my contract has almost reached one year, and after that I still have another year to go..
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Of course it's on YouTube - the Desire S has it out the box! Doesn't mean we'll get it soon, not until a dump is about (and not a test one doing the rounds)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955680
here it is
looks like you'r in luck.. its gonna be possible soon, there is a leaked rom out:
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903507
sorry wrong link .. this is the correct one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955680
so lets hope the porting will start happening soon
Half the stuff I see says yes half says no. I one article said yes just a different variation of 3.0 . Excuse me if it's been addressed I'm new to htc devices all together but really like the stock 3.0 sense. I'm basing whether or not I'm giving my d3 to wife on this.
Well considering Virtuous Unity is the ROM ported from the Sensation I'd do ahead and sayyyyyyy yes.
Stock no because HTC said 3.0 is for hi-res dual core devices. Rooted yes Virtuous' 3.0 ROM is practically like using a stock 3.0 ROM for the Inc2. Speed and battery are excellent and match that of the stock 2.1 ROM. With that said if the decision to get the Inc2 is based off of 3.0 availability, then get it because 3.0 is awesome and 2.1 is great too. Either way you won't be dissatisfied.
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Hmmm I'm torn didn't know root would be needed ill probably wind up rooting it anyway but essentially id be trading a future proof phone for a phone they've pretty much finished supporting on the software side. The they'll be updates and tweaks I'm sure buuuuuuut
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Imao motoblur or sense. Simple decision. Phone that can be rooted or locked bootloader. A MOTO phone that's basically dead now that Google bought them.
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Well there really is nothing wrong with rooting the phone unless you plan on watching movies on the market. The nice thing about rooting is the freedom of choice. You can install a pure AOSP ROM, custom sense ROM, or hybrid all while knowing that the devs community is optimizing it for the phone more than what the manufacture would due to return on their investment. Honestly sense 3.0 is rock solid so don't fret about needing to root.
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I am still unrooted. I may root. I may not. I have rooted three device and I can say that the Inc2 runs well as stock, unlike my other devices did (nook, d1, and fascinate). Runs fast and smooth with no lag and great battery. There is some pretty cool stuff going on in the development section, so I may eventually check out root, but it's not a necessity for me atm. Even Sense 2.1 has a lot of great features and crushes the new blur to pieces.
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I am still unrooted. I may root. I may not. I have rooted three device and I can say that the Inc2 runs well as stock, unlike my other devices did (nook, d1, and fascinate). Runs fast and smooth with no lag and great battery. There is some pretty cool stuff going on in the development section, so I may eventually check out root, but it's not a necessity for me atm. Even Sense 2.1 has a lot of great features and crushes the new blur to pieces.
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i've been using moto blur for 2 years now and from what I've seen recently in sense it definitely appears to be more intuitive and full of features. Guess time will tell my dinc2 should arrive tommorow or Thursday. i've got all of the root stuff downloaded already but I will use the phone for some time before I take the plunge especially since I'm told you can't unroot yet.
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ICS will come to your phones, and the WFSDev Team would like to know which
ICS ROMs you are going to us or which you want for your WFS.
Let us know it
Ps. You can select more if you want
Erm, this is probably a stupid question, but by this statement, do you mean that ICS is coming to our phones via Cyanogenmod, or are we getting an official upgrade to ICS? I saw someone's post about our phones not receiving any more upgrades in the future and this kind of confuses me :S
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Erm, this is probably a stupid question, but by this statement, do you mean that ICS is coming to our phones via Cyanogenmod, or are we getting an official upgrade to ICS? I saw someone's post about our phones not receiving any more upgrades in the future and this kind of confuses me :S
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Its no stupid question. We will get it from modpunk cm9. Google say that we could update your phone, but htc wont update it. Mabey with luck but i dont think so.
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is the ics roms like cm9 and miui v4 coming within the next few weeks or so?
Sense till Gingerbread looked great but it's just crappy on ICS........ even HTC thinks Sense 4.0 is too much bloated...
I m waiting for miui ics eagerly. Bcz basic ics is not more attractive than miui..and lack of miui rom we cant use miui .mdz(themes) files which have so many option for look change...but it seems 1.4.5 is crappy till now for daily use..so i m chekng evry time for progress...i thnk more devs shoud work together for it for fast updates...thnx for this thread.
I also expect for sense 3.0 rom...i thnk it is far away till nowww...no 1 dev seems to b interested in it till nw.
Sorry for poor english
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I will use MIUI. I think.
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CM9 ovbiously
obviously sense4 by benjamin!
thelegbra said:
obviously sense4 by benjamin!
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LOL, I wrote on IRC chat that he will port it
I'd use CM9 if it does away with the slightly choppy graphics of CM7. I've always been a fan of Cyanogenmod but I can't stand the laggy graphics, so I'm currently using a Sense ROM. However, the 'old' Sense is integrated with our devices and works more smoothly as a result (in my opinion, at least), but Sense 4.0 isn't, so I'm expecting the same choppiness outside of games. And another thing - if CM9 is stock ICS, then it will have those software buttons that would just take up what little screen space we have, am I right? MIUI, on the other hand, I've never liked. It looks like a bloaty cross between iOS and TouchWiz to me and I find both CM and Sense far superior to it.
So, to round it off, I'd use CM9 if it isn't choppier than Sense 4.0 and has no software buttons, since it offers more than Sense 4.0 (I prefer the old Sense, honestly), even if Sense does add a lot of polish to the bare ICS.
So basically i found this through the news on xda-dev main site :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28020178&postcount=36
Its how to port Jelly bean to your device, if someone could just do that, we would have jelly bean..right?
could someone with experiences please try it out? Would be kick-ass if it worked!:victory:
We don't have JB because the source hasn't been released; sure, someone can port a JB build to our device but since no drivers have been released it would be buggy as hell. What would be the point of having JB if it rendered your device unusable?
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Simply put, the best luck the Vision/DZ/G2 has of getting JB is if there is an official Rom released for it (or released to hardware that is very very very similar to the phone's own hardware).
Thus why it took a while for any 'decent' ICS roms to show up on the DZ, and even then some stuff still doesn't work as well as gingerbread (i.e.: the camera and other hardware that HTC has not released the source for yet, or may never do so).
So it's going to be a while before you actually see an 'alpha' quality functioning JB rom for Vision/G2/DZ. Especially since HTC has no plans to release ICS for this phone, everything after gingerbread will most likely have to be reverse engineered.
If it was just easy as all that it would have been done already.
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Simply put, the best luck the Vision/DZ/G2 has of getting JB is if there is an official Rom released for it (or released to hardware that is very very very similar to the phone's own hardware).
Thus why it took a while for any 'decent' ICS roms to show up on the DZ, and even then some stuff still doesn't work as well as gingerbread (i.e.: the camera and other hardware that HTC has not released the source for yet, or may never do so).
So it's going to be a while before you actually see an 'alpha' quality functioning JB rom for Vision/G2/DZ. Especially since HTC has no plans to release ICS for this phone, everything after gingerbread will most likely have to be reverse engineered.
If it was just easy as all that it would have been done already.
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Okai, thanks!
So there are rumours going around the the HTC desire HD Will be updated to J-b, so for example (because the devices are..a little bit similar) Someone could work on it.and it might work? Right ?
( HTC said when releasing ICS for some devices that they would not update the Desire Z any more / devices with less than 500 ROM RAM right? )
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( HTC said when releasing ICS for some devices that they would not update the Desire Z any more / devices with less than 500 ROM RAM right? )
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Turns out HTC's own staff are idiots, they're talking bout 512MB RAM or less will not get ICS. ROM wouldn't make much sense, since even the Desire-Z can have either 409MB /system or 549MB /system depending on which hboot used.
The DHD has 768 MB RAM, and the HTC blog already confirms that DHD will get it:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
detailed dates here : http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/?cid=android4blog
July-August for the DHD, June-July for the Desire S
But I'm not sure how much of the hardware components in say the DHD is close to that of the Desire-Z so time will tell.
I guess the idea is the device would need enough ram to run smoothly with a stock ICS possibly Sense-Style and default launcher/etc without any sd-ext, ram tweaks, etc. Though I'm already running ICS on my G2 right now, just lacking a smoother camera functionality (in comparison to when on gingerbread), but can shoot pictures and record videos just fine (Can't think of anything else I'm missing exactly).
Jellybean, probably a long way off.
I disagree. By the time the JB source is out, the 3.0 kernel will be even better and a complete replacement for the 2.6 one we're using now. CM will update to 10 and so will the respective ICS roms we have right now.
The only obstacles would be ones related to project butter, but we need the source first in order to really tell.
I would expect beta quality JB roms by August, assuming the JB source is released in the next few weeks.
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We’ve heard your feedback on our decision not to update the HTC Desire HD to Android 4.0. We completely understand that this is a controversial decision.
For more background, due to how storage on the HTC Desire HD is partitioned – and the larger size of Android 4.0 – it would require re-partitioning device storage and overwriting user data in order to install this update. While technically advanced users might find this solution acceptable, the majority of customers would not. We also considered ways to reduce the overall size of the software package, but this would impact features and functionality that customers are currently using. Even after installing the update, there were other technical limitations which we felt negatively impacted the user experience.
We believe an update should always improve the user experience and carefully evaluate each update based on this criteria. While we are very aware of the disappointment from this decision, we believe the impact to user experience was too great. We recognize this is a change from our previous statement and for that we’re truly sorry.
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Link.
So I see DHD forums are moar or less in the same state these forums were a year ago.
We have petitions, we probably have nerds who ain't buyin another HTC phone evar. DHD never got official ICS update, as Desire never got GB. I'll give them that
As usual, I'm with the big bad company on this.
EDIT: gawd dang, I just saw what I did here - another useless ICS thread >.>
You spammer...
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So now it's possible to have full working ics for desire? I hope porting it will be not too difficult because desire and dhd are similar, they only differ for a HD after desire!
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erklat said:
Link.
So I see DHD forums are moar or less in the same state these forums were a year ago.
We have petitions, we probably have nerds who ain't buyin another HTC phone evar. DHD never got official ICS update, as Desire never got GB. I'll give them that
As usual, I'm with the big bad company on this.
EDIT: gawd dang, I just saw what I did here - another useless ICS thread >.>
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Yup, totally agreed.
Standard users would never understand a full wipe due to repartioning. The other issue is the battery, to small...period. When HTC said "other technical limitations" I'm sure this was one. Sure, XDA got ics onto the HD, congrats, bet we hear noob complaints about battery, lag, etc.
The one thing they ****could**** do is the same they did for us, a stripped down ics ROM with "reduced functionality" released on HTC dev. That should placate the power users, the rest.....will not even notice.
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If HTC gives in, then yes there will probably a developer edition of ICS for DHD. But how many DHD users are there now compared to Desire users last year when we were in the same situation? Is their number enough to make HTC reconsider?
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So now it's possible to have full working ics for desire? I hope porting it will be not too difficult because desire and dhd are similar, they only differ for a HD after desire!
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Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Standard users would never understand a full wipe due to repartioning.
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^
Furthermore all potential issues that could arise from such procedure, I wouldn't want to be in shoes of the customer support when that happens. One has to know demographic structure behind those petitions and rage most easily explained if we draw a simple analogy to this board - out of 500 people say who frequent this board 50 people use either sense or aosp variant of something made for Desire and 450 use something else and are willing to argue whether it works 70% or 73%. Neither is 100.
I hope HTC got their grip together with making phones with 500 or 768 mb roms and promising software updates for any period of time while they oversaw the rate those updates are going to grow in size.
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erklat said:
Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Furthermore all potential issues that could arise from such procedure, I wouldn't want to be in shoes of the customer support when that happens. One has to know demographic structure behind those petitions and rage most easily explained if we draw a simple analogy to this board - out of 500 people say who frequent this board 50 people use either sense or aosp variant of something made for Desire and 450 use something else and are willing to argue whether it works 70% or 73%. Neither is 100.
I hope HTC got their grip together with making phones with 500 or 768 mb roms and promising software updates for any period of time while they oversaw the rate those updates are going to grow in size.
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Agreed again,
HTC always designs things a bit close for confort, or to put it in a pocketnow writers words "they always design their phones with at least one fatal flaw.".
I believe things are getting better though, for example the sensation had almost 2gb reserved for the various system partions, the entire one series has close to 4gb (couldn't be bothered to look up the actual partions...irrevelvant anyways). Some noobs on the One V forum were complaining about the partion sizes as close to 2gb are literally unused at this time. To me, that means room for future updates (though with only 512mb of ram.....how good? Hence the one tragic flaw arguement).
I messed with sense 2.1, 3.0, 2.1 / 3.0 hybrids, 3.5, etc but since May I am back to gb with sense 1.9. The only combo that really works on our desires.
I wish the current devs well, new things are always fun, but if you want a truelly functioning daily driver running the best our hardware is capable of, that is gingerbread with old sense, or aosp........period.
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jmitr said:
I messed with sense 2.1, 3.0, 2.1 / 3.0 hybrids, 3.5, etc but since May I am back to gb with sense 1.9. The only combo that really works on our desires.
I wish the current devs well, new things are always fun, but if you want a truelly functioning daily driver running the best our hardware is capable of, that is gingerbread with old sense, or aosp........period.
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Hear hear, opinion I always advocated. I doubt you'd have much success getting it to the puny minds in an ics related hysteria these days.
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erklat said:
Desire HD has adreno 205. When we had ports based on GB we still had drivers, now no matter what we won't get them so project butter, hw acceleration and the rest of the drool material will most likely remain in dreams of those who wish to use Desire for next 10-15yrs.
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Erklat you delude me, I was sarcastic
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Ha ha...I think HTC just copied the message from the announcement regarding the Desire and pasted it into the DHD one.
paolo-red1 said:
Erklat you delude me, I was sarcastic
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I have repented and am back on the path of righteousness.
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I have repented and am back on the path of righteousness.
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...as long as I have enough sarcastic and ironic toughts about funny people here on forum...
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