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Best Way To Handle Email

Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?

ackerchez said:
Hi Everyone,
There has been a lot of discussion about the best way to use email on a smartphone like the Tytn. Does everyone use the IMAP protocal for best results?
Personally, I get A LOT of mail for work and I would love to find a way to get the mail I want but not have to deal with junk mail and other emails that are automated on our side workwise.
Any suggestions?
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is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?

walshieau said:
is your work email PUSH email? or just pop3?
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Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.

ackerchez said:
Hey walshieau, Thanks for getting back to me. My email is a simple pop3 account.
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if the email server supports IMAP then use it....

Or to get full functionality, rent an exchange server mailbox from someone like 4smartphone (for about US$50 per annum) and get push email etc.

IMAP generates a lot more traffic than POP3. Just fetching a single
mailheader (send/receive when there is 1 new mail) yields over 10 kB more
traffic in IMAP. As my one subscription is limited to 10 MB/month, thus
using POP3 makes much more sense (speed could also be an argument,
altought even in GPRS it doesn't differ that much). Conseqently, I have
different entries for the same mailbox (currently: 3 IMAP, 1 POP3).... but
this also has to do with my question:
How do you guys work with different outgoing mailservers?
I have duplicated my mail account 4 times: once for each outgoing
mailserver I want to use. I then just make sure I have selected the
correct mailbox prior to starting a new message. But this hardly is an
elegant solution (I have to fetch mails for all of the accounts to keep
them up to date). As the different mailservers have no log in, I cannot
use them when not accessing via that particular provider. I have been
looking at some mechanism to hack the hosts file, but the tool
"pockethosts" isn't very well suited for this purpose (and haven't found
anything else).
Jörg

email
Hi, I'm currently using 3 email addresses on my phone plus the sync with my pc.(and home pc)
All I've come up with so far is to set all email pop/imap to only download headers, (and 2 of them only set for the last 3 days only),then I need to "select" manually what email I want to read and download them, the rest I leave for outlook to look after on my PC.
At the end of the day I finish up with a lot of "unread" emails on my phone, BUT once sync'd with pc they are all copied across anyway, just in my "outlook" folders, not my phone email accounts, if all that makes sense.
Any replies of forwards on my phone from any email includes my signature "email" that I prefer to use.
ie seperate work, personal etc
cheers
fadge

Server side filtering may be the answer for you.
http://www.modernnomads.info/wiki/index.php?page=Server+side+e-mail+filtering

gmail
I went to Gmail. Now it front-ends 4 different POP3 accounts, and with the spam protection it has it saves me from deleting a lot of crap. Only downside is that although I can read all my email on my Hermes, I can't really manage my Gmail account the way I want from the native mail client on the Hermes. No worries, I can always use the Mobile Gmail java app or go through IE to the mobile Gmail website. It's working for me...ymmv.

Creating Email sub folders

I have a Tmobile Dash runniing WM6.1.
I use Gmail and have it correctly set up on my phone.
I would like to create another email folder, like stuff to keep or something like that but when I go to the manage folders page, I can not do anything. No create new folder or anything.
Does anyone know how I can create another email folder for my pop gmail account on my phone?
Thanks,
jeff

innovator8 said:
I have a Tmobile Dash runniing WM6.1.
I use Gmail and have it correctly set up on my phone.
I would like to create another email folder, like stuff to keep or something like that but when I go to the manage folders page, I can not do anything. No create new folder or anything.
Does anyone know how I can create another email folder for my pop gmail account on my phone?
Thanks,
jeff
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yer talking about how in outlook or thunderbird on a pc you can create all kinds of subfolders specifically for this persons or that persons or this companies or that companies received email?
i dont know how to do it on wm6.1 email but i never tried either. ill look into it
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i have a question that i need help with too concerning gmail.
i set up the gmail account and i receive gmails just find and send just fine.
the problem is when i delete emails in my received box (and i have the DELETE OFF SERVER option checked under the WHEN DELETING EMAILS option in settings), well they DO NOT delete off the server. its so annoying. HELP!

I just want to be able to create a new folder so when I want to keep an email on my phone, from my gmail account, I can just put it there, and it wont fall off when I download the next three days messages.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Jeff

Go to messaging and under your e-mail you setup go to 'tools' and then 'options' and 'Account settings'. Instead of downloading the last 3 days, set it to "keep all." Now your phone and outlook will be synced completely

RedBlaze said:
Go to messaging and under your e-mail you setup go to 'tools' and then 'options' and 'Account settings'. Instead of downloading the last 3 days, set it to "keep all." Now your phone and outlook will be synced completely
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oh ok i get the question now. thatd be keeping ahelluvalot of email if i did that lol
any ideas on why my gmail settings on the dash don't actually work with the gmail server?

renegadedj said:
oh ok i get the question now. thatd be keeping ahelluvalot of email if i did that lol
any ideas on why my gmail settings on the dash don't actually work with the gmail server?
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can anyone with a gmail account on their phone actually delete emails on the phone, and they will delete off the server if you have the setting checkeD??

renegadedj said:
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can anyone with a gmail account on their phone actually delete emails on the phone, and they will delete off the server if you have the setting checkeD??
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Yes, it will
If you set the time to manual...the emails will be deleted after your next manual check.
If you have it set to every 15, after the 15 minutes is when they get deleted/

Mikey1022 said:
Yes, it will
If you set the time to manual...the emails will be deleted after your next manual check.
If you have it set to every 15, after the 15 minutes is when they get deleted/
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i've tested that. i've deleted on my phone, went to the delete folder, and deleted, then sent received again and tehy didnt come up on the phone, but no change when i login on my pc and check gmail.com my account. "deleted" gmail itemson my phone are always still in my gmail account on gmail.com

Help: Can't get my googlemail account to push mail to my htc touch hd

I've added the account but email only downloads when i click on send and receive,
the enable microsoft direct push is on but it doesnt seem to have any effect.
any ideas?

gmail won't push to these devices using that method.
you gotta try seven.com or other alternatives...a search will turn up a lot more information, but seven is a push alternative that works

Got it working in the end.
Solution was fairly easy after all.
Thanks

how did you get it working? as far as i knew gmail doesn't offer a push service..?

Bit of lateral thinking in the end
I found out that Windows Mobile 6 supports Hotmail push email for free without any added software. It's built in to the operating system.
I simply set my Gmail account to auto forward all email to my hotmail account. It's an option within the settings.
Voila free gmail and hotmail pushed to my phone without any 3rd party software.

Well done.
I use SEVEN and it's a wonderful piece of software, best of all it's FREE and uses the in-built mail application on your phone. So it runs in the background and then the windows mail does the rest.

O and O said:
Well done.
I use SEVEN and it's a wonderful piece of software, best of all it's FREE and uses the in-built mail application on your phone. So it runs in the background and then the windows mail does the rest.
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presently i'm also using seven to push my mail since mail2web started charging for its push services.i have only one problem with seven.i don't get any alert when i have new mail?do u? my notification for new email is one but nothing happens.hummm...

my only issue (and its only a minor one) with seven is that the message text preview normally shown on the mail envelope icon is no longer there - all it says is 'click to view message'.
Is there any fix for this?

binning said:
Bit of lateral thinking in the end
I found out that Windows Mobile 6 supports Hotmail push email for free without any added software. It's built in to the operating system.
I simply set my Gmail account to auto forward all email to my hotmail account. It's an option within the settings.
Voila free gmail and hotmail pushed to my phone without any 3rd party software.
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How do you manage to reply when you receive mail from gmail in hotmail inbox?
Thanks and regards.

nhuda said:
How do you manage to reply when you receive mail from gmail in hotmail inbox?
Thanks and regards.
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i wished i found this thread earlier, so i didnt have to create one!
but i thought about doing what binning did, but its not a real solution, you can reply but your going to be replying with your hotmail account rather than your gmail account but you get all the messages
google did release sync, but right now its only calendar and contacts from what i know of, as of an actual email sync, i heard rumors theyre working on it, but lets hope they release it soon.
but another thought is, the only thing thats missing right now is the gmail push server. blackberry bypassed this by using their own BES but only restricted to BBs obviously.
lets keep our fingers crossed and hope that google will release a gmail sync!!!! =]
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im also curious but havent had time to look into it, a couple of friends of mine have the g1, the g1 supports gmail push, but how can we wm users get this to work on OWA!! if g1 supports gmail push shouldnt it be possible for us? i mean like a standalone push service rather than having to forward or use a separate server like the BES?

is seven.com free? When I try to download it, it takes me to my country operator. The link then takes me to my country's website which charges me 15$ per month to use it? I already have a 5GB data plan, why am I going to be charged 15$ to use seven.com?

CorruptedSanity said:
is seven.com free? When I try to download it, it takes me to my country operator. The link then takes me to my country's website which charges me 15$ per month to use it? I already have a 5GB data plan, why am I going to be charged 15$ to use seven.com?
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Look for the Beta program instead. That's where you'll find the free software download.

Thanks furrypotato(good nick). I figured it out.
Is it reliable? I noticed that sometimes ill get the email directly (testing by sending email from another account via PC). and sometimes I wont.
Also, the internet remains connected right?

hotmail push
how does one enable push hotmail? I created a live.com account but I can't find anything in the settings for push mail.

cxkx said:
how does one enable push hotmail? I created a live.com account but I can't find anything in the settings for push mail.
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Goto Windows live and click Options-> Sync Schedule and change 'Sync Frequnecy' to 'As items arrive'. DONE! You have push hotmail now.
Cheers

nhuda said:
Goto Windows live and click Options-> Sync Schedule and change 'Sync Frequnecy' to 'As items arrive'. DONE! You have push hotmail now.
Cheers
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windows live on my blackstone or the pc? what about the exchange server, do i have to configure that?

cxkx said:
windows live on my blackstone or the pc? what about the exchange server, do i have to configure that?
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Blackstone (WM6.xx) ofcourse! No need to configure exchange server.
I hope it helps. Good luck.

nhuda said:
Blackstone (WM6.xx) ofcourse! No need to configure exchange server.
I hope it helps. Good luck.
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Thanks , I just did, now I have to figure out how to answer with my google account.

cxkx said:
Thanks , I just did, now I have to figure out how to answer with my google account.
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If you find a way let me know. I have been looking for this option as well.

Another question, when you soft reset do u have to restart the windows live app or does it start by itself?

application to setup hotmail as push mail

i successfully set up my hotmail in my X1, set the sync frequency to As Items Arrive, intending to activate push mail.
but now everytime i have new mail, i am not notified at all, not even showing of the numbers of new mails in the Today Screen.
i still need to manually go Menu > Send/Receive to update my mailbox.
any1 got solution or what application i need install?
thanks

yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.

ohhh pls tell me how to fwd mails
in aol /hotmail pls

Syncing frequency to As Items Arrive works perfectly for me.

I confirm that both hotmail and gmail works as a push mail on my XPERIA.
For hotmail, you can just use windows live connection setup and choose/set "as items arrive" and set the time as "always". For gmail, you can use the activesync feature on outlook mobile as have been told by deezy7 above.
Or else, you can use the feature from Emoze service.

hi all.
thanks for ur advices.
i did add my hotmail using the Windows Live program, did set to "as items arrive" and did set for "always"
but nothing ever appear in my pjone for new mail unless i do it manually using "send/receive"
i prefer to use my hotmail acc ley.
any1 pls help mi.
thanks

deezy7 said:
yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.
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I just set this up and it works Thank u for an explanation
But I have a question. Now only one of my mail accounts deliver mail. Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?

icbicb said:
Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?
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If you would like to have a free account for push mail service you should try Emoze. I have been playing with Emoze and honestly it helps me much to get my XPERIA have numerous mail account which works as a push mail ....

Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...

As an alternative to Emoze i use Seven Beta. It provides near realtime push on most types of account.

icbicb said:
Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...
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Hey icbicb, in response to your other question as well, my suggestion would have been to do what you already did, which is create another gmail acccount I also prefer not to use any other online services, and was very happy when Google came out with Gmail Sync, since I've already been using my gmail account for five years, and don't have to give out sensitive information to yet another company
To those here using other services, I'd suggest you give Gmail Sync a try. Deedee, I noticed you said that Seven Beta provides you with near realtime push. I've noticed with Gmail Sync, and having my Gmail open at the same time on my pc at work, that Gmail Sync pushes in actual realtime! I'll hear the notification on my phone first before my page refreshes to show me my new e-mail! Also, I should mention that I am using gmail plug-ins to autoupdate the screen when new e-mails come in, and the Gmail sync sends them to my phone simultaneously or even before my page refreshes, thus, I know that it is actual real-time. Just like blackberry's service! I'm in love with it right now
icbicb, I'm glad it's working out for you , loyjwe I hope you are able to give this a try...

it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)

Big advantage of Seven Beta is that it works for almost all POP3/IMAP email systems and it keeps all the accounts separate so that replies from your PPC keep the correct return address.
I have it working on Gmail x 2, Hotmail and a POP3 account and all four accounts are independant of each other.
I said near real time sync as i didn't want to claim real time in case it wasn't. I rarely use the web interface since starting Seven so haven't been in a position to check. As i tell the BB users at work if you have time to compare the two delivery times then maybe you don't need a BB.

titeloo said:
it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)
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Hi titeloo...bad english is okay lol, but, I don't really understand what you mean by "they will be of the hotmail box..." need further explanation!!
@Deedee, gmail does that also....so... for example, when you get mail forwarded to your gmail account, if it was originally sent to your hotmail account, when you reply on the phone, it will reply from the hotmail account. Gmail's set up pretty good that way. I believe right now though they have a limit on the number of accounts you can send mail from, not sure if it is 3 or 4. So it's pretty neat that Seven Beta keeps all accounts separate ...btw very nice avatar

Seven is only restricted by the number of accounts that can be set up in WM, think it's 8 in total, that includes your ActiveSync/Exchange and SMS accounts.
Thanks for the compliment. Always prefer to use real piccies for avatars where practical.

BUG? HTC Mail delete emails on Server

Hi
I`ve a big problem with HTC-Mail.
I have HTC-Mail configured as follows:
- POP3
- T-Mobile.de settings
- "Delete Mail on Server" = no
HTC-mail delete emails on the server.The option "Delete Mails on Server" is not select. If I will empty the trash then the emails deleted on the server!
The same effect when the option is select. The same effect when the option is selected.
I`ve the problem with Stock- and Custom-ROM (Modaco, Pay`s)
Does anyone have the same problem?
Can anyone help me?
Sorry for my bad english!
Johnny

The problem must be just with pop. IMAP does not seem to suffer from this issue.

I've got pop setup and that doesn't delete mail.

Is there no solution to the problem of pop3?
I need pop not imap

PrinzEisenherz1 said:
Is there no solution to the problem of pop3?
I need pop not imap
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The solution is probably to choose another mail client. I've often heard K9 mail recommended, but since I use Gmail I've not bothered to take a look.
I suspect that the issue you are having with your device is that the "Delete Mails on Server" option is really referring to what the app should do after it has downloaded new emails - not to what you subsequently do with the email.
Regards,
Dave

Afaik, pop has a option to keep mails on server. Imap will keep them there anyways. You should have no probs with that option set.
Edit. Will check when i get home. I could ofc be wrong
Ok:
My settings:
Gmail: pop3/imap forwarding:
Pop download: Keep Gmail's copy in inbox
On the desire the same as yours. It hasn't deleted a single mail since i got my desire.
I think if it's a problem it's a problem with gmail, since i doubt the phone can tell the server what to do.
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I have the same problem with HTC's e-mail application.
I am using pop3 and havn't checked the option to delete mail on server but it still does it. Really annoying.

It's almost certainly a problem with the HTC mail app. I have the same issue with a POP account that I have; doesn't seem to make a difference whether the '..mail on server' is on or off.
It also re-downloads emails continously unless they have been deleted from another source (web client or Outlook).
K9 seems to ok but stills needing polishing up. It does have many options that that built in one doesnt' marking emails being one.

Me having this problem with POP too. So I switched to IMAP

I do not have these problems, but if t-mobile does not support IMAP (which is imho better than POP3), try K-9 Mail:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en

Just saw this thread - on my Incredible with stock Froyo the HTC email application uses POP3 with my email server and has an option in Settings for "Delete emails on server" unchecked most times.
I say most times because it will, at seemingly random times, re-check that option and delete mail directly from the server that I've just viewed and deleted through the phone UI. This option has seemingly self-flipped a few times since I've had Froyo and seems to be a bug.
- ooofest

Pff. Check your settings
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

dutchcow94 said:
Pff. Check your settings
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Pff. Check my post - the settings change automagically at random times.
- ooofest