Sorry if its a stupid question me and a few friends have just been wondering ?
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I don't understand it question
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HTC has announced "beats" technology in their new phones that supposedly offer better audio quality when plugging in Beats headphones.
Pretty much a publicity stunt.
I think it's hardware related... chance for desire HD... but i don't think we Vision can have Beats working
What's the difference between htc dezire and g2 I thought they were the same thing and what I was asking to your question is can we get htc beats on cyanogen mod . Basicly can it be converted to an apk like a normal application would and would it run on my g2 properly running cyanogen mod nightlies
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Its on virtuous unity. Its nothing more than eg preset though
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Exactly what spastic said... you can get it for AOSP (CM7/MIUI) roms with volume+ app. But, as he said, its just an equalizer. It does make an inprovement, imo.
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What's the difference between htc dezire and g2 I thought they were the same thing and what I was asking to your question is can we get htc beats on cyanogen mod . Basicly can it be converted to an apk like a normal application would and would it run on my g2 properly running cyanogen mod nightlies
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Desire HD is capable of play Dolby and SRS while Vision is not... ROM like Virtuous Unity can make Dolby working for Vision but SRS still not work. That makes me think of the differences in hardware between these 2 devices
I've used some previous Sense 3.5 ROM that has Beats but not working or force close on activation
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Exactly what spastic said... you can get it for AOSP (CM7/MIUI) roms with volume+ app. But, as he said, its just an equalizer. It does make an inprovement, imo.
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Any flashable zips? Link to the app? Lol i'm running aosp and i'm interested cuz the lack of an equalizer sucks
It's probably useless, actually; I found something weeks ago demo'ing how the Beats software works on laptops. It actually completely kills your bass and treble when it's off and then makes things sound magically better when it's on, because you're comparing it to garbage. I would assume that's how the phone software works too. You'd be better off just using the DSPManager that's included with CM7 and setting the EQ how you like.
However, I know the laptops get a better audio processor, and I'm sure those one or two new phones have also has better audio processing hardware, which we obviously cannot duplicate.
its not possible on cyanogen, but it works on siulmagics sense 3.0 port. ill upload it tonight maybe. and YES SRS and DOLBY also work. beats makes a huge impact for me tbh.
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It's probably useless, actually; I found something weeks ago demo'ing how the Beats software works on laptops. It actually completely kills your bass and treble when it's off and then makes things sound magically better when it's on, because you're comparing it to garbage. I would assume that's how the phone software works too. You'd be better off just using the DSPManager that's included with CM7 and setting the EQ how you like.
However, I know the laptops get a better audio processor, and I'm sure those one or two new phones have also has better audio processing hardware, which we obviously cannot duplicate.
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Sir, can you suggest a great DSP manager settings for Headphones?
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Sir, can you suggest a great DSP manager settings for Headphones?
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Yup! It's pretty easy to do. Open DSP Manager, enable Dynamic Range Compression (I recommend Moderate strength). Enable Bass boost, select the strength you think suits best. Enable equalizer, and the preset closest to beats is Rock, but as each set of headphones or earphones is different, you may wish to tweak the EQ manually too - it's simple enough. If sound is too bassy, reduce the first two points, if too much treble, the 4th and 5th points. You'll get used to the feel of it after a short while playing about.
There's no perfect EQ that suits every type of music or every set of headphones. The best thing to do is play around with it until you get a sound you really like. Presets are a good place to start, though.
Wasn't there a beats_allandroid.zip somewhere? A flashable beats library that boosts the sound quality a little? I remember flashing that onto my Milestone, which screwed the original motorola sound enhancers, but it worked perfectly with DSP manager on HTC Desire Z, and the audio was better. These were still just libraries, not an APP, DSP manager still worked better IMO. I don't know about beats headphones though, I got a higher mid-end AKG phones - plays great.
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I searched all over the forum for anyone who know how to install Dolby Mobile on the Droid Incredible. I have listened to sample of the sound difference and it is extremely better with Dolby.
Anyone know how to get Dolby Mobile for the Incredible.
Is this what the hd rom by id has? I wonder...
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The HTC Desire has Dolby Mobile. Someone has to be able to build it in a ROM.
yeah, I'm just wondering if it hasn't already been done. People are going on and on about the improved speaker and headpiece volumes on the HD Sense ROM by IncredibleDoes. Maybe it's the Dolby portion that is doing that. If so, then your question is answered. Maybe you should check out that ROM and see what you think. I haven't tried it yet.
I did see that ROM, however I don't know if it has Dolby Mobile or not. But i am a little skeptical to use it because the cam and video does not work yet.
Is this the DSP Manager in Uncommon Sense?
I'm running the Uncommon Sense ROM and it has a DSP Manager app that lets me adjust sound profiles for Bluetooth, Speaker and Handset. It has an EQ, the ability to turn on and off dynamic compression, and select a room type. I don't see any Dolby references in it, but it does make the sound better.
Cool, i will try that ROM. Does the cam and video work in the ROM you are using?
Camera and video work well.
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Cool, i will try that ROM. Does the cam and video work in the ROM you are using?
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Yep. You can even choose whether to use the Incredible camera or the Evo camera.
i was looking at the Uncommon ROM and it looks pretty basic.
Any bugs that you know of.
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yeah, I'm just wondering if it hasn't already been done. People are going on and on about the improved speaker and headpiece volumes on the HD Sense ROM by IncredibleDoes. Maybe it's the Dolby portion that is doing that. If so, then your question is answered. Maybe you should check out that ROM and see what you think. I haven't tried it yet.
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Yeah, I've noticed that. The Cam issue keeps me away from it, though. I'm content with Virtuous with the IncREDible Theme. I've got DSP manager too and it helps A LOT. The bluetooth EQ is janked, though.
Still I'm curious about the Dolby aspect. I've tried to figure out what it really adds besides better bass response. That mixed with DSP Manager might be a hit. Now if only they could get Pro Logic II decoding!
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i was looking at the Uncommon ROM and it looks pretty basic.
Any bugs that you know of.
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I am running Uncommon1.1 and I do not have any bugs or issues. This is a very good rom.
HELLO devs and noobs like me,this a mod which i extracted from the desires z forum,I extracted it because i wanted my fellow sense 3.0 user who want to feel beats audio.This addon adds BEATS AUDIO! AND SRS AND DOLBY AUDIO! Also, RCMix tweaks, which includes turning CRT on and off on the fly, WITHOUT THE ORANGE LED BUG!!! this also comes with a blue theme.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TZJ8SVJF
PURE BEATS, WITHOUT THE BLUE THEME, OR RCMIX ADDON: http://db.tt/fOiUPsMg
enjoy massive thanks to!!!!: sigurd_LU and lyapota
THEMED VERSION: CONFIRMED WORKING ON: Sense 3 DHD WVGA Native by Siulmagic
CONFIRMED *NOT*WORKING ON: Virtuous Sense 2.0.0, BEATMOD BLISSENSE
NON THEMED VERSION: CONFIRMED WORKING ON: SENSE 3 DHD WVGA Native by Siulmagic Not working on all roms but try it if you are brave
Hey, thx for this but the link leading to the Beats only files is dead. Could you re-upload it please? Thanks!
I'm still not sure on the benefits of BEATS but I do have poor hearing anyway
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PURE BEATS, WITHOUT THE BLUE THEME, OR RCMIX ADDON: http://db.tt/fOiUPsMg
enjoy massive thanks to!!!!: sigurd_LU and lyapota
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Link is not avalaible
Lothaen said:
I'm still not sure on the benefits of BEATS but I do have poor hearing anyway
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Just want to hear for myself what it's like, that's all. I've heard multiple people say that DSPmanager is way better.
Most workload speaker quickly fails will wheeze.
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Just want to hear for myself what it's like, that's all. I've heard multiple people say that DSPmanager is way better.
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it basically eq's your audio to sound like sony megabass from the old sony walkman era
its crap dsp manager is good
poweramp is where its at though
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it basically eq's your audio to sound like sony megabass from the old sony walkman era
its crap dsp manager is good
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With earphones DPS Manager seems better, but I find Beats to be better when using my phone via aux to listen to music in my car.
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With earphones DPS Manager seems better, but I find Beats to be better when using my phone via aux to listen to music in my car.
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thats because youve tweeked the sound to compliment your headphones where as beats is more generic.
just read what you said... an app doesnt care what you are plugging into it so the reason you are hearing a difference is because of your hardware and nothing to do with beats
you could configure dsp manager to sound better in your car however i no longer use dsp as the eq and preamp in poweramp is far superior
you could create an eq profile for your headphones and an eq profile for your car and then you dont have to turn anything off , just switch profile
poweramp is awesome, yes it costs money but its utterly worth it if you are a fan of good sounding music (the sound reproduction is the best ive heard on my desire with sennheisers )
beats lowers midrange on eq and hightens bass and treble, exactly like megabass. its no magic trick
Hi there,
I have just been doing some reading/research and have just found out that people believe the HOX's beats enhancer sucks?
I thought the sound quality was epic?
But people suggested getting an equalizer such as:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5zbWFydGFuZHJvaWRhcHBzLmVxdWFsaXplciJd
My questions are:
Does the Equaliser get rid of the beats enhancement?
Is setting an Equaliser up properly going to make music better than using the Beats?
THANKS !!!
Beats headphones are mediocre and overpriced.
Beats sound "enhancer" is a bass-heavy equaliser.
Other equalisers are configurable and work instead of the beats one, but don't get rid of it, it can still be switched on if that's what you want.
It would seem that some peoples ears or brain-wiring is broken, although what one would like to hear is quite subjective.
it depends on the app, but for me all i have tried don't override Beats, and end up like rubbish.
I didn't see any equalizer have better bass/treble than Beats, so far.
Maybe try installing beats equalizer mod (if not stock), that is the best customization option IMO.
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it depends on the app, but for me all i have tried don't override Beats, and end up like rubbish.
I didn't see any equalizer have better bass/treble than Beats, so far.
Maybe try installing beats equalizer mod (if not stock), that is the best customization option IMO.
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Cheers mate
Problem is I haven't touched my HOX so completely stock.
So basically, an EQ won't over-ride beats properly?
And could cause it to be worse than usual?
So stick with beats?
Yeah man ....beats are rubbish ...use Esq equalizer ....its very good if you like bass
Ahh! Two different points of view.
Someone saying EQ sucks?
Someone saying Beats Sucks?
Which should I use?
How will I get better audio from my songs, using the in-built beats or downloading an EQ and playing with that?
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Ahh! Two different points of view.
Someone saying EQ sucks?
Someone saying Beats Sucks?
Which should I use?
How will I get better audio from my songs, using the in-built beats or downloading an EQ and playing with that?
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I use beats with dspmanager, link not in Sig as on phone but you can get it from profile.
Beats uses compression makes the music louder at the cost of quality (audio people will hear it, most people will be like oh louder).
And as said is quite bass heavy.
Dspmanager is an eq that comes of cm roms I just put it in a zip edited a few files for sense.
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I use beats with dspmanager, link not in Sig as on phone but you can get it from profile.
Beats uses compression makes the music louder at the cost of quality (audio people will hear it, most people will be like oh louder).
And as said is quite bass heavy.
Dspmanager is an eq that comes of cm roms I just put it in a zip edited a few files for sense.
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Problem is I don't know how EQ's work and I don't know what to do to make sound quality better.
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Problem is I don't know how EQ's work and I don't know what to do to make sound quality better.
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If you install one and dislike it, you can uninstall it right?
I'm sure they come with some presets to give you an idea.
As I'am listening to music a lot, I can't live without proper EQ + some enhancements to fill it up and make it sound how I want it to. On sense ROMS those several beats presets to choose from together with poweramp EQ and stereoX can make this job done, however on AOKP poweramp can't deliver bass at all, you have to use external AMP to get some, but even then the sound is dull and dead.. Of course you can play around with DSP manager, but it somehow just makes music sound fake, EQ works like a noise/dullness knob (lol) and virtualizer literally screws up the music, it's not even close to what poweramp or sense can do.
So, is it possible to port sense sound enhancer to other ROMS? Or maybe there is something similiar integrated in recent other branded ROMS as well?
If you like beats you could find and try one of the flashable beats zips running around.
you mean this called "awesome beats" ?
I'am afraid it's not what I'am looking for as apparently it sounded just like a renamed bass boost in dsp manager and it doesn't look as it would have anything common with HTC one. I'am looking specifically for beats solo or urbeats Sense presets or anything similiar which I haven't tried yet (maybe Xperia's have some kind of app for that?)
I'm using a miui rom and I've set srs_v sound enhancement through the snd3254 command and sound is really great. Have you tried that?
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I've set srs_v sound enhancement through the snd3254 command and sound is really great.
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Can you be more specific?
I use awesome beats v4 with apollo player..I have tried walkman player but somehow it is buggy for me..
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Yes, of course.
Open terminal emulator and type snd3254 -dspmode XX where XX is the number of the sound enhancement you want to apply.
To see the list of possible sound enhancements you can run it with 00.
Another option is to download SndUI app from the market. It's a UI for the snd3254 command.
It shows you the list of available sound enhancements and lets you set one.
EDIT: I get the best sound with srs_v_hp or srs_a_hp dspmodes. hp means headphones.
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SndUI app from the market. It's a UI for the snd3254 command.
It shows you the list of available sound enhancements and lets you set one.
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It's kinda interesting how it works, it surely increases treble and gives bass more headroom to DAC clipping but it comes with the price of V shaped EQ (decreased mids), which I'am afraid isn't exactly what I'am looking for.
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EDIT: I get the best sound with srs_v_hp or srs_a_hp dspmodes. hp means headphones.
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Yea, that writing depends purely on your rom. On blackout it's "playback_v_headset_srs"
PS. It seems there are some nice Equalizers (+enhancements) in play store, do they work on AOSP/MIUI ROMS? I couldn't get them to work on Sense + poweramp.
I only tried Equalizer app from the market. It works ok but the sound wasn't the best. That's my opinion at least.
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I have done much searching on this and have still not found a definitive answer as to what the beats audio that is "built into" the phone and stock ROM do. I have found some explanations that claim it is simply an equalizer profile, but I am very skeptical simply because having toggled it on and off while playing many different musical genres, the sound is always much cleaner and crisper from the speakers with beats enabled, even though the consensus seems to be that beats mostly is only beneficial to those who listen to hip hop. I never listen to hip hop and would love to switch to cyanogenmod rather than stock or the GE port that I am currently using, but I really hate to give up the beats option. Can anybody explain exactly goes on when beats is enabled? Is there a hardware filter/dsp chip, or some kind of alternate amplifier that runs the speakers when it is enabled, that SW access to is lost when using an AOSP ROM? It has to be something more than a simple equalizer, I have tried using many different alternatives in an attempt to recreate the sound that beats gives that would be viable for use with CM, including viper audio, music fx, and Noozxoide. None of these truly replace having beats, and I think the video comparison linked below does a good job of illustrating the difference for anybody who is unsure of the significance of the difference I am talking about.
youtube.com/watch?v=dNnTOafdCos
Beats is a dsp chip. The best replacement I have found is viper4android. To get the full effect of viper you have to change lpa.decode=true in the build prop to =false. Change the ui setting of viper to expert and start playing around. I found that using the eq in combination with the impulse response delivers the best quality.
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Beats is a dsp chip. The best replacement I have found is viper4android. To get the full effect of viper you have to change lpa.decode=true in the build prop to =false. Change the ui setting of viper to expert and start playing around. I found that using the eq in combination with the impulse response delivers the best quality.
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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No aosp can't use beats because the kernel can't use the source yet. People have been working towards adding kernel support for beats on aosp. It may be possible just not currently.
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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While this may be a good starting point the best method is to experiment and find what works best for you. He forces viper audio which is something I never do and doesn't need to be done.
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Also, I have noticed that viper almost never sounds the same between roms, rom versions etc. I pretty much have to tweak the settings a little bit every time. I do use the same basic configuration with the exception of the eq.
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
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agreed, this is the closes thing to sounding like beats on AOSP and the Carnage's profile is the best by far. :good:
give it a try. OP
Basically all it is in my opinion is just a glorified equalizer. If you are listening to music, playing a video, etc. All it really does that I've noticed is make it louder and adds a little more bass. My girlfriend has an aftermarket Pioneer stereo in her car that has built in Bluetooth and listening to music through my HTC one vs her Samsung galaxy s4 I noticed a bit of difference in those between the two phones. That's the best way I know to describe it.
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Basically all it is in my opinion is just a glorified equalizer. If you are listening to music, playing a video, etc. All it really does that I've noticed is make it louder and adds a little more bass. My girlfriend has an aftermarket Pioneer stereo in her car that has built in Bluetooth and listening to music through my HTC one vs her Samsung galaxy s4 I noticed a bit of difference in those between the two phones. That's the best way I know to describe it.
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It is an equalizer, but in reality, instead of relying on software and using cpu power, it it's a built in chip that only works on sense and HTC GPE roms as the technology is closed source.
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