I have done much searching on this and have still not found a definitive answer as to what the beats audio that is "built into" the phone and stock ROM do. I have found some explanations that claim it is simply an equalizer profile, but I am very skeptical simply because having toggled it on and off while playing many different musical genres, the sound is always much cleaner and crisper from the speakers with beats enabled, even though the consensus seems to be that beats mostly is only beneficial to those who listen to hip hop. I never listen to hip hop and would love to switch to cyanogenmod rather than stock or the GE port that I am currently using, but I really hate to give up the beats option. Can anybody explain exactly goes on when beats is enabled? Is there a hardware filter/dsp chip, or some kind of alternate amplifier that runs the speakers when it is enabled, that SW access to is lost when using an AOSP ROM? It has to be something more than a simple equalizer, I have tried using many different alternatives in an attempt to recreate the sound that beats gives that would be viable for use with CM, including viper audio, music fx, and Noozxoide. None of these truly replace having beats, and I think the video comparison linked below does a good job of illustrating the difference for anybody who is unsure of the significance of the difference I am talking about.
youtube.com/watch?v=dNnTOafdCos
Beats is a dsp chip. The best replacement I have found is viper4android. To get the full effect of viper you have to change lpa.decode=true in the build prop to =false. Change the ui setting of viper to expert and start playing around. I found that using the eq in combination with the impulse response delivers the best quality.
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Beats is a dsp chip. The best replacement I have found is viper4android. To get the full effect of viper you have to change lpa.decode=true in the build prop to =false. Change the ui setting of viper to expert and start playing around. I found that using the eq in combination with the impulse response delivers the best quality.
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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No aosp can't use beats because the kernel can't use the source yet. People have been working towards adding kernel support for beats on aosp. It may be possible just not currently.
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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While this may be a good starting point the best method is to experiment and find what works best for you. He forces viper audio which is something I never do and doesn't need to be done.
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Also, I have noticed that viper almost never sounds the same between roms, rom versions etc. I pretty much have to tweak the settings a little bit every time. I do use the same basic configuration with the exception of the eq.
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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agreed, this is the closes thing to sounding like beats on AOSP and the Carnage's profile is the best by far. :good:
give it a try. OP
Basically all it is in my opinion is just a glorified equalizer. If you are listening to music, playing a video, etc. All it really does that I've noticed is make it louder and adds a little more bass. My girlfriend has an aftermarket Pioneer stereo in her car that has built in Bluetooth and listening to music through my HTC one vs her Samsung galaxy s4 I noticed a bit of difference in those between the two phones. That's the best way I know to describe it.
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Basically all it is in my opinion is just a glorified equalizer. If you are listening to music, playing a video, etc. All it really does that I've noticed is make it louder and adds a little more bass. My girlfriend has an aftermarket Pioneer stereo in her car that has built in Bluetooth and listening to music through my HTC one vs her Samsung galaxy s4 I noticed a bit of difference in those between the two phones. That's the best way I know to describe it.
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It is an equalizer, but in reality, instead of relying on software and using cpu power, it it's a built in chip that only works on sense and HTC GPE roms as the technology is closed source.
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Sorry if its a stupid question me and a few friends have just been wondering ?
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I don't understand it question
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HTC has announced "beats" technology in their new phones that supposedly offer better audio quality when plugging in Beats headphones.
Pretty much a publicity stunt.
I think it's hardware related... chance for desire HD... but i don't think we Vision can have Beats working
What's the difference between htc dezire and g2 I thought they were the same thing and what I was asking to your question is can we get htc beats on cyanogen mod . Basicly can it be converted to an apk like a normal application would and would it run on my g2 properly running cyanogen mod nightlies
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Its on virtuous unity. Its nothing more than eg preset though
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Exactly what spastic said... you can get it for AOSP (CM7/MIUI) roms with volume+ app. But, as he said, its just an equalizer. It does make an inprovement, imo.
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What's the difference between htc dezire and g2 I thought they were the same thing and what I was asking to your question is can we get htc beats on cyanogen mod . Basicly can it be converted to an apk like a normal application would and would it run on my g2 properly running cyanogen mod nightlies
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Desire HD is capable of play Dolby and SRS while Vision is not... ROM like Virtuous Unity can make Dolby working for Vision but SRS still not work. That makes me think of the differences in hardware between these 2 devices
I've used some previous Sense 3.5 ROM that has Beats but not working or force close on activation
sino8r said:
Exactly what spastic said... you can get it for AOSP (CM7/MIUI) roms with volume+ app. But, as he said, its just an equalizer. It does make an inprovement, imo.
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Any flashable zips? Link to the app? Lol i'm running aosp and i'm interested cuz the lack of an equalizer sucks
It's probably useless, actually; I found something weeks ago demo'ing how the Beats software works on laptops. It actually completely kills your bass and treble when it's off and then makes things sound magically better when it's on, because you're comparing it to garbage. I would assume that's how the phone software works too. You'd be better off just using the DSPManager that's included with CM7 and setting the EQ how you like.
However, I know the laptops get a better audio processor, and I'm sure those one or two new phones have also has better audio processing hardware, which we obviously cannot duplicate.
its not possible on cyanogen, but it works on siulmagics sense 3.0 port. ill upload it tonight maybe. and YES SRS and DOLBY also work. beats makes a huge impact for me tbh.
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It's probably useless, actually; I found something weeks ago demo'ing how the Beats software works on laptops. It actually completely kills your bass and treble when it's off and then makes things sound magically better when it's on, because you're comparing it to garbage. I would assume that's how the phone software works too. You'd be better off just using the DSPManager that's included with CM7 and setting the EQ how you like.
However, I know the laptops get a better audio processor, and I'm sure those one or two new phones have also has better audio processing hardware, which we obviously cannot duplicate.
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Sir, can you suggest a great DSP manager settings for Headphones?
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Sir, can you suggest a great DSP manager settings for Headphones?
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Yup! It's pretty easy to do. Open DSP Manager, enable Dynamic Range Compression (I recommend Moderate strength). Enable Bass boost, select the strength you think suits best. Enable equalizer, and the preset closest to beats is Rock, but as each set of headphones or earphones is different, you may wish to tweak the EQ manually too - it's simple enough. If sound is too bassy, reduce the first two points, if too much treble, the 4th and 5th points. You'll get used to the feel of it after a short while playing about.
There's no perfect EQ that suits every type of music or every set of headphones. The best thing to do is play around with it until you get a sound you really like. Presets are a good place to start, though.
Wasn't there a beats_allandroid.zip somewhere? A flashable beats library that boosts the sound quality a little? I remember flashing that onto my Milestone, which screwed the original motorola sound enhancers, but it worked perfectly with DSP manager on HTC Desire Z, and the audio was better. These were still just libraries, not an APP, DSP manager still worked better IMO. I don't know about beats headphones though, I got a higher mid-end AKG phones - plays great.
Hey all. I came from the photon 4g. I am looking for an app to boost volume when I play music. Any ideas as to what I can use? Thanks.
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Hey all. I came from the photon 4g. I am looking for an app to boost volume when I play music. Any ideas as to what I can use? Thanks.
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I personally like using Volume +. Has worked great for me on every ROM but CM10. didn't seem to make a difference on it :silly:
I have noticed on alot of threads that alot of people like PowerAmp. I myself have never tried it. The is also Awesome beats. Its like Beats audio. Search for it. I would post a link but Im kinda short of time to find it myself. Good luck sir.
PowerAmp is just a music player with a nice built in equalizer, but because it is an EQ, and does not affect tye actual oower output of the hardware, it will eventually cause distortion. I use PA, but I keep the EQ in check and do not use it to make it louder.
Volume+ has always been a terrible thing for me, causing audio skipping and distortion.
Beats is an EQ, and I think it sounds like garbage.
What we need is something like Voodoo sound, like we had on the Epic4G. It is a kernel modification that works at the hardware level to increase power output.
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Have you tried speaker boost into he play store? I use it and it makes the sound louder!
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Hi there,
I have just been doing some reading/research and have just found out that people believe the HOX's beats enhancer sucks?
I thought the sound quality was epic?
But people suggested getting an equalizer such as:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5zbWFydGFuZHJvaWRhcHBzLmVxdWFsaXplciJd
My questions are:
Does the Equaliser get rid of the beats enhancement?
Is setting an Equaliser up properly going to make music better than using the Beats?
THANKS !!!
Beats headphones are mediocre and overpriced.
Beats sound "enhancer" is a bass-heavy equaliser.
Other equalisers are configurable and work instead of the beats one, but don't get rid of it, it can still be switched on if that's what you want.
It would seem that some peoples ears or brain-wiring is broken, although what one would like to hear is quite subjective.
it depends on the app, but for me all i have tried don't override Beats, and end up like rubbish.
I didn't see any equalizer have better bass/treble than Beats, so far.
Maybe try installing beats equalizer mod (if not stock), that is the best customization option IMO.
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it depends on the app, but for me all i have tried don't override Beats, and end up like rubbish.
I didn't see any equalizer have better bass/treble than Beats, so far.
Maybe try installing beats equalizer mod (if not stock), that is the best customization option IMO.
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Cheers mate
Problem is I haven't touched my HOX so completely stock.
So basically, an EQ won't over-ride beats properly?
And could cause it to be worse than usual?
So stick with beats?
Yeah man ....beats are rubbish ...use Esq equalizer ....its very good if you like bass
Ahh! Two different points of view.
Someone saying EQ sucks?
Someone saying Beats Sucks?
Which should I use?
How will I get better audio from my songs, using the in-built beats or downloading an EQ and playing with that?
Wilks3y said:
Ahh! Two different points of view.
Someone saying EQ sucks?
Someone saying Beats Sucks?
Which should I use?
How will I get better audio from my songs, using the in-built beats or downloading an EQ and playing with that?
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I use beats with dspmanager, link not in Sig as on phone but you can get it from profile.
Beats uses compression makes the music louder at the cost of quality (audio people will hear it, most people will be like oh louder).
And as said is quite bass heavy.
Dspmanager is an eq that comes of cm roms I just put it in a zip edited a few files for sense.
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I use beats with dspmanager, link not in Sig as on phone but you can get it from profile.
Beats uses compression makes the music louder at the cost of quality (audio people will hear it, most people will be like oh louder).
And as said is quite bass heavy.
Dspmanager is an eq that comes of cm roms I just put it in a zip edited a few files for sense.
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Problem is I don't know how EQ's work and I don't know what to do to make sound quality better.
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Problem is I don't know how EQ's work and I don't know what to do to make sound quality better.
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If you install one and dislike it, you can uninstall it right?
I'm sure they come with some presets to give you an idea.
Anybody running an aftermarket eq or dsp pack? Looking to improve the audio. Tried a beats apk and it would only work intermittently, switched to player pro with the dsp plugin and audio is a little better. On my one x plus i had the viper rom with beats audio and it sounded great and had a bunch of different headphone profiles built in. Id like to get something like that again. Anybody found something that works. I am rooted on the at&t model if you need to kno.
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Anybody running an aftermarket eq or dsp pack? Looking to improve the audio. Tried a beats apk and it would only work intermittently, switched to player pro with the dsp plugin and audio is a little better. On my one x plus i had the viper rom with beats audio and it sounded great and had a bunch of different headphone profiles built in. Id like to get something like that again. Anybody found something that works. I am rooted on the at&t model if you need to kno.
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Volume + works great for me .... has simple settings for speaker and headset ... also has eq. to customize ur audio
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Volume + works great for me .... has simple settings for speaker and headset ... also has eq. to customize ur audio
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Can you be a little more specific wether I search four volume + I get several results...
OG PRO
Better? Lol :thumbup:
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Better? Lol :thumbup:
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Yes sir. Thanks I'll give out a try..
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Improve Audio?
I think Poweramp still the king
With tuning at Equalizer and Tone
audio quality sucks on every Qualcom chipsets... that makes me to come back to my iphone
I just downloaded Equalizer from Smart Android Apps last night. BIG improvement to the sound quality, and the "Unlocked" version is only two bucks.
So I picked up my LG3 for sprint over the weekend. Loving the phone so far, coming from a HTC one M7. Definitely prefer the G3 in every aspect however one thing I noticed is the headset volume is not as loud. Which sucks because I use my phone at the gym and it's a big difference from the HTC one. Is there an app that you guys would recommend to solve this issue? I saw someone mention the Beats Audio app, but can't seem to find it...
OR am I stuck until we can get a root and load a kernel to fix this?
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So I picked up my LG3 for sprint over the weekend. Loving the phone so far, coming from a HTC one M7. Definitely prefer the G3 in every aspect however one thing I noticed is the headset volume is not as loud. Which sucks because I use my phone at the gym and it's a big difference from the HTC one. Is there an app that you guys would recommend to solve this issue? I saw someone mention the Beats Audio app, but can't seem to find it...
OR am I stuck until we can get a root and load a kernel to fix this?
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Which headset/earbuds are you using?
Which music player are you using?
I use PowerAmp for Android (I also purchased the unlocker).
This app has hands down the best equalizer/booster/settings for any aspect of listening to music.
Try the free version, if it has solved your problem you may consider buying the unlocker.
Hope this has helped you out
Ambastic said:
Which headset/earbuds are you using?
Which music player are you using?
I use PowerAmp for Android (I also purchased the unlocker).
This app has hands down the best equalizer/booster/settings for any aspect of listening to music.
Try the free version, if it has solved your problem you may consider buying the unlocker.
Hope this has helped you out
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Thanks Man,
I can use the stock music player it comes with since it has an equalizer as well and noticed it does make it louder. However, I mostly stream through soundcloud and so the equalizer doesn't have an effect on that.
There are also equalizers that will alter all the sound coming out of the phone.
No matter what the audio source is.
This app does that, you might give it a try.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer
Yea it sucks i got skullcandy navigators and not even poweramp sounds good but after its rooted I can modify sound file and install viper like my s5 and then it will pump.
ViperAudioooo
raw2000j said:
Yea it sucks i got skullcandy navigators and not even poweramp sounds good but after its rooted I can modify sound file and install viper like my s5 and then it will pump.
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You can change all the audio settings using ViperAudio search XDA and you will find the page, i have used this and doubles the volume and clarity, must have android mod..
I am using klipsh ear buds and they are super loud. Hurts my ears to go past about 75%. And I don't have sensitive ears either. I have a jl w7 13.5 which blasts my ears about 2 hours a day
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You can change all the audio settings using ViperAudio search XDA and you will find the page, i have used this and doubles the volume and clarity, must have android mod..
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Wish I could but cant root yet [emoji30]
use this mod
Root
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Wish I could but cant root yet [emoji30]
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no towel root for you?? that sucks
J0hn78 said:
You can change all the audio settings using ViperAudio search XDA and you will find the page, i have used this and doubles the volume and clarity, must have android mod..
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Thanks I wasn't sure if Viper would work. Installed Busy Box and Viper and now Lifes Good....
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You can change all the audio settings using ViperAudio search XDA and you will find the page, i have used this and doubles the volume and clarity, must have android mod..
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Im using a modded sound file and viper now my headphones pump
Viper Audio
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Im using a modded sound file and viper now my headphones pump
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Nice once you have the right IRS files and your own personal preference there is no going back