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Beats for cyanogen is it possible ?

Sorry if its a stupid question me and a few friends have just been wondering ?
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I don't understand it question
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ibrahima said:
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HTC has announced "beats" technology in their new phones that supposedly offer better audio quality when plugging in Beats headphones.
Pretty much a publicity stunt.

I think it's hardware related... chance for desire HD... but i don't think we Vision can have Beats working

What's the difference between htc dezire and g2 I thought they were the same thing and what I was asking to your question is can we get htc beats on cyanogen mod . Basicly can it be converted to an apk like a normal application would and would it run on my g2 properly running cyanogen mod nightlies
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Its on virtuous unity. Its nothing more than eg preset though
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Exactly what spastic said... you can get it for AOSP (CM7/MIUI) roms with volume+ app. But, as he said, its just an equalizer. It does make an inprovement, imo.

devonthedude18 said:
What's the difference between htc dezire and g2 I thought they were the same thing and what I was asking to your question is can we get htc beats on cyanogen mod . Basicly can it be converted to an apk like a normal application would and would it run on my g2 properly running cyanogen mod nightlies
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Desire HD is capable of play Dolby and SRS while Vision is not... ROM like Virtuous Unity can make Dolby working for Vision but SRS still not work. That makes me think of the differences in hardware between these 2 devices
I've used some previous Sense 3.5 ROM that has Beats but not working or force close on activation

sino8r said:
Exactly what spastic said... you can get it for AOSP (CM7/MIUI) roms with volume+ app. But, as he said, its just an equalizer. It does make an inprovement, imo.
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Any flashable zips? Link to the app? Lol i'm running aosp and i'm interested cuz the lack of an equalizer sucks

It's probably useless, actually; I found something weeks ago demo'ing how the Beats software works on laptops. It actually completely kills your bass and treble when it's off and then makes things sound magically better when it's on, because you're comparing it to garbage. I would assume that's how the phone software works too. You'd be better off just using the DSPManager that's included with CM7 and setting the EQ how you like.
However, I know the laptops get a better audio processor, and I'm sure those one or two new phones have also has better audio processing hardware, which we obviously cannot duplicate.

its not possible on cyanogen, but it works on siulmagics sense 3.0 port. ill upload it tonight maybe. and YES SRS and DOLBY also work. beats makes a huge impact for me tbh.

EfemaN said:
It's probably useless, actually; I found something weeks ago demo'ing how the Beats software works on laptops. It actually completely kills your bass and treble when it's off and then makes things sound magically better when it's on, because you're comparing it to garbage. I would assume that's how the phone software works too. You'd be better off just using the DSPManager that's included with CM7 and setting the EQ how you like.
However, I know the laptops get a better audio processor, and I'm sure those one or two new phones have also has better audio processing hardware, which we obviously cannot duplicate.
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Sir, can you suggest a great DSP manager settings for Headphones?

dihan91 said:
Sir, can you suggest a great DSP manager settings for Headphones?
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Yup! It's pretty easy to do. Open DSP Manager, enable Dynamic Range Compression (I recommend Moderate strength). Enable Bass boost, select the strength you think suits best. Enable equalizer, and the preset closest to beats is Rock, but as each set of headphones or earphones is different, you may wish to tweak the EQ manually too - it's simple enough. If sound is too bassy, reduce the first two points, if too much treble, the 4th and 5th points. You'll get used to the feel of it after a short while playing about.
There's no perfect EQ that suits every type of music or every set of headphones. The best thing to do is play around with it until you get a sound you really like. Presets are a good place to start, though.

Wasn't there a beats_allandroid.zip somewhere? A flashable beats library that boosts the sound quality a little? I remember flashing that onto my Milestone, which screwed the original motorola sound enhancers, but it worked perfectly with DSP manager on HTC Desire Z, and the audio was better. These were still just libraries, not an APP, DSP manager still worked better IMO. I don't know about beats headphones though, I got a higher mid-end AKG phones - plays great.

Stable Beats Audio for Jelly Bean HTC One X?

Hey folks. So I recently installed a JB ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796340
Works greats, but the only problem that is I've lost the Beats Audio driver which came with Sense 4.0 and I'd quite like it back.
I tried this one here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motioncoding.beats&hl=en
which worked perfectly to begin with, but shortly after my system became completely unstable with apps constantly crashing, forcing me to wipe my phone and start over.
So does anyone know of a solution to this? Or am I just gonna have to wait a while for a stable release, given how new Jelly Bean is?
Thanks,
PS>If any of this sounds noobish, that would be because I actually am new to all this.

nomis101uk said:
Hey folks. So I recently installed a JB ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796340
Works greats, but the only problem that is I've lost the Beats Audio driver which came with Sense 4.0 and I'd quite like it back.
I tried this one here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motioncoding.beats&hl=en
which worked perfectly to begin with, but shortly after my system became completely unstable with apps constantly crashing, forcing me to wipe my phone and start over.
So does anyone know of a solution to this? Or am I just gonna have to wait a while for a stable release, given how new Jelly Bean is?
Thanks,
PS>If any of this sounds noobish, that would be because I actually am new to all this.
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Beats Audio is prepared for Sense... And IceColdJelly is completely NonSense ROM. You have to make a decision:
1. Beats audio with any Sense ROM (Stock or Custom)
2. IceColdJelly without Beats Audio.
That's all....
If you want IceCOldJelly.... Just reflash the ROM. It will be OK, I guess.

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Beats Audio is prepared for Sense... And IceColdJelly is completely NonSense ROM. You have to make a decision:
1. Beats audio with any Sense ROM (Stock or Custom)
2. IceColdJelly without Beats Audio.
That's all....
If you want IceCOldJelly.... Just reflash the ROM. It will be OK, I guess.
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Really? That sucks :crying: Other people seem to have had have luck on non-Sense phones, based on the reviews of the app I linked to. But in that case, I'll stick with Jelly Bean. HTC will be updating the One X eventually anyway...

Try this..it replaces lib files and installs custom dsp manager..its the nearest i can get to beats..i m running it on cm10 tho..
http://db.tt/4PxCCvPG
Its flashable zip file..
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flash infinity's onextram sound enhancer mod

Since Beats audio really doesn't improve anything but the bass, cant you get the same result with an eq?

Power amp app is all you need.

Use this mod linked below (be sure to make a nandroid backup before you flash it). It has beats audio and a lot of other mods as well that you can select while installing the mod.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692233
The sound with the latest version (14) is pretty good and offers beats audio from Rezound.
Use it with a player like DoubleTwist or PowerAmp which has it's own equalizer, and you can get great audio quality on your music.
Also, System wide sound equalizers and DSP manager doesn't seem to have any effect on the sound on AOSP based ROMs.

Beats audio is effectively dynamic EQ, little more. Unlike a static EQ, it's trying to EQ based on 'beats'. At a very crude level, it's boosting certain frequencies when they are needed... e.g Bass on a musical 'beat' / peak. It's a little more complex than that - it's signal processing similar to an 'exciter'.
You can get comparable results with a decent EQ app (I use PlayerPro) although EQ in this form is static and not dynamic, but Beats Audio 'just works' for almost all apps.
It's also branded and hyped to high heaven - to make it seem like some amazing feature.
Lets us not forgets, we've had HTC trying this with SRS and Dolby too...
One final thing to remember - making something sound 'better' doesn't mean it's making it more accurate! usually it's the opposite. Most users will be playing 128K mp3 files so it's hardly surprising they feel the sound lacks a little depth.

Thanks for the replies guys. I'll try the One eXtreme Sound Enhancer tomorrow and report back after a trial run.
And yeah, I am aware that Beats Audio is nothing more than a glorified dynamic EQ that's hyped marketed up the **** to appeal to people who have no idea about music production, and who think that Mr. Dre (he's not a doctor...) can magically dip his fingers into your MP3 and enhance the production values of the original master. Like trying to tickle somebody in a photograph...But it does the job very well so I'll forgive the hype.

nomis101uk said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I'll try the One eXtreme Sound Enhancer tomorrow and report back after a trial run.
And yeah, I am aware that Beats Audio is nothing more than a glorified dynamic EQ that's hyped marketed up the **** to appeal to people who have no idea about music production, and who think that Mr. Dre (he's not a doctor...) can magically dip his fingers into your MP3 and enhance the production values of the original master. Like trying to tickle somebody in a photograph...But it does the job very well so I'll forgive the hype.
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Works like a charm. No stability issues. Much better sound.

nomis101uk said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I'll try the One eXtreme Sound Enhancer tomorrow and report back after a trial run.
And yeah, I am aware that Beats Audio is nothing more than a glorified dynamic EQ that's hyped marketed up the **** to appeal to people who have no idea about music production, and who think that Mr. Dre (he's not a doctor...) can magically dip his fingers into your MP3 and enhance the production values of the original master. Like trying to tickle somebody in a photograph...But it does the job very well so I'll forgive the hype.
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If you can't have it with nonsense rom, you don't need to bash the product..as far as I'm concern, Beats Audio is very good..

Sense sound enhancements on AOKP/MIUI

As I'am listening to music a lot, I can't live without proper EQ + some enhancements to fill it up and make it sound how I want it to. On sense ROMS those several beats presets to choose from together with poweramp EQ and stereoX can make this job done, however on AOKP poweramp can't deliver bass at all, you have to use external AMP to get some, but even then the sound is dull and dead.. Of course you can play around with DSP manager, but it somehow just makes music sound fake, EQ works like a noise/dullness knob (lol) and virtualizer literally screws up the music, it's not even close to what poweramp or sense can do.
So, is it possible to port sense sound enhancer to other ROMS? Or maybe there is something similiar integrated in recent other branded ROMS as well?

If you like beats you could find and try one of the flashable beats zips running around.

you mean this called "awesome beats" ?
I'am afraid it's not what I'am looking for as apparently it sounded just like a renamed bass boost in dsp manager and it doesn't look as it would have anything common with HTC one. I'am looking specifically for beats solo or urbeats Sense presets or anything similiar which I haven't tried yet (maybe Xperia's have some kind of app for that?)

I'm using a miui rom and I've set srs_v sound enhancement through the snd3254 command and sound is really great. Have you tried that?
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p.lu.k said:
I've set srs_v sound enhancement through the snd3254 command and sound is really great.
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Can you be more specific?

I use awesome beats v4 with apollo player..I have tried walkman player but somehow it is buggy for me..

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Yes, of course.
Open terminal emulator and type snd3254 -dspmode XX where XX is the number of the sound enhancement you want to apply.
To see the list of possible sound enhancements you can run it with 00.
Another option is to download SndUI app from the market. It's a UI for the snd3254 command.
It shows you the list of available sound enhancements and lets you set one.
EDIT: I get the best sound with srs_v_hp or srs_a_hp dspmodes. hp means headphones.
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p.lu.k said:
SndUI app from the market. It's a UI for the snd3254 command.
It shows you the list of available sound enhancements and lets you set one.
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It's kinda interesting how it works, it surely increases treble and gives bass more headroom to DAC clipping but it comes with the price of V shaped EQ (decreased mids), which I'am afraid isn't exactly what I'am looking for.
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EDIT: I get the best sound with srs_v_hp or srs_a_hp dspmodes. hp means headphones.
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Yea, that writing depends purely on your rom. On blackout it's "playback_v_headset_srs"
PS. It seems there are some nice Equalizers (+enhancements) in play store, do they work on AOSP/MIUI ROMS? I couldn't get them to work on Sense + poweramp.

I only tried Equalizer app from the market. It works ok but the sound wasn't the best. That's my opinion at least.
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[Q] Whats Beats audio hardware?

I have done much searching on this and have still not found a definitive answer as to what the beats audio that is "built into" the phone and stock ROM do. I have found some explanations that claim it is simply an equalizer profile, but I am very skeptical simply because having toggled it on and off while playing many different musical genres, the sound is always much cleaner and crisper from the speakers with beats enabled, even though the consensus seems to be that beats mostly is only beneficial to those who listen to hip hop. I never listen to hip hop and would love to switch to cyanogenmod rather than stock or the GE port that I am currently using, but I really hate to give up the beats option. Can anybody explain exactly goes on when beats is enabled? Is there a hardware filter/dsp chip, or some kind of alternate amplifier that runs the speakers when it is enabled, that SW access to is lost when using an AOSP ROM? It has to be something more than a simple equalizer, I have tried using many different alternatives in an attempt to recreate the sound that beats gives that would be viable for use with CM, including viper audio, music fx, and Noozxoide. None of these truly replace having beats, and I think the video comparison linked below does a good job of illustrating the difference for anybody who is unsure of the significance of the difference I am talking about.
youtube.com/watch?v=dNnTOafdCos

Beats is a dsp chip. The best replacement I have found is viper4android. To get the full effect of viper you have to change lpa.decode=true in the build prop to =false. Change the ui setting of viper to expert and start playing around. I found that using the eq in combination with the impulse response delivers the best quality.
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disconnecktie said:
Beats is a dsp chip. The best replacement I have found is viper4android. To get the full effect of viper you have to change lpa.decode=true in the build prop to =false. Change the ui setting of viper to expert and start playing around. I found that using the eq in combination with the impulse response delivers the best quality.
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?

BranC85 said:
I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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No aosp can't use beats because the kernel can't use the source yet. People have been working towards adding kernel support for beats on aosp. It may be possible just not currently.
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BranC85 said:
I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.

tflogic said:
A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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While this may be a good starting point the best method is to experiment and find what works best for you. He forces viper audio which is something I never do and doesn't need to be done.
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Also, I have noticed that viper almost never sounds the same between roms, rom versions etc. I pretty much have to tweak the settings a little bit every time. I do use the same basic configuration with the exception of the eq.
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tflogic said:
A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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agreed, this is the closes thing to sounding like beats on AOSP and the Carnage's profile is the best by far. :good:
give it a try. OP

Basically all it is in my opinion is just a glorified equalizer. If you are listening to music, playing a video, etc. All it really does that I've noticed is make it louder and adds a little more bass. My girlfriend has an aftermarket Pioneer stereo in her car that has built in Bluetooth and listening to music through my HTC one vs her Samsung galaxy s4 I noticed a bit of difference in those between the two phones. That's the best way I know to describe it.
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blkhrt13 said:
Basically all it is in my opinion is just a glorified equalizer. If you are listening to music, playing a video, etc. All it really does that I've noticed is make it louder and adds a little more bass. My girlfriend has an aftermarket Pioneer stereo in her car that has built in Bluetooth and listening to music through my HTC one vs her Samsung galaxy s4 I noticed a bit of difference in those between the two phones. That's the best way I know to describe it.
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It is an equalizer, but in reality, instead of relying on software and using cpu power, it it's a built in chip that only works on sense and HTC GPE roms as the technology is closed source.
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Sound Quality on Nougat Based ROMs

Hi Everyone,
Is it just me or the sound quality after updating to Nougat has really gone down (that we need upgrades like A.R.I.S.E or Divine beats?). Earlier I noticed that we used to have a simple mod for any sound i.e. Viper4Android, which is still MOTHER OF ALL SOUND MODs for me .
I noticed that the audio playback is having VERY MUFFLED bass through my home theatre system over the same bluetooth connection while playing with MM ROM. I tried rolling back to MM and things work perfectly. I wish to stay on Nougat for obvious advantages of the newer UI, better battery & performance but would still like to see if anyone can port the lib from MM to N?
I don't essentially want to install ARISE or Divine Beats; for me Viper4Android is just fine and I would love if it works just the way it used to on MM.
PS: I bought my home theatre after tweaking Viper v2.5.0.5 on MM and the same is not working after updating to N.... any help is appreciated.

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yep i thought i was the only one

I use Beats Audio player & Audio Tuner from sound settings. On headphones sounds good.

Dupleshwar said:
yep i thought i was the only one
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True.
null0seven said:
I use Beats Audio player & Audio Tuner from sound settings. On headphones sounds good.
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The sound libraries have DEFINITELY changed in the system which are truly worse than Marshmallow!
I certainly need someone's help in getting them Ported back or else I have no other option other than rolling back to MM (since I spend 4-5 hrs/day on music). :crying:

anmolkakkar said:
True.
The sound libraries have DEFINITELY changed in the system which are truly worse than Marshmallow!
I certainly need someone's help in getting them Ported back or else I have no other option other than rolling back to MM (since I spend 4-5 hrs/day on music). :crying:
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Viper4Android and Divine beats/A.R.I.S.E are completely different. Divine beats and arise change your music first without you going into the app to change things. When I installed freedomOS with Divine beats, I notice my bass was extremely overpowered and everything just sounded like crap.... I really don't understand people's music choices sometimes. All these sound mods just make the phone sound like crap, especially since the OP3 already has a much warmer profile, meaning the bass and highs are very pronounced from the box

crzykiller said:
Viper4Android and Divine beats/A.R.I.S.E are completely different. Divine beats and arise change your music first without you going into the app to change things. When I installed freedomOS with Divine beats, I notice my bass was extremely overpowered and everything just sounded like crap.... I really don't understand people's music choices sometimes. All these sound mods just make the phone sound like crap, especially since the OP3 already has a much warmer profile, meaning the bass and highs are very pronounced from the box
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Exactly my point.
Even though the sound out of box was very good, using Viper4Android would take it to the next level. But Divine/A.R.I.S.E fiddle too much and extort the audio.
Marshmallow sound libraries were literally awesome and V4A on top of it would just make it mind blowing. Don't know how to get that same experience without going back from Nougat. :'(

anmolkakkar said:
Exactly my point.
Even though the sound out of box was very good, using Viper4Android would take it to the next level. But Divine/A.R.I.S.E fiddle too much and extort the audio.
Marshmallow sound libraries were literally awesome and V4A on top of it would just make it mind blowing. Don't know how to get that same experience without going back from Nougat. :'(
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Well you can install freedomOS without the Divine beats and what not, install Blu_spark kernel and set it to SElinux to permissive. Then you can install Viper4Android on its own and you'll have some nice audio.

crzykiller said:
Well you can install freedomOS without the Divine beats and what not, install Blu_spark kernel and set it to SElinux to permissive. Then you can install Viper4Android on its own and you'll have some nice audio.
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I'll try and see how it goes.

anmolkakkar said:
I'll try and see how it goes.
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I strongly recommend against this. Just install Magisk or use something that comes with Magisk preinstalled and install the Viper4Android from the Magisk repo / Magisk module. There is also one for Dolby Atmos. That way you don't have to mess with SELinux or modify system files.

Nah...Didn't go well.
Still the same sound quality. Muffled and garbled.

I have the EXACT same issue. I can't believe OnePlus went ahead and did this. Who do I tell?

I have great sound...experienceos + viper4arise with magisk. Install permissive script for magisk to avoid overheating issues. Dont tinker to much in viper . This is my speaker setting its loud and very clear. I love it.

humzaahmed155 said:
I have the EXACT same issue. I can't believe OnePlus went ahead and did this. Who do I tell?
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I completely understand....
v.konvict said:
I have great sound...experienceos + viper4arise with magisk. Install permissive script for magisk to avoid overheating issues. Dont tinker to much in viper . This is my speaker setting its loud and very clear. I love it.
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I beg to differ from your opinion here though.
After trying out 4 different Nougat based ROMs and 4 different Marshmallow based ROMs (yeah....took a lot of time with clean installation and stuff), I easily infer that OP3 Nougat ROMs have REALLY POOR sound libraries. Viper4Android alone works well with Marshmallow based ROMs (and using it with A.R.I.S.E/Divine Beats/etc. makes it even better) and bass doesn't distort at all (saved a few Viper Profiles and re-used them between ROMs). But the same profile in Viper on Nougat sounds just CRAP!!
Don't know what the solution here. Just wish there was some way to find out what is it that is causing this to happen? Which part of sound library or which file? Can anyone help?