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Hey Guys! Im new on this forum (even though i have made this account some time ago, i never used it )
So.. i just Rooted my HTC Desire, which i've been so afraid of. But now i had to to it regarding the lack of SD-card installing.. BUT! now i installed this neat app called something like "app2sd" which unlocks the installing to SD-card, but it just unlocks the feature like the FroYo update unlocked, just on some other apps?
So my question is.. CAN i move the WHOLE app to my SD-Card, and can i do it without flashing a custom rom or whatever? (which i am afraid of doing) because i want some of those GAMELOFT apps and the main app does still fill up some space unfortunately..
I hope you get what i'm saying (im not the best at english, but im trying )
If you didnt understand me, and want to help me, just tell me and ill try slicing it in pieces
Thanks in advance!
- Mathias
Well the froyo a2sd do in fact move the full app. It just leaves data and dalvik cache behind on /data. But to answer your question, yes it is possible, but the best implementations of a2sd is found in the custom roms. Those are also a natural extend, when you have rooted your phone. And btw. there is no risk involved in flashing a custom rom at all. The risky part is the root process itself.
If you want proper a2sd, you must go about it in the following steps:
1. backup all files on you sd-card to your computer
2. install rom manager
3. in rom manager choose to partition your sd-card. Just pick 512 for ext, 0 for swap and the rest for fat32
4. Move all your stuff back to the sd-card, which should now show up as being 512 mb smaller
5. Pick a custom rom and download the zip file like leedroid, if you like the stock look(or find a flashable zip containing the files for a2sd)
6. backup anything necessary and flash the zip through recovery
edit: and btw. don't excuse your english. It's not bad compared to many other people on this board
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Well the froyo a2sd do in fact move the full app. It just leaves data and dalvik cache behind on /data. But to answer your question, yes it should be possible, but the best implementations of a2sd is found in the custom roms. Those are also a natural extend, when you have rooted your phone. And btw. there is no risk involved in flashing a custom rom at all. The risky part is the root process itself.
If you want proper a2sd, you must go about it in the following steps:
1. backup all files on you sd-card to your computer
2. install rom manager
3. in rom manager choose to partition your sd-card. Just pick 512 for ext, 0 for swap and the rest for fat32
4. Move all your stuff back to the sd-card, which should now show up as being 512 mb smaller
5. Pick a custom rom and download the zip file like leedroid, if you like the stock look(or find a flashable zip containing the files for a2sd)
6. backup anything necessary and flash the zip through recovery
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Thanks for the fast answer!
Well its not for breaking my phone im afraid of using custom ROM, my problem is that theres always some issues, and i've heard something about the RADIO or some stuff??
But if theres a custom ROM based on the FroYo which allows me to move EVERYTHING from my internal to external, which would you recommend, and wheres a good spot to find alot of those roms?
By the way, i also want them in danish language!
Well as for stability, those completely based on the stock roms(leedroid) are just as stable as the htc-ones. And if you are already on froyo, updating the radio shouldn't be necessary. And the only roms without danish language on here is the one labeled miui(some chinese custom rom) btw. im danish myself.
But the way you want to completely move /data to /sd-ext is called data2ext, and i personally wouldn't recommend it, as everything gets kind of laggy in my experience. This is due to the sd-card being much slower in read/write rates than the nand chip, so keep as much as possible internal without filling it up. I would recommend a2sd+ instead, which should give you plenty of space for apps as well
A great rom build on std. htc with a2sd+ is leedroid as already mentioned or auraxtsense, if you want a different theme.
Yea I see but let's keep it English as some people might find it useful :b
But now I ran into another problem .. which is, that I know used that app2sd unlocker and now I can't put widgets on my homescreen from the apps? Like handcent sms if you know it?
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Yes that is because the froyo a2sd solution stores the apps on the fat32 partition which is not initialized before late in the bootprocess meaning the apps is not accessible when widgets are loaded. So using froyo a2sd you should keep apps with widgets on internal.
But with a2sd+ on leedroid or a similar Rom this won't be a problem as the ext partition is initialized early in the boot process. So go with one of the custom roms. That would be my recommendation
Alright then.. but is my data from my apps stored on my sdcard? Like I have "3gwatchdog", and it has stored all of my data transfers. Is that saved when I back up my sdcard and just install the program on my custom Rom?
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No, data from apps is still stored on the internal memory
The ONLY way to get it all onto the SD card is to use a custom ROM which includes Data2SD - but it's still a bit buggy and can lead to a quicker death of your SD card
So theres no way, that I can save my stats from my apps, so I can restore them on my custom Rom??
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mathiasb2 said:
So theres no way, that I can save my stats from my apps, so I can restore them on my custom Rom??
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Titanium backup.
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Titanium backup.
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Thanks for telling me about that app! But my problem as I see it now, is that when I wanna use Titanium backup, I do need "busybox" and busybox fails when I try to install it? On the market it also says that HTC Desire is not supported?
- what am I supposed to do then?
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Date of Release: January 29, 2011
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Update on Beta 4
It seems I'm getting mixed results with these betas. I'm not sure why this is occurring, some people have been able to get this working right while others have had a hard time with it.
Currently, I'm rebuilding the entire program. This takes a while because I have to figure out how to pack all these options into the program but make it small enough to where it will run correctly.
I will say that some of the beta features are coming back out...one of them is the search for a partition code. I suspect that code may be leading me into issues with certain platforms, so I'm going back to the 2.7.5.2 method of mounting (mmcblk0p2 or mmcblk1p2).
Also, parts of the code will use Busybox Ash (the only code that won't will be starta2sd, which will still use Bash for the time being). The startup code will definitely use Busybox Ash.
Until then, here are the links to the the last two betas and the last official release:
Version 2.7.5.3 Beta 04 - http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip
Version 2.7.5.3 Beta 03 - http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta03-signed.zip
Version 2.7.5.2-1 - http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.2-1-signed.zip
And, if you want past versions, you can view the repository: ftp://dtuser:[email protected] (ignore the smiley face...that's XDA doing that.)
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Beta 04 took longer than I expected to release. I have done major changes to the code:
1. New commands: convert-ext4 - This will convert your EXT3 partition into EXT4. Just a friendly reminder on this command: Not every rom supports EXT4, so it is possible to go into a boot loop if you switch roms. Use with caution.
2. Reworked convert-ext3 (convert-ext4 gets similar code)...now a flag file is set before the reboot (no conversion is done before the reboot). At load time, the conversion is performed. This takes longer in the reboot process and you may think your phone has locked up...wait about five minutes before doing anything with the phone.
3. Repair is rebuilt...now it uses existing commands to repair the setup (reinstall, remove, cachesd, cachepart, nocache, datasd, nodata). Definitely shrinks the code.
4. Added fix_permissions program to the package. This may help with Superuser issues when using the datasd feature. It is used in reinstall, remove, datasd and nodata.
5. a2sd install is back!!! Both a2sd install and a2sd reinstall do the exact same thing.
6. Dalvik heap code has been shrunk and now creates a file called dalvikheap. Actually, the code has been doing this all along (since about 2.7.5.2, I think), but I never put the code in to use the file.
7. Low Memory Killer code has also been shrunk and uses a file caled dtset_lowmem to set the low memory killer parameter.
8. Replaced Busybox PS function with Toolbox PS. The issue with Busybox PS is that it gives a false reading when I look for android.process.acore (which is the main program when the GUI starts up). If that is present, the program thinks you are trying to run Darktremor without any command line parameters. This was because Busybox would report the process was there when, in reality, it wasn't (validated this when my phone was boot looping.) Toolbox's PS reports the correct setting. This should fix the bootlooping issues some people are experiencing.
9. New commands: usedtbusybox and usedefaultbusybox - these commands may help in diagnosing issues that is may be related to the native Busybox on your rom. a2sd usedtbusybox will use the Busybox that is packaged with Darktremor. a2sd usedefaultbusybox will turn back on the scan behavior of the program introduced in Beta 03.
10. Support for Darktremor Apps2SD version 2.7 and earlier has been discontinued. To upgrade correctly from one of those versions, use version 2.7.5.3 Beta 03b or earlier.
11. Finally fixed stalled boot issues (or at least my tests with several roms says so.)
See the change log for additional details.
You will notice that if the program runs repair and finds a problem, it will correct the issue and reboot. You will see a second reboot when the dalvik-cache clears (this is to fix timing issues with CyanogenMod...I can't control that startup as well as I can other roms). This only happens if repair is ran or you flash a new rom (as repair will realign all data). If you are upgrading from a previous version of Darktremor, you should not see the reboots.
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This is Darktremor Apps2SD, a multipurpose program that primarily allows a user to execute applications created for the Android OS on their Secure Digital card (with the proper setup...more on that later). But, Darktremor Apps2SD is all about stability. The goal is to be able for all users of the Android OS to be able to take advantage of a method to run their applications from a secure digital card.
But just because the Darktremor Apps2SD is all about stability, doesn't mean it isn't packed with features:
- Move applications (both free and paid) to the Secure Digital card.
- Move Dalvik Cache to run either from your Secure Digital card or from your cache partition and clears the cache on demand.
- Boot Loop Protection: prevents the phone from boot looping in the event the SD card could not be mounted.
- Dalvik JIT for faster performance on Roms which support it.
- User selectable sizes for the Dalvik heap sizes, allowing a user to freely optimize their system.
- Activate a swap partition on your SD card and sets how often the swap partition is utilized.
- Automatically fixes configuration issues.
- Users can check the free space on their SD card and check the installation to make sure all is setup correctly.
- Runs ZipAlign on demand...this makes your programs load faster.
- Built in help system for easy reference of commands.
- All features can also be reversed without repartitioning your Secure Digital card.
- New logging features assists in troubleshooting issues.
- Commands to set the Low Memory Killer feature at boot time. Great for those people who are the "set it and forget it" type.
- And more...
Darktremor Apps2SD is not the same as Froyo Apps2SD. Froyo Apps2SD creates a secure folder on the FAT32 section of your SD card (this is the section that you see when you mount your phone to your computer) and stores the programs there. This is nice as you don't have to do anything special with the phone, but it isn't backwards compatible with older versions of Android (Cupcake, Donut, Eclair) and, because of the way Froyo works, older programs not designed for Froyo will automatically stay on your internal storage (unless you install a program that forces the move to your SD card).
Darktremor Apps2SD takes a different approach. Based on the original CyanogenMod works, Darktremor Apps2SD uses symbolic linking to force Android into moving your applications to the SD card. Because Android will not allow anything to be ran from the FAT32 partition on your SD card (and, in Froyo, it will only allow you to run programs from a special folder), Darktremor utilizes filesystems called EXT2, EXT3 and EXT4. Each one of these filesystems is native to Linux (the operating system running Android), which allows you to run programs from them (same as, say, a computer running Ubuntu). This method is completely compatible with all versions of Android, including Froyo. In fact, you can run both the Darktremor Apps2SD and Froyo Apps2SD at the same time.
Check out the list of Roms that either have Darktremor Apps2SD installed or are compatible with Darktremor Apps2SD. Click on the link labeled ROM List at the top of this message.
What?! Thanks darktremor, used this with my slide, will be testing and update this post asap with feedback.
Just curious though, is this meant for froyo based roms or should it work with gingerbread also?... guess I could test and see. Also do we still need to used the 'a2sd reinstall' and 'a2sd cachesd' commands to install it?
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will this also work with sense roms?
g1junky said:
will this also work with sense roms?
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Not sure, that's why we are testing it.
I can't get it to work on CM7 nightly 11 ( That I know of).
Used Clockworkmod to set up the ext partition (which doesn't specify which filesystem so i'm guessing either ext2 or ext3); set partition to 512mb and swap to 0mb.
Card partitioned successfully according to CWM; upon flashing the app2sd.zip the installation goes through all steps and posts that the install was successful even though the little check box by install successful is the only one that is starred. I noticed that during the install the script mounts /system and /data to write to them...not sure if that is affected by GB. I thought I read somewhere that this script was designed to check for ext4.
Hell, idk lol. I nandroided and went for it, these are my findings.
scratch that, there's a part two i missed that involves command line functions in the terminal emulator app. It looks like it's working to me.
Edit2: From what ive moved to /sd-ext so far everything seems to be working. Moved my apps, app data, dalvik cache and /data/data.
So far I havent experienced any data loss when moving /data/data.
There's no reason it shouldn't work with Gingerbread, other than the usual suspect of the rom doesn't launch scripts at boot or doesn't have EXT support.
As for the commands, you shouldn't have to rerun those commands if you are upgrading.
KCRic said:
What?! Thanks darktremor, used this with my slide, will be testing and update this post asap with feedback.
Just curious though, is this meant for froyo based roms or should it work with gingerbread also?... guess I could test and see. Also do we still need to used the 'a2sd reinstall' and 'a2sd cachesd' commands to install it?
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Yes, it should. I'm running a Sense UI rom on my Evo and it has 2.7.5.3 Beta 02.
g1junky said:
will this also work with sense roms?
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I can honestly say that so far everything seems to be working well on my end. Dropped ~100megs of internal space usage and sent it to the sd.
The phone does seem a bit snappier, does this style of app2sd stress the card more than usual?
hmm.
I'm running cm 7 nightly 11, set 512mb, 0mb swap and I think I got everything right. Strangely enough, I keep getting reboots every time i run a command in terminal.
edit: a2sd command*
SWEEET..........
I too can confirm that this works with CM7 Nightly "Gingerbread" sweet, installed the zip file from recovery, QUICK NOTE: Had to mount /system and mount /data in recovery before installing the zip file from sdcard. This is great apps2ext that works with any rom. Now in my titanium back ups it shows three seperate storge locations: internal, SD card and SDCard(a2sd) plus it restored apps I previously had on my ext.2 partition from when I was running Enoms Rom....sweeeeeet.
Also dont forget to run the command in adb shell:
Code:
/system/bin/a2sd cachesd
if you want to move dalvik cache to sd.
UPDATE: internal memory free reads out of 1.37GB Avail. there is 1.28GB FREE and Ive got 77 apps installed right now and about too install a lot more..........
FYI im runnning a 16gb class 10 sd card with a 1024mb ext.2 partition
Most of the code is similar to the previous version. I think the snappiness may be that your SD card is faster than internal storage.
stevencpoynter said:
I can honestly say that so far everything seems to be working well on my end. Dropped ~100megs of internal space usage and sent it to the sd.
The phone does seem a bit snappier, does this style of app2sd stress the card more than usual?
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Did you type su before you run an a2sd command?
zarskee seven nine said:
I'm running cm 7 nightly 11, set 512mb, 0mb swap and I think I got everything right. Strangely enough, I keep getting reboots every time i run a command in terminal.
edit: a2sd command*
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Just so everyone knows (may want to add this to the OP you know, so you don't get a million ?'s) these are the commands you HAVE to enter after flashing it in recovery.
Code:
su [ENTER]
cd /system/bin [ENTER]
sh a2sd cachesd [ENTER]
Your phone will reboot and will take a bit to complete - be patient because it's moving all your apps and the dalvik cache.
Notes: Your memory will still drop (not by much) over time because the apps will still store cached memory on the phone. To deal with this use the 'datasd' command to move that info to the sdcard also. Also, use the 'a2sd help' command to find all the functions you can perform with this. If you've used this before then all of this is irrelevant
Was so excited about this , It worked perfectly on CM7 nightly builds but when I went to update the Nightly build from 11 to 12, problems, keep getting reboot, since all my apps including titanium were on EXT, I could not access them, so the modification didn't stick from build to build, had to full data wipe, so I guess I'll be coming back to this when CM7 stable is realeased.
Yah I did. It's a beta on a nightly rom...I'm not surprised that something would be weird. I know it worked sending my dalvik cache to sd for sure, but as far as my apps being reinstalled on sd..im not sure. I followed the directions to the t and i know i didnt skip steps cause i used to use this on my nexus one
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Was so excited about this , It worked perfectly on CM7 nightly builds but when I went to update the Nightly build from 11 to 12, problems, keep getting reboot, since all my apps including titanium were on EXT, I could not access them, so the modification didn't stick from build to build, had to full data wipe, so I guess I'll be coming back to this when CM7 stable is realeased.
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You may have to remove the script in terminal, reinstall the rom than rerun the zip script. I think that should work if you want to keep using this on nightlies
If you change roms (including moving between different nightly builds), you will need to reflash Darktremor.
The only time you don't have to do that is if Darktremor is already added on the rom you are loading. Since CM7 doesn't have Darktremor installed as part of its package, you'll have to reflash each time you change nightly builds.
If you still don't have access to your programs, type a2sd reinstall
My apologies.
zarskee seven nine said:
You may have to remove the script in terminal, reinstall the rom than rerun the zip script. I think that should work if you want to keep using this on nightlies
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after several days nothing new in this android development section, today i saw something new here, keep your good work, gonna try it when i get home
This is about three months overdue. Unfortunately, job, family and the holiday season got the best of me.
fajarep said:
after several days nothing new in this android development section, today i saw something new here, keep your good work, gonna try it when i get home
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For me it seems that it doesn't stick. I tried it with cm7, flashed it in recovery and when I booted up to run the commands in terminal they weren't there. No a2sd at all. Guess I could shove all in the ROM prior to flashing and see if that works.
Hey all. Can't post in the development forum therefore I'll post here.
I have a Leedroid 2.5 A2SD+ rom but this should apply to all A2SD roms.
What I want to do is to force install the software onto the internal memory. I've tried googling and playing around with it myself without any luck. I've ran ADB in recovery and I can't even push the app into "/data/app" since it directs it to "system/sd/app" which is my ext partition.
Is there anyway to do this or I am out of luck ? The reason behind this is that my Handcent is glitching and there is a delay in notifications (vibrate > sound> LED) This started only after I install LeeDroid A2SD+ rom so I have a feeling that my SD card is slowing things down.
Hopefully someone has an idea about this.
Have you tried spareparts, install it, you'll have an option where to install apps, then set it on internal, may work..
I do have Spareparts, it already comes with LeeDroid but I can't see any options that relate to what you've mentioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702997
There are 2 SpareParts, use the one in the link. The second option is app2sd, click on it and choose internal.
Hey, I've tried it but it doesnt seem to work.It still installs onto the SDcard. Hmm...i am stumped, cuz there is gotta be a way to force install an app onto internal memory..
hi,
there is some commando would managed this
=> adb shell pm setInstallLocation 1
more info into leedroid wiki =>
http://leedroid.com/bravo-wiki/prevent-any-all-apks-from-installing-to-sd-card
hope this help
Grrr.... Can't figure it out.
Nothing seems to work. I've tried the guide on the Leedroid Wiki with no luck, I've tried Titanium Backup thing that you have mentioned in the other thread. Doesn't work either. The only thing I don't get is how to remount the sd-ext partition, because in the comments of the Leedroid Wiki, that's what made it work for one of the users. I've tried remounting in CWM(ClockWorksMod) but that didn't work.
SpareParts essentially does that command setInstallLocation 1 but in GUI mod. I am lost.
I've tried using that "pm" command to install onto internal flash since there are commands that apparently allow you too but it still installs onto the SDcard. I am just wondering, is there anyway to temproraly disable App2SD script ?
hi,
if you can't get sorted like this, maybe Darktremor app2sd script wil help you, never tried as i m using data++ rom but here is the complete thread... hope for you that will help.
therez a long explication of how it s working and how to apply this on your current rom.
be sure to get root rights
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715116
hoep this help
Thanks for your help. I took a different route by pushing the APK onto the /system partition. I had 20mb left so it was enough for an app.
Thanks for all the help))
Hi,
First i will say thanks for the great rom, i will try it asap (a little bit more stable)
i read about this rom in the topic since it was started .
i have some Questions, it will be my first "clean" Android (without Sense)
There should be a installer after first start of the rom after flash? Where can i found more information about the things i can chose?
Evervolv toolbox, is that an addtional Settings Dialog with more Options or still a app which can be used as "standalone"
(sorry for the bad english)
When you install it you will get some options to choose a launcher and a2sd-script.
On first start you won't get the app to set your g-acc and so on, you'll have to do that in the system settings.
And the Evervolv-Toolbox are additional settings the this rom it's not a standalone app.
Hope this helps
grtz
Please note that Sandvold ICS v. 0.4.2.1 has some stability problems at the moment. Many people experience "black screen of death", device fails to turn on screen after a period of inactivity, battery has to be removed to reboot. I found that raising the minimum CPU speed from 245mhz to 384mhz completely removes this problem. With this small tweak the rom is great! You *should* be able to change this setting with Evervolv toolbox, sadly it does not work. For some reason the toolbox runs with insufficient rights to tweak cpu speed, I did my own scripts to set cpu speed from the console instead.
cheers
/Stig
stig_dk said:
Please note that Sandvold ICS v. 0.4.2.1 has some stability problems at the moment. Many people experience "black screen of death", device fails to turn on screen after a period of inactivity, battery has to be removed to reboot. I found that raising the minimum CPU speed from 245mhz to 384mhz completely removes this problem. With this small tweak the rom is great! You *should* be able to change this setting with Evervolv toolbox, sadly it does not work. For some reason the toolbox runs with insufficient rights to tweak cpu speed, I did my own scripts to set cpu speed from the console instead.
cheers
/Stig
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Black-screen-issues can be solved by flashing MIUI-kernel:
http://www.miui-au.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=166
Hi! I use ICS since beta 0.3.9 and I'm now updated to 0.4.4
This release seem very stable now. Just remember that the camera preview doesn't work. Also, you might have some problem with MMS.
App space problem
Hello - some help for a newbie please (well Desire newbie)...
I did try reading though Sandvolds thread, and I have tried to remedy, but I don't seem to get much further ....
I am running an ICS beta on my tablet, so I thought it would be interesting to try it on my Desire too. On the tablet there is more memory, so I have never experienced space problems with apps.
I rooted the Desire OK - and flashed 0.4.2.1 ... ran fairly smoothly, but hit space problems when trying to load up some of my favourite apps. I have a 16gb sd card. I downloaded apps2sd from the market - and moved some of the apps. However still not able to update some system apps from the market due to insufficient space (even though there appears to be enough).
Reading the other thread, I have gathered some/little understanding... and so before flashing 0.4.4 I reformatted my SD card from recovery choosing the largest ext4 that I could.
I was then ready to go to try 0.4.4.
On trying the Amarullz script and Nova launcher - I was having lots of lag after boot and I kept getting prompted to enter PIN number and reboot the phone. (I had done a factory wipe and cleared Dalvik after flashing the ROM).
I then reflashed choose Apex launcher, stock Kernal and data2sd option.
I wiped after flashing, did a few waits and reboots - as others recommended this.
Now seems to run quite smoothly, I have added back a bunch of apps via Titanium Backup ... but I don't see any apps 'automatically' being moved to sd card. I have moved as many as I can manually.
But I can also see that I am going to run out of space again soon ....
If I look in the settings at storage I see...
Internal storage - Apps 104MB Available 26.86MB
SD Card - Apps 239MB
Am I doing anything wrong?
Looloup said:
Hello - some help for a newbie please (well Desire newbie)...
I did try reading though Sandvolds thread, and I have tried to remedy, but I don't seem to get much further ....
I am running an ICS beta on my tablet, so I thought it would be interesting to try it on my Desire too. On the tablet there is more memory, so I have never experienced space problems with apps.
I rooted the Desire OK - and flashed 0.4.2.1 ... ran fairly smoothly, but hit space problems when trying to load up some of my favourite apps. I have a 16gb sd card. I downloaded apps2sd from the market - and moved some of the apps. However still not able to update some system apps from the market due to insufficient space (even though there appears to be enough).
Reading the other thread, I have gathered some/little understanding... and so before flashing 0.4.4 I reformatted my SD card from recovery choosing the largest ext4 that I could.
I was then ready to go to try 0.4.4.
On trying the Amarullz script and Nova launcher - I was having lots of lag after boot and I kept getting prompted to enter PIN number and reboot the phone. (I had done a factory wipe and cleared Dalvik after flashing the ROM).
I then reflashed choose Apex launcher, stock Kernal and data2sd option.
I wiped after flashing, did a few waits and reboots - as others recommended this.
Now seems to run quite smoothly, I have added back a bunch of apps via Titanium Backup ... but I don't see any apps 'automatically' being moved to sd card. I have moved as many as I can manually.
But I can also see that I am going to run out of space again soon ....
If I look in the settings at storage I see...
Internal storage - Apps 104MB Available 26.86MB
SD Card - Apps 239MB
Am I doing anything wrong?
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1). www.revolutionary.io use this
2). www.alpharev.com download cm7r2.img
3). flash the hboot
Code:
fastboot flash hboot hboot.img
4). re-flash 4.4 and choose stock a2sd
5. enable a2sd
Code:
su
a2sd install
#choose settings#
Thanks for quick response..... I have a fee more questions....
I originally rooted my Desire via revolutionary .... do I need to do it again?
I guess I then flash the zip file.
The fastboot command - can I do this from the terminal app?
hi,
fastboot command and adb must be running from computer.
you need to instal sdk android sdk android
if you run revolutionary, u don t need to do once again but to flash an hboot you must be Soffed.
dunno if revolutionary does the job... i used alpharev to do son gain S-offed and able to flash hboot from fastboot command.
I saw the option to install agps in the installer but i chose gps. How can i add the agps when i already installed the rom? Because getting gps fix in navigation is taking way to long, so long that i abort it while trying
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@bortak
1. Done OK
2. Done OK
3. Done OK
4. Done ... BUT ... no Gapps, no Terminal app ... not much really not even a keyboard (even after 2 reboots)
- The link to Gapps for CM7r2 no longer works
5. Unable to try this as no Terminal app ... and I can't get ADB working on my PC.
where have my apps gone?
So I can't get cm7r2 to work, so I reflashed hboot back to standard, I then reflashed 0.4.4 choosing stock a2sd. I installed a2sd via terminal and moved cache too. After reboot I installed a bunch of apps .... and eventually ran out of space - as if apps not being moved.
I then rebooted, and all of the apps except the paid apps have gone. I installed a couple of apps from the. Market and they have also gone after reboot.
I turned a2sd off, then I was able to keep apps over a reboot ..... but I would like to get a2sd working.
Any ideas?
For now I am manually moving apps to SD card.
Sorry for this question...
Your 3G, Wifi is working.. My wifi, 3G is not working..
3g (once APN set up) and wifi both working well
Looloup said:
@bortak
1. Done OK
2. Done OK
3. Done OK
4. Done ... BUT ... no Gapps, no Terminal app ... not much really not even a keyboard (even after 2 reboots)
- The link to Gapps for CM7r2 no longer works
5. Unable to try this as no Terminal app ... and I can't get ADB working on my PC.
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Did you do a wipe after flashing the rom? I had a similar problem when doing that. CWM Recovery also deletes the sd-ext partition, and as on cm7r2 there are also system apps on sd-ext, they are gone.
With the included a2sd apps should be moved to sd-ext automatically. It is not shown on the phone.
How big is your ext4 partition? And did you create it with CWM Recovery? If so, try recreating with gPartEd.
muellersmattes said:
Did you do a wipe after flashing the rom? I had a similar problem when doing that. CWM Recovery also deletes the sd-ext partition, and as on cm7r2 there are also system apps on sd-ext, they are gone.
With the included a2sd apps should be moved to sd-ext automatically. It is not shown on the phone.
How big is your ext4 partition? And did you create it with CWM Recovery? If so, try recreating with gPartEd.
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I created the extra partition via CWM recovery - maybe too large as I made it 4gb.
I wiped the device and Dalvik cache after flashing the ROM.
I then set a2sd via terminal and allowed reboot.
I then downloaded apps (or restored via Titanium)
Eventually ran out of space when downloading apps - so they were not being moved.
Apps run OK.
When I did a normal reboot - the apps 'disappeared '.
Reading Bortaks debug guide the only thing I can see that looks relevant is to try reformatting the SC card with 2 primary partitions.
Read what i wrote? Do the following:
1) Recreate the partitions on your sdcard using GParted
2) Do a full wipe BEFORE flashing.
3) Re-flash the rom and select stock a2sd
4) Do NOT wipe again
4) Reboot, start Terminal emulator, set up a2sd
5) See if apps stay
On my first try I selected stock A2SD and set it up as explained using the terminal. (using a 2GB ext3 partition, placed after FAT32)
I rebooted and everything seemed fine, and I installed several apps. After a while, though, I got the "insufficient storage" error whenever I tried to install something. In the application manager the internal memory available had a large negative value.
I then wiped everything, reformated the 2GB ext3 partition to ext4, using "Minitool parition wizard" and reinstalled the Sandvold ICS ROM with Amarullz. Everything seems fine, and it shows 2GB internal memory. However, I've noticed that the ROM gets more unstable the more apps I install (it shows 500MB installed apps now, after removing around 50MB)...
Most of the time what happens is that system apps start crashing (Google Music, Dialler, Contacts, etc.) out of nowhere. After a while normal apps crash on execution as well. Google music is useless, as it crashes after a few songs and brings down the whole phone. Other music apps don't have this problem.
Am I doing anything wrong with the way I set up Amarullz? Should I retry stock A2SD with ext4?
I'm using stock HBOOT, Nova launcher and stock kernel.
Got there ..... but.....
After repartitioning my SD card for the third time ... I finally have this working.
Thanks to all for help/advice ..... but (isn't there always a but) ....
Downloads from the Market/Play are extremely slow maybe 5+ times the same apps took before .... I have tried on different WiFi connections - still the same.
Is this a consequence of the write speed of my SD card (it is only class 4) ... I did see a post in another thread where a class 4 wasn't recommended, but this was refuted by others using a class 4 card.
Otherwise all apps seem to be running OK, with no real loss of performance.
I guess once I have finally loaded up on all the apps I want, the Play updates will be more infrequent and less of an issue.
Hi all,
I wann try Sandvolds ICS with my aged Desire, but apps are starting very slow and there are often FCs.
I read the dev thread very carefully, thats why i bought an class 10 micro sd card.
I'm running cm7r2 hboot with stock kernel and stock a2sd and a 2gb ext4 partition.
cache2sd enabled
dalvikcache2sd enabled
ive tried nearly everything.
Thx
Okay I just disabled cache2sd and it seems a lil bit faster, but not really satisfying.
Has anybody same troubles??
Try Data++ SPL
bortak said:
Try Data++ SPL
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Im not shure what another hboot should change?
The only thing it changes is the space for /system and /data
/cache has the same value at all
Thx
Drunken-Monkey said:
The only thing it changes is the space for /system and /data
/cache has the same value at all
Thx
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It means more system related files can be put on the internal memory instead of the sd card. Which means faster reaction time compared to your phone reading those system related files on the sdcard
stankyou said:
It means more system related files can be put on the internal memory instead of the sd card. Which means faster reaction time compared to your phone reading those system related files on the sdcard
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Yep, I got that...
but as I understand a2sd right, all data will be moved to /sd-ext/data and linked to /data or /app. Correct me if I am wrong.
Anyway, things are getting more and more complicated.
After disabling cache2sd im not able to install apps from store. Play store tells me not enough space...
Sorry... I can install apps, but the update for google maps wasn't successfull
Sorry for all that stupid questions, but i really want ICS
Drunken-Monkey said:
Yep, I got that...
but as I understand a2sd right, all data will be moved to /sd-ext/data and linked to /data or /app. Correct me if I am wrong.
Anyway, things are getting more and more complicated.
After disabling cache2sd im not able to install apps from store. Play store tells me not enough space...
Sorry... I can install apps, but the update for google maps wasn't successfull
Sorry for all that stupid questions, but i really want ICS
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1) Do a full wipe. Boot, system, data, dalvic, cache.
2) Flash Data++
3) Flash ICS and enable A2SD
It's not healthy to mess around with those settings once it's already been installed. Jus' sayin'.
bortak said:
1) Do a full wipe. Boot, system, data, dalvic, cache.
2) Flash Data++
3) Flash ICS and enable A2SD
It's not healthy to mess around with those settings once it's already been installed. Jus' sayin'.
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Alright, i'll figure it out tomorrow and tell u if it has worked.
I really appreciate ur answers!
THX
Hi all,
today i've added the cache2sd option in the a2sd script again.
for non obvious reson, i can update/install all apps again and my desire is now fast as it was pronounced in the dev thread.
i dunno what changed... soo?!
anway thx 4 the help
I had this issue, it was to do with the way I was installing a2sd. My apps took a little while to load or occasionally would pop up with a not responding messaging asking to close or wait. Usually if you clicked wait the app would load up.
Basically when you install a2sd on the terminal it asks you if you want to move apps data if you click no to it you'll find that apps will start loading quicker.
That worked for me, now every time I flash the updates to ICS I do it that way and my apps have been fine.
Rezaei12 said:
I had this issue, it was to do with the way I was installing a2sd. My apps took a little while to load or occasionally would pop up with a not responding messaging asking to close or wait. Usually if you clicked wait the app would load up.
Basically when you install a2sd on the terminal it asks you if you want to move apps data if you click no to it you'll find that apps will start loading quicker.
That worked for me, now every time I flash the updates to ICS I do it that way and my apps have been fine.
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Hi,
the weird thing is, i enabled all 2sd options, like in the first try and now it works lika a charm
Weird, the main thing is it's working though I guess!