Hi all, the name's not a joke...I'm a proud Noob.
Anyway, I'm new to all this rooting stuff. I am running Mik2.55 & Agressive Freedom 0.9. I've had them installed for 5-6 days, which is just about as long as I've been rooted.
I'd say my battery life is the same or just barely, barely, better than when it was stock.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
-HN
First of all ur using sense which can hog ur battery. Also u might want to try callibrating ur battery (u can find links in this forum on how to do this . Then using an app like battery callibration (free in market) u can help get better battery life by wiping ur battery stats (must be done when battery is 100% . Also SBC kernels can help as well. Right now there r no SBC kerenels out for sense roms that are based on gingerbread. There are SBC kernels for froyo based sense roms and also cm7 based roms (which r based on aosp gingerbread). Hope that helped a little
Try flashing a HAVS kernel with somelike like a conservative cpu profile. That should help with your battery. I am currently running CM7 with Poonkang kernel on a conservative/powersave cpu scaling and my battery lasts all day.
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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Yeah, ummm, that scare ended months ago. I DARE you to find one verifiable case where that happened in the last year. Stop spreading fear.
SBC kernels are fine and thousands and thousands and thousands of users will confirm this
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Try flashing a HAVS kernel with somelike like a conservative cpu profile. That should help with your battery. I am currently running CM7 with Poonkang kernel on a conservative/powersave cpu scaling and my battery lasts all day.
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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Don't scare him on sbc batteries. My friend I have been using sbc kernels for at least a year with a Chinese branded battery with no issues. A while ago a few people and mind you a very small amount of people had issues and it was never really proven that it was directly caused by sbc kernels and not cheap batteries. The decision is yours at the end of the day but understand there are 1,000's of us using sbc with no issues at all.
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Yeah, ummm, that scare ended months ago. I DARE you to find one verifiable case where that happened in the last year. Stop spreading fear.
SBC kernels are fine and thousands and thousands and thousands of users will confirm this
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+1, I've been using SBC kernels for almost a year now on my stock battery without any issues. SBC+salvagemod+airplane mode when not in use and my phone goes for days without charge.
Sent from my nike hating evo!
Concordium said:
Try flashing a HAVS kernel with somelike like a conservative cpu profile. That should help with your battery. I am currently running CM7 with Poonkang kernel on a conservative/powersave cpu scaling and my battery lasts all day.
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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The sky is falling the sky is falling....there I went ahead and helped press ur panic button. That "sbc scare" was a hoax created a very few idiots on here for the sole purpose of being retarded and causing problems on xda. There has not been one proven case nor one bad thing happen to anyone using an SBC kernel. Quit spreading rumors and panic on this forum. Just cause u drank the koolaid doesn't mean u need to pass it along.
Yeah, I've read a lot of the pro and anti on SBC's....I must say, they seem to be more in danger of sparking a fistfight than blowing up a phone!!!
I didn't know that sense was a power hog...gotta confess I really like it. I was running Agg. Freedom 0.9, I switched to Chop Suey 9.2.6 today....one of you guys mentioned trying a HAVS kernel....is that one? If not, is one of the other Freedom kernels or something like Golden Monkey a HAVS?
By the way, those El Cheapo batteries on eBay are too good to be true, right? You get like 15 of them and a wall charger for a dollar + shipping. Is there any legitimate source for a battery that improves performance without emptying my wallet?
Thanks!
-HN
Hmm....lots of butthurt people in here getting defensive about the integrity of their SBC feature. I said SBC "has been known," meaning it is what I have heard. I also went on to tell him to do his own research on the topic and make up his own mind. Nowhere in my post did I say that his battery would explode and that he needs to stay away from SBC at all. Forgive me, but I prefer that people have ALL information and be directed to read about POTENTIAL issues that may or may not exist so that they can investigate further if they so choose. This is supposed to be a constructive forum. So next time please provide your constructive personal experience with SBC and leave your smartass comments on Facebook where they belong.
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Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni
mgianni19 said:
Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni
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I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
EVO on Tapatalk
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I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
EVO on Tapatalk
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Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.
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Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.
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Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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No, and no
Don't use SetCPU with a havs kernel. If you go with one of his nohavs kernels then by all means use SetCPU as you wish. Another thing, just from my personal experience (though it may be different for your phone) the CFS kernels work far better than the BFS kernels. There's a guide around here that explains the difference.
As far as SBC goes, I haven't had any issues yet. I've been using a battery monitor to watch what's going on with my battery and haven't seen anything wrong with it. Another thing I do, just as a small precaution, is not let the phone charge 6-8 hours over-night. I'll let it charge to 100% then let it sit for about 2-3 more hours and call it quits. Don't know if that really does anything, but it makes me feel better so eh.
I know the military (I'm in the Army) uses Lit-ion batteries and trickle charges them without having any of them blow up/fry, however they do lose their ability to hold a charge over time. The fact that they do it, and the only problem has been lifespan of the battery is what convinced me to try an SBC kernel. Just choose whichever you feel comfortable with. It's all preference really.
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Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc is the best from my personal experieince...good battery life and makes choppy roms run a lot more smoothly
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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I've been using that one with no-sbc and it's worked great with the conservative profile. HAVS just deals with what voltage the processor uses at any given time/frequency so you can indeed use setcpu with it. It's the kernels with the built in smartass governor or ROMs using other battery tweaking scripts that don't always work well with setcpu.
And trust me, the military does not trickle charge their li-ions and they only run them at 4.10 volts to extend their life (depending on battery, always less than volts than their commercial counterparts). This I know for certain.
Anyone have a link to the stock kernel
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
Guys quick question, with the above mentioned kernel. What frequency does if use when you turn off the screen? I want if to use the lowest possible, does the kernel do it automatically or should I use something like the overlook widget?
Also, can someone please provide instructions how to update the kernel, I haven't looked at the link yet so If there's instructions there that fine.
Thanks
wifi errors
i just flashed to netarchy kernel to my evo. cfs, havs no sbc. when i try to connect to wifi it says error. i used kernal manager to flash the kernal. is there anything i can to do to get the wifi back or do i need to go back to the stock kernel. i am running sprint lovers ROM. any suggestions.
update. when i flashed manually everything worked fine. maybe the kernel manager program has an issue with wiping the cache. not really sure. just thought i should let everyone know.
I would use the stock #15 HTC Kernel but with SBC. Link is in sec post here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590
I've been using netarchy 4.3.4 cfs more havs aggressive sbc with no problems. Amazing battery life and very responsive.
Netarchy's kernels are very stable,if you're up for it try a sbc kernel,great battery life.
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i was just reluctant to try an sbc because of the horror stories i have heard about frying the battery. i guess when i feel lucky i will try it.
whats the best kernel to use with miui v1.2.11 any suggestions from anyone would be appreciated also could you include a link if possible if not i will use the search thank you
I'm still on 1.1.28, using savage 1.6. Best kernel I have ever flashed by far.
Does the front camera work with that kernel ?
Not sure, I've got the MIUI cam with no FFC. I'm pretty sure it will work with the CM cam app.
well i guess there isnt any working links to the v1.6
You may not find the exact one, but this is the link to the Savaged-Zen Kernels.
http://mirror.munkibizness.com/
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well i guess there isnt any working links to the v1.6
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This is the cfs-sbc version http://db.tt/XIeVavc
ok i got another question what is the difference between sbc and nosbc sorry if this is noob question just makin sure because reading reviews and they say that sbc can cause problems with hardware and batteries
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ok i got another question what is the difference between sbc and nosbc sorry if this is noob question just makin sure because reading reviews and they say that sbc can cause problems with hardware and batteries
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I believe SBC is a trickle charge. It does not have the instant battery % drop when you pull it off of the charger. Some people say it hurts your battery, but I've been using them for, I believe, over two months and I have had no problems.
A lot of people have had good luck with sbc but there have been some casualties. Nobody reported a single battery death until sbc kernels were introduced and within days there were I think like 14 or 15 people whose batteries died and the common factor between all of them- sbc. That being said, there hasn't been any reports like that for a while now, so maybe the devs have figured out how to make them safer. I don't follow the sbc kernel threads so that's just a guess.
Not trying to turn this into an sbc/no sbc debate, just trying to give OP a heads up.
So, been seeing a lot of new AOSP kernels being released, which is great because i have been using CM7...
However, i am trying out some new ROMS (sense) and looking for Kernels other than HTC#15 and Net's.
Lets keep the thread uncluttered... I am not looking for opinions of this is best or not... but just some other options that i can try out. If i get enough options, i can just update the OP and we can all use it as a resource... ??
Here are my priorities:
1. Battery life
2. performance
Battery life is by far the most important thing for me.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
This thread should be closed ASAP. This is going to lead to multiple people suggesting multiple kernels and arguing over which is the best. One of the unwritten rules of kernels is "Do not ask which kernel is the best." You have try them out for yourself and give them a few days to settle in.
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This thread should be closed ASAP. This is going to lead to multiple people suggesting multiple kernels and arguing over which is the best. One of the unwritten rules of kernels is "Do not ask which kernel is the best." You have try them out for yourself and give them a few days to settle in.
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Ok.. will rewrite the OP, but i am just looking for options.. i will decide what i like, but the only options i am really finding are Net and HTC#15. There was not 1 mention of "which is best"
But thanks for answering my questions.....
It's nothing personal. It's just that theses threads never end well.
Try HTC #17 (Requires you to be on PRI 1.77 and radio 09.01)
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Any of Net's, like you said.
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It's nothing personal. It's just that theses threads never end well.
Try HTC #17 (Requires you to be on PRI 1.77 and radio 09.01)
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Any of Net's, like you said.
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I get it though.. i have spent my fair share of time reading through page after page of useless BS...
Best advice is to acquire the various kernels out there.
Try each one out for a few days to see what works best with your hardware.
Finally, don't forget to mess with governors and their settings. That will have a bigger impact on your battery/performance criteria.
I have only used one for 5 minutes, as I run AOSP, but the netarchy kernels are nice.
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Best advice is to acquire the various kernels out there.
Try each one out for a few days to see what works best with your hardware.
Finally, don't forget to mess with governors and their settings. That will have a bigger impact on your battery/performance criteria.
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Right.. I get that and is what i typically do.. just looking for other Kernels TO try.....
HTC #17 (awesome, but best battery life when used on Myn's RLS4 or any pre-3.70 OTA based ROM)
HTC #15
The bajillion combinations of Netarchy-Toastmod kernels (seriously, there are a lot he's made. Static Undervolt, No Undervolt, HAVS, noHAVS, SBC, noSBC, etc).
Ziggy's (not a huge fan of these, but people seem to like them).
That's about it unless someone else wants to chime in.
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So, been seeing a lot of new AOSP kernels being released, which is great because i have been using CM7...
However, i am trying out some new ROMS (sense) and looking for Kernels other than HTC#15 and Net's.
Lets keep the thread uncluttered... I am not looking for opinions of this is best or not... but just some other options that i can try out. If i get enough options, i can just update the OP and we can all use it as a resource... ??
Here are my priorities:
1. Battery life
2. performance
Battery life is by far the most important thing for me.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Ziggy's kernels have a great balance between the 2 priorities, and battery life is great.
And just a suggestion, if you are not "looking for opinions of this is best or not". Then you might want to change the title of this thread, its a little contradicting.
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HTC #17 (awesome, but best battery life when used on Myn's RLS4 or any pre-3.70 OTA based ROM)
HTC #15
The bajillion combinations of Netarchy-Toastmod kernels (seriously, there are a lot he's made. Static Undervolt, No Undervolt, HAVS, noHAVS, SBC, noSBC, etc).
Ziggy's (not a huge fan of these, but people seem to like them).
That's about it unless someone else wants to chime in.
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hmmm.. kinda what i was thinking. Seems like there is a huge push for AOSP stuff though....
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And just a suggestion, if you are not "looking for opinions of this is best or not". Then you might want to change the title of this thread, its a little contradicting.
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GREAT POINT!! lol... I clicked edit on the OP though, and it wouldn't allow me to change the title.... ? How do i do that?
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GREAT POINT!! lol... I clicked edit on the OP though, and it wouldn't allow me to change the title.... ? How do i do that?
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click the go advanced button.
id also like a kernel for my stock 3.70. preferably one with an OC without the need for set cpu.
Ziggy works best for me but like I said that is just me, different phones seem to work different better with different kernels. It's all about what your phone likes
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As crazy as this might sound having the BEST battery life is hard to find. I'm using a regular battery not extended so I found that no matter what kernel combination I use there really is no AWESOME battery life. These types of phones on a regular battery just aren't meant to last all day. It ticks me off when people brag and they say things like "oh my evo last all day and etc" . Why brag and you're not even a heavy user like normal people. Most the people who brag about their ultra battery life aren't heavy users, and their phones are always sleeping. I use my phone all day, constant texting, twitter, Facebook, tapatalk, and wifi web browsing from about 8am-5pm. When I say heavy I mean heavy. Around 5pm my phones usually about 20 or 30% and this is perfect for me at least. I get home at 5 so that's my peak usage. I've used about every kernel/rom/tweak combination that exists and I don't think aosp has better batt life over sense and vice versa. Right now I'm using myns 2.2 with the 4.2.2 net/toast kernel sbc with the 1.77 prl and my phone can go from 8am to at least 7pm with very heavy usage. This by far the best I've gotten out of my 004 evo over and aosp/sense rom especially with everything working perfectly. Cheers.
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can someone tell me what sbc is in evo kernels?
I believe it is trickle charging. There could be more to it. It stops your battery from going from 100% to 90% right when you take it off the charger. I have been using it for months now. I like it.
Oh ok.... What is the current version?
Or should I say which one you recommend with sense rom
I really waffled away from SBC for a long time because there was some anecdotal evidence that it was bad for your battery. I started using an SBC kernel first with savaged-zen and now I use tiamat. I seem to have better results with tiamat but Im on cm7, not sense. I agree, I don't care what anyone says, I like the SBC kernel. My battery life is SICK now compared to before. I get 12 hours plus of medium to heavy use.
Does tiamat have true sbc now?
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Oh ok.... What is the current version?
Or should I say which one you recommend with sense rom
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check out this GUIDE it can help you decide....
on picking one of the NET kernels
theres others but from what i see theyre the most widely used for sense.
i use 4.3.2 cfs sbc havs less- works. good battery try a few out, but remember to cycle a few full charges before making a judgement.
I see devs promoting SBC kernels and quite a few users raving about their SBC kernels, but aren't they supposed to hurt your phone's battery big time? Are they just ignorant or how is that people are still using SBC kernels despite the known, proven facts of how harmful they are? Am I missing something?
Most people have no issues with SBC kernels. Most of the controversy that was brewed up by some people has passed, and they're pretty well accepted now. The main concern with SBC is that it can lessen the number of charges you get out of your battery. Given the price of new batteries, most users - myself included - choose the extra hours now over the possibility the battery will poop out later.
I get much better battery life on SBC, and it's worth it to me. If you're nervous about it, choose not to use them. Only a couple of phones were actually damaged, and that was when they first came out.
What do you suggest I use, as far as a good ROM/kernel setup? Or even just kernel?
I've been using an SBC kernel for about 4 months now with no ill side effects. I test my battery regularly on our machine at work just to make sure, still good.
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What do you suggest I use, as far as a good ROM/kernel setup? Or even just kernel?
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Personally recommend CM7 with the Tiamat Kernel.
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I've been using an SBC kernel for about 4 months now with no ill side effects. I test my battery regularly on our machine at work just to make sure, still good.
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Experiencing any lag? And at least you have no problems.
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Personally recommend CM7 with the Tiamat Kernel.
Experiencing any lag? And at least you have no problems.
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Nope, no lag. Both Sense and AOSP SBC kernels have performed well for me.
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Nope, no lag. Both Sense and AOSP SBC kernels have performed well for me.
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Nice, I just ask cuz most complain of the wake lag, or it stalls every now and then.
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Nice, I just ask cuz most complain of the wake lag, or it stalls every now and then.
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I didn't notice lag on the Sense rom/SBC kernel combo I played with recently, but it would stall more often than I remember with any other kernel I've used and the phone would automatically do a hot restart to get itself going again. I also noticed my phone would run much hotter than usual. It would often go over 100 F just sitting on the table while doing nothing.
Some people swear by SBC, though. I'll pass on it.