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[Q] Best Sense Kernel

So, been seeing a lot of new AOSP kernels being released, which is great because i have been using CM7...
However, i am trying out some new ROMS (sense) and looking for Kernels other than HTC#15 and Net's.
Lets keep the thread uncluttered... I am not looking for opinions of this is best or not... but just some other options that i can try out. If i get enough options, i can just update the OP and we can all use it as a resource... ??
Here are my priorities:
1. Battery life
2. performance
Battery life is by far the most important thing for me.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

This thread should be closed ASAP. This is going to lead to multiple people suggesting multiple kernels and arguing over which is the best. One of the unwritten rules of kernels is "Do not ask which kernel is the best." You have try them out for yourself and give them a few days to settle in.

Product F(RED) said:
This thread should be closed ASAP. This is going to lead to multiple people suggesting multiple kernels and arguing over which is the best. One of the unwritten rules of kernels is "Do not ask which kernel is the best." You have try them out for yourself and give them a few days to settle in.
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Ok.. will rewrite the OP, but i am just looking for options.. i will decide what i like, but the only options i am really finding are Net and HTC#15. There was not 1 mention of "which is best"
But thanks for answering my questions.....

It's nothing personal. It's just that theses threads never end well.
Try HTC #17 (Requires you to be on PRI 1.77 and radio 09.01)
or
Any of Net's, like you said.

Product F(RED) said:
It's nothing personal. It's just that theses threads never end well.
Try HTC #17 (Requires you to be on PRI 1.77 and radio 09.01)
or
Any of Net's, like you said.
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I get it though.. i have spent my fair share of time reading through page after page of useless BS...

Best advice is to acquire the various kernels out there.
Try each one out for a few days to see what works best with your hardware.
Finally, don't forget to mess with governors and their settings. That will have a bigger impact on your battery/performance criteria.

I have only used one for 5 minutes, as I run AOSP, but the netarchy kernels are nice.

gpz1100 said:
Best advice is to acquire the various kernels out there.
Try each one out for a few days to see what works best with your hardware.
Finally, don't forget to mess with governors and their settings. That will have a bigger impact on your battery/performance criteria.
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Right.. I get that and is what i typically do.. just looking for other Kernels TO try.....

HTC #17 (awesome, but best battery life when used on Myn's RLS4 or any pre-3.70 OTA based ROM)
HTC #15
The bajillion combinations of Netarchy-Toastmod kernels (seriously, there are a lot he's made. Static Undervolt, No Undervolt, HAVS, noHAVS, SBC, noSBC, etc).
Ziggy's (not a huge fan of these, but people seem to like them).
That's about it unless someone else wants to chime in.

frettfreak said:
So, been seeing a lot of new AOSP kernels being released, which is great because i have been using CM7...
However, i am trying out some new ROMS (sense) and looking for Kernels other than HTC#15 and Net's.
Lets keep the thread uncluttered... I am not looking for opinions of this is best or not... but just some other options that i can try out. If i get enough options, i can just update the OP and we can all use it as a resource... ??
Here are my priorities:
1. Battery life
2. performance
Battery life is by far the most important thing for me.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Ziggy's kernels have a great balance between the 2 priorities, and battery life is great.
And just a suggestion, if you are not "looking for opinions of this is best or not". Then you might want to change the title of this thread, its a little contradicting.

Product F(RED) said:
HTC #17 (awesome, but best battery life when used on Myn's RLS4 or any pre-3.70 OTA based ROM)
HTC #15
The bajillion combinations of Netarchy-Toastmod kernels (seriously, there are a lot he's made. Static Undervolt, No Undervolt, HAVS, noHAVS, SBC, noSBC, etc).
Ziggy's (not a huge fan of these, but people seem to like them).
That's about it unless someone else wants to chime in.
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hmmm.. kinda what i was thinking. Seems like there is a huge push for AOSP stuff though....

Yellowcard8992 said:
And just a suggestion, if you are not "looking for opinions of this is best or not". Then you might want to change the title of this thread, its a little contradicting.
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GREAT POINT!! lol... I clicked edit on the OP though, and it wouldn't allow me to change the title.... ? How do i do that?

frettfreak said:
GREAT POINT!! lol... I clicked edit on the OP though, and it wouldn't allow me to change the title.... ? How do i do that?
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click the go advanced button.
id also like a kernel for my stock 3.70. preferably one with an OC without the need for set cpu.

Ziggy works best for me but like I said that is just me, different phones seem to work different better with different kernels. It's all about what your phone likes
Sent from my Evo while i should be working

As crazy as this might sound having the BEST battery life is hard to find. I'm using a regular battery not extended so I found that no matter what kernel combination I use there really is no AWESOME battery life. These types of phones on a regular battery just aren't meant to last all day. It ticks me off when people brag and they say things like "oh my evo last all day and etc" . Why brag and you're not even a heavy user like normal people. Most the people who brag about their ultra battery life aren't heavy users, and their phones are always sleeping. I use my phone all day, constant texting, twitter, Facebook, tapatalk, and wifi web browsing from about 8am-5pm. When I say heavy I mean heavy. Around 5pm my phones usually about 20 or 30% and this is perfect for me at least. I get home at 5 so that's my peak usage. I've used about every kernel/rom/tweak combination that exists and I don't think aosp has better batt life over sense and vice versa. Right now I'm using myns 2.2 with the 4.2.2 net/toast kernel sbc with the 1.77 prl and my phone can go from 8am to at least 7pm with very heavy usage. This by far the best I've gotten out of my 004 evo over and aosp/sense rom especially with everything working perfectly. Cheers.
Sent from my Evo in your sisters closet using Tapatalk

SBC

can someone tell me what sbc is in evo kernels?

I believe it is trickle charging. There could be more to it. It stops your battery from going from 100% to 90% right when you take it off the charger. I have been using it for months now. I like it.

Oh ok.... What is the current version?
Or should I say which one you recommend with sense rom

I really waffled away from SBC for a long time because there was some anecdotal evidence that it was bad for your battery. I started using an SBC kernel first with savaged-zen and now I use tiamat. I seem to have better results with tiamat but Im on cm7, not sense. I agree, I don't care what anyone says, I like the SBC kernel. My battery life is SICK now compared to before. I get 12 hours plus of medium to heavy use.

Does tiamat have true sbc now?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

storm68 said:
Oh ok.... What is the current version?
Or should I say which one you recommend with sense rom
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check out this GUIDE it can help you decide....
on picking one of the NET kernels
theres others but from what i see theyre the most widely used for sense.
i use 4.3.2 cfs sbc havs less- works. good battery try a few out, but remember to cycle a few full charges before making a judgement.

Best AOSP Rom For Battery Life

I'm currently running Cyanogenmod, but I listen to music at least a few hours a day, and its really draining my battery. Any suggestions for a good AOSP rom for battery life, outside of MIUI and Cyanogenmod? Thanks!

Try the new savaged Zen kernel..
SENT FROM THE BATHROOM AT WORK...

ImEVO said:
Try the new savaged Zen kernel..
SENT FROM THE BATHROOM AT WORK...
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do not use the 1.0.0 kernel or you will get nasty audio quality if volume is > 50%

SZ 0.2.1 is getting me a lot of battery life. there is salvage mod 1.1 as well

I haven't done a whole lot of kernel flashing before, SZ is compatible with Cyanogenmod I take it?

Are you looking for Rome or kernels?....cus Tom's I wouldn't know but the tiamat kernel in my sig for AOSP roms works really well...SBC and non-SBC available
Sent from my nightly EVO

I am getting REALLY good results with CM7 and Tiamat. I don't do a ton of music listening but I do put medium to heavy use on it and I am nowhere near having to charge it end of day.

Thanks guys, I'm gonna try out tiamat then!
Beast, I see you're using SBC, how about you blizzard? I'm a little concerned to try the SBC one.

If you're using pandora, slacker, or some other music streaming app your battery will suffer pretty much regardless of whatever kernel you're using.
Sent from my hand with XDA Premium installed

SavagedZen is he best for ASOP in my experience, but anyone can have great battery life just by turning off data/WiFi, etc when you aren't using it.

thanamesjames said:
Thanks guys, I'm gonna try out tiamat then!
Beast, I see you're using SBC, how about you blizzard? I'm a little concerned to try the SBC one.
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I am on the nonsbc one, I usually disregard the warnings as I am fairly comfortable in flashing and such but when it states actual damage possible that's where I stop.
That's just me though, some people seem to have great success with it.

If you do a little research, the 8 reports of damage from sbc kernels came from the very early days of sbc development.
It's all I use and I haven't had a problem.
Maybe I'm just lucky

HipKat said:
If you do a little research, the 8 reports of damage from sbc kernels came from the very early days of sbc development.
It's all I use and I haven't had a problem.
Maybe I'm just lucky
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Yea don't get me wrong, I know they are probably safe to use or the devs wouldn't put them out as final builds. I just personally don't use them.

Visit HERE. Also, I've been using sbc since they first arrived on the seen. I've yet to have any problems so I suppose everyone is different.

I run this rom, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-htc-...rom-gingerbread-evo-deck-rc6-real-stable.html
And this kernel, http://mirror.savaged-zen.com/
with great results.

[Q] SBC kernel shenanigans, easy question.

I see devs promoting SBC kernels and quite a few users raving about their SBC kernels, but aren't they supposed to hurt your phone's battery big time? Are they just ignorant or how is that people are still using SBC kernels despite the known, proven facts of how harmful they are? Am I missing something?

Most people have no issues with SBC kernels. Most of the controversy that was brewed up by some people has passed, and they're pretty well accepted now. The main concern with SBC is that it can lessen the number of charges you get out of your battery. Given the price of new batteries, most users - myself included - choose the extra hours now over the possibility the battery will poop out later.
I get much better battery life on SBC, and it's worth it to me. If you're nervous about it, choose not to use them. Only a couple of phones were actually damaged, and that was when they first came out.

What do you suggest I use, as far as a good ROM/kernel setup? Or even just kernel?

I've been using an SBC kernel for about 4 months now with no ill side effects. I test my battery regularly on our machine at work just to make sure, still good.

empiire said:
What do you suggest I use, as far as a good ROM/kernel setup? Or even just kernel?
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Personally recommend CM7 with the Tiamat Kernel.
Sunsparc said:
I've been using an SBC kernel for about 4 months now with no ill side effects. I test my battery regularly on our machine at work just to make sure, still good.
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Experiencing any lag? And at least you have no problems.

teh roxxorz said:
Personally recommend CM7 with the Tiamat Kernel.
Experiencing any lag? And at least you have no problems.
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Nope, no lag. Both Sense and AOSP SBC kernels have performed well for me.

Sunsparc said:
Nope, no lag. Both Sense and AOSP SBC kernels have performed well for me.
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Nice, I just ask cuz most complain of the wake lag, or it stalls every now and then.

teh roxxorz said:
Nice, I just ask cuz most complain of the wake lag, or it stalls every now and then.
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I didn't notice lag on the Sense rom/SBC kernel combo I played with recently, but it would stall more often than I remember with any other kernel I've used and the phone would automatically do a hot restart to get itself going again. I also noticed my phone would run much hotter than usual. It would often go over 100 F just sitting on the table while doing nothing.
Some people swear by SBC, though. I'll pass on it.

[Q] Doing it all right, results wrong?

Hi all, the name's not a joke...I'm a proud Noob.
Anyway, I'm new to all this rooting stuff. I am running Mik2.55 & Agressive Freedom 0.9. I've had them installed for 5-6 days, which is just about as long as I've been rooted.
I'd say my battery life is the same or just barely, barely, better than when it was stock.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
-HN

First of all ur using sense which can hog ur battery. Also u might want to try callibrating ur battery (u can find links in this forum on how to do this . Then using an app like battery callibration (free in market) u can help get better battery life by wiping ur battery stats (must be done when battery is 100% . Also SBC kernels can help as well. Right now there r no SBC kerenels out for sense roms that are based on gingerbread. There are SBC kernels for froyo based sense roms and also cm7 based roms (which r based on aosp gingerbread). Hope that helped a little

Try flashing a HAVS kernel with somelike like a conservative cpu profile. That should help with your battery. I am currently running CM7 with Poonkang kernel on a conservative/powersave cpu scaling and my battery lasts all day.
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.

Concordium said:
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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Yeah, ummm, that scare ended months ago. I DARE you to find one verifiable case where that happened in the last year. Stop spreading fear.
SBC kernels are fine and thousands and thousands and thousands of users will confirm this

Concordium said:
Try flashing a HAVS kernel with somelike like a conservative cpu profile. That should help with your battery. I am currently running CM7 with Poonkang kernel on a conservative/powersave cpu scaling and my battery lasts all day.
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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Don't scare him on sbc batteries. My friend I have been using sbc kernels for at least a year with a Chinese branded battery with no issues. A while ago a few people and mind you a very small amount of people had issues and it was never really proven that it was directly caused by sbc kernels and not cheap batteries. The decision is yours at the end of the day but understand there are 1,000's of us using sbc with no issues at all.

HipKat said:
Yeah, ummm, that scare ended months ago. I DARE you to find one verifiable case where that happened in the last year. Stop spreading fear.
SBC kernels are fine and thousands and thousands and thousands of users will confirm this
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+1, I've been using SBC kernels for almost a year now on my stock battery without any issues. SBC+salvagemod+airplane mode when not in use and my phone goes for days without charge.
Sent from my nike hating evo!

Concordium said:
Try flashing a HAVS kernel with somelike like a conservative cpu profile. That should help with your battery. I am currently running CM7 with Poonkang kernel on a conservative/powersave cpu scaling and my battery lasts all day.
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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The sky is falling the sky is falling....there I went ahead and helped press ur panic button. That "sbc scare" was a hoax created a very few idiots on here for the sole purpose of being retarded and causing problems on xda. There has not been one proven case nor one bad thing happen to anyone using an SBC kernel. Quit spreading rumors and panic on this forum. Just cause u drank the koolaid doesn't mean u need to pass it along.

Yeah, I've read a lot of the pro and anti on SBC's....I must say, they seem to be more in danger of sparking a fistfight than blowing up a phone!!!
I didn't know that sense was a power hog...gotta confess I really like it. I was running Agg. Freedom 0.9, I switched to Chop Suey 9.2.6 today....one of you guys mentioned trying a HAVS kernel....is that one? If not, is one of the other Freedom kernels or something like Golden Monkey a HAVS?
By the way, those El Cheapo batteries on eBay are too good to be true, right? You get like 15 of them and a wall charger for a dollar + shipping. Is there any legitimate source for a battery that improves performance without emptying my wallet?
Thanks!
-HN

Hmm....lots of butthurt people in here getting defensive about the integrity of their SBC feature. I said SBC "has been known," meaning it is what I have heard. I also went on to tell him to do his own research on the topic and make up his own mind. Nowhere in my post did I say that his battery would explode and that he needs to stay away from SBC at all. Forgive me, but I prefer that people have ALL information and be directed to read about POTENTIAL issues that may or may not exist so that they can investigate further if they so choose. This is supposed to be a constructive forum. So next time please provide your constructive personal experience with SBC and leave your smartass comments on Facebook where they belong.