can someone tell me what sbc is in evo kernels?
I believe it is trickle charging. There could be more to it. It stops your battery from going from 100% to 90% right when you take it off the charger. I have been using it for months now. I like it.
Oh ok.... What is the current version?
Or should I say which one you recommend with sense rom
I really waffled away from SBC for a long time because there was some anecdotal evidence that it was bad for your battery. I started using an SBC kernel first with savaged-zen and now I use tiamat. I seem to have better results with tiamat but Im on cm7, not sense. I agree, I don't care what anyone says, I like the SBC kernel. My battery life is SICK now compared to before. I get 12 hours plus of medium to heavy use.
Does tiamat have true sbc now?
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storm68 said:
Oh ok.... What is the current version?
Or should I say which one you recommend with sense rom
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check out this GUIDE it can help you decide....
on picking one of the NET kernels
theres others but from what i see theyre the most widely used for sense.
i use 4.3.2 cfs sbc havs less- works. good battery try a few out, but remember to cycle a few full charges before making a judgement.
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Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni
mgianni19 said:
Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni
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I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
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I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
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Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.
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Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.
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Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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No, and no
Don't use SetCPU with a havs kernel. If you go with one of his nohavs kernels then by all means use SetCPU as you wish. Another thing, just from my personal experience (though it may be different for your phone) the CFS kernels work far better than the BFS kernels. There's a guide around here that explains the difference.
As far as SBC goes, I haven't had any issues yet. I've been using a battery monitor to watch what's going on with my battery and haven't seen anything wrong with it. Another thing I do, just as a small precaution, is not let the phone charge 6-8 hours over-night. I'll let it charge to 100% then let it sit for about 2-3 more hours and call it quits. Don't know if that really does anything, but it makes me feel better so eh.
I know the military (I'm in the Army) uses Lit-ion batteries and trickle charges them without having any of them blow up/fry, however they do lose their ability to hold a charge over time. The fact that they do it, and the only problem has been lifespan of the battery is what convinced me to try an SBC kernel. Just choose whichever you feel comfortable with. It's all preference really.
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Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc is the best from my personal experieince...good battery life and makes choppy roms run a lot more smoothly
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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I've been using that one with no-sbc and it's worked great with the conservative profile. HAVS just deals with what voltage the processor uses at any given time/frequency so you can indeed use setcpu with it. It's the kernels with the built in smartass governor or ROMs using other battery tweaking scripts that don't always work well with setcpu.
And trust me, the military does not trickle charge their li-ions and they only run them at 4.10 volts to extend their life (depending on battery, always less than volts than their commercial counterparts). This I know for certain.
Anyone have a link to the stock kernel
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Guys quick question, with the above mentioned kernel. What frequency does if use when you turn off the screen? I want if to use the lowest possible, does the kernel do it automatically or should I use something like the overlook widget?
Also, can someone please provide instructions how to update the kernel, I haven't looked at the link yet so If there's instructions there that fine.
Thanks
wifi errors
i just flashed to netarchy kernel to my evo. cfs, havs no sbc. when i try to connect to wifi it says error. i used kernal manager to flash the kernal. is there anything i can to do to get the wifi back or do i need to go back to the stock kernel. i am running sprint lovers ROM. any suggestions.
update. when i flashed manually everything worked fine. maybe the kernel manager program has an issue with wiping the cache. not really sure. just thought i should let everyone know.
I would use the stock #15 HTC Kernel but with SBC. Link is in sec post here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590
I've been using netarchy 4.3.4 cfs more havs aggressive sbc with no problems. Amazing battery life and very responsive.
Netarchy's kernels are very stable,if you're up for it try a sbc kernel,great battery life.
sbc
i was just reluctant to try an sbc because of the horror stories i have heard about frying the battery. i guess when i feel lucky i will try it.
I'm currently running Cyanogenmod, but I listen to music at least a few hours a day, and its really draining my battery. Any suggestions for a good AOSP rom for battery life, outside of MIUI and Cyanogenmod? Thanks!
Try the new savaged Zen kernel..
SENT FROM THE BATHROOM AT WORK...
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Try the new savaged Zen kernel..
SENT FROM THE BATHROOM AT WORK...
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do not use the 1.0.0 kernel or you will get nasty audio quality if volume is > 50%
SZ 0.2.1 is getting me a lot of battery life. there is salvage mod 1.1 as well
I haven't done a whole lot of kernel flashing before, SZ is compatible with Cyanogenmod I take it?
Are you looking for Rome or kernels?....cus Tom's I wouldn't know but the tiamat kernel in my sig for AOSP roms works really well...SBC and non-SBC available
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I am getting REALLY good results with CM7 and Tiamat. I don't do a ton of music listening but I do put medium to heavy use on it and I am nowhere near having to charge it end of day.
Thanks guys, I'm gonna try out tiamat then!
Beast, I see you're using SBC, how about you blizzard? I'm a little concerned to try the SBC one.
If you're using pandora, slacker, or some other music streaming app your battery will suffer pretty much regardless of whatever kernel you're using.
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SavagedZen is he best for ASOP in my experience, but anyone can have great battery life just by turning off data/WiFi, etc when you aren't using it.
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Thanks guys, I'm gonna try out tiamat then!
Beast, I see you're using SBC, how about you blizzard? I'm a little concerned to try the SBC one.
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I am on the nonsbc one, I usually disregard the warnings as I am fairly comfortable in flashing and such but when it states actual damage possible that's where I stop.
That's just me though, some people seem to have great success with it.
If you do a little research, the 8 reports of damage from sbc kernels came from the very early days of sbc development.
It's all I use and I haven't had a problem.
Maybe I'm just lucky
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If you do a little research, the 8 reports of damage from sbc kernels came from the very early days of sbc development.
It's all I use and I haven't had a problem.
Maybe I'm just lucky
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Yea don't get me wrong, I know they are probably safe to use or the devs wouldn't put them out as final builds. I just personally don't use them.
Visit HERE. Also, I've been using sbc since they first arrived on the seen. I've yet to have any problems so I suppose everyone is different.
I run this rom, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-htc-...rom-gingerbread-evo-deck-rc6-real-stable.html
And this kernel, http://mirror.savaged-zen.com/
with great results.
What you guys think for best battery life no sbc kernel bad for battery looking for a good kernel to run with elite 3 and virus airborne beta. Been using net kernel latest no cfs no sbc no suv bfs did try one ziggy kernel on older 5.4 airborne Rom.thanks finally figured out how to get sense running on airborne beta .
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What you guys think for best battery life no sbc kernel bad for battery looking for a good kernel to run with elite 3 and virus airborne beta. Been using net kernel latest no cfs no sbc no suv bfs did try one ziggy kernel on older 5.4 airborne Rom.thanks finally figured out how to get sense running on airborne beta .
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HERE you can compare kernels. But i personally like a kernel that more aggressive. Netarchys Kernels & Ziggy's Kernels
You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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Which is better net cfs havs more no sbc or all no with cfs
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Which is better net cfs havs more no sbc or all no with cfs
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Personally bfs doesnt play well with my phone so stay with cfs. try each for a day and compare notes.
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You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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Im using the net more havs hope it doesn't hurt my phone . Thanks what Rom u using . I'm on airborne
ive tried all kinda kernels, nets and ziggys in my opinion are the best. right now im using nets newest 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) i get Really good battery life and evrything seems to mesh well. but from what ive been reading not all kernels work the same for different phones.
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ive tried all kinda kernels, nets and ziggys in my opinion are the best. right now im using nets newest 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) i get Really good battery life and evrything seems to mesh well. but from what ive been reading not all kernels work the same for different phones.
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Got onto the Elite 3 ROM the other day and LOVE it! However, its absolutely chewing through my battery life (extended batteries). Went from getting at very least 12 hours on MikFroyo 4.5 & stock kernel to now sitting at 63% after 3 hours! Was using Juice Defender for a bit until this kernel. lots of people said not to with havs.
Using Nets 4.3.4 cfs nosbc haves more with Konis Elite Series 3.
Have also got Setcpu running at smartass (also tried on demand) st 245/740ish and have one screen off profile set to 245/245 powersave.
Need to find a fix because I want to stay on this ROM.
I see devs promoting SBC kernels and quite a few users raving about their SBC kernels, but aren't they supposed to hurt your phone's battery big time? Are they just ignorant or how is that people are still using SBC kernels despite the known, proven facts of how harmful they are? Am I missing something?
Most people have no issues with SBC kernels. Most of the controversy that was brewed up by some people has passed, and they're pretty well accepted now. The main concern with SBC is that it can lessen the number of charges you get out of your battery. Given the price of new batteries, most users - myself included - choose the extra hours now over the possibility the battery will poop out later.
I get much better battery life on SBC, and it's worth it to me. If you're nervous about it, choose not to use them. Only a couple of phones were actually damaged, and that was when they first came out.
What do you suggest I use, as far as a good ROM/kernel setup? Or even just kernel?
I've been using an SBC kernel for about 4 months now with no ill side effects. I test my battery regularly on our machine at work just to make sure, still good.
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What do you suggest I use, as far as a good ROM/kernel setup? Or even just kernel?
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Personally recommend CM7 with the Tiamat Kernel.
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I've been using an SBC kernel for about 4 months now with no ill side effects. I test my battery regularly on our machine at work just to make sure, still good.
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Experiencing any lag? And at least you have no problems.
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Personally recommend CM7 with the Tiamat Kernel.
Experiencing any lag? And at least you have no problems.
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Nope, no lag. Both Sense and AOSP SBC kernels have performed well for me.
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Nope, no lag. Both Sense and AOSP SBC kernels have performed well for me.
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Nice, I just ask cuz most complain of the wake lag, or it stalls every now and then.
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Nice, I just ask cuz most complain of the wake lag, or it stalls every now and then.
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I didn't notice lag on the Sense rom/SBC kernel combo I played with recently, but it would stall more often than I remember with any other kernel I've used and the phone would automatically do a hot restart to get itself going again. I also noticed my phone would run much hotter than usual. It would often go over 100 F just sitting on the table while doing nothing.
Some people swear by SBC, though. I'll pass on it.
Hi all, the name's not a joke...I'm a proud Noob.
Anyway, I'm new to all this rooting stuff. I am running Mik2.55 & Agressive Freedom 0.9. I've had them installed for 5-6 days, which is just about as long as I've been rooted.
I'd say my battery life is the same or just barely, barely, better than when it was stock.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
-HN
First of all ur using sense which can hog ur battery. Also u might want to try callibrating ur battery (u can find links in this forum on how to do this . Then using an app like battery callibration (free in market) u can help get better battery life by wiping ur battery stats (must be done when battery is 100% . Also SBC kernels can help as well. Right now there r no SBC kerenels out for sense roms that are based on gingerbread. There are SBC kernels for froyo based sense roms and also cm7 based roms (which r based on aosp gingerbread). Hope that helped a little
Try flashing a HAVS kernel with somelike like a conservative cpu profile. That should help with your battery. I am currently running CM7 with Poonkang kernel on a conservative/powersave cpu scaling and my battery lasts all day.
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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Yeah, ummm, that scare ended months ago. I DARE you to find one verifiable case where that happened in the last year. Stop spreading fear.
SBC kernels are fine and thousands and thousands and thousands of users will confirm this
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Try flashing a HAVS kernel with somelike like a conservative cpu profile. That should help with your battery. I am currently running CM7 with Poonkang kernel on a conservative/powersave cpu scaling and my battery lasts all day.
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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Don't scare him on sbc batteries. My friend I have been using sbc kernels for at least a year with a Chinese branded battery with no issues. A while ago a few people and mind you a very small amount of people had issues and it was never really proven that it was directly caused by sbc kernels and not cheap batteries. The decision is yours at the end of the day but understand there are 1,000's of us using sbc with no issues at all.
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Yeah, ummm, that scare ended months ago. I DARE you to find one verifiable case where that happened in the last year. Stop spreading fear.
SBC kernels are fine and thousands and thousands and thousands of users will confirm this
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+1, I've been using SBC kernels for almost a year now on my stock battery without any issues. SBC+salvagemod+airplane mode when not in use and my phone goes for days without charge.
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Try flashing a HAVS kernel with somelike like a conservative cpu profile. That should help with your battery. I am currently running CM7 with Poonkang kernel on a conservative/powersave cpu scaling and my battery lasts all day.
Also, because you're a noob, you need to know that using kernels with SBC has been known to cause damage to batteries. So before you flash a kernel with SBC, as mentioned above, do some research on SBC and it's potential dangers. Then decide for yourself whether or not you are willing to try it.
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The sky is falling the sky is falling....there I went ahead and helped press ur panic button. That "sbc scare" was a hoax created a very few idiots on here for the sole purpose of being retarded and causing problems on xda. There has not been one proven case nor one bad thing happen to anyone using an SBC kernel. Quit spreading rumors and panic on this forum. Just cause u drank the koolaid doesn't mean u need to pass it along.
Yeah, I've read a lot of the pro and anti on SBC's....I must say, they seem to be more in danger of sparking a fistfight than blowing up a phone!!!
I didn't know that sense was a power hog...gotta confess I really like it. I was running Agg. Freedom 0.9, I switched to Chop Suey 9.2.6 today....one of you guys mentioned trying a HAVS kernel....is that one? If not, is one of the other Freedom kernels or something like Golden Monkey a HAVS?
By the way, those El Cheapo batteries on eBay are too good to be true, right? You get like 15 of them and a wall charger for a dollar + shipping. Is there any legitimate source for a battery that improves performance without emptying my wallet?
Thanks!
-HN
Hmm....lots of butthurt people in here getting defensive about the integrity of their SBC feature. I said SBC "has been known," meaning it is what I have heard. I also went on to tell him to do his own research on the topic and make up his own mind. Nowhere in my post did I say that his battery would explode and that he needs to stay away from SBC at all. Forgive me, but I prefer that people have ALL information and be directed to read about POTENTIAL issues that may or may not exist so that they can investigate further if they so choose. This is supposed to be a constructive forum. So next time please provide your constructive personal experience with SBC and leave your smartass comments on Facebook where they belong.