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TMO Galaxy S2 "Not part of our replacement program"?

Well i went back to stock (at least tried to) for the preperation of ICS and the maintenance update. That was a disaster. I have had over 25 android phones but i guess i thought it would be a good idea to check re-partition in ODIN cause i thought it would be an *extra good* flash. Ya now i have a FULL brick. Before i tried to reboot download mode, it said PARTTABLE missing or something like that. And yes it was a full brick there was nothing i could do.
Whats even BETTER is that TMOBILE told me to shove it! "Oh this phone is not part of our replacement program." WTF. So they directed me to call Samsung which i did and it is now on it's way there. Since when does a phone i bought on the account less than six months ago not qualify for an exchange. Bastards. Well hopefully Samsung fixes it in a timely fashion and sends it back!

My wife recently broke her screen on her GS2 and they replaced it...

Geeze man, that's a major screw up. It's posted everywhere not to check repartition. and tmo has been replacing these phones for people.
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Idk who you talked to maybe a out sourced rep but sg2 is surely part of the exchange list my bro just did a exchange on his two days ago
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So Tmobile has con another person. I think that you should tell Tmobile to shove it again and again after the lie they told you. The are the practical joking wireless company, don't be fooled by one representation of Tmobile, you have to keep escalating the situation until you find the hard to get truth with Tmobile.
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For future reference you cannot and should not ever check re-partition with out a valid PIT file. It will always result in a brick otherwise.

-Mr. X- said:
For future reference you cannot and should not ever check re-partition with out a valid PIT file. It will always result in a brick otherwise.
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I agree with you. It was a very very dumb move. But i was pretty sure there is a pit file in the same folder as i have odin and i put it in the correct box.
See i figured someone shafted me. That really sucks cause god knows samsung is going to take longer than it would have taken teabag-mobile! GRRRR.

xsteven77x said:
I agree with you. It was a very very dumb move. But i was pretty sure there is a pit file in the same folder as i have odin and i put it in the correct box.
See i figured someone shafted me. That really sucks cause god knows samsung is going to take longer than it would have taken teabag-mobile! GRRRR.
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No, no pit file
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Why would you go through all of that unrooting for an update that you will want to root ? I mean we all know what ICS looks like... i guess i just dont understand why you even wanted to do that when we have multiple Twiz flavored ICS roms that have 0 bugs and even ASOP and MIUI ICS Roms with very few bugs..

xsteven77x said:
I agree with you. It was a very very dumb move. But i was pretty sure there is a pit file in the same folder as i have odin and i put it in the correct box.
See i figured someone shafted me. That really sucks cause god knows samsung is going to take longer than it would have taken teabag-mobile! GRRRR.
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samsung had my device back to me in 5 days. i mailed it on a Monday and got it back on a Friday. brand new device not a refurb.

dude I have done two replacements on this phone You should never ever ever call tmo on the phone to get anything done period. Go to a corporate tmo store not one of those dealers a full tmo store and deal with them face to face. Those idiots over the phone are stupid and they dont care, but when you are face to face they will respect you more and try harder. And they dont just call the same number we call when you go to a corporate store they actuall get to the right people. Hell I dont even call them to change my plan I go to the store. You know how many times I just wanted to make a small change in my plan and they gave me a problem or they did the wrong thing and then I went to the store and they fixed it without a problem. I know it might be a pain in thew ass I work 70+ hours a week and I dont have a car but I still find a way Thats my two cents

If you gave tmo warranty call again they should replaxe it.
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-Mr. X- said:
samsung had my device back to me in 5 days. i mailed it on a Monday and got it back on a Friday. brand new device not a refurb.
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Hmm I've got serious blobs in my screen did the one they sent you have any flaws?
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blchff04 said:
Hmm I've got serious blobs in my screen did the one they sent you have any flaws?
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I am currently on my 4th S2 since NYE when I purchased the phone, never have I had issues getting a replacement. The only issues ive had have been trying to go around the.$20 fee since I dont have thr insurance but even that can be waived easily
My first replacement had issues so I quickly returned till I had a decent one then that one stopped charging after like 6 months.
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You'll be fine man. You seem to have a phone with a warranty. Mines from Ebay.
And its actually nice to know Tmobile does that.
Good luck.
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Android_Monsters said:
You'll be fine man. You seem to have a phone with a warranty. Mines from Ebay.
And its actually nice to know Tmobile does that.
Good luck.
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definitely! also this last time they offered me a $3.99/month for LIFETIME WARRANTY so as long as i don't have any water damage or screen physical damage, i am set well that is until the next top of the line phone comes out, and no the SIII isn't good enough to switch at least from what i've read about it

mojorisin7178 said:
dude I have done two replacements on this phone You should never ever ever call tmo on the phone to get anything done period. Go to a corporate tmo store not one of those dealers a full tmo store and deal with them face to face. Those idiots over the phone are stupid and they dont care, but when you are face to face they will respect you more and try harder. And they dont just call the same number we call when you go to a corporate store they actuall get to the right people. Hell I dont even call them to change my plan I go to the store. You know how many times I just wanted to make a small change in my plan and they gave me a problem or they did the wrong thing and then I went to the store and they fixed it without a problem. I know it might be a pain in thew ass I work 70+ hours a week and I dont have a car but I still find a way Thats my two cents
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That's funny, we've had the reverse experience.
The T-Mobile store people have frequently lied to us. When we signed up during their Valentine's Day deal they lied about the plan requirements, they lied about transferring our old phone numbers to T-Mobile that day, they told us we could downgrade from unlimited talk and 5GB data in two weeks, then two weeks later they said we couldn't.
In the end we just called T-Mobile CS the next day who transferred our numbers and changed our phone plans with no fuss at all. Now we never bother dealing with the T-Mobile store in person, my girlfriend gets pissed off just thinking about them.

rosemachinegun said:
That's funny, we've had the reverse experience.
The T-Mobile store people have frequently lied to us. When we signed up during their Valentine's Day deal they lied about the plan requirements, they lied about transferring our old phone numbers to T-Mobile that day, they told us we could downgrade from unlimited talk and 5GB data in two weeks, then two weeks later they said we couldn't.
In the end we just called T-Mobile CS the next day who transferred our numbers and changed our phone plans with no fuss at all. Now we never bother dealing with the T-Mobile store in person, my girlfriend gets pissed off just thinking about them.
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service varies greatly from store to store, and agent to agent on phone as well. But I will say this that.if you know the right things to say you can get more done over the phone
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Its so funny how people think stores have a special number to call! They have a retail line they call but that's just to enter their dealer codes they get to the same place u get to when u call!
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AJ26T said:
Its so funny how people think stores have a special number to call! They have a retail line they call but that's just to enter their dealer codes they get to the same place u get to when u call!
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Sprint Rant

Long story, but I switched to Sprint from Verizon back in March after ten years. I purchased the White Epic Touch and sure enough my problems began. I had the phone 28 days and my screen goes out. Bam 35.00 for a refurb. I have that phone for 3 months and take ICS update. Everytime I plugged it to the charger my phone would overheat. Bam 35.00 fee for the tech to do factory reset and have the same problems when I left. I woke up two weeks ago to a black screen. No response. Bam 35.00 and they sent me a new one. I woke up today with a dim screen and find out my screen is burning out so these idiots try to charge me another 35.00 and I said no way! So after arguing with Sprint for about 4 hours they finally replace it then kindly say the phone is on backorder and it could be up to 30 days to receive it. I ask if they have any black ones in stock and they basically tell me im screwed until my name pops up om the list and a phone becomes available. I dunno, but this old boys about to take his 4 lines back to Verizon. More expensive and less hassle. Sprint is so lacking I never imagined. I knew there network was bad, but figured they made up for it elsewhere. Guess not! I figured up that since march I have spent around 21 hours in the Sprint store. I also figure that all those fees had I known I could have sold this one added that amount to what I have gave Sprint for a Gs3. Sad
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ranup112 said:
Long story, but I switched to Sprint from Verizon back in March after ten years. I purchased the White Epic Touch and sure enough my problems began. I had the phone 28 days and my screen goes out. Bam 35.00 for a refurb. I have that phone for 3 months and take ICS update. Everytime I plugged it to the charger my phone would overheat. Bam 35.00 fee for the tech to do factory reset and have the same problems when I left. I woke up two weeks ago to a black screen. No response. Bam 35.00 and they sent me a new one. I woke up today with a dim screen and find out my screen is burning out so these idiots try to charge me another 35.00 and I said no way! So after arguing with Sprint for about 4 hours they finally replace it then kindly say the phone is on backorder and it could be up to 30 days to receive it. I ask if they have any black ones in stock and they basically tell me im screwed until my name pops up om the list and a phone becomes available. I dunno, but this old boys about to take his 4 lines back to Verizon. More expensive and less hassle. Sprint is so lacking I never imagined. I knew there network was bad, but figured they made up for it elsewhere. Guess not! I figured up that since march I have spent around 21 hours in the Sprint store. I also figure that all those fees had I known I could have sold this one added that amount to what I have gave Sprint for a Gs3. Sad
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Ok.
Why are you posting it here?

General Forum. Does this not go along with anything in General??
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ranup112 said:
General Forum. Does this not go along with anything in General??
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Mmmm yes... It's general but you have to understand we are average Joe's like you. We can't do do anything about it. It would be best if you take it up to Sprint forums such as the links below:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/
http://community.sprint.com/baw/index.jspa
Good luck!

ranup112 said:
General Forum. Does this not go along with anything in General??
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Yeah but what is your purpose? We all know how customer service experiences are. Some are bad some are good.
Are you looking for some help or using custom roms and see if some of your issues can be fixed that way? I just don't see the reason behind you ranting on a development forum. I can see this in sprint community forums. Thats all.
Edit: And I am a BIG believer in never switching providers when something is working just fine with original provider. I work in fios tech support and whenever someone tells me that everything was working fine before switching and I hate your service... I always think in my mind.. Why the hell did you switch? Save 10-15 bucks vs the peace of mind of working service? Not worth it.

BluesRulez said:
Yeah but what is your purpose? We all know how customer service experiences are. Some are bad some are good.
Are you looking for some help or using custom roms and see if some of your issues can be fixed that way? I just don't see the reason behind you ranting on a development forum. I can see this in sprint community forums. Thats all.
Edit: And I am a BIG believer in never switching providers when something is working just fine with original provider. I work in fios tech support and whenever someone tells me that everything was working fine before switching and I hate your service... I always think in my mind.. Why the hell did you switch? Save 10-15 bucks vs the peace of mind of working service? Not worth it.
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You know what's funny is 90 percent of the people that complain to you probably had to do a simple power cycle to get things working again.
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I'm a tech at Sprint and I think its kinda funny that every phone that you received craps out. I would say get TEP then you don't have to pay $35 for these issues. Don't rant about how Sprint is crap when you do not take advantage of all of your options.
Verizon does not offer on-site technicians . They would simply tell you buy another phone full price or go to asurion and pay a &150 deductible
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Well onley thing is I had one phone in 10 years mess up and they did replace it free of charge. I do have a question for you since you work for Sprint. Ive noticed everytime I go in there all the people in this store always have the latest phone. When I baught the Epic they had it. Evo LTE came out they had it. Now I noticed all three of the same people at this store carry an S3. Went by there today and two of them was showing off there Iphone 5 to customers. This is a contract store not corp. It just irritated me when the rep talked about Sprints cost going up because of exchanges on bad phones. There could be but I highly doupht these people are making enough money to buy the new phones every month. Just curious
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I would also say that I think the main stem of the problem with all the phones I have went through with Sprint is lack of qaulity control and proper training of employees.
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ranup112 said:
I would also say that I think the main stem of the problem with all the phones I have went through with Sprint is lack of qaulity control and proper training of employees.
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Sprint does not manufacture the phones , Samsung does. However that's why we have good technicians who check for liquid damage, because if we don't we send them off to get refurbished and we endup giving a liquid damaged device to someone else.
That being said that's why its good to be honest if you liquid damaged a device. But people would rather lie and hope a tech just replaces it , and screw sprint and other customers just so they can get something for free.
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ranup112 said:
Well onley thing is I had one phone in 10 years mess up and they did replace it free of charge. I do have a question for you since you work for Sprint. Ive noticed everytime I go in there all the people in this store always have the latest phone. When I baught the Epic they had it. Evo LTE came out they had it. Now I noticed all three of the same people at this store carry an S3. Went by there today and two of them was showing off there Iphone 5 to customers. This is a contract store not corp. It just irritated me when the rep talked about Sprints cost going up because of exchanges on bad phones. There could be but I highly doupht these people are making enough money to buy the new phones every month. Just curious
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I don't work for sprint but I used to work for cingular wireless and afaik the store always wanted us to carry the latest devices so we could 'demo' them to the customers... think of it as eyecandy.
In fact, I had my own phone from sprint and another device from CW, I was not allowed to use my sprint device for obvious reasons but had to have whichever device from CW visible and sometimes using a BT headset for demo purposes. If I can recall correctly, those devices were written off once another one came up.

ranup112 said:
Well onley thing is I had one phone in 10 years mess up and they did replace it free of charge. I do have a question for you since you work for Sprint. Ive noticed everytime I go in there all the people in this store always have the latest phone. When I baught the Epic they had it. Evo LTE came out they had it. Now I noticed all three of the same people at this store carry an S3. Went by there today and two of them was showing off there Iphone 5 to customers. This is a contract store not corp. It just irritated me when the rep talked about Sprints cost going up because of exchanges on bad phones. There could be but I highly doupht these people are making enough money to buy the new phones every month. Just curious
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I got 2 Epics last year in Oct, his and hers and had only one hicup in 11months, when the ICS update rolled out the wife wanted to try it, so she accepted the update and it did not go well, horrible battery life, apps not working weird charge cycles and a bunch of other fowleups, later I tried a couple of custom roms, but that was just a bandaid , phone was not a daily driver. Finally went back to gingerbread, the os that kept the phone reliable for 10+months with no issues what so ever. I had tried a couple of ICS releases myself and always wound up going back to gingerbread, needing a reliable phone on a daily basis I could not afford to leave home with a quirky phone that needs a charge every 6 hrs. I settled into a custom gb Rom that I have been running since April with no problems what so ever, wifeys Epic is on the same custom Rom. The only time we ever went back to sprint was to pickup a desk dock for the Epics.
Corporate sprint stores are usually more user freindly than privately owned stores, and I think if you go to a Corp store and plead your case in a nice manner you may get some satisfaction. The new phones the employees flash are just perks of the job, either huge discounts or free, don't let that get to you, besides it makes sprint look good. I have been with sprint since 2000 and have no complaints.
Give sprint another chance to make good. Good luck.
(No I do not work for sprint)
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Thats a good way to look at it. I dunno maby I am getting all the bad apples. My wife is still on her first. Im old and not going to say how old but I just got here checking stuff out. Never rooted or modified any phone.
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You see it was a50/50 chance, your wife got the good phone, it can't be that bad, just approach it from a different angle. Hay I'm no spring chicken myself, I got grandkids, and proud of then I am. (The oldest is 9.)
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Just my 2 cents. I got the Original Epic on launch day and never had one problem with it. Got the Epic Touch on launch day and am still using it. I have not had one problem with it. With anything mechanical there is always going to be the possibility of failure. It is just a game of chance. I can guarantee you that there are people saying the exact same thing about Verizon, AT&T and TMobile. It just happens.
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gatesmarch123 said:
You know what's funny is 90 percent of the people that complain to you probably had to do a simple power cycle to get things working again.
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No you are wrong about 90% just need to power cycle.
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BluesRulez said:
No you are wrong about 90% just need to power cycle.
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I know how technical support goes... I did both tier 1 and tier 2 for U-Verse. And it's actually 95% of customers are not tech savvy so they call in for every single issue including a Wi-Fi password. Tier 1 technical support is basically a power cycle then transfer to tier 2 if the issue is still happening. Tier 2 does ALL the REAL technical support. Tier 1 is just a filter, which can't even do that correctly most of the time.
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I know how technical support goes... I did both tier 1 and tier 2 for U-Verse. And it's actually 95% of customers are not tech savvy so they call in for every single issue including a Wi-Fi password. Tier 1 technical support is basically a power cycle then transfer to tier 2 if the issue is still happening. Tier 2 does ALL the REAL technical support. Tier 1 is just a filter, which can't even do that correctly most of the time.
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Fios is not that way. I know time Warner is the way you are describing.
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FiOS is a fiber optic network similar to U-verse in the sense that you support IPTV, HSIA, and CVoIP.
I know how an ONT works, unless there is a major issue that requires a technician to physically repair the line... it is a simple toggle or reboot of the CPE.
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Yes, sprint does suck, I've known more than any sprint tech or rep and they don't generally fix anything, water damage??? Seriously? Who cares if it's been water damaged, doesn't mean the phone won't work, that's why they have quality control refurb people... Yeah, I'm on sprint and I hate every day of it but ALL cell phone providers suck major ass and have you by the balls... I've been paying for 4g for over two years and have NEVER seen it and probably never will until my contract is up, again... Truth be told by the time I and the other 75% of America do see 4g from sprint, they'll put a cap on it and stop unlimited... If I were you and you don't like sprint, just keep going up through the chain and tell people strait up what's going on. If that's a no go, just change your prl and roam constantly until you get that "letter" in the mail... One rant to another, good luck...
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Learned a hard lesson

Thought my NFC chip failed on me, cm10/codename/stock rooted all wouldn't let me use NFC. Took my phone to Sprint local store, dropped it off and 2 hours later was told I need to go TEP route and was provided a tiny business card to contact asurion.
Called sprint later the same night, dude didn't even know what NFC was. Transferred me to a tech that night never answered.
Through xda, a member advised the NFC chip is in the battery. I switched my battery back to stock, and shocker, NFC was again fully functional. Really Sprint? Do you not know your product well enough to know this?
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Thats pretty sad on sprints part.

Well also pretty sad you didn't see it on the battery.
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And they wonder why their reps have reputation of being extremely incompetent.

The nfc chip is not in the battery. That would imply that every phone is capable of nfc with the correct battery. The nfc chip is in the phone, however, in order for it to work, it needs the antenna which is rather too large to put in the phone, takes up too much surface space. Thus, they use the battery as the location for this nfc antenna.
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There are a lot of "techs" who know absolutely nothing about how the phones actually work. They were just taught how to repair them by the book and don't actually think outside of the box.

THEY SELL THE PHONE AND DON'T KNOW WHAT NFC IS?! WHAT A JOKE. Why do they hire these incompetent tech support people that know nothing of phones?

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There are a lot of "techs" who know absolutely nothing about how the phones actually work. They were just taught how to repair them by the book and don't actually think outside of the box.
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yet those of us that actually know about this kinda stuff can't seem to get hired? Well I speak for myself anyway....
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This wouldnt even be an asurion claim in the first place....did the phone have obvious signs of physical damage?
Where you at a corp store or authorized retailer?
My techs are frigging awesome....but there are limitations to what they are allowed to do, and only as good as the training they receive.
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THEY SELL THE PHONE AND DON'T KNOW WHAT NFC IS?! WHAT A JOKE. Why do they hire these incompetent tech support people that know nothing of phones?
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Techs do not sell phones...or anything for that matter. They make repairs.
More and more its my belief that carriers are going the route of phone swaps though...and sending the phones somewhere in bulk to be refurbed. In the long run I could see how that would be cheaper.
Hearing NFC is still in the battery is news to me as well. I was of the understanding that after the skyrocket samsung moved everything to the back cover...go figure.
And I spend hours with this stuff lol
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00mred00 said:
This wouldnt even be an asurion claim in the first place....did the phone have obvious signs of physical damage?
Where you at a corp store or authorized retailer?
My techs are frigging awesome....but there are limitations to what they are allowed to do, and only as good as the training they receive.
Techs do not sell phones...or anything for that matter. They make repairs.
More and more its my belief that carriers are going the route of phone swaps though...and sending the phones somewhere in bulk to be refurbed. In the long run I could see how that would be cheaper.
Hearing NFC is still in the battery is news to me as well. I was of the understanding that after the skyrocket samsung moved everything to the back cover...go figure.
And I spend hours with this stuff lol
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Nope, only had it one week and is in perfect condition. And it was a corporate store, i dont go to retailers. I checked the stock battery and it does say near field communication enabled on it. So again, battery may not be where the chip resides but it does enable the feature if the battery allows it to.
The tech was one thing, all he did was wipe my phone and then reboot it. Worse was the phone rep that didn't even know what NFC was until I described it (he was still wary about it through the call saying 'try that option again, not even knowing how I was trying it out).
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dante32278 said:
Nope, only had it one week and is in perfect condition. I checked the stock battery and it does say near field communication enabled on it. So again, battery may not be where the chip resides but it does enable the feature if the battery allows it to. The tech was one thing, all he did was wipe my phone and then reboot it. Worse was the phone rep that didn't even know what NFC was until I described it (he was still wary about it through the call saying 'try that option again, not even knowing how I was trying it out).
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Ohhhhhh ok you CALLED tech support...my bad. I thought you took the phone in to a repair center. Sounds lume you did both? I know there isnt much out yet on the S3..pretty sure tear down info isnt even out there yet.
It still throws me off that someone would tell you to use insurance in a store. Within 14 days they typically swap out the phone with a new one. After 14 days they should have just ordered a new one.
1. From what I have heard call center stuff is farmed out. I hate that.
2. Seems kind of silly to me to expect resolution to a hardware issue over a phone call (just in general, not directed at you)
And yeah after reading a few articles It sucks to find that since my galaxy note on att I have been misinformed...the chip itself still resides in the battery and the antenna is on the back cover I guess
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dante32278 said:
Nope, only had it one week and is in perfect condition. And it was a corporate store, i dont go to retailers. I checked the stock battery and it does say near field communication enabled on it. So again, battery may not be where the chip resides but it does enable the feature if the battery allows it to.
The tech was one thing, all he did was wipe my phone and then reboot it. Worse was the phone rep that didn't even know what NFC was until I described it (he was still wary about it through the call saying 'try that option again, not even knowing how I was trying it out).
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Its Sprint employees like that that make the good ones have a bad name. I have been a Sprint employee (Store manager @ Preferred Retailer ASC) for over 3 years. I have watched other locations in my region fall by the wayside and have been nearly shocked in every way imaginable from some of the "help" or "suggestions" i have heard. I can say from an employee whos store location has managed a 90% CSAT average for over two years that not all are as "smart" as the one you encountered. I am sure you are aware of that but it truly upsets me to hear of some wannabe, fake technician simply trying to pass the buck with the "good ol' hard reset will fix ANYTHING" option......k done with my rant....thanks for listening.

00mred00 said:
Ohhhhhh ok you CALLED tech support...my bad. I thought you took the phone in to a repair center. Sounds lume you did both? I know there isnt much out yet on the S3..pretty sure tear down info isnt even out there yet.
It still throws me off that someone would tell you to use insurance in a store. Within 14 days they typically swap out the phone with a new one. After 14 days they should have just ordered a new one.
1. From what I have heard call center stuff is farmed out. I hate that.
2. Seems kind of silly to me to expect resolution to a hardware issue over a phone call (just in general, not directed at you)
And yeah after reading a few articles It sucks to find that since my galaxy note on att I have been misinformed...the chip itself still resides in the battery and the antenna is on the back cover I guess
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I did both, during the day at work I brought my phone into a retail store and left it there for 2 hours. Later that night, I called in and received the "huh" service. To sprints credit, they were very helpful an my epic touch phone issues. But I was also shocked that the guy at the store suggested asurion instead of ordering me a new phone, seeing as mine was only a week old with no damage signs.
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00mred00 said:
Ohhhhhh ok you CALLED tech support...my bad. I thought you took the phone in to a repair center. Sounds lume you did both? I know there isnt much out yet on the S3..pretty sure tear down info isnt even out there yet.
It still throws me off that someone would tell you to use insurance in a store. Within 14 days they typically swap out the phone with a new one. After 14 days they should have just ordered a new one.
1. From what I have heard call center stuff is farmed out. I hate that.
2. Seems kind of silly to me to expect resolution to a hardware issue over a phone call (just in general, not directed at you)
And yeah after reading a few articles It sucks to find that since my galaxy note on att I have been misinformed...the chip itself still resides in the battery and the antenna is on the back cover I guess
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So, does that mean we are forced to buy actual Samsung batteries for our phones if we want to use NFC?
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Dalmus said:
So, does that mean we are forced to buy actual Samsung batteries for our phones if we want to use NFC?
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No, just check that they are NFC enabled. I returned the one I was using and ordered a new 3rd party that will work.
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yet those of us that actually know about this kinda stuff can't seem to get hired? Well I speak for myself anyway....
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I feel like those of us who are good enough with cell phones probably make some stores feel like we are overqualified. Better to pretend we are herp durp until after we are hired as sales reps
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More loveliness for this topic.
So I ordered a replacement phone as sprint suggested the night I posted this. After I found how to fix the issue, I called sprint and a rep told me "just send the new phone back and you will be ok, they will accept the phone and you wont be charged."
Received phone, returned it in the postage paid envelope.
Last friday (2 days ago), I dropped the same original phone and the screen shattered. I placed a claim with asurion and was advised due to having 3 claims in a year they are cutting me off (dropped my, epic touch aniut 2 months before getting this one). Now asurion has 300 from me, I am getting my replacement tomorrow, but they do not want to invalidate my prior claim. The guy on the phone said they have to honor all claims and sent me to a sups voicemail. I call sprint and tell them this was a result of bad advice from their store and call center and am advised to call Asurion again. Wow. Wtf.
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Funny thing was I also reverted back to stock for the rep before I gave the phone (stock rooted). Regardless, if our a tech and should know about your phones, wouldn't step one be check the battery to see if it says NFC enabled? I could see if you can't get it to work after that, but...you're a tech. Doesn't help that the guy I talked to on the phone didn't even know what NFC was.
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Probly true....and I know a thing or two about fixing things....but before u just use easy out to call insurance wouldn't a better customer service aspect be "i don't know, check around as I am not familiar with the issue" or "i called Samsung and the said..." as opposed to "dunno, get a new phone"?
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Need help making a decision...

Hey everyone.
Need personal opinions as I cannot decide for myself -.-
Recently got a warranty replacement device from T-Mobile.
It's a refurb.. -.-
My old one had a weird smudge in all camera apps as well as in the picture. Really annoying.
Well I got my refurb, it's got it's issues, 3 "ink" spots on the screen, my original had zero! I cannot undervolt by more than 25mA. My original could under volt by 150 across the board. The refurb gets very hot (approximately 100 degrees Fahrenheit with normal use) my original hardly ever broke 90. And my battery life is freaking **** with this new device. (I'm guessing heat is the issue here)
I'm really ****ing upset. Excuse my language..
The decision I cannot make is this.
Do I request T-Mobile to ship my original device back to me(it's still in transit just dropped it off today), and either 1 deal with the camera smudge, or 2 take apart both devices and swap the camera modules?
I looked all over YouTube, I cannot find anyone saying there is a warranty sticker covering any screws.
Does anyone know if they can tell if the device was disassembled? I have professional tools so I won't leave markings behind.
Simply put, I hate this "new" device.
I don't understand why companies give refurbished devices for warranty when I am paying full price for a brand new device that should last at least a year. It's not my fault something happened that was out of my control..
Thanks for putting up with my rant lol.
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Wow, that's though. I send in my Device to samsung for a fix, and they fixed it with a "replaced PBA" comment, but I saw some people say they just send another one. Hopefully it's not a refurbished. I doubt they will be able to cancel the shipping, but if they an, most definitely swap the camera modules. Having those problems on the refurbished sucks. I could have fixed mine but I sent it in hoping Id get another one which didn't die after 2.5Hrs screen on time and 12 hours running time. Switch out the cameras if possible. I myself, if I get a bad one on saturday, I'll hate my descision but Im going to go for the 16GB nexus 4. Hate the limited storage and the on screen buttons that get in the way, but heck I'm not going to live 2 years with a faulty device

elesbb said:
Hey everyone.
Need personal opinions as I cannot decide for myself -.-
Recently got a warranty replacement device from T-Mobile.
It's a refurb.. -.-
My old one had a weird smudge in all camera apps as well as in the picture. Really annoying.
Well I got my refurb, it's got it's issues, 3 "ink" spots on the screen, my original had zero! I cannot undervolt by more than 25mA. My original could under volt by 150 across the board. The refurb gets very hot (approximately 100 degrees Fahrenheit with normal use) my original hardly ever broke 90. And my battery life is freaking **** with this new device. (I'm guessing heat is the issue here)
I'm really ****ing upset. Excuse my language..
The decision I cannot make is this.
Do I request T-Mobile to ship my original device back to me(it's still in transit just dropped it off today), and either 1 deal with the camera smudge, or 2 take apart both devices and swap the camera modules?
I looked all over YouTube, I cannot find anyone saying there is a warranty sticker covering any screws.
Does anyone know if they can tell if the device was disassembled? I have professional tools so I won't leave markings behind.
Simply put, I hate this "new" device.
I don't understand why companies give refurbished devices for warranty when I am paying full price for a brand new device that should last at least a year. It's not my fault something happened that was out of my control..
Thanks for putting up with my rant lol.
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I can understand your frustration With my experience working foe Tmobile and having done countless warranty exchanges since the my touch, they will not return your original device. Unless you cannsomehowncontact ups and have them stop transit and send it back and return the one they sent you. You should contact tkobile again and tell them what happened. Afaik they will not return it back to you. When it gets to their processing center it'll get factory reset, processed and possibly put back up as a refurb if it passes all their tests. You do have the option of requesting another warranty exchange, possibly going to retention this time or a higher tier of tech support.
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monkeypaws said:
I can understand your frustration With my experience working foe Tmobile and having done countless warranty exchanges since the my touch, they will not return your original device. Unless you cannsomehowncontact ups and have them stop transit and send it back and return the one they sent you. You should contact tkobile again and tell them what happened. Afaik they will not return it back to you. When it gets to their processing center it'll get factory reset, processed and possibly put back up as a refurb if it passes all their tests. You do have the option of requesting another warranty exchange, possibly going to retention this time or a higher tier of tech support.
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Thanks for the reply. I was wishing to talk to someone who works for them. I really hate the newer one they sent me. No matter what ROM, kernel, modem it lasts at most about 8 hours 2 hours screen on time. And the phone gets almost too hot to hold . If I didn't have an otter box, i prolly wouldn't be able to hold it. And the worst part is is the freaking screen spots. I get its a known issue with the super amoled but Christ the phones not been released even a year! Not to mention the o e I paid full price for was/is flawless despite the camera smudge.
I'm calling them today after work and am not going to be as nice as I usually am.. I hate this ****..
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elesbb said:
Thanks for the reply. I was wishing to talk to someone who works for them. I really hate the newer one they sent me. No matter what ROM, kernel, modem it lasts at most about 8 hours 2 hours screen on time. And the phone gets almost too hot to hold . If I didn't have an otter box, i prolly wouldn't be able to hold it. And the worst part is is the freaking screen spots. I get its a known issue with the super amoled but Christ the phones not been released even a year! Not to mention the o e I paid full price for was/is flawless despite the camera smudge.
I'm calling them today after work and am not going to be as nice as I usually am.. I hate this ****..
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I'd do that too. With the sgs2 I went through five warranty exchanges. They wouldn't offer me anything else because apparently it was the best phone they had even though they had the presale of the sgs3 going on when this happened. That's what drove me to sell it and buy a gnex. Long story short in back here.
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I'd do that too. With the sgs2 I went through five warranty exchanges. They wouldn't offer me anything else because apparently it was the best phone they had even though they had the presale of the sgs3 going on when this happened. That's what drove me to sell it and buy a gnex. Long story short in back here.
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So they want me to send this one back, and when they receive it, they will send another one back..
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If I get the original one back, does anyone know if they can tell I had it apart?
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I feel your pain. They pulled the same refurbished bs on me before too. And a buddy of mine on Verizon got sent back a completely different (and lower end) refurbished phone with their insurance.
I know it doesn't help your current situation, but for your next phone I suggest you check out Square Trade. They actually treat you right & are fair and honest. Only thing is they don't cover theft. But I know they WON'T send you back a freaking refurbished phone. I used them once and they were great.
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MotorcycleKopp said:
I feel your pain. They pulled the same refurbished bs on me before too. And a buddy of mine on Verizon got sent back a completely different (and lower end) refurbished phone with their insurance.
I know it doesn't help your current situation, but for your next phone I suggest you check out Square Trade. They actually treat you right & are fair and honest. Only thing is they don't cover theft. But I know they WON'T send you back a freaking refurbished phone. I used them once and they were great.
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Next phone I'm saying efff you to everyone. No warranty for me, no insurance either. I'm fixing it myself. Either way I'm losing money.
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elesbb said:
So they want me to send this one back, and when they receive it, they will send another one back..
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Did you call? Are they sending your original back?
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monkeypaws said:
Did you call? Are they sending your original back?
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I called. And they can't send the original back. But they want me to send the one I have now back and once they receive it they will send me out another one. And they said they made a note that it is my second replacement so they said hopefully it will be a brand new device.
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[Q] Replacing a Verizon Galaxy Nexus

Hello all!
I read somewhere on the internet (not sure if it was XDA or not) that someone was able to get
their VZW Galaxy Nexus replaced or swapped with a totally different phone.
I've had my Gnex for well over a year so I can't get a Certified Pre-Owned replacement at no cost anymore.
(FYI, I've had it replaced twice due to radio issues)
My current Nexus also has the notorious radio issue (consistently bad signal, signal drop, complete service loss etc..)
and I would like to get it replaced with a different phone. I read somewhere that Verizon would compensate you with a different
phone if you had insurance. Which I do..
So my question is, what phones would they offer as a viable replacement? (hopefully one with better radios and possibly more up to date )
Thanks!

U would need to call the insurance place and ask them.
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Esteway.619 said:
U would need to call the insurance place and ask them.
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Indeed. I'll shall do this tomorrow.
By the way, nice work on the MIUI port. Pretty smooth stuff :good:

iOSfails said:
Indeed. I'll shall do this tomorrow.
By the way, nice work on the MIUI port. Pretty smooth stuff :good:
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Once you do find out, could you please post your result here as well? I'm basically in the same boat as you and have been a little curious about that.

raddacle said:
Once you do find out, could you please post your result here as well? I'm basically in the same boat as you and have been a little curious about that.
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Will do! I haven't been able to do it. I have free time tomorrow so hopefully I'll get some answers.

It's going to depend on what's in stock at the warehoues. If they have the GN in stock, you are getting a GN. You may be able to get something "similar" if you have had a few GNs replaced, and they have all had issues that are not your fault. But you will need to plead your case. Or you may get something else if there is no stock of the GN in the Asurion warehouses.

tokuzumi said:
It's going to depend on what's in stock at the warehoues. If they have the GN in stock, you are getting a GN. You may be able to get something "similar" if you have had a few GNs replaced, and they have all had issues that are not your fault. But you will need to plead your case. Or you may get something else if there is no stock of the GN in the Asurion warehouses.
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Yeah I talked to a rep today at a store and he told me to file a claim at phoneclaim.com. he told me it wasn't Asurion though. But it clearly is. Also, I don't really trust Asurion. I've heard bad news about them. I plan on calling Customer Care tonight after work to get a little more info. The rep seemed kind of ill-knowledged about replacements and such.
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This is my thread from a month or so ago http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317537
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cornelious1212 said:
This is my thread from a month or so ago http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317537
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Haha that's the thread I got the idea from! It is weird that they'd deprive you of a battery and battery door. I feel like Verizon makes plenty of money. Enough to provide sufficient replacement services. Anyway, I talked to a rep earlier today (actually a tech support rep) and he did a trouble ticket and had "network specialists" check the towers around me. Then they call back and ask me if the problem persists -_- what a drag! The tech rep was really nice. I just think they're afraid to pull some strings for us some (most) of the times..
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iOSfails said:
Haha that's the thread I got the idea from! It is weird that they'd deprive you of a battery and battery door. I feel like Verizon makes plenty of money. Enough to provide sufficient replacement services. Anyway, I talked to a rep earlier today (actually a tech support rep) and he did a trouble ticket and had "network specialists" check the towers around me. Then they call back and ask me if the problem persists -_- what a drag! The tech rep was really nice. I just think they're afraid to pull some strings for us some (most) of the times..
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It's not that they are depriving him of a battery and a door. It's that all insurance replacements are the phone only. When you send the "damaged" phone back, you take out any sd cards, batteries, etc, and just send them the shell. Although I'm pretty sure the Galaxy Nexus I was sent in error when I sent a Droid DNA back did indeed have the battery door, although I never took it out of the sleeve it's shipped in, since I knew I wasn't going to use it.
That's the one good thing about having a non-removable battery...you get the complete phone (in the case of the Droid DNA I had for a bit)

iOSfails said:
Haha that's the thread I got the idea from! It is weird that they'd deprive you of a battery and battery door. I feel like Verizon makes plenty of money. Enough to provide sufficient replacement services. Anyway, I talked to a rep earlier today (actually a tech support rep) and he did a trouble ticket and had "network specialists" check the towers around me. Then they call back and ask me if the problem persists -_- what a drag! The tech rep was really nice. I just think they're afraid to pull some strings for us some (most) of the times..
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Is this you're first device? I was on my third for radio issues. I just told them I would keep getting replacements all they wanted, one after another until I got a working one. I had to call back once to get a rep who would give me an S3. I have to say the S3 I noticeably snappier, especially noticeable when installing apps. I immediately put CM on the S3 and am a happy camper.
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Is this you're first device? I was on my third for radio issues. I just told them I would keep getting replacements all they wanted, one after another until I got a working one. I had to call back once to get a rep who would give me an S3. I have to say the S3 I noticeably snappier, especially noticeable when installing apps. I immediately put CM on the S3 and am a happy camper.
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It is my third device. All of them have had radio issues. I haven't heard from Verizon in 2 days so when Monday rolls around I'll give them a call back and hopefully get something going.
My friend has an S3 on T-Mobile and he has it rooted and its so snappy and smooth. I want.
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Is this you're first device? I was on my third for radio issues. I just told them I would keep getting replacements all they wanted, one after another until I got a working one. I had to call back once to get a rep who would give me an S3. I have to say the S3 I noticeably snappier, especially noticeable when installing apps. I immediately put CM on the S3 and am a happy camper.
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I am on my 3rd Gnex for the same various issues like radio and also charging problems. Did you call an 800 numbers? If so, do you have it handy and wouldn't mind PMing me details? TIA
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