Has anyone tried any ROM's with 3.5/beats audio for the htc desire z or G2 vision, and can give me a summary of there experience, any changes to call quality/loudness? What changes in the playback of music? Anything else changed? Any new apps?
I didn't notice any difference. There isn't a lot it would improve on our phone I don't think...older hardware and all. Try it out for yourself is the only way to really know
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I don't think Beats' phones actually come with different audio hardware. It's just a sound profile that emphasizes certain tones. It's an Equalizer preset if you will.
thanks for the reply guys! Will give it a try soon!
yea the best software in the world can't make older hardware sound that much better. I imagined it would be just equalizer optimizations and such. Maybe cleaner and more efficient codecs or something.
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Happy owner of a Focus here:
Just have a quick question regarding sound settings or an equalizer of some sort in WP7 - unfortunately I think I have the answer after a brief search. Is there no way to at least bump up the bass settings? When listening to music, sound comes out a little "low" for my tastes (but not unacceptable). When watching video however, the sound comes out really low, even when maxed out.
Can anyone confirm there's no way to adjust this in WP7 settings?
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Happy owner of a Focus here:
Just have a quick question regarding sound settings or an equalizer of some sort in WP7 - unfortunately I think I have the answer after a brief search. Is there no way to at least bump up the bass settings? When listening to music, sound comes out a little "low" for my tastes (but not unacceptable). When watching video however, the sound comes out really low, even when maxed out.
Can anyone confirm there's no way to adjust this in WP7 settings?
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Yeah, HTC have an app where you can do that so either we need to wait for an app (don't know if that would happen as HTC would get special access to the phone probably)
Interesting... I guess it's more likely that MS or Samsung would put something out?
yea only for HTC devices.. like when u open market using a htc you would see HTC apps.. eq its there.. does help on my hd7...a lot...but hey u have a lot more features/settings to play on your camera than i do.. hd7 is very limited .
Anyone know of a mod or app to increase the volume output on my desire hd. I also have a Samsung galaxy s and the volume on that is double that of my desire hd.
I also keep missing calls because the max volume isn't high enough.
Cheers Dan
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you can use DSPmanager if your phone is rooted. DSPmanager helps to increase the volume for calls, media etc.... there is a thread about it on the HTC Desire HD development forum.
alternately you can download a sound editor program on your pc, increase the loudness of the ringtone/music and upload the edited version back on the phone.
Thanks for the reply ill give dspmanager a go now.
Thanks again Dan
Seem to remember that ROMs for other devices had similar problems, and that it may be possible to edit libadudio.so and some other files, but since I'm not a developer I don't know if it is true.
Is DSP manager the only solution?
I often have problems with hearing what the person on the other side says.
This should have been reported to HTC, as I have not had this problem before with other phones. (Not even the HTC Magic)
But isnt it confirmed that DSP Manager drains the battery??
Dspmanager might cause higher then usual battery drain on cyanogenmod, not sure if it affects sense roms.
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DSPManager does cause higher drain some people have even reported 3 times the normal drain.
Than DSP even though it solves the problem for me, is not a good solution.
I have managed to live with the volume for a couple of months now, but I hope that there is an other solution on the way.
I have had this too, i can "fix" it by rebooting, or playing music with the HTC music player and then changing the equalizer settings (from dolby and back)
So it was confirmed and shown that Android 2.3 was to contain a low latency audio pipeline. I'm not sure if it's something that took place retrospectively, or could only happen with apps made with the sdk after that version, but I'm pretty sure it was mentioned that you had to enable a variable exclusive to it in the code development of your app.
The thing is, I haven't seen an application utilizing this feature yet. Is no one developing that intrigued with it yet, or what? Also, is this something that the HTC Desire can actually pull off, considering it didn't receive the upgrade and has to be done via custom rom?
Thanks for any input or knowledge given.
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Running Gingerbread Using the lg camera software I can video with HD audio AAC 48,000hz sample rate 204800 bitrate (quality matches my old Sony DV cam without the tape in) on 2.2 I could only record amr 8,000hz 12800 bitrate which sounds worse than the phone call sound quality.
Sorry if its a stupid question me and a few friends have just been wondering ?
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I don't understand it question
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ibrahima said:
I don't understand it question
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HTC has announced "beats" technology in their new phones that supposedly offer better audio quality when plugging in Beats headphones.
Pretty much a publicity stunt.
I think it's hardware related... chance for desire HD... but i don't think we Vision can have Beats working
What's the difference between htc dezire and g2 I thought they were the same thing and what I was asking to your question is can we get htc beats on cyanogen mod . Basicly can it be converted to an apk like a normal application would and would it run on my g2 properly running cyanogen mod nightlies
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Its on virtuous unity. Its nothing more than eg preset though
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Exactly what spastic said... you can get it for AOSP (CM7/MIUI) roms with volume+ app. But, as he said, its just an equalizer. It does make an inprovement, imo.
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What's the difference between htc dezire and g2 I thought they were the same thing and what I was asking to your question is can we get htc beats on cyanogen mod . Basicly can it be converted to an apk like a normal application would and would it run on my g2 properly running cyanogen mod nightlies
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Desire HD is capable of play Dolby and SRS while Vision is not... ROM like Virtuous Unity can make Dolby working for Vision but SRS still not work. That makes me think of the differences in hardware between these 2 devices
I've used some previous Sense 3.5 ROM that has Beats but not working or force close on activation
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Exactly what spastic said... you can get it for AOSP (CM7/MIUI) roms with volume+ app. But, as he said, its just an equalizer. It does make an inprovement, imo.
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Any flashable zips? Link to the app? Lol i'm running aosp and i'm interested cuz the lack of an equalizer sucks
It's probably useless, actually; I found something weeks ago demo'ing how the Beats software works on laptops. It actually completely kills your bass and treble when it's off and then makes things sound magically better when it's on, because you're comparing it to garbage. I would assume that's how the phone software works too. You'd be better off just using the DSPManager that's included with CM7 and setting the EQ how you like.
However, I know the laptops get a better audio processor, and I'm sure those one or two new phones have also has better audio processing hardware, which we obviously cannot duplicate.
its not possible on cyanogen, but it works on siulmagics sense 3.0 port. ill upload it tonight maybe. and YES SRS and DOLBY also work. beats makes a huge impact for me tbh.
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It's probably useless, actually; I found something weeks ago demo'ing how the Beats software works on laptops. It actually completely kills your bass and treble when it's off and then makes things sound magically better when it's on, because you're comparing it to garbage. I would assume that's how the phone software works too. You'd be better off just using the DSPManager that's included with CM7 and setting the EQ how you like.
However, I know the laptops get a better audio processor, and I'm sure those one or two new phones have also has better audio processing hardware, which we obviously cannot duplicate.
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Sir, can you suggest a great DSP manager settings for Headphones?
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Sir, can you suggest a great DSP manager settings for Headphones?
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Yup! It's pretty easy to do. Open DSP Manager, enable Dynamic Range Compression (I recommend Moderate strength). Enable Bass boost, select the strength you think suits best. Enable equalizer, and the preset closest to beats is Rock, but as each set of headphones or earphones is different, you may wish to tweak the EQ manually too - it's simple enough. If sound is too bassy, reduce the first two points, if too much treble, the 4th and 5th points. You'll get used to the feel of it after a short while playing about.
There's no perfect EQ that suits every type of music or every set of headphones. The best thing to do is play around with it until you get a sound you really like. Presets are a good place to start, though.
Wasn't there a beats_allandroid.zip somewhere? A flashable beats library that boosts the sound quality a little? I remember flashing that onto my Milestone, which screwed the original motorola sound enhancers, but it worked perfectly with DSP manager on HTC Desire Z, and the audio was better. These were still just libraries, not an APP, DSP manager still worked better IMO. I don't know about beats headphones though, I got a higher mid-end AKG phones - plays great.
I have done much searching on this and have still not found a definitive answer as to what the beats audio that is "built into" the phone and stock ROM do. I have found some explanations that claim it is simply an equalizer profile, but I am very skeptical simply because having toggled it on and off while playing many different musical genres, the sound is always much cleaner and crisper from the speakers with beats enabled, even though the consensus seems to be that beats mostly is only beneficial to those who listen to hip hop. I never listen to hip hop and would love to switch to cyanogenmod rather than stock or the GE port that I am currently using, but I really hate to give up the beats option. Can anybody explain exactly goes on when beats is enabled? Is there a hardware filter/dsp chip, or some kind of alternate amplifier that runs the speakers when it is enabled, that SW access to is lost when using an AOSP ROM? It has to be something more than a simple equalizer, I have tried using many different alternatives in an attempt to recreate the sound that beats gives that would be viable for use with CM, including viper audio, music fx, and Noozxoide. None of these truly replace having beats, and I think the video comparison linked below does a good job of illustrating the difference for anybody who is unsure of the significance of the difference I am talking about.
youtube.com/watch?v=dNnTOafdCos
Beats is a dsp chip. The best replacement I have found is viper4android. To get the full effect of viper you have to change lpa.decode=true in the build prop to =false. Change the ui setting of viper to expert and start playing around. I found that using the eq in combination with the impulse response delivers the best quality.
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Beats is a dsp chip. The best replacement I have found is viper4android. To get the full effect of viper you have to change lpa.decode=true in the build prop to =false. Change the ui setting of viper to expert and start playing around. I found that using the eq in combination with the impulse response delivers the best quality.
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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No aosp can't use beats because the kernel can't use the source yet. People have been working towards adding kernel support for beats on aosp. It may be possible just not currently.
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I used viper before but maybe I wasn't using the right settings. So there is an actual hardware DSP chip in the phone that filters the signals to the speakers? Not just a process loaded onto the CPU? Then I would guess that because of the beats copyrights, the DSP chip can't be accessed or utilized from an AOSP ROM?
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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While this may be a good starting point the best method is to experiment and find what works best for you. He forces viper audio which is something I never do and doesn't need to be done.
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Also, I have noticed that viper almost never sounds the same between roms, rom versions etc. I pretty much have to tweak the settings a little bit every time. I do use the same basic configuration with the exception of the eq.
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A good reference for configuring Viper is this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324454
Most people have found success using Carnage's profile.
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agreed, this is the closes thing to sounding like beats on AOSP and the Carnage's profile is the best by far. :good:
give it a try. OP
Basically all it is in my opinion is just a glorified equalizer. If you are listening to music, playing a video, etc. All it really does that I've noticed is make it louder and adds a little more bass. My girlfriend has an aftermarket Pioneer stereo in her car that has built in Bluetooth and listening to music through my HTC one vs her Samsung galaxy s4 I noticed a bit of difference in those between the two phones. That's the best way I know to describe it.
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Basically all it is in my opinion is just a glorified equalizer. If you are listening to music, playing a video, etc. All it really does that I've noticed is make it louder and adds a little more bass. My girlfriend has an aftermarket Pioneer stereo in her car that has built in Bluetooth and listening to music through my HTC one vs her Samsung galaxy s4 I noticed a bit of difference in those between the two phones. That's the best way I know to describe it.
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It is an equalizer, but in reality, instead of relying on software and using cpu power, it it's a built in chip that only works on sense and HTC GPE roms as the technology is closed source.
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