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[Q] Pandora One question

Does anybody know if upgrading to Pandora One increases sound quality? It says it does for a desktop but makes no mention of it for Android.

I have a Pandora One account. I have an option in Android app "Cell Network Audio Quality - with the high quality setting, music will sound better but may contain more skips and hesitations" Not sure if people with free account have this option.

_MetalHead_ said:
Does anybody know if upgrading to Pandora One increases sound quality? It says it does for a desktop but makes no mention of it for Android.
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Well since the 3.29 update the sound quality is much better since froyo. It was so bad I quit using it but know its a great app again! People always bring up the soud quality setting like it is a new setting but iy has alwas been there! I have zero issues with pandora now no skipping it doesnt cut out and sounds great even on 3g..if you are having issues try to uninstall and re-install to see if that fixes it for you..if not there is something else going on with your phone...maybe the rom you are using idk...works great for me though and im very picky when it come to sound quality...good luck

stevieraveon said:
I have a Pandora One account. I have an option in Android app "Cell Network Audio Quality - with the high quality setting, music will sound better but may contain more skips and hesitations" Not sure if people with free account have this option.
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That setting is in the free version as well.

sprink0281 said:
Well since the 3.29 update the sound quality is much better since froyo. It was so bad I quit using it but know its a great app again! People always bring up the soud quality setting like it is a new setting but iy has alwas been there! I have zero issues with pandora now no skipping it doesnt cut out and sounds great even on 3g..if you are having issues try to uninstall and re-install to see if that fixes it for you..if not there is something else going on with your phone...maybe the rom you are using idk...works great for me though and im very picky when it come to sound quality...good luck
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I don't have any issues with the sound quality, I was just curious if it can get even better.

_MetalHead_ said:
I don't have any issues with the sound quality, I was just curious if it can get even better.
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Oh. Dont think so, it would just get rid of the adds and give you unlimited song skips...

Pandora One does not currently increase sound quality on mobile devices... no matter what type of connection you have.
Would be nice to get that 192kbit sound quality like the desktop version.....

[Q] Sound "hacks", possible or not?

Hello.
The Motorola Defy, when used with PowerAMP, seems to sound reasonably good.
But... when you adjust PowerAMP's preamp and the EQ and get the volume to sound a lot higher than what you get with the stock player/media effects ... some songs sound distorted.
On the other hand... I've read about the Samsung Galaxy S and it's apps "Voodoo Sound" and "Galaxy Tuner".
Those apps seem to manipulate the hardware directly (instead of software preamp & EQ like PowerAMP seems to do). Apparently the Samsung has a dedicated Wolfson audio chip, so I suppose that's why they can do all of that.
So... the question is... can something of this be applied to a Motorola Defy? Even if it doesn't have any dedicated sound chip, could the hardware be manipulated in some way to achive something like what the Samsung apps do ?
I'm also remembering some mp3 players that could deliver more volume, but due to local european laws were forced to lower their output power... and then some people hacked the firmware and "erased" this limitation.
What I would like is, basically, more power, more volume thru the earphones. Could this be possible for the Motorola Defy ?

A side-note..
I am always curious when someone wants to have their media player louder:
Why?
Have you messed up your hearing somehow? Don't you use earplugs or headphones? Do you listen to music in very noisy environments... while vacuum cleaning perhaps?
That said, perhaps you could be a bit more specific as to what the applications for the Galaxy do exactly if you want to mimic their functionality on the Defy.

I think he's refering to hacks that adjust the frequency respon or/and adjust the software directly tied to the hardware for a more hi-fi experience. Not just meaning getting higher volume or changing eq-settings.
Just googled real quick and come cross this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735918
Sent from my MOTO Defy

I don't know of any mods/hacks but PowerAMP is able to play flac files.

Cyanogenmod includes a dsp app.
It has equalizer etc. pp.
You can also use it on other roms with root, afaik... (had it on hd2 sense rom) just google.

naenee said:
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Why?
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That said, perhaps you could be a bit more specific as to what the applications for the Galaxy do exactly if you want to mimic their functionality on the Defy.
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I wan't my music played louder because... I wan't it played louder.
OK, I'll explain it to satisfy your curiosity
I usually play music when I'm working in loud or busy environments and I need to "focus" (intended pun, as I'm a photographer). I can't use canal earphones, so I sometimes need to use higher volume levels... wich the Defy doesn't seem to have, or at least not without distortion/clipping.
Regarding being more specific... don't you find specific enough the names of the 2 apps I've already given ?
Voodoo Sound
Galaxy Tuner
They work together and can adjust the Galaxy's headphone amplifier analog gain, thus increasing the volume noticiably without distortion, or so it seems.
These programs adjust some parameters in the Galaxy's audio chip, so the quality of the resulting sound is apparently better than waht you get from software EQ.
You can find a more complete explanation about all the possibilities here:
galaxyroot.com/guide-how-to-set-voodoo-sound-and-galaxy-tuner
(can't post links yet)
I can live with Defy's audio quality, but I'd want to prevent the distortion and the clipping I get when using PowerAMP to increase the volume.
K r i ll e said:
I think he's refering to hacks that adjust the frequency respon or/and adjust the software directly tied to the hardware for a more hi-fi experience. Not just meaning getting higher volume or changing eq-settings.
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Exactly that. I want to know If it is possible to do that (or something close to that) with Defy's audio hardware.
domenukk said:
Cyanogenmod includes a dsp app.
It has equalizer etc. pp.
You can also use it on other roms with root, afaik... (had it on hd2 sense rom) just google.
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The DSP app makes software adjustments. It can't prevent clipping or distortion... it can do a better job than PowerAMP, at best, though I really doubt that.
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In short: I wan't to know if it's possible to adjust parameters of the Defy's audio hardware to improve the sound. What "normal" audio apps do is simply adjust the audio data via software manipulation, but they're bounded by what the hardware allows.
I want to tweak the hardware (or, better said, the software that the hardware runs internally)

So... the "developers" part of this forum is just a wish... nobody knows a word about this ?

bokeron2020 said:
So... the "developers" part of this forum is just a wish... nobody knows a word about this ?
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The "developers" are busy "developing" software and are not here simply for your beckon call when you want something made.

Erra said:
The "developers" are busy "developing" software and are not here simply for your beckon call when you want something made.
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So what's the point in having a forum for people so busy that can't visit the forum or answer any questions ?
We'll... at least you weren't doing anything important. Thanks for answering... though I expected a more informative answer... but, alas, you're not a busy software developer developing software.

[request] Audio Quality Fix during Video Recording (Auto Mic Gain Control?)

Would love for someone to be able to implement this fix either into an app or a kernel possibly. I can't stand not being able to record live music or really even anything with loud ambient noise/bass/variable sounds. The Video is pristine, the audio makes it completely unusable for anything.
I'd be willing to start a bounty for this.

I have the some problem, recording audio is useless right now!

Anyone? I need this also

if anyone knows of a way to do this, it would be awesome!

mrfenyx said:
if anyone knows of a way to do this, it would be awesome!
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I was reading the s2 forum on this found a app called Hi-q that has a mic gain control, however its just a audio recording app. Wish there was a camcorder app that has the same function.

bump
has anything come up in the past months to improve this ? I just went to a gig yesterday and came back home with great video with farting sound
saw something about GNex Toolkit having some mods for sound but I think it only runs on Windows ? (it's an .exe file). However if it's a mod I guess the specific mod can be extracted and installed on the phone using adb or whatever..

bump again...this must be annoying a lot more people

bump, still need this

Me too.

Would be nice...
Glad to find this one - Sad that there is not really a simple solution yet... bump

i just cover the mic with my finger while recording in loud environments it works for me xD

[INFO] Native ICS Equalizer in Play Music!

So... I am sorry if this has been discussed, but I just found an equalizer in the native music player. Everyone keeps recommending volume+ to boost the sound or a third party equalizer to get better sound, but if you go into Play Music and turn a song on, you get the screen with the album art and whatnot. I noticed the three dots at the top of the screen, so I tapped it. A menu appeared with the following options: Sound Effects, Show Options, Make instant Mix, and Settings. So I tapped on Sound effects. And there it was! I tried doing a search on equalizers, but the only results that came up were posts that had "equal" in the posting. I am not rooted, and I am completely stock. Just a heads up if anyone is irritated with the sound. Also, bass boost and 3D effect only work if you have headphones or speakers plugged in.
I didn't know if it would be better to put this thread here or in apps and themes. So I chose here.
Now if I could only find a way that makes the sound effect for incoming notification NOT completely stop or pause the music for the duration of the notification, I would be so happy!!

Sick find, didn't know about this thanks.

adamhlj said:
So... I am sorry if this has been discussed, but I just found an equalizer in the native music player. Everyone keeps recommending volume+ to boost the sound or a third party equalizer to get better sound, but if you go into Play Music and turn a song on, you get the screen with the album art and whatnot. I noticed the three dots at the top of the screen, so I tapped it. A menu appeared with the following options: Sound Effects, Show Options, Make instant Mix, and Settings. So I tapped on Sound effects. And there it was! I tried doing a search on equalizers, but the only results that came up were posts that had "equal" in the posting. I am not rooted, and I am completely stock. Just a heads up if anyone is irritated with the sound. Also, bass boost and 3D effect only work if you have headphones or speakers plugged in.
I didn't know if it would be better to put this thread here or in apps and themes. So I chose here.
Now if I could only find a way that makes the sound effect for incoming notification NOT completely stop or pause the music for the duration of the notification, I would be so happy!!
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Its been there forever. Its musicfx...its been known since ics came out :/.
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Yeah I just discovered this too a few days ago. It works FANTASTIC. but too bad it only effects Google music and not the entire phone audio.

Dsp manager is better. And when installed takes the place of music fx.
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Not there
Anyone have any idea why this would disappear or how to force it to be there? I have a One XL running the viper rom and beats audio isn't working (yes, I've plugged in headphones) which I don't really care about, I just want this equalizer. I'm assuming the presence of beats (which is useless since it's not working) is preventing the equalizer but I don't know enough about this to be sure.

dublicious said:
Anyone have any idea why this would disappear or how to force it to be there? I have a One XL running the viper rom and beats audio isn't working (yes, I've plugged in headphones) which I don't really care about, I just want this equalizer. I'm assuming the presence of beats (which is useless since it's not working) is preventing the equalizer but I don't know enough about this to be sure.
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Well do you have ICS as in stock ICS?
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The stock bass bost is pretty awesome, and the equalizer too. It's more than enough from a free tool

Sound still not loud enough sadly
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liangse said:
Sound still not loud enough sadly
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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1.Flash my mod
2. Flash AwesomeBeats
3.Set compression to extreme and it will gonna be too loud.
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Sound boost without root?

Hey, I'm finding the volume through headphones a bit low sometimes, depending on the mp3...
I've used Dolby Atmos in the past with other phones, but that required rooting, twrp, flashing.... I wouldn't like to have to do the same with this phone. Is there any app or adjustment I can make to boost the volume a bit? I'm already using Ex Equalizer pro, but I don't hear a substantial difference...
Thanks in advance!

Erjimipey said:
Hey, I'm finding the volume through headphones a bit low sometimes, depending on the mp3...
I've used Dolby Atmos in the past with other phones, but that required rooting, twrp, flashing.... I wouldn't like to have to do the same with this phone. Is there any app or adjustment I can make to boost the volume a bit? I'm already using Ex Equalizer pro, but I don't hear a substantial difference...
Thanks in advance!
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try Poweramp

Erjimipey said:
Hey, I'm finding the volume through headphones a bit low sometimes, depending on the mp3...
I've used Dolby Atmos in the past with other phones, but that required rooting, twrp, flashing.... I wouldn't like to have to do the same with this phone. Is there any app or adjustment I can make to boost the volume a bit? I'm already using Ex Equalizer pro, but I don't hear a substantial difference...
Thanks in advance!
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Not a solution - android newbie here.
Signed up to this website to troubleshoot the same issue. I suspect this is a software limitation imposed somewhere in the OS or added on top by the manufacturer, but I consider this a significant con on this phone. I tried listening to music while working out last night and it was just far too low to enjoy, ended up just going with my old iPod instead. I've tried out a few "volume booster" and "EQ" apps but the result as expected is just software based wave scaling that significantly distorts audio without actually increasing output power. If you are interested in audio quality, software EQ is not a solution at all.
I would imagine there would be a system file somewhere that can adjust this but that would likely require root access and whether or not it's in plain readable text is anybody's guess. Unfortunately this is my first Android device so I'm clueless.
I'll try looking for the application posted above.. let's see
update: poweramp isn't free, and from what I'm seeing does nothing that I can't do much better using VLC.
Veering off topic slightly, but is there a solution for users who are willing to root to the device? I'm asking for something that produces higher output voltage from the headphone jack.

serious_don said:
Not a solution - android newbie here.
Signed up to this website to troubleshoot the same issue. I suspect this is a software limitation imposed somewhere in the OS or added on top by the manufacturer, but I consider this a significant con on this ............ do much better using VLC.
Veering off topic slightly, but is there a solution for users who are willing to root to the device? I'm asking for something that produces higher output voltage from the headphone jack.
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Viper4Android can give much better output with certain profiles, but requires root and it's not advisable to root Honor 7X as stock firmware is not released by Honor yet. In most cases one will end up with a bricked phone or a phone without any OTA's

So... Nothing to do? I'd really love more volume but I don't want to root...

Erjimipey said:
So... Nothing to do? I'd really love more volume but I don't want to root...
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You have to search for a music player which can amplify the sound, most have it as a setting called "Gain". Neutron and Poweramp can do this but they are paid.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using XDA Labs

Erjimipey said:
So... Nothing to do? I'd really love more volume but I don't want to root...
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For music download VLC media player (it's free). It's what I went with for now. When you play a song find the menu and bring up the equalizer. At the top of the equalizer is a horizontal bar for volume, you can crank the gain up a bit with that. At 100% it will distort but you can get a nice little boost with it without significantly distorting your music. That's what I'm doing for now. None of the volume boosting apps system-wide have produced any respectable results for me, so for YouTube I'm still stuck with low volume. You can try searching the play store for volume boosters if you don't mind distortion for everything else.
On the other hand, I'm wondering if Bluetooth buds will be able to get me the volume I want. I have a Bluetooth headset but it sounds atrocious for music. Otherwise I'll have to buy a portable amp. Either solution is totally ridiculous IMO.
Honor 7x is a solid phone, even the gimped US model I bought. This is the only problem I've come across with it thus far. I doubt Oreo will fix it, so I'll be waiting until the phone can be reliably rooted.

I'll try VLC and see what I can do with Google play music.
Thanks for your inputs!