I attended An AT&T Mango Dev Confrence today! =) - Windows Phone 7 General

I attended An AT&T Mango dev Confrence today!
hay guys i was lucky to be invited to a press confrence today held by microsoft at&t and it was all about mango development!
because i was new to useing the live meeting manager and i did'nt get a chance to record any of it SORY! anyway all through the speach i did the only thang i knew how to do was take screenshots and post them in to ms paint haha!
so anyway i know i should have been more prepared but it was my first time attending something like this. Next time hopefully i will beable to record as I beleave thare are 4 more comeing sometime soon. Anyway I snaped pix on the most inportent parts of his presentation as he deminstated just how to take advantage of mangos new fetures! such as multitasking and how it all works and how you can use it in your applications and also how its limmeted to 5 apps i beleve and also how not to use it as you will see in one of the pics wich was the last question he asked everyone wich subject did we not talk about today wich to my knolage was B. Background audio so from thatt chart you can see the other stuff he did cover i wish i was a better wrighter and better at documenting this and i wish i had a great new video for you guys but i did what i could. im Not very experianced in vb myself most of my talent lies in graphic design but Im learing! are'nt we all!
anyway figured id up thease pictures for you guys so you can see how you may beable to implement some of the new fetures bult in to mango in to your applications!
i realy wish i could comment on each one but it all happend so quickly i was lucky to even soke this in!
hopefull you guys will go nuts on this thread talking about the pics and then I can learn even more!
enjoy!
most of his pictures speak for them self!
sory i cant say more i'll try and address whatever subjects come up and answer any questions best I can!
okay i will post this one first just so you know that background audio was not coverd in this presentation! That was my answer to win the prize anyway!
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jackrabbit72380 said:
I attended An AT&T Mango dev Confrence today!
hay guys i was lucky to be invited to a press confrence today held by microsoft at&t and it was all about mango development!
because i was new to useing the live meeting manager and i did'nt get a chance to record any of it SORY! anyway all through the speach i did the only thang i knew how to do was take screenshots and post them in to ms paint haha!
so anyway i know i should have been more prepared but it was my first time attending something like this. Next time hopefully i will beable to record as I beleave thare are 4 more comeing sometime soon. Anyway I snaped pix on the most inportent parts of his presentation as he deminstated just how to take advantage of mangos new fetures! such as multitasking and how it all works and how you can use it in your applications and also how its limmeted to 5 apps i beleve and also how not to use it as you will see in one of the pics wich was the last question he asked everyone wich subject did we not talk about today wich to my knolage was B. Background audio so from thatt chart you can see the other stuff he did cover i wish i was a better wrighter and better at documenting this and i wish i had a great new video for you guys but i did what i could. im Not very experianced in vb myself most of my talent lies in graphic design but Im learing! are'nt we all!
anyway figured id up thease pictures for you guys so you can see how you may beable to implement some of the new fetures bult in to mango in to your applications!
i realy wish i could comment on each one but it all happend so quickly i was lucky to even soke this in!
hopefull you guys will go nuts on this thread talking about the pics and then I can learn even more!
enjoy!
most of his pictures speak for them self!
sory i cant say more i'll try and address whatever subjects come up and answer any questions best I can!
okay i will post this one first just so you know that background audio was not coverd in this presentation! That was my answer to win the prize anyway!
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How can C in the 1st slide be implemented at this stage?

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How can C in the 1st slide be implemented at this stage?
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With the new Background File Transfers api.
Cool that at&t and others are holding events like this to help out developers get started on Mango development.

I hadn't heard anything about Background Socket, what is that?

Where there any professional developers like SPB, WEBIS, Illium Inc. Etc in the room? Or was it just the students again learning how to make another RSS Reader using the windows developer tool?
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Kyphur - How do you do it???

I know this is a new post, and I'll probably get flamed etc...
But, HOW DO YOU DO IT?
You were up before 5am posting a new rom (so no sleep last night).. went to work and still carried on answering questions (good and dumb ones).. then you've got enough sense left to make a good decision NOT to include an embeded radio in WMXL AND close the thread to stop timewasters (like me)...
Go and get some sleep bcos we need you... stop posting for a few days and just watch us get screwed up and sorted out without you - you've already done the hard work, without which there would be no discussion...
Hero worship, hero worship, we're not worthy etc
I'm going to be off the forum for a few days, got to catch up on work and sleep. PM me any fixes. I'm already looking towards v0.30.
Oh yeah, if you're getting more value from your Hermes, send some support first to XDA-Dev (this place is expensive to maintain) then to the guys who came before me and if anything is left for me it's appreciated but make sure XDA and those who built the foundations I based this on get their fair share. See the list in my threads...
Long Live XDA!!!!!!!​
i do have to agree!!
how on Earth have Kyphur the XDA-Devs team managed to turn my tytn from a slow WM5 pain to an awesome super speedy WM6 monster!!!
You guys are gods among mortals!
Yes, he is the man and all, don't say it too much or you will wear it off.
You know what I think we should do too? Send them some coin.
Come on guys, for all intensive purposes HTC and Microsoft where planning on screwing us by not giving us an update. Since so far their take is "Hell, you want WM6, then buy a new phone!" Yeah, like as if the TyNT is a $50 dollar candy bar.
Here come these guys and not only set the vanilla but are working on an improved version of WM6.
Even two bucks is better than just words --more is better, $5 perhaps? Show your support. I will.
Thanks for the work XDA!
You don't need to send these guys cash, they're made of money and are actually using multiple clones of themselves to work in parallel. Kyphur Mark I sleeps 20 hours a day, don't pity him. He has lost his looks though.
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Is this the whole developers team? I thought there were more of them. But now I see their photos I think I understand why they don't get out much... Maybe I'll use this as my today screen
vijay555 said:
You don't need to send these guys cash, they're made of money and are actually using multiple clones of themselves to work in parallel. Kyphur Mark I sleeps 20 hours a day, don't pity him. He has lost his looks though.
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Sorry for double posting the photo! I SURE didn't want to do that!
Caramba, Vijay! WHERE did you get that photo. Ugh! I think I dated the chick in the background there.
Ben
I think that's from one of the Alien movies.
Alien Resurection
vijay555 said:
sleeps 20 hours a day, don't pity him. He has lost his looks though
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I need less and less sleep too ... people noticed I start changing ... I have to stop hanging out on this forum and buy SE or BB pearl instead ...

Video Touch Flo Work perfect in B&B v4.0

I set up this for Tom, I am sure my space is about to have to add a server.
Touchflo like never before
Okay, I am going to let the cat out of the bag, I have been testing B&B 4.0 BETA'S for about a week.
Tom is very particular about releasing his ROMS due to his desire for perfection, he works day and night trying to get this thing right, but is working overtime at his real job trying to keep in good financial standings.
This is extremely difficult as a student as most of you know, so I feel that it necessary for US as a community to show this guy some support.
Meaning hit this
Now onto what you all want to know, this Rom is super fast, faster than B&B 3.7. The touchflo works as if it were native, not a single bit of slow down. Anything that you have a scroll bar on you can use the touchflo on, meaning EVERYTHING. It is simply awesome.
It is now my opinion that our device out does any and all existing devices.
The release on the ROM is pending, there are still a few small tweaks that need donedue to the fact that Tom is having to volunteer for overtime at work, bills must be paid...
Dont get me wrong, he will finish it soon, but the less he has to volunteer at work the sooner we get the final version.
I am sure Tom will be embarrased by me being so blunt, but I cant help it, this guy is working his off and ask for nothing, he only posts the links for donations after we prod him.
Here is a little pic of the welcome screen,
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Please be patient, another reason this is taking time is due to internet connection issues, the same reason I am posting this info for Tom_Codon.
Please continue post in the "Lets get a head start on B&B 4.0 release issues"
thread.
If you disagree with my post, pleae pm me, no need to post here and discourage others. Thanks and have a good day
Wohhh ..!
Nice Wellcome Splashscreen..!
Wait v4.0 and will donate to Tom 10euro.Sorry now my ACC paypal 0 money
Cool ... просто отлично.
Eagerly anticipating 4.0 release.
Does the ringtone manager continue to act as if it's always in Automatic mode. i.e.. setting the phone to vibrate everytime you have an appointment in calendar?
Looking forward to seeing what you've done Tom you really have stolen the show as far as the artimis goes.
Impressive stuff so far.
Please 'have a pint or 3 on me'.
Cheers
Matt
Good Call and Great Cause, I'll pitch in shortly.
We owe him more then just a few dollars and million thanks!!!!!!
Look Great !!!! In... Tom we trust !
I'm now impatient to try this new rom.
gotta be honest, donated for v3.7 and will again for v4.0, but I prefer OEM look for startup and welcome screens, just my input... dont like the PDAVIET branded welcome screen, but just my opinion.
Anticipating v4.0 soon! Thanks for the effort on this ROM, looks very well done.
The first i want say special thanks to [email protected] creat for me Blog myspace and make for me Video Touch Flo in artemis.
And Thanks all people give me support in past times.
I will release v4.0 Professional as soon as well..!
Thanks again...!
looks very cool. I too prefer the standard looking splash screens though, no biggy it can be changed once hte rom is installed i imagine. Whats the professional version going to have?
Eagerly waiting for this release, (just like the rest of XDA-Dev forums) Many thanks Tom, certainly owe you a few beers buddy!
Is there any chance that the ROM will be available by friday? Im going on vacation on Saturday morning and would love to have the new ROM in by then. But no pressure mate, I know that it has to be finished before you'll release it. Keep up the great work!
and now i'm confused
the big question is...
Do I install the official O2 rom and spend time making it work...or do I wait for Tom to release B&B 4.0?
Choices choices......
Im going to wait for V4.0, not putting another O2 Rom on my phone, dont like the operator specific settings.
I wanna the ROM 4.0 now, please !!
WTF?
thats really an Artemis?
Can't believe it! It's so FAST!
COOL
...though I´m still stucking my original O2 ROM I really appreciate the hard work of TOM. I ave viited his webpage and saw the "new projects".
Will donate, as or sure I will try sooner or lter one of his ROMs.
Tom: Keep up the great work
chandlercjh said:
the big question is...
Do I install the official O2 rom and spend time making it work...or do I wait for Tom to release B&B 4.0?
Choices choices......
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I can garantee you, mate... wait for the v4...
O2's rom is crap if you've used or tried v4!!
Really this is very sweet ROM... Just give it some time for the final beta testing...
Yeah that sounds really great. I also can´t wait no more longer for this great ROM. I hope Tom will release it soon, but take your time.
I want to see the video but i can´t access this site in the first post. Can anyone please upload it to youtube or something else.
Would be great.
AND AGAIN: MANY THANKS TO TOM!!!!!
Your are my God
Just wonder why we can not find it to download?

[Q] Any themers willing to put a old school dialer in their theme?

I was hoping you guys know of a themer, or can point me in the right direction....
I would like my dialer to look like a pay phone, big block silver buttons. I realize pay phones are a thing of the past, but I think it would be really cool looking to have shiny silver buttons on the G1.
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Thoughts? With that said, I LOVE the Call button and Delete button on the screen too like the newest Cyan Dialer has... would hope to keep that in there.
I think I am being boycotted from XDA, none of my posts seem to get any response.
You may want to read the sticky in this forum. Android Themes have moved/merged into a single place where you may find all the theme makers.
Prash, thanks man... I know there is that section now, but I thought it was for actually finding themes to download... WTF is this section for now? I figured it was more of a request/Q&A for themes....
I'm NOT a fan of the new categories/
@s15274n
There is alot of work and effort that goes into making a theme.
That's why most of the kick-ass themes you DO SEE are updated versions of past themes where the developer has optimized their images, added a new this or that.
You've not been boycotted, but maybe your theme idea just has not generated enough interest.
There has to be some kind of interest in this old school phone dialer idea for it to even be considered.
Even with that, there is lots of work to be done.
I'd recommend that you read the stickies posted about HOW to make a theme. If you are on Windows XP or Vista, it should be pretty simple. It's an easy to follow set of long complex instructions.
If you should do it yourself, you guarantee that NO ONE IN THE WORLD has this kick ass theme.
OrganizedFellow said:
@s15274n
There is alot of work and effort that goes into making a theme.
That's why most of the kick-ass themes you DO SEE are updated versions of past themes where the developer has optimized their images, added a new this or that.
You've not been boycotted, but maybe your theme idea just has not generated enough interest.
There has to be some kind of interest in this old school phone dialer idea for it to even be considered.
Even with that, there is lots of work to be done.
I'd recommend that you read the stickies posted about HOW to make a theme. If you are on Windows XP or Vista, it should be pretty simple. It's an easy to follow set of long complex instructions.
If you should do it yourself, you guarantee that NO ONE IN THE WORLD has this kick ass theme.
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glad to see that the people with a smaller number of posts actually know the stickies exist and know where to point people. maybe there is some hope for XDA.
and as far as the dialer goes. its mostly editing and changing png files. if you can find a good pic of a payphone dialer, you should be able to do this yourself or with the help of a theme maker.
Yo....If you find me a good pic of the old school dialer, I'll get this made up for you.
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f37/pay-phone-dialer-skin-27719/
Gonna try it using that pic. Should have it up by Wednesday night.
palosjr said:
glad to see that the people with a smaller number of posts actually know the stickies exist and know where to point people. maybe there is some hope for XDA.
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I've been a lurker for YEARS!!!!
It is only now that I have enough experience to share with others where applicable.
Started with my old AudioVox SMT-5600, Tilt, Wing, Dash and now the G1. Hopefully soon, I'll have the NexusOne
OrganizedFellow said:
I've been a lurker for YEARS!!!!
It is only now that I have enough experience to share with others where applicable.
Started with my old AudioVox SMT-5600, Tilt, Wing, Dash and now the G1. Hopefully soon, I'll have the NexusOne
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yea i was the same way for a long time. started with the old blackjack and dash lol now im all grown up in android world. XDA has come a longggg way
Here is a preview of what I've been working on, the images are a little too big, so I'll be working on that, and adding background elements. Let me know what you think.
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Here is a preview of what I've been working on, the images are a little too big, so I'll be working on that, and adding background elements. Let me know what you think.
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I don't have or use Android but that is sweet! Any way you could post some PSDs so I can make a WM version?
dwizzy130
I really like it, but think it would look cooler without the black background. I want it to look like you picked up a payphone and are looking at the silver face.

Windows Mobile 7

Hey Guys and Girls,
Just wanted to know if ANYONE has ANY REAL screen shots of WM7 yet.
I am very amazed that Microsoft have kept thier cards close to thier chest !
I hope that this new OS is something radical, if not....I'm going to Andriod and bye bye Microsoft !
They are making it look like the Zune HD, and also as locked down as the iPhone os..
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They are making it look like the Zune HD, and also as locked down as the iPhone os..
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If thats the case then bye bye microsoft !!!! WTF really !!!
I'm going to wait until the conference, and if they fail to impress, then I'm selling my HD2 and getting an andriod phone !!
rumours pt is that wm7 will not do multitasking
and that it will not be backward compatible with previous wm programs
but mind you that is rumours
vardig said:
If thats the case then bye bye microsoft !!!! WTF really !!!
I'm going to wait until the conference, and if they fail to impress, then I'm selling my HD2 and getting an andriod phone !!
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Yeah, I've been waiting too. luckily, the MWC is starting Monday of next week. I've all ready decided to Android, and it will take a lot for WM 7 to impress me enough to stay with microsoft.
Whats pissing me off even more is that while Android and to some extent iPhone OS are getting massive updates, WM is still behind in the dust and they're taking FOREVER to launch something.
I've all ready decided to switch to the Xperia X10 when it comes out in the states.
Guess we will no more soon, but it better be over impressive to get our attention!
Some screenshots from the device emulator:
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Nice foto
screen shots are only half the story....
These screenshots offer a glimpse of what Windows Mobile 7 could have been if it were released many years ago.
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so in other words, ignore them. Pointless. May as well posted a couple of pictures of a world map.
Gota love only "half the story" in a response.
vardig said:
If thats the case then bye bye microsoft !!!! WTF really !!!
I'm going to wait until the conference, and if they fail to impress, then I'm selling my HD2 and getting an andriod phone !!
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dont sell your HD2...at least consider this new UI coming out soon called TouchXperience before you sell...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631672
and watch the youtube vid there
chizzwhizz said:
dont sell your HD2...at least consider this new UI coming out soon called TouchXperience before you sell...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631672
and watch the youtube vid there
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That does look AWSOME !!! but it has to take someone who isnt from microsoft to come up with something so nice.....
These guys need to understand the phone / mobile business moves at a very fast pace, and making minor adjustments doesnt help thier cause. They are treating the Mobile market like thier Desktop market.....its not the same.
I hope the wait for WM7 is worth it !!
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I hope the wait for WM7 is worth it !!
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It better be worth it, or I'm getting a tg01. I don't think they'll mess it up, to much money to be made
you call those screenshots awesome? It's ugly man. It's something that would have looked great. In 2005, but not in 2010.
bazzix said:
you call those screenshots awesome? It's ugly man. It's something that would have looked great. In 2005, but not in 2010.
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He's talking about TouchExperience, not the archaic screenshots!
good bye android hello winMo
The device might be a mockup but the Ui which look like will have xBox integation could possibly be what we might get for WM7.
more : 1800pocketpc
Of course you could always get the screen shots direct from MS instead of 3rd party crap
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/imageGallery.aspx
or even a demo video
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/videoGallery.aspx
scroll down to the "Demo:Life in motion"
From what I've gathered Microsoft are just trying to emulate Apple instead of being inventive and trying to do something better. Disappointing to be honest. Again Microsoft show why they are falling behind as they have no imagination and just copy existing technology instead of trying to invent things themselves!!
looks a bit too dumbed down for my tastes.
Lets hope HTC can salvage it!
Mobile WorldCongress 2010
Check this out if your interested in seing what the new Windows Phone 7 Series looks like
http://www.studiosevent.com/newscen...&height=360&color=FF5500&width=400&height=224

Windows Mobile 7 for hd2 beta going to be released!!!

See what tom codon has posted on htcpedia
Hi guys !
Many rumor said microsoft was confirmed hd2 will not have wm7 upgrade , but look in this screenshot :
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What working :
Wifi
GPS
Bluetooth
....almost all working
What problems :
Graphic driver is bad , some times lag device
Thanks part :
My credit thanks to HTC HD2 Russian project guys ( special Football and MagLite)
Planning release beta version soon
Tom
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Source : here
Since tom has posted this, most probably its real. And he is planning to release beta version soon.
What do you think is it real? If so it is a very good news for hd2 users.
Note:- I resized the pic so that its clearly visible.
if you consider that the HD was at first a WM7 test device.
and now HD2 is a MS Test Device. I would not be suprised at all to see this released.
Just because something is not getting an "offical" release does not mean anything.
I am not sure if XDA knows what the words "official release" means.
well pretty sure we knew it wouldn't be official but a test rom is EXACTLY what devs have been looking for since this debacle actually began
I can't wait for the release and that means the touch hd2 actually looks like a winner for me as the first wp7s device
but some questions
can one flash back to wm 6.5 or are we stuck
some more questions but good news time to blog!
I'm thinking this is legit. I was holding off on buying a HD2 but if this gets released, I'll be running to the nearest T-Mobile store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836
tom codon has no reason to lie
its not even april fools day!
Dont forget, HTC HD3 will be announced soon
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I'm thinking this is legit. I was holding off on buying a HD2 but if this gets released, I'll be running to the nearest T-Mobile store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836
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gogol said:
Dont forget, HTC HD3 will be announced soon
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not before 8 monthes
hoss_n2 said:
not before 8 monthes
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im thinking about getting an android device instead.
very cool will pick up an hd2 if price is right. But will have to deal with edge as the fuhrur said. Maybe import from telstra.
What the hell? That's supposed to be the interface of WP7s? With those gigantic font sizes? One word per line?
What's the point of having 800x480 pixels if you use 60-point fonts? 5 lines of agenda per screen? Will it be able to display one calendar month in a single screen or will you only be able to look at 4 days at a time?
This is an interface for short-shighted people?
Hell, fortunately the people designing Windows 7 does not think that the people purchasing computers are 5-year old children, or 85 year-old. That is scared by more than 5 lines of text on a screen or having to think where to put their files.
I'm not going to purchase a new phone that is a tamagotchi for 5 year old children. Use have been using computers at home for 20 years, we're in 2010, not 1984...
Man, there are so many threads discussing WP7 UI. Do you really need to start this discussion here?
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Man, there are so many threads discussing WP7 UI. Do you really need to start this discussion here?
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I wonder did u ever read the first post? Its not WP7 UI, its real man.
jagan2 said:
I wonder did u ever read the first post? Its not WP7 UI, its real man.
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Did you read the thread? He was responding to the post directly above his.
Now there are also Youtube videos in the HTCpedia thread
well hopefully this is real. does anybody remember windows mobile on iphone?
Might be sensible to hold off from overly wild celebration just yet - I believe that if we do choose to flash it, there is no way back due to some fundamental changes in the bootloader.
Personally I'd be interested to have a look at it if I knew I could get back to something tried and tested again. Still, I'm sure the good people working on it will figure out a solution if we give them time and space.
I just hope it doesn't turn into an 'xda special' - a bunch of impatient ingrates hassling the developers to release it and then accusing them of being con artists if they don't do it in a timescale that suits...
RustyGrom said:
Did you read the thread? He was responding to the post directly above his.
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lol. /facepalm
I'm hoping we can get a triboot thing going. lol Eclair, 6.5.x, and 7 all on one device. I'd make panties drop everywhere.
Existing discussion here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836
Whilst there is a lot of speculation, it helps to keep everyone on the same page .
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Dave

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