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[Idea] - Personalized WM6 ROMs

Hi there,
Just a thought I had today:
Since the ROM chefs are working so hard and getting little donations, and since we already come to a stage where there are several stable ROMs out there, maybe it is the time to a new era - a full personalized ROM.
In my mind, a user decides based on his understanding what he wants: Cingular settings or Orange UK, Adobe Reader LE vs. Clearview, HTC X button, Fast or Large Memory, black, blue or white skin, their own splash screen etc. as long as these are free apps.
Then a ROM Chef cooks for him exactly what he asks for. User pays for that service (note: for the service, not for the ROM) 10-15 $ or so and everyone's happy. ROM Masters can cook several a day making few thousands of $$$ a month, users will have their own favourable version, XDA will be as busy as a market in a rush hour and everyone will be happy.
Comments are welcome...

IMHO, this is a bad idea. The chefs aren't doing this to make money. They do it as a hobby or something they love doing, and paying for services goes against what XDA was built around. Donations are one thing, but this shouldn't be about money.
Besides, the way most are building their ROMs currently, with a base ROM and then cabs to personalize, should suffice for those users who aren't up to cooking their own.

MS would sue them so fast it wouldn't even be funny. It would be exactly the same as sites selling 'backup CDs' of software for $5.
As soon as there is a monetary requirement for the transfer of ROMs it will get shut down.
MS puts up with XDA because it does not show up on their 'pirate-radar'. "Look like a pirate and be treated like one..."
Besides, I like it the way it is. If I am going to much with my phone I've got to learn how to use it. OS reinstalls on cell phones are not exactly something mainstream anyways.

unusedusername said:
MS would sue them so fast it wouldn't even be funny. It would be exactly the same as sites selling 'backup CDs' of software for $5.
As soon as there is a monetary requirement for the transfer of ROMs it will get shut down.
MS puts up with XDA because it does not show up on their 'pirate-radar'. "Look like a pirate and be treated like one..."
Besides, I like it the way it is. If I am going to much with my phone I've got to learn how to use it. OS reinstalls on cell phones are not exactly something mainstream anyways.
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xda-dev did show up on the pirate radar and was asked to remove the ROM's on the FTP... so we do have to be carefull with what we are 'doing'

In other forums (for other devices) you can build you own ROM by selecting what packages you want very easy, and for free.
I think this is going to be needed soon, as there are more and more requests about for ROM's to be re-developed with or without such and such.
Look at this for an example I've used myself. It's for a Blue Angel though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302335

I think the bigger problem would be support - once a user pays for a service he will expect and demand support for all the small problems inherent in the native Rom.
I do like the idea of the build your own application posted by Percz.

Couldn't agree more, good thought but bad idea.
In the end don't be a cheap ass, if you are using someones ROM kick them back a few bucks for some brew and don't be a cheap ass. They may do it not expecting something but if its good work you'll be using for awhile buy the guy a beer. Every little bit helps.

Percz said:
In other forums (for other devices) you can build you own ROM by selecting what packages you want very easy, and for free.
I think this is going to be needed soon, as there are more and more requests about for ROM's to be re-developed with or without such and such.
Look at this for an example I've used myself. It's for a Blue Angel though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302335
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Now I would be intrested in an application like that. I'd love to be able to cook a ROM with just the apps I want.

[Q] MIUI....anyone run this through a microscope?

I started hearing about the ROM over on some Dell Streak blogs and had a thought I was worried about...but wonder if I am just being paranoid.
Where is MIUI from? Is this in some actual consumer phone that is on a major network? Has anyone actually met these people that wrote this?
I see on their website that they are working with some of the devs here and supposedly have submitted the FM app to Cyanogen:
http://www.miui.com/thread-1687-1-1.html (Not much more than that page unless you can read Chinese which I cannot.)
I guess my paranoia sets in when I see things come out like this fully baked and being adopted blindly by the masses. We saw games just last year that were doing random calls and that was from a site people trusted.
Sorry if this seems tinfoil hatty, but really what better way to sink a trojan/backdoor into a ton of phones than to release a super cool looking bit of software that no-one is really going to dig through and vette? So my question is do people here really trust this software? Have the Dev's torn it apart enough to feel they know everything in it?

It's an AOSP-based ROM developed by some Chinese folks to make their phones into KIRF iPhones.

I at one point thought the same thing about it. I thought about where it came from, and all the jazz with the same paranoid mindset. Then I thought about it more, and realized I wouldn't be doing anything on my phone that would be of any interest to anyone. I'm sure its probably legit. There are other poeple that have had to go through and port it to English and more fun stuff. I would assume they have taken a decent look at it.

Just like that live wallpaper with the malware in it, I'm sure someone will find a rouge code. Im sure it will be viral too as apple fanboys would jump all over it discrediting Android. But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.

Yes, you're being a bit "tinfoil hatty." Google MIUI dev and you'll see the english forum from xda members that are dedicated to this rom's development. I'm sure that they have broken down most of the rom and you can get more information there.

phatmanxxl said:
But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
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I how you' re trying (unsuccessfully) to be funny. Here's a newsflash, there are android geeks, honest ones even, all over the world!!
Really, if the Chinese were trying to gather information via some device that millions upon millions of Americans would use (and no, that would not be the MIUI on Android), they would probably tap the ipod, iphone, and ipad - all of which are made in China.
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phatmanxxl said:
Just like that live wallpaper with the malware in it, I'm sure someone will find a rouge code. Im sure it will be viral too as apple fanboys would jump all over it discrediting Android. But to be on the safe side, I'd only use ROMs from here and other trusted dev forums, from devs with a good rep. At least you'll know its honest work.
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ROFLMAO !
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should i brick this phone

so im in my 30 days i wanted to cancel today but i needed to go to the original store but i didnt have time so now i droped my phone i have a dent and a scratch on my screen what now will they still exchange or return if not how can i brick

cudahy_boy said:
so im in my 30 days i wanted to cancel today but i needed to go to the original store but i didnt have time so now i droped my phone i have a dent and a scratch on my screen what now will they still exchange or return if not how can i brick
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I tire of seeing threads like this posted in these forums. They used to be a good place to actually have intelligent conversations and get relevant information, but now I see threads like this popping up all over the place.
First of all, if you're going to post a thread, PLEASE try to make sure you post it with much better spelling and grammar. If you have to simply take a second and check if it's correct then please do so. I have enough respect for the the posters here (their time, and sanity) to make sure my posts are not only readable, but also make sense, and I'd hope that others here do the same.
Second of all, it's somewhat hard to intentionally brick your device now a days, but NO you shouldn't. It's your fault you dropped it, so suck it up and deal with the consequences. Let Sprint actually put money where they need to (I.E. their coverage) and stop taking advantage of them for things that are your own fault.

Lonewuhf said:
I tire of seeing threads like this posted in these forums. They used to be a good place to actually have intelligent conversations and get relevant information, but now I see threads like this popping up all over the place.
First of all, if you're going to post a thread, PLEASE try to make sure you post it with much better spelling and grammar. If you have to simply take a second and check if it's correct then please do so. I have enough respect for the the posters here (their time, and sanity) to make sure my posts are not only readable, but also make sense, and I'd hope that others here do the same.
Second of all, it's somewhat hard to intentionally brick your device now a days, but NO you shouldn't. It's your fault you dropped it, so suck it up and deal with the consequences. Let Sprint actually put money where they need to (I.E. their coverage) and stop taking advantage of them for things that are your own fault.
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I don't like to post "this" very often but...
Completely agree.

Same here, grow some nuts and bite the bullet.
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MODS, can you get rid of this ridiculous thread??

XDA does not condone unethical practices, nor does it condone idiots who try and cheat and for all intents and purposes, steal.
Closing this thread.

Don't wanna say much but watch this guy!

I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp

Well, I can't take a quy serious who calls it Windows Mobile 8 and this vid is also quite heavily biased. And you will also quickly notice his main interest: good hardware specs.

I couldn't even get past the the first 40 seconds.
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Cant believe you made me click on that link and add to his view counts!

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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I want to thank you SO MUCH for this link, that clicking on the THANKS button IS NOT ENOUGH!:laugh:

"Windows Mobile 8"
wtf...
he also says that only "Windows Mobile 8" devices are gonna be able to acces gmail... wtf

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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Lolz, 40 secs wasted on my life~ XD

That dumbass deleted my comments...
u__u

Thanks for the lulz xD

What a moron, he obviously has no idea what he's talking about.
Android fanboy.

This guy is a complete idiot! Waste of my time especially with the Windows Mobile reference and the Gmail app piece. And he says Windows Mobile never compared to Android. It's because Android wasn't around when it came out. And they minimized Windows onto a phone in like 2000...Windows Mobile:laugh:

I managed to get a good 3min out of that before his voice and general lack of any intelligence what so ever got the better of me, forcing me to try stab my screen with a pitch folk when ever he opened his month.
I am amazed that such inbreeding still goes on in western countries, which surely must be the only reason for such a mentally challenged presenter.
Ill happily list anyone valid pros and cons of any device and remain completely objective whilst doing it AND putting aside that WP suites my needs best, why cant people who put them selves in that position at least attempt to be impartial?!
unless of course that was his sole aim!
To get all clear thinking people flapping about him being a complete nob.
In which case my friend, you have exceled yourself

I was waiting for him to start signing the Barbie Girl song.

renatofontes said:
That dumbass deleted my comments...
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He deleted both of my comments too.

he is funny,total android fanboy.
first he cry about wp7 phones that can't be updated to wp8 (that is actually a bummer) and hoe stupid MS is
and about 5 min later he cry's about 10 min long how bad verison is that he can't get ics on his phones
F*****ing nope if you ask me , they actually sould ban him from the internet and take away all phones he has , give him a brick to use for calling

Getting him an Aligator would be enough
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for those who are not familiar with it

This guy is clearly tripping on something. I found this video hilarious.

I watched about 40 seconds, wrote a vile reply that most likely will be erased and left. It hurt to watch that bull****.

He needs a Kleenex.

With everyone trying to sit through it, I decided to as well. Horrible presenter - not much in the way of facts or information, he just 'feels bad' about Win8. All I could think throughout the time I could stand was CAGE MATCH!!! Let's see how this fanboi stands up to a WP fanboi... err, whatever we call General the Destroyer [FONT=&quot]http://www.youtube.com/user/generalthedestroyer
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Seriously thinking of giving the phone back

As I'm within the 28 days to exchange.....I've kind of had it with fancy phones and might go for a cheapy and get most of the money back, they wont like it but hey ho

Cool story bro
EDIT: But seriously, WHY do you hate the phone? I have a One X, I hate the way its designed and the battery life. I don't like the phone but atleast I know WHY I don't like the phone.
Maybe the reasons you don't like it can be fixed with a better ROM or something?

Stu1973 said:
As I'm within the 28 days to exchange.....I've kind of had it with fancy phones and might go for a cheapy and get most of the money back, they wont like it but hey ho
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I would - I moved mine on to my wife who isn't fussed about custom/boot images/s-off/super-cid/flashing radios etc
I'm back using my Sensation and that's fancy enough for me for now. For me its better to have my modding freedom back.
And yeah - there is something to be said for saving thr £500 a high end phone costs. The functionality of a Desire C say is really the same at a lot less.

Agree wish I still had my Desire instead of all the risky business that is installing roms.

Stu1973 said:
As I'm within the 28 days to exchange.....I've kind of had it with fancy phones and might go for a cheapy and get most of the money back, they wont like it but hey ho
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What a useful thread you've made.
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No one asked you to answer did they
I wonder how many other "usefull" posts there are

Stu1973 said:
No one asked you to answer did they
I wonder how many other "usefull" posts there are
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Stu, no offence but just ignore trolls.
By saying "I wonder how many other "useful" (ONE L!) posts there are"
This is just going to make people not want to help you. Considering XDA is one of the most useful, if not THE most useful forum for not only Android but devices such as the Raspberry Pi.
If you don't find this forum useful, why come here and tell all us useless users that you "Thinking of giving it back". Why do we need to know that?

Wilks3y said:
Stu, no offence but just ignore trolls.
By saying "I wonder how many other "useful" (ONE L!) posts there are"
This is just going to make people not want to help you. Considering XDA is one of the most useful, if not THE most useful forum for not only Android but devices such as the Raspberry Pi.
If you don't find this forum useful, why come here and tell all us useless users that you "Thinking of giving it back". Why do we need to know that?
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Ignore trolls? The forum is messy enough but he decided to start a new thread to tell everyone that the phone is **** and he's giving it back. What is the purpose of the thread? I know i should of just ignored it but its [email protected]!king irritating. Wants locking.

no one wants to know that you want to give the phone back tell it someone in your family or so...but that's really the MOST useless thread here on xda...REALLY ...why the f*ck do you open such a thread, but nobody wants to know that? ....like cjm1979 said...NO purpose in open this thread...

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