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Could we get a Forum for the HTC Dream

Could we get a Forum for the HTC Dream?
The HTC Dream (HTC G1) is due to be released in September/October in the US and possibly Europe

I second that. Dream forum please?

The site admin (Flar) is currently on vacation, perhaps post back in a weeks time and something might be arranged

Cool thanks. While we wait then theres a Dream Wiki here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream

jagnet said:
Cool thanks. While we wait then theres a Dream Wiki here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream
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A Dream Wiki...? Is that like a wiki where I can get info on my dreams, like WTF they mean and why I am always flashing ROMs...
Er. TMI I think
Dave

mikechannon said:
just a quick off-topic to keep the dream alive!
Years ago folk with the TyTn had problems with a sticking "E" key on their phone. Others wanted customised small on screen keyboards and I thought I'd combine those topics into a wiki that could be regularly updated:
The Weekly "Weak E, Wee Key Wiki"
Mike
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LMAO
Dave

mikechannon said:
just a quick off-topic to keep the dream alive!
Years ago folk with the TyTn had problems with a sticking "E" key on their phone. Others wanted customised small on screen keyboards and I thought I'd combine those topics into a wiki that could be regularly updated:
The Weekly "Weak E, Wee Key Wiki"
Mike
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good stuff i was wonding if its up but its not out yet... when it does... my dream will come true... lol.

Finally some official info out today. It'll be released in the US on October 22nd. Going for $179 with a 2 year contract. And I think $199 for a 1 year contract possibly...
Its the 1st time I've seen HTC sell a major phone exclusivly to the US. I only hope us in the rest of the world will get a release or a chance to get it out of network.

jagnet said:
Finally some official info out today. It'll be released in the US on October 22nd. Going for $179 with a 2 year contract. And I think $199 for a 1 year contract possibly...
Its the 1st time I've seen HTC sell a major phone exclusivly to the US. I only hope us in the rest of the world will get a release or a chance to get it out of network.
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Hmmm ... that's going to make my next phone purchase a tough one. AT&T's Rapheal, or T-Mobile's Dream. Windows or Android. Doh.

Tsss, its gotta be Android of course. I like Winmo too so far, since its really been the only proper OS over symbian and others for modibility and such. But opensource Android (linux) has clearly waaaaaay more flexibility and will be my 1st choice.
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Can some-one rip the Amazon MP3 app, reverse engineer the api and bring it to Windows Mobile? How hard can it be? The underlying OS is open source, so the api calls can be easily identified, and it only downloads songs, so it cant be too complicated.
Surur

i'd like a touch hd WITH keyboard AND flash and android on it... the dream is nice but hasnt top notch specs... otherwise id like android (through haret) on my pharos

KyleK29 said:
Hmmm ... that's going to make my next phone purchase a tough one. AT&T's Rapheal, or T-Mobile's Dream. Windows or Android. Doh.
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Raphael. Mainly because Android will most certainly be recompiled to run on it, but probably not vice versa. They both run on the MSM7201A even.

Hey all. To dispel any rumors about the Dream (now officially the T-mobile G1) Ive added some more info to the Dream Wiki. All the info has been gleamed from the various official sources at the launch etc. Check it out, very informative.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Dream
It would be great if XDA Dev guys could pop up a proper Forum group for the phone any time

Windows Mobile 7

Hey Guys and Girls,
Just wanted to know if ANYONE has ANY REAL screen shots of WM7 yet.
I am very amazed that Microsoft have kept thier cards close to thier chest !
I hope that this new OS is something radical, if not....I'm going to Andriod and bye bye Microsoft !

They are making it look like the Zune HD, and also as locked down as the iPhone os..

TheDeadCpu said:
They are making it look like the Zune HD, and also as locked down as the iPhone os..
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If thats the case then bye bye microsoft !!!! WTF really !!!
I'm going to wait until the conference, and if they fail to impress, then I'm selling my HD2 and getting an andriod phone !!

rumours pt is that wm7 will not do multitasking
and that it will not be backward compatible with previous wm programs
but mind you that is rumours

vardig said:
If thats the case then bye bye microsoft !!!! WTF really !!!
I'm going to wait until the conference, and if they fail to impress, then I'm selling my HD2 and getting an andriod phone !!
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Yeah, I've been waiting too. luckily, the MWC is starting Monday of next week. I've all ready decided to Android, and it will take a lot for WM 7 to impress me enough to stay with microsoft.
Whats pissing me off even more is that while Android and to some extent iPhone OS are getting massive updates, WM is still behind in the dust and they're taking FOREVER to launch something.
I've all ready decided to switch to the Xperia X10 when it comes out in the states.

Guess we will no more soon, but it better be over impressive to get our attention!

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Nice foto

screen shots are only half the story....
These screenshots offer a glimpse of what Windows Mobile 7 could have been if it were released many years ago.
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so in other words, ignore them. Pointless. May as well posted a couple of pictures of a world map.
Gota love only "half the story" in a response.

vardig said:
If thats the case then bye bye microsoft !!!! WTF really !!!
I'm going to wait until the conference, and if they fail to impress, then I'm selling my HD2 and getting an andriod phone !!
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dont sell your HD2...at least consider this new UI coming out soon called TouchXperience before you sell...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631672
and watch the youtube vid there

chizzwhizz said:
dont sell your HD2...at least consider this new UI coming out soon called TouchXperience before you sell...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631672
and watch the youtube vid there
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That does look AWSOME !!! but it has to take someone who isnt from microsoft to come up with something so nice.....
These guys need to understand the phone / mobile business moves at a very fast pace, and making minor adjustments doesnt help thier cause. They are treating the Mobile market like thier Desktop market.....its not the same.
I hope the wait for WM7 is worth it !!

vardig said:
I hope the wait for WM7 is worth it !!
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It better be worth it, or I'm getting a tg01. I don't think they'll mess it up, to much money to be made

you call those screenshots awesome? It's ugly man. It's something that would have looked great. In 2005, but not in 2010.

bazzix said:
you call those screenshots awesome? It's ugly man. It's something that would have looked great. In 2005, but not in 2010.
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He's talking about TouchExperience, not the archaic screenshots!

good bye android hello winMo

The device might be a mockup but the Ui which look like will have xBox integation could possibly be what we might get for WM7.
more : 1800pocketpc

Of course you could always get the screen shots direct from MS instead of 3rd party crap
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/imageGallery.aspx
or even a demo video
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/videoGallery.aspx
scroll down to the "Demo:Life in motion"

From what I've gathered Microsoft are just trying to emulate Apple instead of being inventive and trying to do something better. Disappointing to be honest. Again Microsoft show why they are falling behind as they have no imagination and just copy existing technology instead of trying to invent things themselves!!

looks a bit too dumbed down for my tastes.
Lets hope HTC can salvage it!

Mobile WorldCongress 2010
Check this out if your interested in seing what the new Windows Phone 7 Series looks like
http://www.studiosevent.com/newscen...&height=360&color=FF5500&width=400&height=224

O..M..G WM7 Hysteria !!!

I understand that many of you are excite about this new OS WM7 but, to be published daily variety of subjects, which is the most And so on.
I personally do not like the new visual OS, but this does not mean that it will be in live prew.
I thought, not stimulates, and every day to comment on, something we are not clear.
Who can say whether it prefers WM6.5 or WM7 in that situation you've never used WM 7???
One is to watch a preview online, but quite another thing to hold in your hands this phone and use this new OS.
Only then can express relevant opinions.
But before that happens, all other comparisons and topics are to put it mildly ridiculous
Regards

did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it

kel16harris said:
did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it
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Its only adding to it because there are people around who can't behave them selfs..
Thats how the "Game Over" tread got destroyed..
Neverthless this is a forum.. this is where we discus things.. but in a well ballanced way..

kel16harris said:
did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it
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1st i was thinking to wirte it on some already opened Thread but honestly they are ALOT and its hard to choice where to write exactly.
The best thing is to open New Thread many peoples to be able to see and eventualy stop with this crazy hysteria till the WM7 is out and we can test it by ourselfs.

Indeed, There is now way you know if WP7 is great or not so great. The OS is not tested by anyone, only a prebuild seen at a conference more than a half year before release. There is nothing known about how open the platform is, what kind of multitask it has, etc, etc.
More than half of the treads here are from people who are bashing WP7, without knowing what it will be at the end. People who are bashing the HD2 because it wont have an official update, and so on. :')
We will know much more at MIX, and you can decide for yourself if it's nice, when there are rom's here at xda. (they will after all, also for the HD2)

You can't stop people from spectaculating what the new OS will be or not. But I agree it's ridiculous to open new threads like "do you prefer WM 6.5 or WP7" when noone never had the chance to use it before. I also don't feel very comfortable with the things I've seen so far but it's even more ridiculous to write things along the line "WP7 sucks I switch to Android" because at this point noone knows what the OS will really be in the end.

If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.

hyellow said:
If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.
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still no reason to overact on it. You buy a phone if you need it now. If you buy a phone that's meant to run a OS that currently doesn't even exist then it's actually your own fault, not HTC's or Microsoft's.

hyellow said:
If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.
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Why do they have to say that? Will they have to say there will be no iphone os, android or palmos update? When you buy your pc do they have to say it wont have an update to Windows 8? (juli 2011)

tsalta said:
I understand that many of you are excite about this new OS WM7 but, to be published daily variety of subjects, which is the most And so on.
I personally do not like the new visual OS, but this does not mean that it will be in live prew.
I thought, not stimulates, and every day to comment on, something we are not clear.
Who can say whether it prefers WM6.5 or WM7 in that situation you've never used WM 7???
One is to watch a preview online, but quite another thing to hold in your hands this phone and use this new OS.
Only then can express relevant opinions.
But before that happens, all other comparisons and topics are to put it mildly ridiculous
Regards
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I won a WP7 phone!!!

Sadly, I won't get it til general availablity and I don't know which phone. Microsoft peeps are still being cagey with it. The guy wouldn't even let me take a pic of a LG WP7 device even though it's been all over the internet already. The only real new info I've gleaned is that they will support basic exchange policies like pin unlock and remote wipe. Still going to try and fenagle some more info out of them.

WTH? Congratulations!!

cool can i have it?

Congrats!.........

Depending on what they say, I might just get a HD2. The WP7 device is supposed to be general availability and they might make devices available before then and I'm not willing to wait.

niceeee
thats lucky and awesome!

Remember to colaborate with XDA and help WP7 become more awesome .

Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release

cgigate said:
Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release
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After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive. While it may not on paper be the #1 phone OS, it is rather good and will put up a good fight. Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features. More positive info will come to light as we near launch.

RustyGrom said:
After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive.
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Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
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Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features.
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Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?

vangrieg said:
Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?
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I think I've always been relatively positive about the new OS. While some of the new restrictions are annoyingly restrictive, I don't think it'll be a problem for us. In one of the sessions today they showed off how devs will be able to unlock phones and it was just a desktop app that talks to the store. I can easily see this app being modified to just not talk to the store but I'm betting there will need to be more done than this. So while I still wish MS would open up the dev platform more, I somewhat respect the decisions they've made and I don't think it will be hard for the rest of us to have phones we can do as we wish with.
It was stated earlier in the week by one of the members of the WP7 team that only 70-80% of the OS had been shown off up to this point. However, after going hands on with a device for a while today, I didn't find much that we haven't seen yet. The whole thing is fluid and is super intuitive. It really is a joy to use. So I'm not sure how much is left to unveil but it seems rather useable today. But none of the WP7 guys that I talked to are using it full time yet so that's kind of telling.

nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...

Pics or it didn't happen!

Jeeze. Necro thread!
I ended up deciding to wait for a WP7 device. The HD2 they had was a european model and couldn't do 3G here. A smartphone without 3G is useless. So I wait til October like everyone else. But at least it will be free.
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drownage said:
nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...
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Not all the specs, AFAIK the chipsets in the HD2 do not conform to all the hardware specs that Microsoft has made for Windows Phone 7 compatibility. Things like the hardware image scaler for example are not present in the HD2, nor is support for hardware acceleration of the VC-1 codec.

[Q] HD2 Win mobile 7 Rom- when?

now where win mobile 7 has just been released and is available in the stores or better on the new htc mobiles i really wonder when we will get the first official rom from htc for the hd2? I really wonder why it takes so long, isnt the hd2 arichtecture comparable to the one of the hd7? i hope it will come soon...

There wont be an official wp7 rom for the hd2

charliess said:
now where win mobile 7 has just been released and is available in the stores or better on the new htc mobiles i really wonder when we will get the first official rom from htc for the hd2? I really wonder why it takes so long, isnt the hd2 arichtecture comparable to the one of the hd7? i hope it will come soon...
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Hmm, where have you been the passed 10 months? The HD7 is Microsofts and HTC's way of giving you WPS7 on a comparable device. You either need to get a new device, or wait for devs to port it.
I guess in the meantime you can enjoy Android is you are bored.

hi guys.... what about this?
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjE5OTU0MDY0.html
is this only a theme?

cuzzo94 said:
hi guys.... what about this?
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjE5OTU0MDY0.html
is this only a theme?
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Since there isn't a sign of another OS boating, I believe this is our HD2 boating WP7 .

can you get in www.xda.cn?
it talk of it in the first page but i can't open it because i'm probably too far away from the server... i'm in italy and th e web site is chinese
edit: http://www.xda.cn/newshow.php?snid=192 o.oo.o

This is just a rom with the interface.
XDA starting HD2_21916_3.14_Windows Phone 7 first to experience the full version of the Chinese Language Interface.
This is the version of windows phone 7 interface experience, not really WP7 prototype system, is still the core of WM6.5, driver version 3.14 for Taiwan, no built-in radio, the radio 2.14 in the case of available memory up to 310M or more, adjust the Task_Manager tasks Manager from the battery icon, WP interface customization options, including color, picture position, add a program, UI and editing, the specific operation: Press the right interface, while the pop-up menu, specifically, how games are played, there are friends to find standby
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From xda.cn

oh ok thanks

can any Chinese person from our XDA site ask them for the ROM? or just register as a tester?

Google translation said following:"This is the master of a successful transplantation of the disc according to WP7 to HD2, HD2 brush WP7 seems getting closer and closer to us"
can anybody explain this?

WoW they port it... there is booting video now

I found something about a bios, check it out here:
http://bbs.xda.cn/viewthread.php?tid=87823
Don't know if its usefull!

Woah! This is really impressive! This was been the best presentation of WP7 on the HD2. I "can" be fake, but they pulled it off very well if they did. *AHEM TOM CODON!!!
Why has there not been many hype about this video?
I honestly, think it looks legit...
what do you guys think? have they beat Cotulla to it?

I'm chinese...and also a member of the forum you guys mentioned before...from my opinion,that's just a theme of win7...not a rom...

I think it's not the true wp7 system because of the static main screen.
The video don't show us contact and phone mode, it's the same things for xbox live.
I don't believe theme.

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It looks like an earlier build. Have given it some press on 1800PocketPC

ok i dont doubt that anyone will be able to port it complete to the hd2, you guys out there are smart enough but what about the rumors i heard over the last year that htc will come up with an offical wp7 rom for the hd2? i thought this was an acknowledged thing from htc or is there anyy offical statement from htc they wont do this?

From what I remember, Microsoft has reported atleast 3 different times stating that there will be no release of WP7 on the HD2. While the HD2 has been considered a test device to build WP7, it is not worth their time to build a fully funtional build on what they might call an old device. There is also the fact that Microsoft has certain restrictions on what devices will support WP7, and the HD2 does not qualify under these restrictions. Since it is Microsoft that designated these restricitons, HTC would be unable to release an official build of WP7 even if they wanted to.
The HTC HD7 is almost identical to the HD2 in terms of hardware. If anything, I would think the best unofficial build would come from this device.
I also don't doubt that there will be a build of WP7 for the HD2 in the very near future

zhyx said:
I'm chinese...and also a member of the forum you guys mentioned before...from my opinion,that's just a theme of win7...not a rom...
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What do you mean? if you're chinese can't you read the explanation and tell us if it's a theme or rom? surely you can read the info on the threads.

Avalandiel said:
From what I remember, Microsoft has reported atleast 3 different times stating that there will be no release of WP7 on the HD2. While the HD2 has been considered a test device to build WP7, it is not worth their time to build a fully funtional build on what they might call an old device. There is also the fact that Microsoft has certain restrictions on what devices will support WP7, and the HD2 does not qualify under these restrictions. Since it is Microsoft that designated these restricitons, HTC would be unable to release an official build of WP7 even if they wanted to.
The HTC HD7 is almost identical to the HD2 in terms of hardware. If anything, I would think the best unofficial build would come from this device.
I also don't doubt that there will be a build of WP7 for the HD2 in the very near future
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M$ was thinking we would take way our HD2, to buy a new WP7s device......Crasy company.
I prefer to be a android embassador, to buy a new M$ device.