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Kyphur - How do you do it???

I know this is a new post, and I'll probably get flamed etc...
But, HOW DO YOU DO IT?
You were up before 5am posting a new rom (so no sleep last night).. went to work and still carried on answering questions (good and dumb ones).. then you've got enough sense left to make a good decision NOT to include an embeded radio in WMXL AND close the thread to stop timewasters (like me)...
Go and get some sleep bcos we need you... stop posting for a few days and just watch us get screwed up and sorted out without you - you've already done the hard work, without which there would be no discussion...
Hero worship, hero worship, we're not worthy etc

I'm going to be off the forum for a few days, got to catch up on work and sleep. PM me any fixes. I'm already looking towards v0.30.
Oh yeah, if you're getting more value from your Hermes, send some support first to XDA-Dev (this place is expensive to maintain) then to the guys who came before me and if anything is left for me it's appreciated but make sure XDA and those who built the foundations I based this on get their fair share. See the list in my threads...
Long Live XDA!!!!!!!​

i do have to agree!!
how on Earth have Kyphur the XDA-Devs team managed to turn my tytn from a slow WM5 pain to an awesome super speedy WM6 monster!!!
You guys are gods among mortals!

Yes, he is the man and all, don't say it too much or you will wear it off.
You know what I think we should do too? Send them some coin.
Come on guys, for all intensive purposes HTC and Microsoft where planning on screwing us by not giving us an update. Since so far their take is "Hell, you want WM6, then buy a new phone!" Yeah, like as if the TyNT is a $50 dollar candy bar.
Here come these guys and not only set the vanilla but are working on an improved version of WM6.
Even two bucks is better than just words --more is better, $5 perhaps? Show your support. I will.
Thanks for the work XDA!

You don't need to send these guys cash, they're made of money and are actually using multiple clones of themselves to work in parallel. Kyphur Mark I sleeps 20 hours a day, don't pity him. He has lost his looks though.
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V

Is this the whole developers team? I thought there were more of them. But now I see their photos I think I understand why they don't get out much... Maybe I'll use this as my today screen

vijay555 said:
You don't need to send these guys cash, they're made of money and are actually using multiple clones of themselves to work in parallel. Kyphur Mark I sleeps 20 hours a day, don't pity him. He has lost his looks though.
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Sorry for double posting the photo! I SURE didn't want to do that!
Caramba, Vijay! WHERE did you get that photo. Ugh! I think I dated the chick in the background there.
Ben

I think that's from one of the Alien movies.

Alien Resurection

vijay555 said:
sleeps 20 hours a day, don't pity him. He has lost his looks though
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I need less and less sleep too ... people noticed I start changing ... I have to stop hanging out on this forum and buy SE or BB pearl instead ...

O..M..G WM7 Hysteria !!!

I understand that many of you are excite about this new OS WM7 but, to be published daily variety of subjects, which is the most And so on.
I personally do not like the new visual OS, but this does not mean that it will be in live prew.
I thought, not stimulates, and every day to comment on, something we are not clear.
Who can say whether it prefers WM6.5 or WM7 in that situation you've never used WM 7???
One is to watch a preview online, but quite another thing to hold in your hands this phone and use this new OS.
Only then can express relevant opinions.
But before that happens, all other comparisons and topics are to put it mildly ridiculous
Regards

did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it

kel16harris said:
did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it
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Its only adding to it because there are people around who can't behave them selfs..
Thats how the "Game Over" tread got destroyed..
Neverthless this is a forum.. this is where we discus things.. but in a well ballanced way..

kel16harris said:
did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it
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1st i was thinking to wirte it on some already opened Thread but honestly they are ALOT and its hard to choice where to write exactly.
The best thing is to open New Thread many peoples to be able to see and eventualy stop with this crazy hysteria till the WM7 is out and we can test it by ourselfs.

Indeed, There is now way you know if WP7 is great or not so great. The OS is not tested by anyone, only a prebuild seen at a conference more than a half year before release. There is nothing known about how open the platform is, what kind of multitask it has, etc, etc.
More than half of the treads here are from people who are bashing WP7, without knowing what it will be at the end. People who are bashing the HD2 because it wont have an official update, and so on. :')
We will know much more at MIX, and you can decide for yourself if it's nice, when there are rom's here at xda. (they will after all, also for the HD2)

You can't stop people from spectaculating what the new OS will be or not. But I agree it's ridiculous to open new threads like "do you prefer WM 6.5 or WP7" when noone never had the chance to use it before. I also don't feel very comfortable with the things I've seen so far but it's even more ridiculous to write things along the line "WP7 sucks I switch to Android" because at this point noone knows what the OS will really be in the end.

If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.

hyellow said:
If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.
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still no reason to overact on it. You buy a phone if you need it now. If you buy a phone that's meant to run a OS that currently doesn't even exist then it's actually your own fault, not HTC's or Microsoft's.

hyellow said:
If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.
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Why do they have to say that? Will they have to say there will be no iphone os, android or palmos update? When you buy your pc do they have to say it wont have an update to Windows 8? (juli 2011)

tsalta said:
I understand that many of you are excite about this new OS WM7 but, to be published daily variety of subjects, which is the most And so on.
I personally do not like the new visual OS, but this does not mean that it will be in live prew.
I thought, not stimulates, and every day to comment on, something we are not clear.
Who can say whether it prefers WM6.5 or WM7 in that situation you've never used WM 7???
One is to watch a preview online, but quite another thing to hold in your hands this phone and use this new OS.
Only then can express relevant opinions.
But before that happens, all other comparisons and topics are to put it mildly ridiculous
Regards
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Windows Mobile 7 for hd2 beta going to be released!!!

See what tom codon has posted on htcpedia
Hi guys !
Many rumor said microsoft was confirmed hd2 will not have wm7 upgrade , but look in this screenshot :
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What working :
Wifi
GPS
Bluetooth
....almost all working
What problems :
Graphic driver is bad , some times lag device
Thanks part :
My credit thanks to HTC HD2 Russian project guys ( special Football and MagLite)
Planning release beta version soon
Tom
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Source : here
Since tom has posted this, most probably its real. And he is planning to release beta version soon.
What do you think is it real? If so it is a very good news for hd2 users.

Note:- I resized the pic so that its clearly visible.

if you consider that the HD was at first a WM7 test device.
and now HD2 is a MS Test Device. I would not be suprised at all to see this released.
Just because something is not getting an "offical" release does not mean anything.
I am not sure if XDA knows what the words "official release" means.

well pretty sure we knew it wouldn't be official but a test rom is EXACTLY what devs have been looking for since this debacle actually began
I can't wait for the release and that means the touch hd2 actually looks like a winner for me as the first wp7s device
but some questions
can one flash back to wm 6.5 or are we stuck
some more questions but good news time to blog!

I'm thinking this is legit. I was holding off on buying a HD2 but if this gets released, I'll be running to the nearest T-Mobile store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836

tom codon has no reason to lie
its not even april fools day!

Dont forget, HTC HD3 will be announced soon
RustyGrom said:
I'm thinking this is legit. I was holding off on buying a HD2 but if this gets released, I'll be running to the nearest T-Mobile store.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836
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gogol said:
Dont forget, HTC HD3 will be announced soon
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not before 8 monthes

hoss_n2 said:
not before 8 monthes
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im thinking about getting an android device instead.

very cool will pick up an hd2 if price is right. But will have to deal with edge as the fuhrur said. Maybe import from telstra.

What the hell? That's supposed to be the interface of WP7s? With those gigantic font sizes? One word per line?
What's the point of having 800x480 pixels if you use 60-point fonts? 5 lines of agenda per screen? Will it be able to display one calendar month in a single screen or will you only be able to look at 4 days at a time?
This is an interface for short-shighted people?
Hell, fortunately the people designing Windows 7 does not think that the people purchasing computers are 5-year old children, or 85 year-old. That is scared by more than 5 lines of text on a screen or having to think where to put their files.
I'm not going to purchase a new phone that is a tamagotchi for 5 year old children. Use have been using computers at home for 20 years, we're in 2010, not 1984...

Man, there are so many threads discussing WP7 UI. Do you really need to start this discussion here?

vangrieg said:
Man, there are so many threads discussing WP7 UI. Do you really need to start this discussion here?
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I wonder did u ever read the first post? Its not WP7 UI, its real man.

jagan2 said:
I wonder did u ever read the first post? Its not WP7 UI, its real man.
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Did you read the thread? He was responding to the post directly above his.

Now there are also Youtube videos in the HTCpedia thread

well hopefully this is real. does anybody remember windows mobile on iphone?

Might be sensible to hold off from overly wild celebration just yet - I believe that if we do choose to flash it, there is no way back due to some fundamental changes in the bootloader.
Personally I'd be interested to have a look at it if I knew I could get back to something tried and tested again. Still, I'm sure the good people working on it will figure out a solution if we give them time and space.
I just hope it doesn't turn into an 'xda special' - a bunch of impatient ingrates hassling the developers to release it and then accusing them of being con artists if they don't do it in a timescale that suits...

RustyGrom said:
Did you read the thread? He was responding to the post directly above his.
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lol. /facepalm
I'm hoping we can get a triboot thing going. lol Eclair, 6.5.x, and 7 all on one device. I'd make panties drop everywhere.

Existing discussion here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653836
Whilst there is a lot of speculation, it helps to keep everyone on the same page .
Closed.
Dave

I won a WP7 phone!!!

Sadly, I won't get it til general availablity and I don't know which phone. Microsoft peeps are still being cagey with it. The guy wouldn't even let me take a pic of a LG WP7 device even though it's been all over the internet already. The only real new info I've gleaned is that they will support basic exchange policies like pin unlock and remote wipe. Still going to try and fenagle some more info out of them.

WTH? Congratulations!!

cool can i have it?

Congrats!.........

Depending on what they say, I might just get a HD2. The WP7 device is supposed to be general availability and they might make devices available before then and I'm not willing to wait.

niceeee
thats lucky and awesome!

Remember to colaborate with XDA and help WP7 become more awesome .

Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release

cgigate said:
Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release
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After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive. While it may not on paper be the #1 phone OS, it is rather good and will put up a good fight. Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features. More positive info will come to light as we near launch.

RustyGrom said:
After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive.
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Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
RustyGrom said:
Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features.
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Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?

vangrieg said:
Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?
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I think I've always been relatively positive about the new OS. While some of the new restrictions are annoyingly restrictive, I don't think it'll be a problem for us. In one of the sessions today they showed off how devs will be able to unlock phones and it was just a desktop app that talks to the store. I can easily see this app being modified to just not talk to the store but I'm betting there will need to be more done than this. So while I still wish MS would open up the dev platform more, I somewhat respect the decisions they've made and I don't think it will be hard for the rest of us to have phones we can do as we wish with.
It was stated earlier in the week by one of the members of the WP7 team that only 70-80% of the OS had been shown off up to this point. However, after going hands on with a device for a while today, I didn't find much that we haven't seen yet. The whole thing is fluid and is super intuitive. It really is a joy to use. So I'm not sure how much is left to unveil but it seems rather useable today. But none of the WP7 guys that I talked to are using it full time yet so that's kind of telling.

nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...

Pics or it didn't happen!

Jeeze. Necro thread!
I ended up deciding to wait for a WP7 device. The HD2 they had was a european model and couldn't do 3G here. A smartphone without 3G is useless. So I wait til October like everyone else. But at least it will be free.
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drownage said:
nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...
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Not all the specs, AFAIK the chipsets in the HD2 do not conform to all the hardware specs that Microsoft has made for Windows Phone 7 compatibility. Things like the hardware image scaler for example are not present in the HD2, nor is support for hardware acceleration of the VC-1 codec.

10 Oct 2010 - Windows Phone 7

Sorry about the title, typed in the wrong date.
It's confirmed. Windows Phone 7 will launch on the 11th of October in New York. T-Mobile is one of the launch carriers. AT&T is confirmed to be the second.
Source(s):
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/03/confirmed-windows-phone-7-launches-october-11th-in-new-york-cit/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/...ndts-ralph-de-la-vega-to-headline-windows-ph/

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This seems more like speculation with a bit of truth. Don't really care though I'm on Tmobile, because I know it will come soon.
I plan on upgrading , but I won't do it until I see a device with a 32GB option. If not then I'll just get the Zune HD2 64GB (If it is real) with a Android Device.

T-Mobile is definitely not the only carrier for WP7.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/...ndts-ralph-de-la-vega-to-headline-windows-ph/
It very well may be that AT&T will be exclusive for a bit with T-Mo getting devices later. Maybe AT&T is getting them the same date as Europe (October 21st) and T-Mo is launching November 8th?

I don't believe its a lunch. Its just a press meeting for people to see what the finished devices are like.

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I don't believe its a lunch. Its just a press meeting for people to see what the finished devices are like.
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Depends on your definition of "launch". In this case, they're showing off the devices and announcing retail availability, etc. Everything about the v1 release should be fully open... no more of this "we can't tell you that" (except in regards to future updates).

yes! its about time cant wait to upgrade my htc hd2

theomni said:
I don't believe its a lunch. Its just a press meeting for people to see what the finished devices are like.
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your dumb its not a press meeting its a launch.

Sorry yeah AT&T is involved too.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/...ndts-ralph-de-la-vega-to-headline-windows-ph/

RustyGrom said:
Depends on your definition of "launch". In this case, they're showing off the devices and announcing retail availability, etc. Everything about the v1 release should be fully open... no more of this "we can't tell you that" (except in regards to future updates).
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Right. But it won't be available to consumers right on that day will it? That's what I meant. I associate "launch" to "consumer-availability"
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your dumb its not a press meeting its a launch.
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And what part of "Press Conference" did you miss in the big pictures posted above, edited....

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