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wm6.5 - android

hello buddy
i just want ask if i can remove the WM 6.5 All of it
and i put the android os
without bot from wm to android

Hi.
No, you have to let WM 6.x to boot Haret.exe from your favorite file browser

WinningDays said:
Hi.
No, you have to let WM 6.x to boot Haret.exe from your favorite file browser
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u mean there is no chance to change the OS from the phone >> or for now ?

Booting Android/Linux on a WinMo device is close to try to run Mac OS on a PC.
It might be possible, but not now.
We have to hope that an Android ROM will come someday, but the developpers work hard to fix the main problems

WinningDays said:
Booting Android/Linux on a WinMo device is close to try to run Mac OS on a PC.
It might be possible, but not now.
We have to hope that an Android ROM will come someday, but the developpers work hard to fix the main problems
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ok thx we have to hope coz its nice MOS
i think i will buy nexus one
and sell BLAAKKK STONNE

Couldn't this have been asked in the existing Q&A thread????
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[FYI][Myn's Warm Eclair][Porting Project]

Just for your info:
I got in contact with Myn for porting his Warm Eclair on Diamond + compatible devices. We want to bring this up on our Diamonds as he also has a Diamond device. So far I get Warm Eclair running til boot animation and then it stucks and reloops. His Donut build is a very fast and stable one and he cooks very good roms for the Vogue / Kaiser devices. So stay tuned, I will inform you when this gets updates.

I'll be watching this closely. I've used Myn's Warm Donut on my Vogue and was extremely pleased with it.
ByteWrencher

vatoloco said:
Just for your info:
I got in contact with Myn for porting his Warm Eclair on Diamond + compatible devices. We want to bring this up on our Diamonds as he also has a Diamond device. So far I get Warm Eclair running til boot animation and then it stucks and reloops. His Donut build is a very fast and stable one and he cooks very good roms for the Vogue / Kaiser devices. So stay tuned, I will inform you when this gets updates.
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so if you can port it, will you also release a flashable rom?

actually isn't possible to flash an android rom..the main problem(i think)is that we can't make linux bootable without using haret

HELICOPTER88 said:
actually isn't possible to flash an android rom..the main problem(i think)is that we can't make linux bootable without using haret
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but what about htc vogue or kaiser?
there it is possible to flash an android rom. What are the differences between these 2 devices and our diamond? If the differences aren´t too big (but I think they are) it shouldnt be so hard to make a Rom.

who said its impoassible guyz NAND=Porting i guess correct me if i am wrong experts..the only reason its still not NAND on diamond is there are still some loopholes but i think definitely the experts are working at it and crack will crack it soon

Dunnera said:
but what about htc vogue or kaiser?
there it is possible to flash an android rom. What are the differences between these 2 devices and our diamond? If the differences aren´t too big (but I think they are) it shouldnt be so hard to make a Rom.
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to make a nand flash possible, xdandroid must be able to initialize ALL the (important) hardware on ALL the phones, becuase winmo won't be there to do it for us. I don't think we have that yet. then someone'll have to port dzo's bootloader, or write one, get a working nbh, etc... I'm sure people are hard at work on it, but there's probably some other things still pending that are more important.
vogue NEEDED nand to compensate for lack of memory. getting data on nand was huge for us. but the xdandroid devices don't have the resource constraints that vogue has... even running an unoptimized build from sqsh with minimal hardware support, my vzw tp runs as fast or faster than my vogue.
all that to say: all things will come in time.

mrkite38 said:
to make a nand flash possible, xdandroid must be able to initialize ALL the (important) hardware on ALL the phones, becuase winmo won't be there to do it for us. I don't think we have that yet. then someone'll have to port dzo's bootloader, or write one, get a working nbh, etc... I'm sure people are hard at work on it, but there's probably some other things still pending that are more important.
vogue NEEDED nand to compensate for lack of memory. getting data on nand was huge for us. but the xdandroid devices don't have the resource constraints that vogue has... even running an unoptimized build from sqsh with minimal hardware support, my vzw tp runs as fast or faster than my vogue.
all that to say: all things will come in time.
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thx for your explanation.
i think its now better with the haret bootloader, cos you can update rootfs or zimages easily. A flashable rom would only be useful if everything works. so youre definitely right

Just a quick update for you:
I've sent out the Warm Eclair package to Myn. He will look into the thins and hopefully get the relooping boot animation working.

anyone help me how to make partition onwindow xp in my internal storage???
i cant understand from that android site...

anyone help me how to make partition onwindow xp in my internal storage???
i cant understand from that android site...
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What don't you understand? It's stated several times in several threads and also on my website that you will need Linux for partitioning. So Windows won't work! You may use a LiveCD, though I recommend you to install Virtualbox and Ubuntu on your windows machine.

vatoloco said:
What don't you understand? It's stated several times in several threads and also on my website that you will need Linux for partitioning. So Windows won't work! You may use a LiveCD, though I recommend you to install Virtualbox and Ubuntu on your windows machine.
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oh thanx for that...
but i am tierd of downloading..
so plz bear me...
thanx a lot i will try today..

Please let's keep this thread clean. It is intended for Porting Myn's Warm Eclair to our Diamonds (first post)

[Q] is it possible to make desire dual boot ?

it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?

No
Not that I'm aware of. You can't run Win Mob full stop.

Is it possible to dual boot with 2 different Custom MODS?? Like OpenDesire and Pays Rom for instance... Or a custom ROM and the official one that came with the phone..

hk5354 said:
it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
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This would be brilliant , they have android on the hd2, why can't we have winmo on the desire
+1 for a winmo 6,5 port

Would be great if you could multiboot, like with different sd cards.
But why would anyone want WinMo on the HTC Desire... Android for the win!

this is xda, this place has always been powered by "Because we can!", so don't ask such questions

Who in their right mind is going to put time and effort into porting a what is basically dead OS to the Desire ? Even Microsoft aren't bothering with WM anymore

Doesn't have to be 6.5...
But some WP7 features seem quite neat though.
I second this request! (if it is a request)

It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

back to the dual boot point, we can boot from a sd card so it is possible to dual boot 2 diff android roms

htc fan89 said:
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?

Puenos said:
You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
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I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
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Well.. I didn't look at this closely enough.. but Microsoft also provides an emulator for testing their roms.. using this "microsoft device emulator"s sources would make it a bit easier I guess? Well.. you can click on "license" on the following link.. but I just get a "page not found".. so I don't know any details.. but here is the link I found:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ED-6C95B261DDCD&displaylang=en&displaylang=en
I'm not a dev.. just did a bit research on this one and found their offical emulator.. besides that, there are also a few emulators for the WinMo environment.. some even written in Java I believe..
Again I don't know if they used some code from MS, or just wrote everything from scratch.. I don't really have enough knowledge here.. but I thought maybe I could share my thoughts and get some answers.. and maybe the information I found was a bit helpful?
Thanks anyway

Hy
At first im sorry for my bad englisch.
Back to multi boot of desire.
How we can implementing boot from sd-card and back.
How can i boot from sd-card?
What is with data.img, is it nessesary to build an other image or can i use the stock-rom to boot it from sd-card ( i think its unpossibele) ?
Is it right we need to patch hboot ?
is it possibel to load an other bootloader? (grub or somthing else)
I know many questions, but im faszinated of the idea "dual boot on my desire"
Greatings
meinbier

This would be a nice, becouse there is some apps that newer will be on android, and there is people that need this apps.
Dont tell me buy win mobile phone, becouse I get droid from my company. I m not programer, so I cant help on that way. I can only tell that i will donate some money to someone who make native winmobile app install / run on android via emulation or custom rom for desire.
Tnx for your time and i support this thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

im really interested in this as well ,i have just got a htc desire hd and would love to run both wp7 and android ,wp7 for xbox live is this any new info on this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UE-LVuudEk&feature=player_embedded
So its possible on the DHD!
Maybe on the old Desire too.

AFAIK the Desire's internal memory is not large enough for dual boot... I mean some ROMs have trouble fitting on the partitions now so what do you think would happen with 2 ROMs lol.. you'd have no space for apps... and if you did somehow manage to run a ROM from your SDCARD like you can with legendary devices like the touch pro where you run haret.exe from the phone which boots android - it would be very slow and impractical. So I doubt we will ever see this happen.
EDIT: Guess I was wrong! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325

[Q] Android ROM for Raphael!

Will it be possible to make any true standalone Android ROM without using windows?
And for what device are this settings "RAPH800"?

Currently, no, but there is workaround - a light ROM with dualboot or directly HaRET in autorun.

Neopeek is working on it at the moment. It will come in the next few weeks. Be patient!

e334 said:
Neopeek is working on it at the moment. It will come in the next few weeks. Be patient!
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could you please give more info or a link

In the next days i will look into dzo's script and adopt our kernel + ramadresses to get a full working nbh so that i can flash it onto my device. Hope everything goes well. This will take some serious concentration. This is what I am going to do:
Compile the kernel from scratch
Strip-out nb.os + nb.payload.os from vogue / kaiser / polaris to see what's going on
Recompile a new test-nbh to NAND-FLASH it as bootloader for Android
And last but not least: Adopt NoMoRootFS
I hope I and my device won't get stuck with this (I only have 1 device to test). If you wanna share your thoughts or contribute this then just answer to this discussion and share your ideas. I will keep you updated on this and in my free time I will also try to update the various Android builds. But I can't promise you to do so.
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-neopeek
http://www.neopeek.com/en/community...67-Flashing+Android+on+our+devices?groupid=13 (mods please remove if this violates any rule of xda..)

Keep in mind that currently us TP user's DON'T have working camera (working on), and faster power drain (working on.) so if you end up using this rom (when it's done and released in time) you will have a phone that drain's faster then WM (meter usage is PRETTY accurate though itself.), and no camera anymore (until they finish adding support, and THEN add to this guy's kernal for the said ROM.), just so you know this
Currently, dual booting works just fine, and haven't experienced any negative's to date since using it this way. Hope that helps.

Ok. Tnx for the answers.
But can someone explain to me why it is so difficult to make working ROM for TP when the HTC Hero have the same hardware and powered up with Android? I am confused about that.
For what phone are startup settings (RAPH800)?
How much it will be faster with ROM flashed in nand memory than one run by heret in WM?
Tnx

mikx said:
Ok. Tnx for the answers.
But can someone explain to me why it is so difficult to make working ROM for TP when the HTC Hero have the same hardware and powered up with Android? I am confused about that.
For what phone are startup settings (RAPH800)?
How much it will be faster with ROM flashed in nand memory than one run by heret in WM?
Tnx
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Uhm the Hero comes with Android 'from the factory' - it's a native Android device. Just like WinMo is native to our devices...
The brilliant devs are literally trying to reverse engineer drivers so Linux/Android can run on our WinMo phones.
I forgot to answer your other questions... NAND should give some performance boost, but I don't know how much. Probably not much, it didn't do much for the RHOD - albeit a little.
Phone startup settings, you should have a STARTUPS folder and it should have the RAPH800 startup in there...

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Cant wait for nand support , i loved it on my Kaiser

Theoretical question: Will installation to NAND and starting directly from bootloader affect performance positively?

Corias said:
Theoretical question: Will installation to NAND and starting directly from bootloader affect performance positively?
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In theory yes, but so far the benefits have been minor, if any. Of course the NAND that is functional for the TP2 isn't technically a full NAND, so it's probably not the best example to use.

arrrghhh said:
Uhm the Hero comes with Android 'from the factory' - it's a native Android device. Just like WinMo is native to our devices...
The brilliant devs are literally trying to reverse engineer drivers so Linux/Android can run on our WinMo phones.
I forgot to answer your other questions... NAND should give some performance boost, but I don't know how much. Probably not much, it didn't do much for the RHOD - albeit a little.
Phone startup settings, you should have a STARTUPS folder and it should have the RAPH800 startup in there...
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Tnx for the answer. I know that I have RAPH800, but it can't work on my TP, only settings that work are RAPH, and I was wondering for what phone are these RAPH800 settings??

mikx said:
Tnx for the answer. I know that I have RAPH800, but it can't work on my TP, only settings that work are RAPH, and I was wondering for what phone are these RAPH800 settings??
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I'm not sure how to answer your question. Babijoee's builds have a STARTUPS folder, do you not have this?

[Q] install androidOS after HSPL cooked rom?

I flashed HardSPL on my tilt 2 last year with the Energy Rom using the GTX theme. Ever since I've been noticing that android is so much easier to use and I have been reading on the android Froyo development.
What I need to know is if I have to reflash Stock Rom with SSPL to be able to Flash the Android OS to it.
I've read all the FAQs and I have not seen this question on it and am wondering if anyone can answer it for me.
I don't know if I missed it or if I was looking for the answer at the wrong place.
So can someone please give me a link to a guide on how to do it properly because I don't want to brick my phone on the process. Also tips and precautions if you got any. Thank you!

Android can't be flashed to the phone a la WinMo yet.
Devs are working on it. Works great on my CDMA RHOD, but GSM is still a mystery...
To answer your question, you would need an unlocked bootloader (hSPL) to flash any unsigned image.
Android in its current form for our devices will run on stock SPL or hSPL, it doesn't care... everything runs off the SD card.

more questions
What is an Unasigned Image and what does it do or what is it for? Thank you for your answers.
Also how fast does Froyo run on the SD card. Is it slow? Is there a program to make android to auto start instead of it having to transtion from WM to android?

AnswersInGenesis.org said:
What is an Unasigned Image and what does it do or what is it for? Thank you for your answers.
Also how fast does Froyo run on the SD card. Is it slow? Is there a program to make android to auto start instead of it having to transtion from WM to android?
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Unsigned image = anything that's not a stock ROM.
FroYo runs about as well as you can expect on our hardware... which I might mention predates Android entirely... Proc+RAM dates to 2007 on the TP2. Thanks HTC...
For making Android auto-start, search is your friend. Gen.Y is your answer.

Oh nice I didnt see it was you arrgggh. Ive read you posts all day for the past 3 days. I constantly wonder how you guys know all this stuff.
Have you guys thought about video instructions or image instructions for the forum?
I also had a question concerning your device. When you flashed the Cooked Rom on your device ( i know,not the android, its not cooked ) did it change the buttons on your keyboard? Mine did and Ive been looking like crazy for a program that allows me to set the keys to what ever character I want. I did come across it a year ago, but nowadays that post is long gone. Thank you for all your help.

AnswersInGenesis.org said:
Oh nice I didnt see it was you arrgggh. Ive read you posts all day for the past 3 days. I constantly wonder how you guys know all this stuff.
Have you guys thought about video instructions or image instructions for the forum?
I also had a question concerning your device. When you flashed the Cooked Rom on your device ( i know,not the android, its not cooked ) did it change the buttons on your keyboard? Mine did and Ive been looking like crazy for a program that allows me to set the keys to what ever character I want. I did come across it a year ago, but nowadays that post is long gone. Thank you for all your help.
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Video/image instructions...? A few have made videos, but stuff changes so frequently it would get outdated very quickly. A PITA to maintain... It's really not that difficult, is it?
I assume you're talking WinMo. I haven't used it in over a year - but there was some weird issue that effected only Sprint devices, and there was some cab that I installed that fixed the issue. Sorry, I'm not much help for WinMo. Ask cajunflavoredbob, I just tell people not to use it .