hello buddy
i just want ask if i can remove the WM 6.5 All of it
and i put the android os
without bot from wm to android
Hi.
No, you have to let WM 6.x to boot Haret.exe from your favorite file browser
WinningDays said:
Hi.
No, you have to let WM 6.x to boot Haret.exe from your favorite file browser
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u mean there is no chance to change the OS from the phone >> or for now ?
Booting Android/Linux on a WinMo device is close to try to run Mac OS on a PC.
It might be possible, but not now.
We have to hope that an Android ROM will come someday, but the developpers work hard to fix the main problems
WinningDays said:
Booting Android/Linux on a WinMo device is close to try to run Mac OS on a PC.
It might be possible, but not now.
We have to hope that an Android ROM will come someday, but the developpers work hard to fix the main problems
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ok thx we have to hope coz its nice MOS
i think i will buy nexus one
and sell BLAAKKK STONNE
Couldn't this have been asked in the existing Q&A thread????
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why doesn't anybody consider making a android based rom for the touch vogue? heck id even be up for a iphone cloned based rom, we need something different! the problem with most iphone themes are that they just mask windows, what we need is a true overall, complete system theme!
anybody up for the challenge?
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android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that
theoneownz said:
android is already out their through a linux boot loader Iphone I drought it our vouge's cant handle that
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yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!
fixxxer2008 said:
yeah but why can't we just make a rom so we can run android natively? as far as the iphone, i mean our version of the iphone, not the actual apple software!
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If it's so easy, why don't you do it
It's very difficult to do... nobody has figured out how yet.
i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root
Android is linux...
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i just wish android would just be able to load from one file instead of multiple files on the sd's root
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Let Me start of By saying you have a great idea.. you probably know that android was developed by Google, Microsoft's current largest competitor. Las Week Google Announced That Th Chromium Project is working out so greatly that they plan on makeing a full on desktop replacement operating system based on the linux kernel. Currently The Only Other Operating System Google Has Made Is andriod, No let me explain why this is hard to set up on our phones. The Manufactuer Prudoced a ROM with a windows CE bootloader using thwe files NK.exe. for the boot process, for more info on this process google windows CE boot process. however the entire process is difrent in linux. In linux instead of having NK (CE loader) as part of the windows OS we have a seprate program called a bootloader, the two mos common ones are the LILO or LInux LOader and the GRUB or GRand Unified Boot loader niter of wich anyone knows how to get the HTC phone to recoginse without an external windows CE aplication. Running The Application Is The Abutal Process Of The Bootloader, The COnfigration file is simalar to the windows XP boot.ini. esentialy your copy of android is just another application.
To ths date no one has be able to figure out how to create a rom that can edit the factory bootloadre to male it use GRUB or LILO, however if you wanted to chose one or the other i'd develop it to run a mobile version of GRUB bcause then you can dual boot windows mobile as if you were on a PC .
hope this answered your questions as to why an android ROM isn't out there yet.
Honestly, if there was a version of android and chrome i would switch all my devices over to Google Linux right now, i'm tired of the microsoft way of computing, paying another $150 every two to five years.
in theory you can have both andriod and iphone
android is open source, you should be able to use it as a base foundation and skin it with an iphone interface
it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
No
Not that I'm aware of. You can't run Win Mob full stop.
Is it possible to dual boot with 2 different Custom MODS?? Like OpenDesire and Pays Rom for instance... Or a custom ROM and the official one that came with the phone..
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it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
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This would be brilliant , they have android on the hd2, why can't we have winmo on the desire
+1 for a winmo 6,5 port
Would be great if you could multiboot, like with different sd cards.
But why would anyone want WinMo on the HTC Desire... Android for the win!
this is xda, this place has always been powered by "Because we can!", so don't ask such questions
Who in their right mind is going to put time and effort into porting a what is basically dead OS to the Desire ? Even Microsoft aren't bothering with WM anymore
Doesn't have to be 6.5...
But some WP7 features seem quite neat though.
I second this request! (if it is a request)
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
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back to the dual boot point, we can boot from a sd card so it is possible to dual boot 2 diff android roms
htc fan89 said:
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
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You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
Puenos said:
You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
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I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
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I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
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Well.. I didn't look at this closely enough.. but Microsoft also provides an emulator for testing their roms.. using this "microsoft device emulator"s sources would make it a bit easier I guess? Well.. you can click on "license" on the following link.. but I just get a "page not found".. so I don't know any details.. but here is the link I found:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ED-6C95B261DDCD&displaylang=en&displaylang=en
I'm not a dev.. just did a bit research on this one and found their offical emulator.. besides that, there are also a few emulators for the WinMo environment.. some even written in Java I believe..
Again I don't know if they used some code from MS, or just wrote everything from scratch.. I don't really have enough knowledge here.. but I thought maybe I could share my thoughts and get some answers.. and maybe the information I found was a bit helpful?
Thanks anyway
Hy
At first im sorry for my bad englisch.
Back to multi boot of desire.
How we can implementing boot from sd-card and back.
How can i boot from sd-card?
What is with data.img, is it nessesary to build an other image or can i use the stock-rom to boot it from sd-card ( i think its unpossibele) ?
Is it right we need to patch hboot ?
is it possibel to load an other bootloader? (grub or somthing else)
I know many questions, but im faszinated of the idea "dual boot on my desire"
Greatings
meinbier
This would be a nice, becouse there is some apps that newer will be on android, and there is people that need this apps.
Dont tell me buy win mobile phone, becouse I get droid from my company. I m not programer, so I cant help on that way. I can only tell that i will donate some money to someone who make native winmobile app install / run on android via emulation or custom rom for desire.
Tnx for your time and i support this thread.
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im really interested in this as well ,i have just got a htc desire hd and would love to run both wp7 and android ,wp7 for xbox live is this any new info on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UE-LVuudEk&feature=player_embedded
So its possible on the DHD!
Maybe on the old Desire too.
AFAIK the Desire's internal memory is not large enough for dual boot... I mean some ROMs have trouble fitting on the partitions now so what do you think would happen with 2 ROMs lol.. you'd have no space for apps... and if you did somehow manage to run a ROM from your SDCARD like you can with legendary devices like the touch pro where you run haret.exe from the phone which boots android - it would be very slow and impractical. So I doubt we will ever see this happen.
EDIT: Guess I was wrong! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325
Will it be possible to make any true standalone Android ROM without using windows?
And for what device are this settings "RAPH800"?
Currently, no, but there is workaround - a light ROM with dualboot or directly HaRET in autorun.
Neopeek is working on it at the moment. It will come in the next few weeks. Be patient!
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Neopeek is working on it at the moment. It will come in the next few weeks. Be patient!
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could you please give more info or a link
In the next days i will look into dzo's script and adopt our kernel + ramadresses to get a full working nbh so that i can flash it onto my device. Hope everything goes well. This will take some serious concentration. This is what I am going to do:
Compile the kernel from scratch
Strip-out nb.os + nb.payload.os from vogue / kaiser / polaris to see what's going on
Recompile a new test-nbh to NAND-FLASH it as bootloader for Android
And last but not least: Adopt NoMoRootFS
I hope I and my device won't get stuck with this (I only have 1 device to test). If you wanna share your thoughts or contribute this then just answer to this discussion and share your ideas. I will keep you updated on this and in my free time I will also try to update the various Android builds. But I can't promise you to do so.
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-neopeek
http://www.neopeek.com/en/community...67-Flashing+Android+on+our+devices?groupid=13 (mods please remove if this violates any rule of xda..)
Keep in mind that currently us TP user's DON'T have working camera (working on), and faster power drain (working on.) so if you end up using this rom (when it's done and released in time) you will have a phone that drain's faster then WM (meter usage is PRETTY accurate though itself.), and no camera anymore (until they finish adding support, and THEN add to this guy's kernal for the said ROM.), just so you know this
Currently, dual booting works just fine, and haven't experienced any negative's to date since using it this way. Hope that helps.
Ok. Tnx for the answers.
But can someone explain to me why it is so difficult to make working ROM for TP when the HTC Hero have the same hardware and powered up with Android? I am confused about that.
For what phone are startup settings (RAPH800)?
How much it will be faster with ROM flashed in nand memory than one run by heret in WM?
Tnx
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Ok. Tnx for the answers.
But can someone explain to me why it is so difficult to make working ROM for TP when the HTC Hero have the same hardware and powered up with Android? I am confused about that.
For what phone are startup settings (RAPH800)?
How much it will be faster with ROM flashed in nand memory than one run by heret in WM?
Tnx
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Uhm the Hero comes with Android 'from the factory' - it's a native Android device. Just like WinMo is native to our devices...
The brilliant devs are literally trying to reverse engineer drivers so Linux/Android can run on our WinMo phones.
I forgot to answer your other questions... NAND should give some performance boost, but I don't know how much. Probably not much, it didn't do much for the RHOD - albeit a little.
Phone startup settings, you should have a STARTUPS folder and it should have the RAPH800 startup in there...
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Cant wait for nand support , i loved it on my Kaiser
Theoretical question: Will installation to NAND and starting directly from bootloader affect performance positively?
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Theoretical question: Will installation to NAND and starting directly from bootloader affect performance positively?
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In theory yes, but so far the benefits have been minor, if any. Of course the NAND that is functional for the TP2 isn't technically a full NAND, so it's probably not the best example to use.
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Uhm the Hero comes with Android 'from the factory' - it's a native Android device. Just like WinMo is native to our devices...
The brilliant devs are literally trying to reverse engineer drivers so Linux/Android can run on our WinMo phones.
I forgot to answer your other questions... NAND should give some performance boost, but I don't know how much. Probably not much, it didn't do much for the RHOD - albeit a little.
Phone startup settings, you should have a STARTUPS folder and it should have the RAPH800 startup in there...
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Tnx for the answer. I know that I have RAPH800, but it can't work on my TP, only settings that work are RAPH, and I was wondering for what phone are these RAPH800 settings??
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Tnx for the answer. I know that I have RAPH800, but it can't work on my TP, only settings that work are RAPH, and I was wondering for what phone are these RAPH800 settings??
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I'm not sure how to answer your question. Babijoee's builds have a STARTUPS folder, do you not have this?
Hello,
I have been researching for a while trying to find an answer to my question but hadn't
found a solution. I would like to know if it is possible at all to have an otion during cold
phone boot-up to select to boot to WinMo 6.5 or NAND Android?
I have been running Android from SD card for a long time but it seems to me that the
SD development is slowly coming to an end. So, I would like to have a way to select a
recent NAND Android build (must me CM7 variant) and still have an option to boot to
WinMo 6.5 (exclusively to run iGO8).
So, dear forum users, I would be very grateful if someone can shed a light on the matter.
Thank you!
alessio
alessio_81 said:
Hello,
I have been researching for a while trying to find an answer to my question but hadn't
found a solution. I would like to know if it is possible at all to have an otion during cold
phone boot-up to select to boot to WinMo 6.5 or NAND Android?
I have been running Android from SD card for a long time but it seems to me that the
SD development is slowly coming to an end. So, I would like to have a way to select a
recent NAND Android build (must me CM7 variant) and still have an option to boot to
WinMo 6.5 (exclusively to run iGO8).
So, dear forum users, I would be very grateful if someone can shed a light on the matter.
Thank you!
alessio
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Hi,
Its impossible, and btw wrong place to ask this.
Bye
not possible, this needs to be in the Q&A section
Thank you for your answers!
PS Sorry for posting in the wrong forum. Next time I'll be more careful
alessio_81 said:
Thank you for your answers!
PS Sorry for posting in the wrong forum. Next time I'll be more careful
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there is no space for both operating systems to live in NAND all together.
What i would suggest, is install iGO on Android if that resolves your problem.
P.S.: wrong thread
It's possible to run HD2 nand Android Sense & GB and Desire nand Android GB from an HD2 with a WM6.5 rom, you can use portadroid for that.
I've an HD2 with WM6.5 dutty rom, and I run Oxygen 2.2.2 (GB235), HyperDroid-CM7-v3.0.1 (GB235), Desire HD 3.06.405.1 - Sense 3.0 - Android 2.3.5 and NDT SENSE3.0 PYRAMID BASED V7.0
I also use igo8 for WinMo and Android, you can share the same map directory.
Oxygen 2.2.2 is super fast.
I don't understand. Is it possible to flash mango to my DHD? Why? I've watched some relative threads but still don't understand.
Stephen. said:
I don't understand. Is it possible to flash mango to my DHD? Why? I've watched some relative threads but still don't understand.
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What you might have seen, is just a theme of Windows Phone OS and not actually the Operating system itself. Desire HD is an android phone and it is not possible to run Windows phone on DHD due to two simple and major reasons.
1. Devs don't give a dubblido about porting windows phone OS onto DHD
2. We all know that Android is much better than Windows phone OS, in terms of accessibility and utility.
...1. Devs don't give a dubblido about porting windows phone OS onto DHD...
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Thanks, but what is dubblido?
Windows Os Is A Closed source and porting it to android is very very hard and impossible if i may say. and if you need windows 7 go and buy one, meanwhile the thread will be closed.