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not because i dont like the phone, but because i found tmobile's service to be vastly inferior compared to ATT. I have a way to get unlimited minutes via google voice, so i need fave 5, so i think i'll be switching to verizon.
Any eta on when the verizon TP2 comes out?
What exactly do you mean by vastly inferior? I think T-Mobiles serive is great and very cheap but it's all about the area you are in. You should always go with the carrier who has the best coverage in your area.
i'm in the MD/DC/VA area.
i'm driving through areas that tmobile reports Great coverage, but i'm still experiencing dropped calls, breaking up of reception, no 3g service (it drops to edge, or G). sometimes i can't transmit ANY data
when it works, it works great, but as i'm on the road quite a bit (realtor), i need something that i can talk on reliably. ATT isn't supposed to be that great, but i definitely value their service over what i got with tmobile. i'll have to wait for verizon
i thought tmobile would be a great option just because of their costs, but the service degradation isn't worth the savings to me.
Ever since one of my old jobs, something became quite obvious to me. No matter what service you have, if you are getting **** service, the price is of no relevance. **** is **** at any price.
I have no problems with it here in Southern California, but I do understand your needs. The one on Verizon won't be out till I think they were saying Oct or something like that.
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i'm in the MD/DC/VA area.
i'm driving through areas that tmobile reports Great coverage, but i'm still experiencing dropped calls, breaking up of reception, no 3g service (it drops to edge, or G). sometimes i can't transmit ANY data
when it works, it works great, but as i'm on the road quite a bit (realtor), i need something that i can talk on reliably. ATT isn't supposed to be that great, but i definitely value their service over what i got with tmobile. i'll have to wait for verizon
i thought tmobile would be a great option just because of their costs, but the service degradation isn't worth the savings to me.
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Should have filed a service request for more 3g towers in your area, Thats what I did
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Should have filed a service request for more 3g towers in your area, Thats what I did
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Did it help? I don't know anyone that has had to do this, so no experience with it.
I am in the same situation, I am trying out the TMobile but here in Puerto Rico is not 3g yet but I really like the phone and Att doesnt look that are going to release it soon, if they actually are going to do it... ???
They're only focusing on more densly populated areas at the moment.
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tmobile doesnt and will not currently honor requests for 3G service in specific areas, and if youre having your doubts about my infomration, i work for the company. They're only focusing on more densly populated areas at the moment.
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Thanks for the info. Do they consider Puerto Rico a populated area? Do you know when they are going to launch it here?
According to T-mo I should be getting 3 bars (NOT) in my house but if I even pick up the TP2 I have no signal. I have repeatedly called to complain and all my neighbors also called with T-Mo to complain so after 4 months of *****ing they claim they are buying space on a tower close to me in 120 days (we shall see)...Tj
petitioning for better service isnt an option for me as i am within my trial period, and by the time they would act on it (if at all) the tp2 will be out on all the other carriers
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Did it help? I don't know anyone that has had to do this, so no experience with it.
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It did 3 more towers were installed in my area, went from having 1 bar to full bars!
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petitioning for better service isnt an option for me as i am within my trial period, and by the time they would act on it (if at all) the tp2 will be out on all the other carriers
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I disagree, it took three weeks at most not months
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It did 3 more towers were installed in my area, went from having 1 bar to full bars!
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Wow that is quite awesome. I should do the same in my area by my home. Signal is usually 1-2 bars, with it hovering around 1 bar more often than not.
I played with the TP2 on the T-Mobile 14 day trial. It was terrible! T-Mobile not the TP2! The phone is AWESOME!
Dropped calls, garbled calls, and the data is so slow you can’t get a connection half the time (browser timing out) and with Google maps the page refresh/update was so slow you would drive right off the page onto a blank screen even at moderate speeds around town. I travel around the country and it was no better anywhere. Even with 3G showing!
I’m with Verizon (not had hardly any issues with service) and plan to wait until they offer it, PLEASE DON’T START THE Verizon Vis …. Thing. Just stating an asked for opinion.
Rich
gehzumteufel said:
Ever since one of my old jobs, something became quite obvious to me. No matter what service you have, if you are getting **** service, the price is of no relevance. **** is **** at any price.
I have no problems with it here in Southern California, but I do understand your needs. The one on Verizon won't be out till I think they were saying Oct or something like that.
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Sprint is going to release the tp2 on Sept 8th so I don't think Verizon is going to release it no later than Sept.
Guess your mileage will vary...
Here in s fl, tmo works great for me. Had att some years ago, also good here. Tmo price and cs seems better to me. Got the unlimited loyal customer plan for $49.99month. Hard to beat that.
No dropped calls, ever, and the ph seems to ring for ever if I don't answer.
Web pages open fast.
I seem to get 3-4 bars H3g service most of the time around here. Never seen 5 bars though.
Here is a screen shot at my office showing 4 bars H3g.
Same thing here. I live in Tampa and I always have full bars with 3g. but then again I think Tampa is the 11th largest city in US so it would make sense we all have pretty good service over here. Most people here, that I know or come across have t-mobile. The only thing verizon is good for around here is Fios. what;s sprint? ;p; and at&t are for rich preppy kids who think theyre cool with their iphones. At least...thats the trend over here
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Guess your mileage will vary...
Here in s fl, tmo works great for me. Had att some years ago, also good here. Tmo price and cs seems better to me. Got the unlimited loyal customer plan for $49.99month. Hard to beat that.
No dropped calls, ever, and the ph seems to ring for ever if I don't answer.
Web pages open fast.
I seem to get 3-4 bars H3g service most of the time around here. Never seen 5 bars though.
Here is a screen shot at my office showing 4 bars H3g.
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No dropped calls, ever, and the ph seems to ring for ever if I don't answer.
Web pages open fast.
I seem to get 3-4 bars H3g service most of the time around here. Never seen 5 bars though.
Here is a screen shot at my office showing 4 bars H3g.
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Your 4 bars is max signal, there isnt' a 5th bar.
btw, what is that a pic of for your background?
Rich W said:
I played with the TP2 on the T-Mobile 14 day trial. It was terrible! T-Mobile not the TP2! The phone is AWESOME!
Dropped calls, garbled calls, and the data is so slow you can’t get a connection half the time (browser timing out) and with Google maps the page refresh/update was so slow you would drive right off the page onto a blank screen even at moderate speeds around town. I travel around the country and it was no better anywhere. Even with 3G showing!
I’m with Verizon (not had hardly any issues with service) and plan to wait until they offer it, PLEASE DON’T START THE Verizon Vis …. Thing. Just stating an asked for opinion.
Rich
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thanks for the confirmation rich! i feel really bad because the customer service at tmobile is GREAT! unfortunately, the actual phone service wasn't good enough for my needs. i hate having to go back to at&t, but i guess i'm enslaved to them. i'm waiting for either verizon to get it, or att now as i know i will NEVER use sprint. i really wanted to use tmobile and hoped they would meet my needs
I currently have the droid bionic with a iPhone as my back up. Is it worth me switching to sprint to pick up the Epic touch? How's the battery life and reception with sprint compared to VZW? Right now with juice defender I get about a consistent 20 hrs actually using my phone.
Verizons network is better as far as data speeds go. I don't think it's worth the switch for just a device.
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Depends on where you are and where you tend to travel to.
I get 2-2.5Mb 3G speeds with Sprint (250 - 300KBytes/s) at home and and work. I also get 1-1.5Mb 3G in the middle of the forest up in northern Wisconsin. All with a lowly Moment.
There is an active 4G tower where I work (according to a friend's Evo) despite it not being on the coverage map.
On the other hand, if you are stuck anywhere where Verizon has the only network, you will have crappy data speeds because Verizon refuses to allow anything more than 1x roaming to Sprint customers. This also applies if you are on the edge of a Sprint tower... Sprint tends to want to keep you connected to a Sprint signal, regardless of its strength. This can get frustrating at times.
If you do go with Sprint, the first app you should download and pay for is Roam Control.
That all depends on your needs...
Sprint's voice and data plans are much cheaper and 4g data is unlimited. 3g is limited to 5gb per month.
If you do need coverage in remote areas, check Sprint's coverage maps and see if there is signal where you need it.
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp
If you dont use much data and want to spend more to get faster speeds while paying more for voice as well, Verizon is the way to go. I would only hang with Verizon if coverage is an issue.
I had Verizon for many years and switched to Sprint in 2006. I've never regretted making the change.
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That all depends on your needs...
Sprint's voice and data plans are much cheaper and 4g data is unlimited. 3g is limited to 5gb per month.
If you do need coverage in remote areas, check Sprint's coverage maps and see if there is signal where you need it.
http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp
If you dont use much data and want to spend more to get faster speeds while paying more for voice as well, Verizon is the way to go. I would only hang with Verizon if coverage is an issue.
I had Verizon for many years and switched to Sprint in 2006. I've never regretted making the change.
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Sprint doesn't cap data at 5GB for mobile phones. Only on their usb cards.
eakrish said:
I currently have the droid bionic with a iPhone as my back up. Is it worth me switching to sprint to pick up the Epic touch? How's the battery life and reception with sprint compared to VZW? Right now with juice defender I get about a consistent 20 hrs actually using my phone.
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Pick your provider FIRST, then pick your device.
As stated be sure to not just check a coverage map but to check with friends and coworkers who have Sprint and live/commute/work in your area.
I've traveled the country a little and I have never been without Sprint coverage except in two tiny holes in my home town...where not a single provider has anything but threshold levels of service out doors, indoors you get squat from any of them. These "holes", however, can be deal breakers if you happen to live and/or work in them. Coverage maps help, a little, but asking people (and looking at their signal meters) is far more precise.
As far as data speed is concerned it's a mixed bag. I came from a line of HTC devices where changing the PRL on-the-go was simple so I used the "00001.prl" a lot. This PRL, essentially, puts you on Verizon's towers, full speed 3G. I can honestly say that while Verizon's speeds tend to be far more consistent than Sprint's that even though I had the chance to get out of Sprint this month (for free) that instead of going to Big Red I used that to upgrade to the Epic Touch without hesitation...The data speeds can drag-ass in a highly congested area at times but unless it's lunch time in a 1-bar area I don't tend to dip below 500kbps and if it is later in the day (or evening) and/or in a sparsely populated area (or higher-income area, draw your own conclusions) I have seen as high as 2.7mbps...my friend lives in a low-population high income area and he may be the only Sprint subscriber for miles, lol, and they get 2.5~2.7mbps all day every day. There are also times/places where Sprint's 3G speed absolutely spanks Verizon's.
...as far as 4G goes it can be blazing fast but you probably won't ever get the signal indoors unless you are in a 4G saturated metropolitan environment. I hear lots of complaints about 4G speed but when I get connected it's always faster than my home internet (6mbps, the most you can get from residential ATT DSL around here), I have seen 15mbps too.
As far as price is concerned Sprint wins hands down especially if you consider the unlimited data and free roaming. Voice roaming is unlimited. There is a "soft" limit of 3G roaming at 300mb, but, that is a floating line. If you aren't usually roaming but happen to travel somewhere that you are forced to roam at worst they will call or send you a letter telling you that if you do it again your contract may be terminated. But as long as it doesn't happen at work or at home they are mostly forgiving...and if not? That's a free out on your contract and now you have a $500-$700 (retail) phone for trade-up or resale to go back to Verizon.
EDIT: Oh yeah, battery life. It's killer. Very very killer compared to a Moment, Hero, Evo 4G and Evo 3D this thing slaughters them all. It's hard to say since I have been using my phone more than breathing these past 2 days, but, considering that I'm very impressed....*very* impressed.
I agree with most everyone here take a look and see what you are using and what you need. make sure you have coverage at home and work and other places you visit regularly. if it works out for you make the switch. You can save alot of money with Sprint depending on your needs and they have a great selection of phones, I just the the GSII and it is awesome about 50% faster then the evo3d it just flies. but all of that power doesn't mean anything if you can't get signal.
I just switched from Verizon because I wanted the GS2 really bad.
I live in Seattle and Sprint has good coverage here so I'm pretty happy. (i've had Sprint in the past as well)
You can always switch and test drive Sprint for 14 days (or maybe it's 30) and if you don't like it, return to Verizon. No big deal.
PS: I had the Droid Bionic for a few days before switching to Sprint. Honestly, I think the GS2 is simply better in every way. That's just my opinion. Couldn't deal with the Pentile display and the camera was quite a disappointment.
If the service is good in the area then go for it. Of not I wouldn't change. If I could do it all over again I would have switched to vz before they started the data caps.
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I switched about 6 years ago and never looked back. I had voice and data with them for over 10 years, back in the Bell Mobile days. They kicked me off of a BroadbandAccess for using too much data claiming I HAD to have violated the ToS (P2P, video streaming, web hosting) by using over 5GB in a month. Really, that is only 150MB a day and that goes very quickly with just web and e-mail if you use it daily. I work on the road a LOT so naturally, I went over this regularly. I had to explain what I do and that I did NOT violate the ToS, which said NOTHING about 5GB. I didn't do any of the activities it stated. This was back when everything was unlimited with no fine print. They didn't charge an ETF and asked if I wanted to reactivate the account. I declined and moved to Sprint and eventually took voice too. Have been very happy since.
I still consider Sprint to be the best value in wireless. It always seemed that VZW nickle and dime'd me to death. My bill fluctuated month to month by $20 with no changes in service and additional fees. Just "taxes". They charged for web order shipping, activation, and everything they could have.
I forgot to mention I have unlimited data
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If the service is good in the area then go for it. Of not I wouldn't change. If I could do it all over again I would have switched to vz before they started the data caps.
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I wouldn't have switched. As stated below I was on them with true unlimited before they started the caps. Then they terminated the account and offered to reactivate, probably to instate a cap on me. I suspect the same would have happened to you.
When I switched data to Sprint, I asked if they had unlimited data and bandwidth, and got multiple confirmations (with chat transcripts) that it was 100% unlimited. They introduced the 5GB limit a year or two later. And, since I haven't renewed the contract or accepted any new modems on that line, it today is still unlimited and I use 8-10GB (sometimes more) monthly. They've called and tried to get me to renew, which would activate 4G but put a cap on 3G... and I've declined. Until 4G is everywhere I need on the road, I can't do it.
Phones are still unlimited, so I wonder if a cheap phone to tether with an unlimited plan is worth it for tethering only?? Just a thought.
I don't need a phone to tether, just need a bad ass phone that looks great, feels super fast and has great battery life. I also want a great looking display and widgets that are good for social media.
daneurysm said:
Pick your provider FIRST, then pick your device.
As stated be sure to not just check a coverage map but to check with friends and coworkers who have Sprint and live/commute/work in your area.
I've traveled the country a little and I have never been without Sprint coverage except in two tiny holes in my home town...where not a single provider has anything but threshold levels of service out doors, indoors you get squat from any of them. These "holes", however, can be deal breakers if you happen to live and/or work in them. Coverage maps help, a little, but asking people (and looking at their signal meters) is far more precise.
As far as data speed is concerned it's a mixed bag. I came from a line of HTC devices where changing the PRL on-the-go was simple so I used the "00001.prl" a lot. This PRL, essentially, puts you on Verizon's towers, full speed 3G. I can honestly say that while Verizon's speeds tend to be far more consistent than Sprint's that even though I had the chance to get out of Sprint this month (for free) that instead of going to Big Red I used that to upgrade to the Epic Touch without hesitation...The data speeds can drag-ass in a highly congested area at times but unless it's lunch time in a 1-bar area I don't tend to dip below 500kbps and if it is later in the day (or evening) and/or in a sparsely populated area (or higher-income area, draw your own conclusions) I have seen as high as 2.7mbps...my friend lives in a low-population high income area and he may be the only Sprint subscriber for miles, lol, and they get 2.5~2.7mbps all day every day. There are also times/places where Sprint's 3G speed absolutely spanks Verizon's.
...as far as 4G goes it can be blazing fast but you probably won't ever get the signal indoors unless you are in a 4G saturated metropolitan environment. I hear lots of complaints about 4G speed but when I get connected it's always faster than my home internet (6mbps, the most you can get from residential ATT DSL around here), I have seen 15mbps too.
As far as price is concerned Sprint wins hands down especially if you consider the unlimited data and free roaming. Voice roaming is unlimited. There is a "soft" limit of 3G roaming at 300mb, but, that is a floating line. If you aren't usually roaming but happen to travel somewhere that you are forced to roam at worst they will call or send you a letter telling you that if you do it again your contract may be terminated. But as long as it doesn't happen at work or at home they are mostly forgiving...and if not? That's a free out on your contract and now you have a $500-$700 (retail) phone for trade-up or resale to go back to Verizon.
EDIT: Oh yeah, battery life. It's killer. Very very killer compared to a Moment, Hero, Evo 4G and Evo 3D this thing slaughters them all. It's hard to say since I have been using my phone more than breathing these past 2 days, but, considering that I'm very impressed....*very* impressed.
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Sprint does NOT offer unlimited roaming.....I found this out while traveling to Florida in August. When I got done with explaining the Ambiguity in their false claims it has now since changed from unlimited roaming to unlimitting roaming on their network. They are such good corporate game players(liars).
Misleading people is what I don't agree with, but they are the cheapest game in town and suffice "if" you can get a signal. That said you get 800 minutes of roaming on their unlimited plan, and what ever your land line minutes are on their lower plans is the amount of roaming you will have before you have to PAY overages. If the overages happen too much they void your contract after making you aware that their is no unlimited. Now before any one starts debating this look at the advertisements and if that doesn't clue you in call and ask what I said.
They advertised unlimited roaming until I got done with them. They had a little fine print in the back of that agreement letting unsuspecting people that went over know that there was no unlimited roaming. Then they try to collect money for it. But, I let them know that ambiguity in contract law goes to the consumer, and that we can all void our contracts based on this lil tidbit of a lie, because many of us joined because of the roaming plan when we lose their coverage, and since it was a hoax the contract was null and void. They have now changed it to read unlimited roaming on their network only. How can you roam on the very network that you reside.
eakrish said:
I currently have the droid bionic with a iPhone as my back up. Is it worth me switching to sprint to pick up the Epic touch? How's the battery life and reception with sprint compared to VZW? Right now with juice defender I get about a consistent 20 hrs actually using my phone.
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QWIKSTRIKE said:
Sprint does NOT offer unlimited roaming.....I found this out while traveling to Florida in August. When I got done with explaining the Ambiguity in their false claims it has now since changed from unlimited roaming to unlimitting roaming on their network. They are such good corporate game players(liars).
Misleading people is what I don't agree with, but they are the cheapest game in town and suffice "if" you can get a signal. That said you get 800 minutes of roaming on their unlimited plan, and what ever your land line minutes are on their lower plans is the amount of roaming you will have before you have to PAY overages. If the overages happen too much they void your contract after making you aware that their is no unlimited. Now before any one starts debating this look at the advertisements and if that doesn't clue you in call and ask what I said.
They advertised unlimited roaming until I got done with them. They had a little fine print in the back of that agreement letting unsuspecting people that went over know that there was no unlimited roaming. Then they try to collect money for it. But, I let them know that ambiguity in contract law goes to the consumer, and that we can all void our contracts based on this lil tidbit of a lie, because many of us joined because of the roaming plan when we lose their coverage, and since it was a hoax the contract was null and void. They have now changed it to read unlimited roaming on their network only. How can you roam on the very network that you reside.
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Roaming on their network!? I'm trying really hard to find some way to make sense out of that... my legalese-to-english converter is usually pretty good but I just can't....wrap my....anything around that.
daneurysm said:
Pick your provider FIRST, then pick your device.
As stated be sure to not just check a coverage map but to check with friends and coworkers who have Sprint and live/commute/work in your area.
I've traveled the country a little and I have never been without Sprint coverage except in two tiny holes in my home town...where not a single provider has anything but threshold levels of service out doors, indoors you get squat from any of them. These "holes", however, can be deal breakers if you happen to live and/or work in them. Coverage maps help, a little, but asking people (and looking at their signal meters) is far more precise.
As far as data speed is concerned it's a mixed bag. I came from a line of HTC devices where changing the PRL on-the-go was simple so I used the "00001.prl" a lot. This PRL, essentially, puts you on Verizon's towers, full speed 3G. I can honestly say that while Verizon's speeds tend to be far more consistent than Sprint's that even though I had the chance to get out of Sprint this month (for free) that instead of going to Big Red I used that to upgrade to the Epic Touch without hesitation...The data speeds can drag-ass in a highly congested area at times but unless it's lunch time in a 1-bar area I don't tend to dip below 500kbps and if it is later in the day (or evening) and/or in a sparsely populated area (or higher-income area, draw your own conclusions) I have seen as high as 2.7mbps...my friend lives in a low-population high income area and he may be the only Sprint subscriber for miles, lol, and they get 2.5~2.7mbps all day every day. There are also times/places where Sprint's 3G speed absolutely spanks Verizon's.
...as far as 4G goes it can be blazing fast but you probably won't ever get the signal indoors unless you are in a 4G saturated metropolitan environment. I hear lots of complaints about 4G speed but when I get connected it's always faster than my home internet (6mbps, the most you can get from residential ATT DSL around here), I have seen 15mbps too.
As far as price is concerned Sprint wins hands down especially if you consider the unlimited data and free roaming. Voice roaming is unlimited. There is a "soft" limit of 3G roaming at 300mb, but, that is a floating line. If you aren't usually roaming but happen to travel somewhere that you are forced to roam at worst they will call or send you a letter telling you that if you do it again your contract may be terminated. But as long as it doesn't happen at work or at home they are mostly forgiving...and if not? That's a free out on your contract and now you have a $500-$700 (retail) phone for trade-up or resale to go back to Verizon.
EDIT: Oh yeah, battery life. It's killer. Very very killer compared to a Moment, Hero, Evo 4G and Evo 3D this thing slaughters them all. It's hard to say since I have been using my phone more than breathing these past 2 days, but, considering that I'm very impressed....*very* impressed.
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Agreed. Carrier first. A phone shouldn't really be a reason to switch, although this phone is pretty awesome.
Sprint has been AWESOME in nearly all areas. They seem better than VZW for me in rural areas. I live in the middle of nowhere and have EXCELLENT EVDOrA signal.
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eakrish said:
I don't need a phone to tether, just need a bad ass phone that looks great, feels super fast and has great battery life. I also want a great looking display and widgets that are good for social media.
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Verizon has plenty of phones in that department.. and nearly any Android phone would fill those needs. If you want the best Android phone available right now, this is it.
Also you may want to keep an eye out for the sprint network meeting October 7th. They are going to talk about this new thing called "network vision".
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I switched on Friday and I'm already starting to regret it - I haven't seen a 3G download speed higher than around 90kbps here. The phone is absolutely amazing on wifi and I love the device itself, but out around town it's pretty bad. I tried to download a 2MB or so app at a restaurant where I had a full 5 bars of signal last night and it was still trying to download 15+ minutes later because of how slow the actual download rate was. It's worse than a dial-up modem at time.
I wasn't even thinking about the unlimited data on VZW when I did it too - did I lose that now even if I do a winback?
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I switched on Friday and I'm already starting to regret it - I haven't seen a 3G download speed higher than around 90kbps here. The phone is absolutely amazing on wifi and I love the device itself, but out around town it's pretty bad. I tried to download a 2MB or so app at a restaurant where I had a full 5 bars of signal last night and it was still trying to download 15+ minutes later because of how slow the actual download rate was. It's worse than a dial-up modem at time.
I wasn't even thinking about the unlimited data on VZW when I did it too - did I lose that now even if I do a winback?
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I think they are doing something for the launch of the iPHONE. It was never this slow until recently. It had better go back to how it was or I will ditch their asses
TabsAZ said:
I switched on Friday and I'm already starting to regret it - I haven't seen a 3G download speed higher than around 90kbps here. The phone is absolutely amazing on wifi and I love the device itself, but out around town it's pretty bad. I tried to download a 2MB or so app at a restaurant where I had a full 5 bars of signal last night and it was still trying to download 15+ minutes later because of how slow the actual download rate was. It's worse than a dial-up modem at time.
I wasn't even thinking about the unlimited data on VZW when I did it too - did I lose that now even if I do a winback?
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Did you investigate Sprint coverage before you switched? What is signal strength like? Are you metering 90 kbps with SpeedTest app, tethering, or a program like DU Meter?
I'm guessing your PRL is up to date..
I'd also make sure you don't have any background apps downloading stuff.
Also, are you saying 90 kilo-bytes per second or 90 kilo-bits per second. 90 kilo-bytes is almost 1Mbps, and is a low-side average for 3G. That could also vary by network congestion, etc.
90 kilo-bits sounds like 1xRTT and not EVDO.
I'd also check with other users, or try a mobile broadband card if you can.
You will lose unlimited from VZW if you go back, but like I posted earlier, I am surprised they didn't terminate you to get you on limited like they did me.
Im currently fed up with Sprint's .30mbps download in my area. I was thinking about switching to Verizon for the Galaxy Nexus, but I couldn't imagine giving up my anymobile any time or unlimited data. Even though the data is slow and terrible now, in 1 year or more, they will have lte (maybe) and then I would kill myself for not just waiting it out.
As I said in another thread milling over what-to-do regarding the same decision:
Being over-charged for data you get is preferable to being charged anything for data you don't get.
Sounds like you already answered your question.
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Sounds like you already answered your question.
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I kind of did. I'm just stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I really started noticing slow data when I got my Evo 4G the day it came out. I'm in Phoenix and I still don't have 4G. I've waited 2 years since I got the evo 4g to get 4g and over that period of time, 3g just keeps getting slower and slower. Im sitting on the second floor of my house with 4 out of 6 bars getting .32mbps. I can see the tower from my window because its on a light pole at the school a block away from me.
Faster data just means you get to your cap faster.
What's the point?
I use WiFi enough that it doesn't matter to me.
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Faster data just means you get to your cap faster.
What's the point?
I use WiFi enough that it doesn't matter to me.
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This. I only use 3g while driving and for streaming music.
Holding out for sprint lte may be worth it if you're in a big city where you can almost guarantee it coming and they keep it unlimited. You may want to stay month to month until u decide
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I feel your pain. My speeds are awful. Verizon is roaming in my area. At&t is pretty fast here. It gets about 8 mbps down and around 5 up. A lot faster than sprint.
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Holding out for sprint lte may be worth it if you're in a big city where you can almost guarantee it coming and they keep it unlimited. You may want to stay month to month until u decide
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I'm in Los Angeles - pretty big city. They've had about 2 years to get wimax working here- I get about 500k when I actually can connect to 4G before it drops. How many years you going to wait for LTE to be acceptable in a "big" city? Ask people in NYC how much they are enjoying the "fast" Wimax they are receiving.
Oh and how is that unlimited working out for people who bought data connections - do you really think Sprint who was the first to charge $10 for rich data experience on newer cells is not going to stiff you on unlimited data soon? if they ever did offer decent data speeds, I'm sure they'd charge another $10 or $25 for an "enhanced" data experience.
If I'm thirsty and someone said I can have 5 gallons of water as fast as I can drink it or I can have one teaspoonful per hour each month with no limit - I'll take the 5 gallons.
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25mbs down and 6mbs up? Amazing!
Nothing like downloading a movie in under ten minutes... better be a good movie though since that uses up a good chunk of the 2GB you get per month.
Sorry, but it has to be about more than just raw speed.
This is like saying "I have a Lamborghini! But I can only drive in 40 miles a month"
The real question is, does 2mbit/s do it for you?
Because I don't know one thing you can't do on a phone [from stream music to streaming video] at 2mbit/s.
These aren't servers, they're phones.
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The numbers may not be the same the point is.
Does your current data speed work for you?
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Faster data just means you get to your cap faster.
What's the point?
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A lot of people seem to miss the point here. Yeah, you can get to the cap faster, but getting the faster speed is really just expecting you to use the same data amount, you just get it faster.
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I'm in Los Angeles - pretty big city. They've had about 2 years to get wimax working here- I get about 500k when I actually can connect to 4G before it drops. How many years you going to wait for LTE to be acceptable in a "big" city? Ask people in NYC how much they are enjoying the "fast" Wimax they are receiving.
Oh and how is that unlimited working out for people who bought data connections - do you really think Sprint who was the first to charge $10 for rich data experience on newer cells is not going to stiff you on unlimited data soon? if they ever did offer decent data speeds, I'm sure they'd charge another $10 or $25 for an "enhanced" data experience.
If I'm thirsty and someone said I can have 5 gallons of water as fast as I can drink it or I can have one teaspoonful per hour each month with no limit - I'll take the 5 gallons.
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Well thats not entirely fair. 2GB isn't that much. In Cleveland I get great 4g speeds and good
(just as good as Verizon) 3g speeds, my biggest complaint is Toledo speeds (attrocious) where i'm spending most of my time nowadays, which is the main reason sprint isn't working for me great right now.
I'd switch if I didnt save tons of money on sprint (24% discount on top of their cheap plan), but I was just saying verizons biggest feature is LTE which sprint is supposed to have in 8 months or less, and 200+ markets in 2013.
No need to dog my suggestion, sprint is still cheaper than every other carrier but if their lte is unlimited and no extra charge other than the 10/Mo charge they already have, sprint will be very attractove.
switching to verizon/att on a 2yr contract is a big deal, much more pricey than sprint too. Unless you are well under 2GB and have unlimited pockets staying month to month til lte pricing is announced isn't bad.
I get your frustration, but coverage in your area is different. Sprint guarantees certain speeds for 3g/4g so if you're not meeting those call and they should let u cancel.
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I'd move for sure. Why have a device like this that crawls.
Doesn't Verizon have an unlimited option?
Sorry if that's been answered.
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I'd move for sure. Why have a device like this that crawls.
Doesn't Verizon have an unlimited option?
Sorry if that's been answered.
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No.
Not unless you're grandfathered in.
This is why I got a VZW line before the cap hit...best of both worlds. Will probably be phasing my Sprint line out in March.
Just to be clear....can't purchase say 5, 10 G limits on Verizon like T-Mobile?
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Just to be clear....can't purchase say 5, 10 G limits on Verizon like T-Mobile?
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Sure can if you have that insane amount of money...
The new plans are $30 for 2GB per month, $50 for 5GB, and $80 for 10GB.
[Those are all per line and monthly charges]
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388130,00.asp#fbid=xZhcarNKQX2
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This is why I got a VZW line before the cap hit...best of both worlds. Will probably be phasing my Sprint line out in March.
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Grandfather won't last forever.
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I am in the same boat, I drop calls left and right at my house and I recently moved and the data is just pure horrible.
I never go over 2 gb a month, The max I ever used was 3.5gb and that was when I first got the evo3d and I was doing speedtests left and right. I stream radio and music my way to work and from work. Now I have the gs2.
If I go verizon I will start out with 2 and I will just pay 10 bucks for the next 1gig and I am sure I will never go over that and my monthly discount will make up for that difference.
I used to get decent speeds at work but ever since the iphone launch I cant even hit half a meg, in the city I live I never hit even quarter mb ever since I moved here. I work in sacramento and the speeds on 3g have gotten worse, even 4g is capped at 2mb now it seems.
This! Over thr past few months I average maybe 3-4gb a month on Sprint, 3g mmostly as 4g iis way inconsistent and I a tired of data drops and awful battery life on it.
That being said, during peak hours incdenver, Sprint 3g is crawling in places I get 2mbps during off peak hours. Lately, at my gym, I can't even stream Pandora cuz it's so slow. I ended up getting tmobile for 14 days and I got about 7mbps average pretty much everywhere! Why'd I cancel? G2x was a letdown and I get sprint free. But seriously, caps are caps and I docsee myself aas being a heavy user and oon mobile, 5gb is plenty. I'm mobile a lot and rarely in one place to use wifi, I'd like to be on a network where, oh I dunno, I can at least stream youtube and not get stuck at 100-300kbps?
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A lot of people seem to miss the point here. Yeah, you can get to the cap faster, but getting the faster speed is really just expecting you to use the same data amount, you just get it faster.
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I just switched to sprint a few days ago and I am NOT satisfied! I FREAKING LOVE the Epic 4G Touch and it makes me happy to just unlock it and happier when my friends are like WOAH, that's a big phone, WOAH thats a nice screen WOAH its fast <3, but then they open up the facebook app and they're like ehh, this phone sucks. The problem is really with the network. That is atleast what I believe. I live in an area that doesn't have 4G, and NO companies have 4G out here, I was going to go with AT&T, but there was a problem with my credit or something, so I tried Verizon (wasnt really too interested) but they wanted me to fax in papers, then I tried sprint, worked out ALL ok , and I got like the best phone ever, but the 3G speeds make me cry, I just did a speed test and I got average of 15 kb/s down.. Not sure if there is an alternate radio I could use or something, or if other people have the issue, I have been thinking about going back and returning the phone and getting Verizon, but all of their good phones are more than $200 and I might end up owing sprint money. Ideas? Reflections?
We all know springs network sucks, thanks for reminding us (or at least me) that I'm stuck with this spotty network for 2 years...
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You've been a member here for 2+ years, and you didn't research the Sprint network speed before going with them????
Well, the truth is, in most places their network speed sucks, so, if impressing your friends, and network speed is important to you, you will be sorely disappointed.
If you want the best phone, at the lowest prices, and don't give a damn about network speeds, then you are with the right provider.
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You've been a member here for 2+ years, and you didn't research the Sprint network speed before going with them????
Well, the truth is, in most places their network speed sucks, so, if impressing your friends, and network speed is important to you, you will be sorely disappointed.
If you want the best phone, at the lowest prices, and don't give a damn about network speeds, then you are with the right provider.
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Lol, yeah... I was just so excited to actually get signal because I had tmobile then moved to an area where there really wasnt any tmobile and I saw sprint had "3G" coverage went to the store and yeah... I'm kicking myself for not looking around on here. I know that the 4G is **decent** but I miss my damn T-Mobile 4G, it was pretty damn good. If I get enough money and can argue enough, I'm probably switching to verizon. So there might be an Epic 4G Touch for sale soon, and I will have ****ty credit
well, the phone is fantastic; for me, I could care less about network speeds. When I need fast internet, I use my home computer..
for email, phone calls, texting, etc, these sucky speeds are fine for me, but, if your phone is your only connection to the internet, Sprint is a tough pill to swallow..
I see, its not completely awful for me, I think that its mainly a few towers in my city that suck because I can get 100 kb/s down sometimes, but 15 kb/s is normal for me. I just have combined ADHD with Facebook addiction and I am just a web junkie, so it kills me sometimes lol.
do you have a home computer/faster internet at home, or is this it?
if you want hope sprint is ugrading their network. At least for me this summer - about october my speeds at my house and work and around the area i averaged 200-500 for speed but as of late my speeds have increased greatly and now i average 800-about 1mb and sometimes i can get up to 1.2-1.6 mbps after work hours. My signal strength has also increased and i am seeing 3-4 bars in my house where before i wasnt seeing more than 2. So sprint is working on it and at least for me i am seeing some improvments.
yeah, at least sprint is in the process of upgrading their network. You will see improved speeds in the next year or two.
If you have access to wifi, that may be an option. The Sprint data speed at my house is pretty low (.. 100K level). However, this phone can get up to 18Mb down via my wireless router through my cable.
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If you have access to wifi, that may be an option. The Sprint data speed at my house is pretty low (.. 100K level). However, this phone can get up to 18Mb down via my wireless router through my cable.
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True, however what about when your not home? The thing that really gets my goat is when I force roam onto Alltel or verizon and get 1mbit+ when on sprint it's usually ~100 kbit.... or worse :/
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do you have a home computer/faster internet at home, or is this it?
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I have wifi at home, but wifi eats the battery and I dont like being plugged in all the time lol
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if you want hope sprint is ugrading their network. At least for me this summer - , about october my speeds at my house and work and around the area i averaged 200-500 for speed but as of late my speeds have increased greatly and now i average 800-about 1mb and sometimes i can get up to 1.2-1.6 mbps after work hours. My signal strength has also increased and i am seeing 3-4 bars in my house where before i wasnt seeing more than 2. So sprint is working on it and at least for me i am seeing some improvments.
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Thats really good to hear! I hope those upgrades come in my direction! I hope they are realizing that everyone else has upgraded networks and the speeds are sorta competitive. Net speeds is a BIG make or break to me, and verizon is looking awfully good right now, the only problem is they have no SGS II, but Im about to go annoy the Droid Charge people on the forum
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If you have access to wifi, that may be an option. The Sprint data speed at my house is pretty low (.. 100K level). However, this phone can get up to 18Mb down via my wireless router through my cable.
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I agree, the wifi is great on the phone, but like before, it noms the battery juices
I have also noticed better 3g speeds. Long island NY.
Of course wifi is just silly fast on this phone, 4g areas are limited where I am but when working very fast.
The drawback to 4g IMO is the battery drain... silly fast when running, worse than wifi IMO and can't turn off when screen off...
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Jameson JC said:
I have also noticed better 3g speeds. Long island NY.
Of course wifi is just silly fast on this phone, 4g areas are limited where I am but when working very fast.
The drawback to 4g IMO is the battery drain... silly fast when running, worse than wifi IMO and can't turn off when screen off...
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From my understanding, WiMAX isnt't too far from WiFi lol, I also think the WiMAX radio sleeps when there is no data being transmitted, so it kinda helps with battery drain. Ill take a better look this weekend, I travel about 2 hours from my house to visit family and there is 4G there and I LOVE it lol
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I just switched to sprint a few days ago and I am NOT satisfied! I FREAKING LOVE the Epic 4G Touch and it makes me happy to just unlock it and happier when my friends are like WOAH, that's a big phone, WOAH thats a nice screen WOAH its fast <3, but then they open up the facebook app and they're like ehh, this phone sucks. The problem is really with the network. That is atleast what I believe. I live in an area that doesn't have 4G, and NO companies have 4G out here, I was going to go with AT&T, but there was a problem with my credit or something, so I tried Verizon (wasnt really too interested) but they wanted me to fax in papers, then I tried sprint, worked out ALL ok , and I got like the best phone ever, but the 3G speeds make me cry, I just did a speed test and I got average of 15 kb/s down.. Not sure if there is an alternate radio I could use or something, or if other people have the issue, I have been thinking about going back and returning the phone and getting Verizon, but all of their good phones are more than $200 and I might end up owing sprint money. Ideas? Reflections?
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You should either complain or ask for a refund.
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You should either complain or ask for a refund.
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Im really thinkig about it. I might just argue witu verizon and get that. I checked coverage at the college im going to and there is no sprint coverage there either but there is verizon coverage lol
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I concur this phone is by far the best! But sprint 3g sucks and 4g is poor. But tmobile 4g is fast all time lte.speeds
..but sidekick 4g sucks so i left
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From my understanding, WiMAX isnt't too far from WiFi lol, I also think the WiMAX radio sleeps when there is no data being transmitted, so it kinda helps with battery drain. Ill take a better look this weekend, I travel about 2 hours from my house to visit family and there is 4G there and I LOVE it lol
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My city is a 4G area, but coverage is pretty spotty (of course). So, on a whim, I decided to see how bad of a hit I would take leaving 4G on all the time. Over the past week so far, I can unplug around 8AM, go to work, and when I get back around 6PM, I'll have about 40% battery left (fairly light usage).
Note that in my office I have zero 4G signal (heck, even voice is pretty spotty), so pretty much from 8:30AM to 5:30PM it just sits there and searches for 4G. I'm guesstimating maybe 15-16 hours of battery life under these conditions (again fairly light usage).
When I'm actually connected to 4G, battery life is quite good from what I've seen. I think it could easily do 20+ hours with medium usage, if I could get an all-day-reliable signal (big if there).
Leaving 4G on with my old Epic would kill the battery in short order (I'm thinking maybe 8 hours), so the Epic Touch is a MAJOR improvement for me.
I was getting about 200Kb/S and I removed the sprint proxies from the ##DATA# and also switched my home agent to somewhere nearby. All of this got me to about 1200+ Kb/S. Give it a try, I feel like my phone is blazing fast in all aspects.
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I was getting about 200Kb/S and I removed the sprint proxies from the ##DATA# and also switched my home agent to somewhere nearby. All of this got me to about 1200+ Kb/S. Give it a try, I feel like my phone is blazing fast in all aspects.
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Could you by any chance walk me through that? lol I looked around and didnt see any proxies or Home networks, I'm a CDMA noob =\
Isnt hspa+ good enough. I mean it might be just me but im on wifi unless im at school where i dont even use it that much
You are right.
WiFi and 3G is enough for me.. I'm in school and sometimes I use wifi on school and sometimes 3G when I check xda forum news or when I check FB...
I have actually never used 4G and I don't need it.
I'm in the UK, and I don't care particularly.
It's only just launched here this week, and even then it's only in a few major cities (none of which I live in or visit often). Hell, I barely get 3G indoors in my own town. I'm generally either at home, at work, or in coffee shops/bars, all of which have WiFi.
On top of that, the cheapest 4G offering (bit under £40/m) only gives you 500Mb, at which point you lose access until you buy more (no, it doesn't just slow down). Which makes it pointless. You'd burn through your allowance in just a few minutes if you used it for all the funky stuff they say it's for "Hey, watch HD video on your phone!"
Until it's cheap and essentially unlimited, it's not for me...
For normal web surfing, 1.8Mbps is good enough for me.
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WiFi and 3G is enough for me.. I'm in school and sometimes I use wifi on school and sometimes 3G when I check xda forum news or when I check FB...
I have actually never used 4G and I don't need it.
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Yeah same, I'm at school most of the time so I just use the wifi instead.
You obviously haven't tethered LTE to an Xbox and streamed Netflix in full HD and have better ping than half your friends.
LTE is a wonderful technology and having unlimited on Verizon is awesome.
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I'm lucky enough to be in an area where Sprint has lte live, and it sure seems amazing. Thing is, I only have sprints 3g to compare it to, which is pretty much unusable most the time.
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I'm in Australia, we have ****ty ADSL... for giggles i was in a Telstra store (carrier with 4g) they had some HTC something or over on the demo bench. I loaded speed test and just started giggling to myself.
The thing was hitting 36-39Mbps down and 19-29Mbps up.
I sat there and just hit retest a few times as i trued to muffle the fits of laughter i was experiencing by all this power in my hands.
For comparison. I'm getting 7Mpbs down and 0.5, to 1Mpbs up on my land line ADLS2 connection.. of which im paying $60 a month for unlimited Data.
I Care about LTE
Ill give a F**k when Vodafone and 02 start broadcasting 4G (which i think is next summer). Until then i dont care. 3G here in the UK is as fast as 4G in the states. And i cant wait to get my Nexus 4.
4G is a good thing that needs to come to Australia, but I don't think it will be widely available for another few years. Telstra and Optus really want to keep the monopoly on it and charge outlandish fees.
Will be nice when it finally replaces 3G and becomes standard though. My internet is slow as balls.
Not going to happen soon, maybe a few more years after LTE matures.
Why would people care about something they don't have? I didn't give a hoot about 4G until I actually used it and once you see how much of a difference it makes in everyday usage you will want it too. I will, although, be much more impressed with it when it doesn't eat my battery like the cookie monster with a cookie cake.
LTE is pretty damn awesome. I live in South Korea, and my wife's Optimus LTE2 absolutely blazes. The 3g on my Gnex is fine for all intents and purposes (honestly - I don't download anything large enough on the phone to make the speed a killer difference), but if you've got LTE then it is truly fantastic.
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I get H+ with my network and unlimited tether able data, and its perfectly fine for anything I throw at it, even hardcore online gaming. At the prices 4G is at here in the UK, coupled with the fact it doesn't reach indoors (well the crappy 4G from EE doesn't, I realise the 800mhz band one will) means that I have zero interest at all ATM.
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I've come to the conclusion that people that can't have a certain technology try to justify their lack of need for it. When that isn't enough for them, they make polls or threads trying to get everyone else to see their way.
I see it time and again in these threads.
VZW LTE is great! their 3g is horrific and brings tears to my eyes. Such a roller coaster ride with VZW's data. I'm thinking that I might like the more consistent speeds of t-mobile's HSPA+ here in Houston. My VZW GN is my work phone so it will suck having to take on a cell plan again but it'll only be the 30 dollar pre-paid so it won't be too bad and I could always stop service at any time. Now I'm thinking if i get the N4 maybe i'll just stick the VZW sim into a novatel mifi for a mobile hotspot.
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I've come to the conclusion that people that can't have a certain technology try to justify their lack of need for it. When that isn't enough for them, they make polls or threads trying to get everyone else to see their way.
I see it time and again in these threads.
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Right on.
Can't afford the Nexus 4 so i'm not getting it.
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Right on.
Can't afford the Nexus 4 so i'm not getting it.
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I shouldn't get it, but my inner geek is pushing me to.