Isnt hspa+ good enough. I mean it might be just me but im on wifi unless im at school where i dont even use it that much
You are right.
WiFi and 3G is enough for me.. I'm in school and sometimes I use wifi on school and sometimes 3G when I check xda forum news or when I check FB...
I have actually never used 4G and I don't need it.
I'm in the UK, and I don't care particularly.
It's only just launched here this week, and even then it's only in a few major cities (none of which I live in or visit often). Hell, I barely get 3G indoors in my own town. I'm generally either at home, at work, or in coffee shops/bars, all of which have WiFi.
On top of that, the cheapest 4G offering (bit under £40/m) only gives you 500Mb, at which point you lose access until you buy more (no, it doesn't just slow down). Which makes it pointless. You'd burn through your allowance in just a few minutes if you used it for all the funky stuff they say it's for "Hey, watch HD video on your phone!"
Until it's cheap and essentially unlimited, it's not for me...
For normal web surfing, 1.8Mbps is good enough for me.
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WiFi and 3G is enough for me.. I'm in school and sometimes I use wifi on school and sometimes 3G when I check xda forum news or when I check FB...
I have actually never used 4G and I don't need it.
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Yeah same, I'm at school most of the time so I just use the wifi instead.
You obviously haven't tethered LTE to an Xbox and streamed Netflix in full HD and have better ping than half your friends.
LTE is a wonderful technology and having unlimited on Verizon is awesome.
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I'm lucky enough to be in an area where Sprint has lte live, and it sure seems amazing. Thing is, I only have sprints 3g to compare it to, which is pretty much unusable most the time.
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I'm in Australia, we have ****ty ADSL... for giggles i was in a Telstra store (carrier with 4g) they had some HTC something or over on the demo bench. I loaded speed test and just started giggling to myself.
The thing was hitting 36-39Mbps down and 19-29Mbps up.
I sat there and just hit retest a few times as i trued to muffle the fits of laughter i was experiencing by all this power in my hands.
For comparison. I'm getting 7Mpbs down and 0.5, to 1Mpbs up on my land line ADLS2 connection.. of which im paying $60 a month for unlimited Data.
I Care about LTE
Ill give a F**k when Vodafone and 02 start broadcasting 4G (which i think is next summer). Until then i dont care. 3G here in the UK is as fast as 4G in the states. And i cant wait to get my Nexus 4.
4G is a good thing that needs to come to Australia, but I don't think it will be widely available for another few years. Telstra and Optus really want to keep the monopoly on it and charge outlandish fees.
Will be nice when it finally replaces 3G and becomes standard though. My internet is slow as balls.
Not going to happen soon, maybe a few more years after LTE matures.
Why would people care about something they don't have? I didn't give a hoot about 4G until I actually used it and once you see how much of a difference it makes in everyday usage you will want it too. I will, although, be much more impressed with it when it doesn't eat my battery like the cookie monster with a cookie cake.
LTE is pretty damn awesome. I live in South Korea, and my wife's Optimus LTE2 absolutely blazes. The 3g on my Gnex is fine for all intents and purposes (honestly - I don't download anything large enough on the phone to make the speed a killer difference), but if you've got LTE then it is truly fantastic.
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I get H+ with my network and unlimited tether able data, and its perfectly fine for anything I throw at it, even hardcore online gaming. At the prices 4G is at here in the UK, coupled with the fact it doesn't reach indoors (well the crappy 4G from EE doesn't, I realise the 800mhz band one will) means that I have zero interest at all ATM.
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I've come to the conclusion that people that can't have a certain technology try to justify their lack of need for it. When that isn't enough for them, they make polls or threads trying to get everyone else to see their way.
I see it time and again in these threads.
VZW LTE is great! their 3g is horrific and brings tears to my eyes. Such a roller coaster ride with VZW's data. I'm thinking that I might like the more consistent speeds of t-mobile's HSPA+ here in Houston. My VZW GN is my work phone so it will suck having to take on a cell plan again but it'll only be the 30 dollar pre-paid so it won't be too bad and I could always stop service at any time. Now I'm thinking if i get the N4 maybe i'll just stick the VZW sim into a novatel mifi for a mobile hotspot.
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I've come to the conclusion that people that can't have a certain technology try to justify their lack of need for it. When that isn't enough for them, they make polls or threads trying to get everyone else to see their way.
I see it time and again in these threads.
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Right on.
Can't afford the Nexus 4 so i'm not getting it.
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Right on.
Can't afford the Nexus 4 so i'm not getting it.
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I shouldn't get it, but my inner geek is pushing me to.
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Now that verizon has the Samsung galaxy nexus, I was wondering if anyone heard or knows any sort of news for the release on tmobile? I was thinking to import it but I don't want to go through the hassle of sending it back and forth if something were to happen to it.
No , nothing flying around anywhere about that. If it ever does, it will be a while. The ATT GSM variant passed through the FCC a while back, so ATT is def getting it. You might be in for a looong wait if you decide not to import, that is if Tmo even gets it, which I doubt we will.
I'd be very wary of signing a contract with T-Mobile right now. They are looking to get out of the US market as quickly as possible. If the rumors about selling contracts to Leap Wireless, or the DirecTV deal are true, I'm not sure I'd want to be under contract knowing that I might be stuck in limbo once the company decides their long term plans.
I just got off of them after being a customer since 2002 after the Voicestream buyout. It feels good!
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No , nothing flying around anywhere about that. If it ever does, it will be a while. The ATT GSM variant passed through the FCC a while back, so ATT is def getting it. You might be in for a looong wait if you decide not to import, that is if Tmo even gets it, which I doubt we will.
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Wrong, that was the Telus version that passed the FCC just like how the Bell Mobile passed the FCC a few weeks before that. There has yet to be a GNexus for GSM USA carriers that has even been hinted at with filings.
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Wrong, that was the Telus version that passed the FCC just like how the Bell Mobile passed the FCC a few weeks before that. There has yet to be a GNexus for GSM USA carriers that has even been hinted at with filings.
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Well initially the GT-i9250T was hinted to come to ATT, so if this one is headed for Canada instead of ATT now then there ya have it. It's gonna be a while if ever.
as of right now there is no reason to expect a TMO USA launch anytime soon.
the device exists but there is no reason to expect it.
an AT&T launch will probably be in the spring however.
If your a tmo customer, your best bet is to just import the phone like most of us here did. it's a lot more money, but it's worth it.
and as far as TMO dying. tmo isn't going away for a few more years. i've been with them for 10 years and i'll stay with them for as long as i possibly can. don't feel like giving up my nice cheap plan with unlimited data.
If the Galaxy Nexus were to come to att, would I be able to unlock it for tmobile? Would hspa+ work work with an att phone?
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If the Galaxy Nexus were to come to att, would I be able to unlock it for tmobile? Would hspa+ work work with an att phone?
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The International version features pentaband. If the AT&T version is pentaband then yes it will work.
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as of right now there is no reason to expect a TMO USA launch anytime soon.
the device exists but there is no reason to expect it.
an AT&T launch will probably be in the spring however.
If your a tmo customer, your best bet is to just import the phone like most of us here did. it's a lot more money, but it's worth it.
and as far as TMO dying. tmo isn't going away for a few more years. i've been with them for 10 years and i'll stay with them for as long as i possibly can. don't feel like giving up my nice cheap plan with unlimited data.
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Exactly! TMO is actually a great company for customer service and for phone/data service, as long as you live in an area that they cover. I have to be honest, people keep bragging about LTE and all that. Who needs 40Mbps on their phone?? Unless you're tethering, 2Mbps suffices.
Now that TMO inherited a nice $4 billion cash bonus and spectrum from AT&T, we might see them continue to roll out even more bandwidth. They're already enabling 3G over the 1800mhz band, so iPhones are able to latch on in certain markets. They're not going anywhere...yet.
The $700 price I paid for this phone was well worth it. Keep in mind (because I did not know this) that you will only have a warranty through the company who bought it for you (Expansys, Negri, etc). Samsung will not give you a warranty.
I hope that tmobile does expand but I'm just not sure if it's worth paying 640 on negro electronics.. I will try to sell my vibrant for 200 but that is still 440 that I need to spend on this phone... Is it really worth it for a phone?
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I hope that tmobile does expand but I'm just not sure if it's worth paying 640 on negro electronics.. I will try to sell my vibrant for 200 but that is still 440 that I need to spend on this phone... Is it really worth it for a phone?
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YES! .......
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Exactly! TMO is actually a great company for customer service and for phone/data service, as long as you live in an area that they cover. I have to be honest, people keep bragging about LTE and all that. Who needs 40Mbps on their phone?? Unless you're tethering, 2Mbps suffices.
Now that TMO inherited a nice $4 billion cash bonus and spectrum from AT&T, we might see them continue to roll out even more bandwidth. They're already enabling 3G over the 1800mhz band, so iPhones are able to latch on in certain markets. They're not going anywhere...yet.
The $700 price I paid for this phone was well worth it. Keep in mind (because I did not know this) that you will only have a warranty through the company who bought it for you (Expansys, Negri, etc). Samsung will not give you a warranty.
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well, i live in one of their 42Mbps locations, and honestly, i get pissed that i walk into a tmo store and see them getting 25-30Mbps down and i can't get over 5Mbps.
and then theres the lack of 3G in my home unless i walk outside, and signal cutting out in the hockey stadium, but considering my family is paying about $50 less per month than if we were with another company, we put up with it.
i'm 99% sure my signal issues are due to my plan or some other bull**** though. gonna go to a store with my Gnex and switch sim cards with someone in the store and see what happens, because i know the nexus is capable of 21mbps down. so if they're getting 30 i should be getting around 15, not 1-5.
Same here. I'm in NYC where we should be getting those super-fast data speeds, but the best I've ever gotten is about 5Mbps. Florida is more flat so I assume you should be getting better speeds than me, especially if the phones in the store are reaching that high. It's most likely your SIM, as you said.
Even still, getting 2Mbps and paying much less for the data plus having the capability to tether for free (with or without root) is a huge plus. Comes in real handy when tethering.
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Same here. I'm in NYC where we should be getting those super-fast data speeds, but the best I've ever gotten is about 5Mbps. Florida is more flat so I assume you should be getting better speeds than me, especially if the phones in the store are reaching that high. It's most likely your SIM, as you said.
Even still, getting 2Mbps and paying much less for the data plus having the capability to tether for free (with or without root) is a huge plus. Comes in real handy when tethering.
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oh yeah the tethering alone is enough of a reason to stay. me and my girlfriend go up to orlando a lot, and even though the hotels give you free internet, a lot of times it sucks, like 1Mbps or less (probably damn people torrenting lol) so i usually get around 3-5 up there so i toss on the wifi tether and we both have internet. her on her netbook and me on my transformer.
comes in handy at my school too when their crappy wifi kicks out lol.
I actually have changed my sim cards, and even had tech support take a look at our account and they said they fixed it. I'm getting better DL speeds on the GN than my N1 though so thats at least nice.
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well, i live in one of their 42Mbps locations, and honestly, i get pissed that i walk into a tmo store and see them getting 25-30Mbps down and i can't get over 5Mbps.
and then theres the lack of 3G in my home unless i walk outside, and signal cutting out in the hockey stadium, but considering my family is paying about $50 less per month than if we were with another company, we put up with it.
i'm 99% sure my signal issues are due to my plan or some other bull**** though. gonna go to a store with my Gnex and switch sim cards with someone in the store and see what happens, because i know the nexus is capable of 21mbps down. so if they're getting 30 i should be getting around 15, not 1-5.
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Just because your phone is HSPA+ (21Mb) ready, doesn't mean that you're gonna get 21Mb!!!!!!!!
keep in mind that HSPA is an advanced 3G network, depending on where you are,
and the connection to the closest tower etc., the numbers are gonna vary. I'm in NYC and around, I average 4-9 Mb, which realistically unless you're tethering to multiple devices, what more do you need??
Oh and I would love to see that 25-30Mb download, really........ That's usually what I get at home when connected to my FiOS router , of course that's Mb, not MB.. So when I hit 25-30 with FiOS, I realistically top off at 4Megs/Sec Download, which is effin fast........
The Galaxy S2 is the fastest device currently in the store, with its HSPA++ (42Mb) Radio, that device averages 5-13Mb, even when the Thunderbolt came out on Verizon being one of the first LTE if not the first LTE device, I ran tests in was hitting 12-19Mb, now, after millions more hopped on the network, it hardly breaks 10-12....
One more thing, even if you can pull 100Mb/Sec, I'f the server you're pulling from only allows 10Mb/Sec Upload, your 100Mb doesn't mean squat ..
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Just because your phone is HSPA+ (21Mb) ready, doesn't mean that you're gonna get 21Mb!!!!!!!!
keep in mind that HSPA is an advanced 3G network, depending on where you are,
and the connection to the closest tower etc., the numbers are gonna vary. I'm in NYC and around, I average 4-9 Mb, which realistically unless you're tethering to multiple devices, what more do you need??
Oh and I would love to see that 25-30Mb download, really........ That's usually what I get at home when connected to my FiOS router , of course that's Mb, not MB.. So when I hit 25-30 with FiOS, I realistically top off at 4Megs/Sec Download, which is effin fast........
The Galaxy S2 is the fastest device currently in the store, with its HSPA++ (42Mb) Radio, that device averages 5-13Mb, even when the Thunderbolt came out on Verizon being one of the first LTE if not the first LTE device, I ran tests in was hitting 12-19Mb, now, after millions more hopped on the network, it hardly breaks 10-12....
One more thing, even if you can pull 100Mb/Sec, I'f the server you're pulling from only allows 10Mb/Sec Upload, your 100Mb doesn't mean squat ..
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first off, be nicer in the future, you see I've been here for a long time and have contributed a lot around the forums, that generally means i know what i'm talking about so you don't have to repeat the obvious and add all the exclamation points, it just makes you seem like a bit of a douche.
NOW. if you don't believe me i'll go back and take a damn picture. I saw two guys at a local t-mobile store one with an HTC Amaze and the other with a Galaxy S 2. The HTC Amaze hit 23Mbps download 7Mbps upload. the GS2 hit 33Mbps download, 10Mbps upload. these weren't results, they did it right in front of me and i watched the whole thing.
My Nexus One, which features a 7.1Mbps max chip, in the same store, in the exact same spot, got 1.5Mbps. i've yet to test my galaxy nexus in that store.
now obviously as you said, the amount of people on the network and location makes a difference. But when i see phones hitting 20+ and my 21Mbps capable device isn't getting over 1.5, there's an issue.
so far, best i've gotten on my GN is 5.5Mbps. which i'm perfectly happy with, i just want that all the time, not this 1.5mbps BS when i'm in a 42 area.
and from the sounds of it, you live in an area that has really crappy signal, because most of the GN LTE speed tests i've seen are 30Mbps+ Saw one that hit 75Mbps, though not sure if i believe that one.
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first off, don't treat someone like a dumb ass when they might know (or in my case know) what they're talking about. all it does is make you seem like a ****.
NOW. if you don't believe me i'll go back and take a damn picture. I saw two guys at a local t-mobile store one with an HTC Amaze and the other with a Galaxy S 2. The HTC Amaze hit 23Mbps download 7Mbps upload. the GS2 hit 33Mbps download, 10Mbps upload. these weren't results, they did it right in front of me and i watched the whole thing.
My Nexus One, which features a 7.1Mbps max chip, in the same store, in the exact same spot, got 1.5Mbps. i've yet to test my galaxy nexus in that store.
now obviously as you said, the amount of people on the network and location makes a difference. But when i see phones hitting 20+ and my 21Mbps capable device isn't getting over 1.5, there's an issue.
so far, best i've gotten on my GN is 5.5Mbps. which i'm perfectly happy with, i just want that all the time, not this 1.5mbps BS when i'm in a 42 area.
and from the sounds of it, you live in an area that has really crappy signal, because most of the GN LTE speed tests i've seen are 30Mbps+ Saw one that hit 75Mbps, though not sure if i believe that one.
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I'm not treating you like a dumb ass, I don't even know you....
I live in NY, and in MY experience with the THUNDERBOLT, I never seen it hit more that 20...I don't even hit more that 40Mb/Sec on my Fiber Optic Landline service, most times its 25-35, but realistically my download rate tops off at 3.5 megs....
So if a phone hits 75, that means a Netflix movie should be fully buffered in around 15-20 secs, damn that's impressive, I would love to see that, maybe then I'd change to Verizon and start paying $150/mo.
I do believe you bro, Iv'e seen posts here on XDA with people hitting upwards of 50, but I don't think that's the realistic speed that the device is getting during use.
I don't think the GN will ever come to carriers that have the GS2.
You might be right because I was watching about 2 months ago of an interview with samsungs ceo in the USA on cnbc and he said that verizon is the only one without a SGII so the galaxy nexus will be their own version of the SGII... I hope they still bring it to a carriers!
Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
In my opinion, Verizon gets a pretty good lineup of phones. The Galaxy Nexus, Rezound, Razr, etc. As far as a carrier, very expensive but you get what you pay for.
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Verizon gets pretty good Android handsets IMO.
I just recently moved one of my AT&T lines to Verizon. Prior to that I was with Sprint. Sprint's data speeds were horrendous in my area and EVERY area in traveled too. I can't even imagine what its like after the Iphone release. Voice was always good on Sprint. AT&T's data blew sprint out of the water. Verizon is as good if not quite as fast 3g wise as AT&T but its incredibly reliable. 4g is blazing. 3g speeds are usually 1 - 1.8mbs on Verizon 3g. 4g pushes 15mbs. AT&T's 3g was anywhere from 800k to 4mbs. Verizon is definitely more stable and works in more places.
Both are leaps and bounds better than Sprint. Also with Sprints $10 premium add on its the same price as Verizon if you use Google voice or another data type service for texting. Which is what I do and saves me the $20 a month. I don't need many minutes since if I get low I can use google voice and GrooveIP for free minutes. Once its set up and configured it works great even over 3g.
In other words, jump ship the grass is greener. Sprint's service has taken a dump the last few years and they run a serious risk of bankruptcy before they can put all the spectrum they have to any real use. They have made one mistake after another after another for a long time now.
The LTE roms are on another site mostly.
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Thanks a lot guys ^^ its really between getting the LTE nexus or GSM on tmo, an whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
*what site josh...?
i moved from AT&T to Verizon and havent looked back, love my GN, but other phones are respectable too,RAZR,REZOUND are good phones too depending on youre tastes
Rootzwiki, but if you have the choice, get the GSM version.. much better battery life.
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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It's really not that bad. I mean if you hammer it on LTE it will drain quicker than usual but it's not this destroyer of batteries that people make it out to be.
while LTE may destroy ur battery, u can always turn it off till u need it. there is plenty of dev support for the LTE version, and verizon's network coverage destroys all other three carriers put together.
also.. if u are going to pay for a data plan anyways, might as well enjoy the subsidy.
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whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
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The GSM version works on all providers in all countries all over the earth. The LTE version works on one provider, in one country.
I think the GSM-model simply has what you may refer to as a "immensely much bigger user-base" and hence more developers than what's when you look at the cold, hard facts, is basically a carrier-phone, available on one carrier only.
If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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It's going to vary largely due to many factors. What's your signal strength, how many other people are using 4G in your area, etc...
I was traveling through Baltimore, MD and was managing only 12 MBPS with 1 bar of signal strength on New Years Eve, which honestly, is easily more than enough for anything. Keep in mind, as time goes on, more people get 4G phones, and use them more, available bandwidth is going to go down anyway. I don't understand why people think they should get 20 MBPS anyway....what are you going to do? If you don't have an unlimited plan, what's the point? You'll use up the small amount of data allotment that you have so quick you'll never even know it.
Thanks guys i think i shall pick up the LTE tomorrow...
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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
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I left Sprint for Verizon 3 months ago, and the extra cost is well worth it - it's like having a landline in my pocket.
As far as your assessment of the Android phone lineup, I'm not sure where you're coming from. I think they have a great lineup, although certainly it's slanted toward the Motorola line. With Google buy Motorola mobility, that should end up being a very good thing.
I also don't think they meddle with the phones nearly as much as ATT does - but I have no direct experience with ATT, just what my friends tell me.
I don't know about all your guys' locations but I live in Mesa, AZ (it is about 30 min from downtown Phoenix). I get VERY slow LTE in the city. Even with 2 bars I get ~5 down and 5 up. As far as signal strength, it isn't much different to any other 4G phones I have used. I get no data in my school's basement and the phone always seems to drop the data service. This morning I had 1X until I restarted the device. At a small town in east AZ, Verizon is the only one with data service, but it is VERY!!!! slow. 3G in Phoenix area is about .8 down (on a good day).
Was hesitant due to what im hearing about battery life on LTE, but i guess I'll deal with battery issue since i do want the 32gig option an I'm hearing nothing but good things about Verizon, any other differences between LTE an GSM version?
I drop Sprint and made the switch to Verizon. I had nothing but network problems on Sprint, crappy speed on 3g/4g network. But one thing I can say is once you make the switch to an LTE phone you’ll never go back to regular 3g/4g service! is like going from DVD to bluray.
OK, so I just upgraded from the original Evo 4G to the Epic 4G touch...
I see all these people debating whether or not to wait on Sprint's LTE network and 4G this and 4G that...
Am I the only one that has never had 4G coverage where I live and I get pretty decent 3G speeds so I guess I really dont care.. other than the fact that I'm paying $10/mo for "premium" data.. it's still cheaper than the other guys.
And by the time Sprint's LTE makes it to me (a relatively small town at about 200k), I'll have upgraded 3 more times... lol
I've used 4G when I travel and I guess I just haven't had that great an experience.. too much of a battery hog for the amount of speed increase gained..
Am I alone here?
nope you just havent let the xda mob hysteria get to you... if everyone took a step back and put all these issues into perspective like that there would be no posts in general!
I've had my 4g on all day sometimes and it'll result me with 20% less battery usually. That's with 70% 4g coverage thru the day.
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Hey Blak, i agree my bro. I live on a small rock in hawaii and ill probably upgrade atleast 2x more aka 4 years before i see 4g so i dont care at all. Im just happy that hopefully within 6 months ill have ICS. That will be fun. I dont mind the 4g thing at all.
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I'm in the same position. I live in WV, and there's no 4G here. My 3G speeds are sufficient generally, but at the moment I'm not really in a position to care about LTE/WiMAX yet.
I'm not sure if this region will ever get 4G, to be honest.
You are not alone. I live out in long island NY and I'm about an hour from the city and have yet to get 4g here. Even Verizon, att and tmo don't provide 4g out here.
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That's what I thought... you just wouldnt know it from reading some of the posts around here..
Everyone talks about Sprint's crappy 3G and coverage... Well I guess I'm lucky because I get good speed and never drop calls where I'm at so 4G just doesn't matter all that much to me.. thanks for the replies
I get great 3g as well and no chance of 4G coverage anytime soon... You just don't hear from us sane people all that often because we are normally enjoying our phones and we don't complain about every small bug.
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Im in Boise, we have 4g, but I never use it. I might use 4g once every two months. I dont have an issue with the 3g speeds, and it saves my battery.
I'm in Alabama, north of Birmingham in a high tech community of just under 200k people and I doubt we see 4G anytime in the near future so that doesn't factor into my phone decisions. Overall I get really good 3G speeds (with the exception of a few mystery zones in the city) so I'm happy to wait and see how it plays out because I'm a frequent upgrader as well and have bought more than a few phones at full cost because I wanted them but had no upgrade available lol Sprint should really love me.
I have good 4g coverage and I keep it on all the time. I can go from 6am-11pm with about 30% left.
But frankly, I don't really use it unless I am watching hockey. And if I am doing that, I am draining the battery anyway.
This thread is reminding me to shut off 4g as 3g is much better on the battery.
I'm not to worried either. I'm on wifi every second at home cuz obviously saves battery and when I leave the house I make sure my 3G/mobile network is off so its not bringing in data so I only turn my 3G on when I wanna check FB, twitter something like that. Living here in central iowa I have never had a chance to check out 4G. A few friends have verizon and des moines has 4G which is half hr from me and they say its amazing. I go to chicago every spring for vacation I managed to get 4G on my evo hit and miss and wasn't nothing amazing IMO
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Okay everyone, I feel like this a time for those of us that have to decide to renew our contract with Sprint...to make a real informed decision. I'm going to try and keep this short.
Read this first- here
I've been with every carrier EXCEPT Verizon and twice with Sprint. I always knew that Sprint's data network wasn't that great, but I found it usable (barely and often times frustrating). With my contract date ending on 5/3, I started looking at other carriers. I have friends on Verizon, TMo, and ATT. In a very non-scientific way, I decided to test the 3G & 4G speeds on those networks...later comparing them to Sprint. I always found my Sprint speeds to be the slowest...on both. Let me mention that I live in Kansas City...which is in Sprint's backyard...didn't even matter.
With the direction mobile technology is going...LTE is definitely here to stay. However, the battery powering the device is not improving (except for the Razr Maxx). And we all know that 4G...albeit LTE or WiMax, sucks the life out of the standard mAh battery in the device. Which is why, I use 3G most of the time...again, which is not that good on Sprint's network.
Even with the sexy Evo 4G LTE dropping soon, I am starting to reconsider my tenure with Sprint. Even with a good LTE network, 3G still plays a role...at least for me. Paired with my tests and the above article, it proves that Sprint needs to get their sh*t together. A great device means nothing on a sub par network.
I guess I'm angry right now and I don't plan to sit on the curb either. I really want to give Sprint a chance...have been for nearly 2 years. But, I don't want to be optimistic, only to be let down 2 more years later. So my question to my comrades is simple. Are you all going to stay with Sprint or look elsewhere?
Don't worry, I'm a big boy and I can take straight up responses. Sorry for the dissertation.
Regards,
sag
***Mods, feel free to move this to general discussion. I think it may belong there.***
You go to another carrier and get less data for more money, better speeds less quality. Sprints LTE roll out is bringing network vision with it which is enhanced 1x and 3g networks as well as LTE everywhere there is now 3g coverage within 2 years. I'll be sticking with sprint as I have been with every carrier and sprint has the best customer service and actually works with their customers. Vzw doesn't give a rats ass how badly they screw you and will even directly lie to your face to get you to change your plan, device, contract etc. ATT lte is spotty at best TMO is just a joke in alot of areas, and sprints network vision will far surpass all the other carriers by the end of 2014.
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I'm sticking with Sprint. The price plans for Verizon are so much more expensive than what I'm currently paying, and I'm not sure the benefits warrant the cost. Also, I'm optimistic that Sprint is at least trying to get better. Their venture into WiMAX set them back, but they've been moving to correct that. Lastly, I'll be spending the next four years in college where I'll have WiFi available nearly constantly.
See there are so many things I am weighing right now...in no particular order
Devices offered...to include future device offerings
Data Speeds
Customer service
Coverage
Rate Plans
Tethering (the XDA way ;-))
Time to upgrade
I have been following the development of Sprint's network and it really DOES look promising. However, I do not want to wait for nothing. I'm trying not to let impulse or frustration get the best of me right now...really difficult. I love my Evo and I am hoping the love will continue with the Evo LTE. I just want to love the network as well.
Thanks for responding and I hope this continues to create dialog.
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I'm sticking with Sprint. The price plans for Verizon are so much more expensive than what I'm currently paying, and I'm not sure the benefits warrant the cost. Also, I'm optimistic that Sprint is at least trying to get better. Their venture into WiMAX set them back, but they've been moving to correct that. Lastly, I'll be spending the next four years in college where I'll have WiFi available nearly constantly.
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By the time network vision is fully deployed sprint is targeted to have the best network in the country. HD voice, consistent 1.8-3mb 3g speeds and LTE with coverage everywhere they currently have 3g with the same signal quality and building penetration as the current 3g network means they will have LTE in a bigger market than any other carrier while having the same or better 3g as well and far superior voice quality, with the customer service they currently have sprint will be poised to be the top dog once again.
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here are a few things floating in my mind on why to switching carriers ( other than having NO COVERAGE aka im runnin in airplane mode just to save battery cuz there is no point on leaving radio on unless i like looking at the x over my signal bars lol)
-boy do i miss sim cards it was WAYYY easier to switch phones imo (yea yea you can even switch sprint phones by talking to them online but still swap a sim and wait sounds like fun)
-i mean the faster speeds would be nice and the limits on amount of data might be hassle but... i really dont find myself downloading roms over the 3g/4g radio (well ok maybe 4g but i dont have that in my particular area either but i get that could be nice) and tethering could be an issue (and i mean by other means not the manufacturers app) since there are caps butttt yeah there is wifi so many places and at the rates the size of phones are coming who needs to tether a lappy lol
-i guess im so over customer service where unless it is really really really really really need im just gonna try to fix it myself just cuz.
andddd to be honest i know this sounds like a stupid thing or maybe just dumb but att has this 50 unlimited plan for the go phone (annnd a sim only costs like 4 bucks or something like that which means no need to hack away with cdma workshop to get my phone on boost or something). downside is yesss you have to buy a phone off plan and yes you still will get throttled (right ? wasnt that what they are doin to unlimited plans?) but id rather shell out for a phone i want that im not stuck with due to contract annnd have my 50 dollar plan throttled than a $100+ plan throttled lol anyways those are some of my thoughts just thought i'd share
I've been due for an upgrade for a few months now, was waiting on the GS3 then heard about the Note 2. I know the Note 2 will be my next phone. The only thing stopping me is lack of LTE coverage in my area.
Major reason for staying with my E4GT is Wimax. I use it to tether at home. Leaving Wimax for 3G on the Note 2 would be a noticeable difference.
Thoughts?
Went from et4g to s3 to note 2 and haven't looked back. The 3g in St Louis is awful but I couldn't pass up the hardware of the other 2 phones. I can use wifi at home and get by with 3g for the time being. My wife's s2 feels like a toy after the other two I have used now.
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And this alone makes up for it...
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Check S4gru.com to see when Sprint LTE will be available in your area
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I changed on release day. It's so awesome that I can't even describe how much better the phone is.
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Haha,
You guys are awesome and I see all of your points. I wonder if I post in the E4GT forum if I'd get different responses.
If I had wifi at my house I would've gone with the GN2 at launch.
I've checked S4gru and apparently Orange County isn't getting LTE until the middle of 2013. That's a long time to wait for someone who runs their internet via tether. I called Sprint a few times and they couldn't give me an answer one way or another when LTE would be lit in my area.
I was in the EXACT same dilemma as you (OP), I was on my old Evo4G and had great Wimax connection and speeds. But after watching all of the videos for the options(software) and hardware I couldn't pass it up. But then again I know that LTE is coming to my area within a month and a half. But regardless after picking up this device I am sooo happy I did, even with 3g which internet surfing is fine on really I just use the multiple page loader in the browser(tabs basically) and i have a few pages open and switch between them while surfing. Ex) open two on XDA then maybe one on PA another on AA and maybe another on TB (phonearena, technoBuffalo,AndroidAuthority) along with other sites after changing. Then just click a link on one after reading an article or thread then flip to the next which has the page loaded already(which loaded while I was reading my previous thread or article). And you don't even notice the difference with that method. Not to mention the 3g isn't all that bad anyways nowadays. Yes compared to 4g it is horrible but hey.
In short YES upgrade. if you dont want to take a good hour to 2 to get it setup at home with 3g which I did and it wasn't bad at all. I am speaking of using the Play market and downloading all the apps you want, then maybe stop at a Wi-fi hotspot and piggyback. hit a Mcdonald's or Starbucks.
I sure hope when the LTE hits here in my area it is comparable to AT&T the speeds on the tablet in my household connected to that is crazy fast. 42mb/s - 48mb/s
Orange County CA? LTE is due in Riverside in April....and i know the OC started before Riverside.
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Orange County CA? LTE is due in Riverside in April....and i know the OC started before Riverside.
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How do you know this?
Yup. OC, CA. April is 6 months away.
And let me play devils advocate for a sec: What good is this phone if Internet is so slow it's almost unusable (at times).
To the OP simply_Dave and the poster above me, you guys know you are looking at the "Launch date" for Orange County which is April. The launch date is when it is roughly 45-50% completed, chances are if you live in a populated area of OC you could be using the LTE market much before. Basically how is works is you can pick up signal much before the date but if you are having spotty coverage or issues dont complain cause they haven't "launched" it yet. But you know your city, Like for instance in mine on a map our City covers roughly a 25mile diameter each way from downtown, but my actual address and location is literally within the actual city. So when they start work in my City in December I will theoretically have 4gLTE fairly quickly(which has also been verified by acquaintances at Sprint). Although my city doesn't Officially "Launch" until June 2013.
I'm stoked though cause I have a Sprint tower that is scheduled for an LTE upgrade within a 1/4mile of my house!!
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S4Gru.com
People have already seen many crews beggining work all around us. A few weeks ago my service was horrible, and a tower was down (my guess is due to matinence). But like I said, I am pretty sure OC is due to release prior to us in Riverside, but check that site for when it is expected to drop...I will see if I can find the link to the specific completion rate for you and post it here when I find it.
The Administrator on S4Gru.com seems to believe LTE will launch in the OC in Q1 of 2013....that is if you do not live in Brea, Yorba Linda, or Placentia.
That's great news! Thanks for the look up. Maybe I should make the jump. I just ordered a bunch of new cases for my E4GT too. Haha.
I'm in the same position. I use 4G tether on my E4GT *all the time*. Wimax speeds for me are 6-8Mb during the day, 8-10Mb during the night. I just bought a new Anker battery for the E4GT and i love the screen brightness, etc., but especially the speeds with my tablet. What makes it worse is that i have the Note 10.1 with quad core 1.4 with 2GB and i know how good this tablet is, i only expect wonderous things from the Note 2 consdering it's a higher spec'd processor with near same specs.
At this point, i think it's safe to assume not to go with GS3 - even with the Best buy deals coming up. I *would* suggest waiting 2-3 weeks though....if you are thinking of upgrading. It looks to be a great phone with great battery and great screen and great camera. I'm not sure there isn't something great about this phone, honestly, but that's still to be said about radio reception because i had to recently get rid of my GS3 because it was a worse radio than my E4GT - off topic, i know, so back on topic - wait 2-3 weeks if you must get this (and if you love samsung, you MUSTget this) i would keep the E4GT around though - for those times you want to SWAP back to use your tether through sprint.com/activate website. Enjoy...
I moved from the E4GT to the GN2 and I live in an area that has wimax and lte
The sprint LTE speeds for me are:
About the same download as WIMAX for me 6-10 mb/s
faster upload speeds, Wimax is capped at around 1 mb/s my LTE has gotten anywhere from 2-4 mb/s
(No these are not anywhere near the crazy att and verizon lte speeds but still very usable)
Ping times are faster for me on LTE than they were on wimax
ability to hold the connection seems better for me on lte. It used to drop for me with wimax causing downloads to error, streaming music to stop etc.
As long as i stay in coverage area my connection seems pretty stable on lte.
As far as everything else there is pretty much nothing not to love. I look around my apartment and wonder why I have so many charging cables laying around now since now i just plug it in every day or two or three.
Phone wise, I also made the switch from the ET4G and its like night and day. Longer battery and better all around phone (I also have a Note tablet...)
Since your using it as your internet makes it a tougher decision.
I gave up having Wimax in the hope to have LTE in the near future.
For now I use my 40mbs WiFi and I have about 1.75mbs 3G at my home address.
Meh, think I'm going to keep my phone with wimax. I tried living with internet at 3G and just couldn't do it. I didn't go for more then 10 mins before getting frustrated and turning on Wimax. :/
One reason to get the note
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I'm sure you know that tethering is not yet working on GN2. I have seen one report of bluetooth based tethering working but a no go for me. If your area isn't getting lte for while there's no upside to the GN2. It's a great phone mind you but no tethering for the time being.