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The Epic touch 4g?

I have posted in this forum before and had one other question. With everything that Sprint announced on Friday, do you all think it is worth the switch to Sprint from VZW? I have the Bionic and get great speeds and great coverage with good battery life. I could save about 20 bux a month by switching. Is it worth it? BTW I am grandfathered in to the unlimited plan and pay about 96.00 a month for 900 anytime and unlimited everything else. Please don't flame just give your honest opinion. I have attached a speed test from my Bionic also. Thanks in advance!
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eakrish said:
I have posted in this forum before and had one other question. With everything that Sprint announced on Friday, do you all think it is worth the switch to Sprint from VZW? I have the Bionic and get great speeds and great coverage with good battery life. I could save about 20 bux a month by switching. Is it worth it? BTW I am grandfathered in to the unlimited plan and pay about 96.00 a month for 900 anytime and unlimited everything else. Please don't flame just give your honest opinion. I have attached a speed test from my Bionic also. Thanks in advance!
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How do u have sprint but have a bionic?
I would stay with Verizon, they will always be better than sprint. Sprints 3G is horrible, and they arent expaning wimax and lte wont even be an option till middle of 2012
I wish i had verizon with unlimited data...

eakrish said:
I have posted in this forum before and had one other question. With everything that Sprint announced on Friday, do you all think it is worth the switch to Sprint from VZW? I have the Bionic and get great speeds and great coverage with good battery life. I could save about 20 bux a month by switching. Is it worth it? BTW I am grandfathered in to the unlimited plan and pay about 96.00 a month for 900 anytime and unlimited everything else. Please don't flame just give your honest opinion. I have attached a speed test from my Bionic also. Thanks in advance!
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I think it would be best to wait for phones that are fully capable of taking advantage of the Sprint Vision project. [LTE/1x advanced]
Those will be out next year.
Then, yes I can see a very good reason to switch.

I am with verizon. I was looking into switching.

Sprint 3g sucks. Trust me. I wish I lived in an area that had Verizon service. My 3g speed is about 500 kbps max. Thats full signal.
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so not worth switching is what im gathering?

eakrish said:
so not worth switching is what im gathering?
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I really believe it would be best to make a decision like this in 2012.
Right now? I'd say no unless this is a financial decision.
Especially since you're grandfathered into unlimited data for Verizon.
Now, if Sprint Vision lives up to what it could be, then it might be worth considering in 2012 or 2013.

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so not worth switching is what im gathering?
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Hot damm, i'm jealous of those speeds. It's not worth switching, definitely not at this point. VZW's LTE is up and running and you're definitely benefiting from it at the moment. No need to downgrade at this point. Even the "fastest est" tech Sprint can jigger their WiMax with will never come close to what you're getting now.
Also VZW's LTE is on 700mhz so signal penetration is eons better than Sprint's current implementation of WiMax. Also something that few seem to realize is something called soft handoff, which VZW's LTE implements. Basically if you move out of LTE coverage and back to 3G and say you were streaming data (music/video/e.t.c), you wouldn't get disconnected, it would just handoff to 3G and continue. Sprint's WiMax would drop the connection and in some cases take sometime to reconnect.
I remember the VZW suits came in gave us the low-down when their LTE was being launched and i thought that was the killer advantage at that time.

Ok thanks for the input. I would give up some of the speed for a cheaper bill with similar coverage. Maybe I will look at tmobile's SGS2.

eakrish said:
Ok thanks for the input. I would give up some of the speed for a cheaper bill with similar coverage. Maybe I will look at tmobile's SGS2.
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If you're thinking about switching from verizon don't even think about T-Mobile. Their coverage is pure unadulterated garbage.
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But does Verizon charge extra for going over to 2gb of data? If so switch if you're a data beast like me, it can save you a lot of money. If not stay. I left tmobile because they cap me at 5gb and i use well over 5 gb in a week. It was easy for me, take the speed cut and enjoy true unlimited, plus I get great 4g in my area but as much as 37 mb/s WTF!!!
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Noooo!!!! Tmobile will cap at 5gb? You're speed will be as slow as 50kb/s, that's like having no data. I left because of that, I use 5gb in a week so I was depressed 3 weeks out of a month. With sprints 500kb/s 3g, and 7mb/s 4g for true unlimited, it was worth it.
P. S. Their signal sucks
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Don't go anywhere yet bro. Wait for the nexus prime. Some say its coming November 3. Maybe a little longer but definitely coming. U have unlimited data with verizon and speeds that fast. I'm jealous. AT&T has the fastest speed in my area. It gets about 5 mbps down and 2 up. T mobile and sprint both get about 500 kbps and verizon is roaming in my area.
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What? Unlimited "won't" extend to LTE...

I was reading cnet and I came across this article. We all know by now about Sprint transitioning toward LTE, but what I didn't know according to cnet "Of course, this won’t extend to LTE, but offering unlimited 3G and WiMAX plans may be enough to keep many customers from jumping ship until Sprint’s a bit more competitive in the LTE market."
I thought we keep our unlimited data plan, after all I am paying $10 extra for the so called 4G, and when Sprints 4G speed catches up to all the other carriers, I have to switch to a capped plan?! I hope this is not true.
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/12/05/sprint-launch-lte-devices-2h-2012/?page=1

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprints-first-lte-handsets-coming-second-half-2012/2011-12-05
Article in OP seems out of context.
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xcharles718 said:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprints-first-lte-handsets-coming-second-half-2012/2011-12-05
Article in OP seems out of context.
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I read this before, what caught my attention is that folks on 3G and "clearwire 4G" keep their unlimited plan. So if I want 4G LTE, I have to switch plans?

Maybe I'm a bit jaded, but i've learned to expect nothing in concessions or good will from Sprint. There is a clear movement toward penny pinching with current subscribers (fees, SERO) and crowd pleasing with new subscribers (iPhone, "unlimited" data... for a fee).
Who knows, maybe they parlay the current premium data fee into a double-premium data $20 fee for LTE devices, with a $10 admin fee. Probably not, but rewind two years and ask yourself if you'd expect them to do what they did in the last 6 quarters...

It will probably depend on the success of current spectrum deals and LTE rollout speed. Sprint's LTE on its own is not enough because they have only half the spectrum of Verizon. However, if Clearwire and Lightsquared successfully develop their LTE networks, then Sprint may still be able to offer unlimited 4G LTE to subscribers.

Jayavarman said:
It will probably depend on the success of current spectrum deals and LTE rollout speed. Sprint's LTE on its own is not enough because they have only half the spectrum of Verizon. However, if Clearwire and Lightsquared successfully develop their LTE networks, then Sprint may still be able to offer unlimited 4G LTE to subscribers.
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Hmm... ok. Well would it be worth it to stay with Sprint IF they limit data since Sprint's LTE is apparently only half of what Verizon has?
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niv3d said:
Hmm... ok. Well would it be worth it to stay with Sprint IF they limit data since Sprint's LTE is apparently only half of what Verizon has?
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If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.

Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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+1 for me also

Alex1x said:
I thought we keep our unlimited data plan, after all I am paying $10 extra for the so called 4G, and when Sprints 4G speed catches up to all the other carriers, I have to switch to a capped plan?! I hope this is not true.
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/12/05/sprint-launch-lte-devices-2h-2012/?page=1
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That is funny.. A while ago I was on the phone and I was *****ing at sprint in my most professional manner and I said that.. "I'm paying extra for this 4g that I can't even take advantage of because of my area" The lady was quick to correct me and call it the premium data package. I love how they change the wording to avoid issue.
I'm confident that I too wil be leaving sprint. My bill really isn't much cheaper than my friends who have Verizon or ATT. Pretty much what pushed me over the edge was when they got rid of my ability to upgrade every year and then also took away the 1 year contract. I'll more than likely buy whatever phone I want and never be held to a contract again but the value in me being able to get a new phone every year and sell my old one.. Well that was too good to pass up. With out that ability.. See ya.
One thing I found crazy is that Sprint has a deadline for when they expect to have their LTE deployment finished. That really makes me feel like where I live.. I will never see it. I doubt that they are still deploying WiMax and their 3G network is absolutely slooooowwwww.
If it were not for the Galaxy S II with a notification light I might not be with sprint now hahah.

tuna-83 said:
That is funny.. A while ago I was on the phone and I was *****ing at sprint in my most professional manner and I said that.. "I'm paying extra for this 4g that I can't even take advantage of because of my area" The lady was quick to correct me and call it the premium data package. I love how they change the wording to avoid issue.
I'm confident that I too wil be leaving sprint. My bill really isn't much cheaper than my friends who have Verizon or ATT. Pretty much what pushed me over the edge was when they got rid of my ability to upgrade every year and then also took away the 1 year contract. I'll more than likely buy whatever phone I want and never be held to a contract again but the value in me being able to get a new phone every year and sell my old one.. Well that was too good to pass up. With out that ability.. See ya.
One thing I found crazy is that Sprint has a deadline for when they expect to have their LTE deployment finished. That really makes me feel like where I live.. I will never see it. I doubt that they are still deploying WiMax and their 3G network is absolutely slooooowwwww.
If it were not for the Galaxy S II with a notification light I might not be with sprint now hahah.
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I too am switching...this Thursday or Friday when the galaxy nexus arrives. I'm going to take advantage of Verizon's awesome service in my area, that's almost 2mbps 3g and over 20mbps lte, my employer discount of 19 percent, double data promotion and the Google supported galaxy nexus.
Coming from sprints 200 kbps 3g speeds here and no 4g, this is gonna be a hell of an upgrade.
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Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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Well said.

Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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Same for me

I've been waiting for 3G to be fixed in Milwaukee since 2009 when I had the Hero. Every month I get a new excuse that they're upgrading the towers in my area later on in the month.
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I really wish that the people leaving would stop threatening it and just do it.
These idle threats have been going on since January on XDA.
Leave. Please, so we can get back to actual discussions about android and developing etc instead of whining about a problem with a simple solution to no end.

Err0rist said:
I've been waiting for 3G to be fixed in Milwaukee since 2009 when I had the Hero. Every month I get a new excuse that they're upgrading the towers in my area later on in the month.
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Data here in Wauwatosa is sometimes fast, sometimes slow. Just sitting in my house, I can go from 150KBps (kiloBYTES) to 5KBps in the same evening from one day to the next at the same general time.
However, when I'm in Chicago, Sprint has far better data speeds than my co-workers who are on Verizon.
So weird.

To clear up one misconception: we're not paying the $10 for 4G. Sprint stopped claiming that early on. It's on all premium phones, even the ones that don't support 4G. They claim it's a premium for premium phones which are more likely to use the network more heavily. No tie directly to 4G at all anymore.

Dalmus said:
Data here in Wauwatosa is sometimes fast, sometimes slow. Just sitting in my house, I can go from 150KBps (kiloBYTES) to 5KBps in the same evening from one day to the next at the same general time.
However, when I'm in Chicago, Sprint has far better data speeds than my co-workers who are on Verizon.
So weird.
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Anecdotal speed test conducted today at a Chicago area Starbucks:
My ET4G w/ EK02 modem: 4 megabit down
Friend's Thunderbolt LTE CM7: 17 megabit down
We ended up tethering my phone off his device so he can play around with it and render a few commonly visited webpages to "experience" dual core/1gb ram.
He's gonna buy the Nexus Prime off-contract next week D:

I always forget about 4g, since we don't (officially) have it in the Milwaukee area.
The one unofficial 4g tower I'm ever around (near the airport) gives me about 12mbit. Of course, in that area I pull almost 2mbit on 3g there...
I know the sprint 4g towers have a very short range... Once I get more than a mile away from the 4g, the speeds drop dramatically fast. Knowing Sprint, they probably have just four towers covering all of Chicago.
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I never see anything over 250 kpbs at home, sometimes it's lower than 30 kbps. I can't drive and stream music or even watch youtube videos on 3G. When I had my hero (2009) I was getting 1.3mbps constant.There's no way they've been working on the towers for over a year with no results. We're paying for 3G and 4G and not getting either.
There's a rumor on the sprint forum that sprint sold half of their towers to cricket mobile.
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Alex1x said:
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Here's how I honestly read this article:
Yadda yadda yadda... yadda yadda yadda...
....yadda yadda yadda...
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nothing new here at all...
...same ol' stuff we've been talking about for several months....yadda yadda yadda...
...yadda yadda yadda.... unsubstantiated claim with absolutely no evidence and in fact evidence to the contrary likely put in the article to cause drama and increase viewership...yadda yadda yadda...
end.
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Can stay with sprint or leave in april, what to do?

So my contract is up in April, or I can upgrade to a newer phone (maybe if the Galaxy Nexus is available by then I would get that). But what should I do?
I currently have a sprint airave at my house so signal isn't a big issue, although today our internet went down for a couple hours and on my stock prl I couldn't even get a data connection, and using a verizon roaming prl which was stuck in 1x I got around .15mbs down.
But my question is this;
I've heard that sprint is "doing tower upgrades" and they will start to rollout LTE sometime before the end of the year. But verizon already has LTE in my area (super fast..around 20mbs down) But I would have to pay more, and I would be capped. But what does having "truely unlimited data" mean if you can't even get a data connection?.
Is what sprint is doing with their network even worth it?, Or should I just say bye?. I've heard rumors that sprint is moving towards having some kind of a data cap anyways.

Sprint is in fact doing tower upgrades. They have been working hard in the area i live in particular and i have noticed data speed increases. I work at a place that offers sprint, att, and verizon services. We have a sprint Representative that visits about once a week or so and has been pretty open with us about upcoming changes in the past. Through today, i have yet to hear about a data cap, however did hear about their premium data pack that is required may* go up to $15 and other plans may go up as well, to help "cover costs" of the unlimited data. Sprint is cheaper when going to unlimited data, texts, and such. Based off the plans available where i work, switching to Verizon for similar service (except LTE) would cost around $10-$15 more plus tax's, fees, ect.. plus the initial $35 activation fee (assuming you only have 1 line?)

I've been trying to figure out the same thing, upgrade should be available in March/April and whether to upgrade, wait for newer phones or jump ship. I was getting really bad speeds but recent upgrades in my area have made things a lot better.

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I've been trying to figure out the same thing, upgrade should be available in March/April and whether to upgrade, wait for newer phones or jump ship. I was getting really bad speeds but recent upgrades in my area have made things a lot better.
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Yeah I looked on that network map and they have done a "data capacity" upgrade, but a data speed upgrade is "within next 6 months"
I have an at&t phone for work and the coverage is really good, and I have a verizon LTE card for internet at work and that is around 20mbps. My sprint phone (at home, WITHOUT the airave on) gets around .05mpbs down, if I can even get a data connection. Which I am really glad sprint gave me the airave, but its basically just VOIP. If they really wanted to help out you'd think they would've offered something that didnt require your internet connection...kinda like those wilson electronic antennas.

I too am thinking about the same thing. My contract is up in April, and 3g speeds in my area have been HORRIBLE the past year, I haven't gotten above 100kbps on sprint's 3g in over a year. Completely unusable at times.
I would love to switch to verizon, as their 3g works great (about 1500-2000kbps) and the 4g is amazing (at least 20mbps down in my area). However, I have the same dilemma as you. If I had access to those kind of speeds, I could actually do things that I want to, like stream live tv while at work. However, I have ran the numbers, and even with the 10gb data cap, I would go over that every month.
So to me, it's just not worth paying 80 bucks a month just for data if I am going to have to keep worrying about going over the cap. Luckily, I have the Verizon prl which I an switch to once in a while to actually get decent data speeds. I wil ljust have to live with that until sprint gets lte up and running.

ronartest2005 said:
So my contract is up in April, or I can upgrade to a newer phone (maybe if the Galaxy Nexus is available by then I would get that). But what should I do?
I currently have a sprint airave at my house so signal isn't a big issue, although today our internet went down for a couple hours and on my stock prl I couldn't even get a data connection, and using a verizon roaming prl which was stuck in 1x I got around .15mbs down.
But my question is this;
I've heard that sprint is "doing tower upgrades" and they will start to rollout LTE sometime before the end of the year. But verizon already has LTE in my area (super fast..around 20mbs down) But I would have to pay more, and I would be capped. But what does having "truely unlimited data" mean if you can't even get a data connection?.
Is what sprint is doing with their network even worth it?, Or should I just say bye?. I've heard rumors that sprint is moving towards having some kind of a data cap anyways.
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One thing to remember about data... as long as you don't change your plan they have to let you keep it. think of it in terms of your minutes. plans are always changing and often a year or so after they offer a plan, they no longer offer that same plan, but you get to keep it as long as you never change.and from my understnading if you are a current customer you would be grandfathered in... i have a buddy that has verizon and has had for years. He had an unlimited plan and now that verizon offers no unlimited plan he STILL has unlimited data.

The rumors of capped data on sprint are just that- rumors, sprint has no plans of capping data whatsoever they will throttle the top 1% but that is a rediculous amount of data on my bill we have 4 phones and an data card, we average 200gb of data a month and I've talked to many csr's at sprint who have told me that is pretty average data use for a family with multiple lines. The last person I talked to was the executive Rep for my dads office and he said to be throttled you need to consistently use 500+gb on a single line and then they will only throttle you .5mbps during peak time

I find it weird that everyone is being told that the upgrades are expected on April (I live in Houston). I was told that but then I was also informed that that can not be certain. I waited for over a year to wait for Sprint's improvements which never came. I know it is more money with Verizon I have real good data speeds. I kind wish I would have left to verizon hen they still offered unlimited. Like i said in another post that happens when you put your faith on sprint.
I think it is likely that sprint will be capped as well in the future. If you have unlimited they will most likely let you keep it. Also i don't know who told the above person that 200GB is average for a a family. That is a lot of data. But if you do use that much i guess you must have real good speeds. I guess nobody can really tell you if you should jump the ship since it all depends on your service area. If sprint sucks in your area then it really doesn't matter that another person has great service. For me service was bad so i saw no point in staying with sprint. With Verizon the lowest i have got is 5mbs and that is with low signal. The only thing i do not like with Verizon is that it seems that they charge more for monthly fees. They thing that you should consider is coverage, if you travel like me then Verizon might be worth it as it does have better national coverage.

eljefe18 said:
I find it weird that everyone is being told that the upgrades are expected on April (I live in Houston). I was told that but then I was also informed that that can not be certain. I waited for over a year to wait for Sprint's improvements which never came. I know it is more money with Verizon I have real good data speeds. I kind wish I would have left to verizon hen they still offered unlimited. Like i said in another post that happens when you put your faith on sprint.
I think it is likely that sprint will be capped as well in the future. If you have unlimited they will most likely let you keep it. Also i don't know who told the above person that 200GB is average for a a family. That is a lot of data. But if you do use that much i guess you must have real good speeds. I guess nobody can really tell you if you should jump the ship since it all depends on your service area. If sprint sucks in your area then it really doesn't matter that another person has great service. For me service was bad so i saw no point in staying with sprint. With Verizon the lowest i have got is 5mbs and that is with low signal. The only thing i do not like with Verizon is that it seems that they charge more for monthly fees. They thing that you should consider is coverage, if you travel like me then Verizon might be worth it as it does have better national coverage.
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Multiple csr's have told me that is average for family's with 3+ lines the guys in my dads office use about 100gb a month on their lines alone not including their family's lines his company has over 2000 employees in his office over 60,000 in 28 states all have sprint lines for them and their families as they get a ~60% employee discount for 4 unlimited android lines and a 12gb data card we pay ~ 135 with taxes with out the discount it would be ~320

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Multiple csr's have told me that is average for family's with 3+ lines the guys in my dads office use about 100gb a month on their lines alone not including their family's lines his company has over 2000 employees in his office over 60,000 in 28 states all have sprint lines for them and their families as they get a ~60% employee discount for 4 unlimited android lines and a 12gb data card we pay ~ 135 with taxes with out the discount it would be ~320
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Don't get me wrong If you are able to use that much that is great. I was never able to get more than 3gb and not because i didn't want to but because for me data speeds were so poor that I really couldn't do much.

eljefe18 said:
Don't get me wrong If you are able to use that much that is great. I was never able to get more than 3gb and not because i didn't want to but because for me data speeds were so poor that I really couldn't do much.
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I average 1mbps down on peak and 2.5 off peak plus I was grandfathered in on unlimited tethering and where we live its dialup satellite or 3g no cable no DSL and no fiber :-( when I was on fios in Tampa I'd eat data like a fat kid eats cake 200gb is low usage for me compared to being on 50mbps fiber I think when I had fios I used data just to use it lol I live in a sparsely populated area and have no issue getting true 3g speeds, we don't get wimax here so that sucks I've only got to use the 4g a handful of times so far which really wasn't all that impressive to me, my dad and I are data hogs tho he uses alot of data for work and he flashes a new rom about everytime I turn around, I used alot of data for work as well and alot for play, we both stream a lot of music and movies and download tons of apps and crap just to play with don't even use probably a 1/4 of the apps we download we are both tinkerers and both have 2 phones, which makes it fairly easy to eat up some data I never really realized how much we used til we actually looked at the usage one month then kept checking to see if we always use that much. I'm not sure but we have something called a preferred buisness prl which may be why our speeds are high even in the city its a perk of having our plan through his work I guess sprint gives a company that spends that kind of money with them a special access to maintain good speeds as everyone he works with gets pretty good average speeds I'm sure they don't want to lose that contract lol I know I wouldn't if I were them
Edit: I was just looking at PRLs it appears the PRL we have is designated for EVDO/Wimax mobile broadband devices with voice service maybe that's y the data is fairly consistent? It is PRL 60750 or 60705 I can't remember for sure it shows up in sense but on aosp(which I'm on) it just shows a blank space where the PRL numbers should be which may be my fault since I built the rom I'm on I may have errored a line of code. Weird, I'm gonna have to check the source when I'm working on the next build, the 607xx PRLs are apparently designated for mobile broadband from what I could find

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I find it weird that everyone is being told that the upgrades are expected on April
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I don't know about the others but I was referring to when I can upgrade my phone, not to network upgrades.

Network upgrades are pretty random, I'm not sure with lte but I think they will just activate sprints spectrum on existing hardware making the rollout pretty fast as they wont need to install hardware just make a few adjustments to existing hardware. That's what they did with clear and wimax but clear kind of hit a wall and stopped expanding although now clear has some rather large expansions planned which is why I believe sprint is continuing to support wimax for the next few years atleast, if clear really rolls out alot of.coverage sprint could end up supporting both 4g formats for the foreseeable future giving them a huge edge over the competition
We are legion, for we are many.

I still think Sprint has the best all in one plan with the best price. In my experience data speeds have always been acceptable. My contract is up in May and I see myself staying with Sprint.

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Network upgrades are pretty random, I'm not sure with lte but I think they will just activate sprints spectrum on existing hardware making the rollout pretty fast as they wont need to install hardware just make a few adjustments to existing hardware. That's what they did with clear and wimax but clear kind of hit a wall and stopped expanding although now clear has some rather large expansions planned which is why I believe sprint is continuing to support wimax for the next few years atleast, if clear really rolls out alot of.coverage sprint could end up supporting both 4g formats for the foreseeable future giving them a huge edge over the competition
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Clear is moving towards LTE
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Clear is pushing wimax pretty hard in the Tampa area they send out flyers atleast once a week offering unlimited 4g mobile broadband where my mom lives they actually have the best 4g coverage of anywhere I've had access to wimax
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I know this is old but I did switch to verizon. I took over someones unlimited data account. I have LTE coverage everywhere I go now.
I recently pulled down 40mbs on LTE.
It is a bit pricey, but it is so nice being able to use a data connection. I am NOT saying that sprint is all around a bad cell provider, but in my area they are awful.

ronartest2005 said:
I know this is old but I did switch to verizon. I took over someones unlimited data account. I have LTE coverage everywhere I go now.
I recently pulled down 40mbs on LTE.
It is a bit pricey, but it is so nice being able to use a data connection. I am NOT saying that sprint is all around a bad cell provider, but in my area they are awful.
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Hey at the end of the day you have to do whats best for you and honestly I do not think I will be under contract again with anyone. Especially not with all these companies offering unlimited everything for half the price and all using 4g LTE.
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Fed up with Sprint! Anyone else?

Hey all, I just wanted to see if anyone else is having the issues that I've been having with my Epic Touch. First off... data sucks! Can barely get 4G then is disconnects, and highest download speed EVER was 4MB/sec. But that's a rare thing. 3G is spotting and always horribly slow. Next biggest issue are the calls. I get dropped calls now everyday. On average 2-3 times if I'm on the phone a lot.
This was never an issues in the past, maybe 6-9months ago. I used to give my GF crap because she always had call issues on AT&T. Now's she's on Verizon and I'm plain jealous! Great data and now lost calls.
I've used many ROMs (GB and ICS), modems, etc. Also tried stock and still horrible.
I'm thinking of trying to get out of my contract because when signed it, everything was much better. Anyone else having these issues? Any thoughts on why this is? I can only guess that this did begin to happen after Sprint got the iPhone and reported a huge increase on customers. I'm from the SF bay area and live two blocks from Google HQ. Can't be the location...

You know 4 MB/s is 32 Mbps?
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revamper said:
You know 4 MB/s is 32 Mbps?
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You are incorrect. 4 MB/s the same as 4 Mbps. Either way, my point is internet is slow.
For you edu:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units

eozdalga said:
You are incorrect. 4 MB/s the same as 4 Mbps. Either way, my point is internet is slow.
For you edu:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units
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LMAO You are incorrect. MB/s is Megabytes per second. Mbps is Megabits per second, Mb/s is also Megabits per second.
Read your own educational material:
Megabit per second
A megabit per second (Mbit/s, Mb/s, or Mbps; not to be confused with mbit/s which means, literally, millibit per second) is a unit of data transfer rate equal to:
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Megabyte per second
(not to be confused with Mbps - Mega bits per second) A megabyte per second (MB/s or MBps) is a unit of data transfer rate equal to:
8 megabits per second.
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However you appear to be getting 4 Mb/s or Mbps and not 4 MB/s which would be insanely fast for WiMax.
Conversion between the two is same as bits in a byte, 8. Not forgetting to factor in they use a metric of 1000 for each unit K,M,G just like hard drive manufacturers. So my 1 Gbps server uplink is 125 MB/s.

revamper said:
You know 4 MB/s is 32 Mbps?
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RainMotorsports said:
LMAO You are incorrect. MB/s is Megabytes per second. Mbps is Megabits per second, Mb/s is also Megabits per second.
Read your own educational material:
However you appear to be getting 4 Mb/s or Mbps and not 4 MB/s which would be insanely fast for WiMax.
Conversion between the two is same as bits in a byte, 8. Not forgetting to factor in they use a metric of 1000 for each unit K,M,G just like hard drive manufacturers. So my 1 Gbps server uplink is 125 MB/s.
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My bad! I stand corrected. I clearly didn't read far enough. Thank you.
Anyway, still does't get to my reason for this thread. The real reason for this thread is still the same.

eozdalga said:
Anyway, still does't get to my reason for this thread. The real reason for this thread is still the same.
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Yeah no ones argued that one yet . I used to get 8 to 15 Mbps on tests alot but not so much anymore.

I WISH!!!! I could only get 4Mbps. I get roughly 50~100kbps everywhere on Sprint.
I have to flash a Verizon PRL to get anything more and then I'm lucky to see a 1Mbps.

RainMotorsports said:
LMAO You are incorrect. MB/s is Megabytes per second. Mbps is Megabits per second, Mb/s is also Megabits per second.
Read your own educational material:
However you appear to be getting 4 Mb/s or Mbps and not 4 MB/s which would be insanely fast for WiMax.
Conversion between the two is same as bits in a byte, 8. Not forgetting to factor in they use a metric of 1000 for each unit K,M,G just like hard drive manufacturers. So my 1 Gbps server uplink is 125 MB/s.
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1 Megabit per second is equal to 0.125 megabytes per second, which would mean that 4Mbps is 0.50 MB/s.
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1 Megabit per second is equal to 0.125 megabytes per second, which would mean that 4Mbps is 0.50 MB/s.
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That wikipedia article has some problems. It is a bit contradictory. On the one hand, it is correct by showing 1 megabit as being equal to 125 kilobytes, or 0.125 megabytes...but then it shows 8 megabits being equal to 1 megabyte.
The article admits problems, but I believe 0.125 is the correct conversion. Half a megabyte sounds about right when referring to 4mbps.
I have 18mpbs U-verse, which gives me a maximum of about 2.25mb/s down, which is correct, using .125 as the conversion.
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Sorry for all of the posts. I too am fed up with sprint. I get spotty 3g and little to no 4g as well. I mainly rely on wifi, and I have no signal in several places I go to. I actually miss AT&T.
To top it off, I called Sprint customer retention and expressed my displeasure with Sprint's service, and also asked for a dollar amount to buy out of my contract, and the service rep did not seem to care one bit whether or not I stayed with Sprint. I asked for an early upgrade for my family and I, and he refused. He also suggested I revert back to GB on my phone because of the problems ICS is causing, but then backed off of that idea when I explained to him how that would void my warranty (he thought doing a factory reset would revert the phone back to GB). Once he knew I knew what I was talking about, he wanted to wisk me off to tech support. His name was Tom, and now that I think about it, I need to do the survey I got for the call, and be sure to give him an appropriate low score for his poor customer service and lack of empathy and care.

bparkerson04 said:
To top it off, I called Sprint customer retention and expressed my displeasure with Sprint's service, and also asked for a dollar amount to buy out of my contract, and the service rep did not seem to care one bit whether or not I stayed with Sprint. I asked for an early upgrade for my family and I, and he refused. He also suggested I revert back to GB on my phone because of the problems ICS is causing, but then backed off of that idea when I explained to him how that would void my warranty (he thought doing a factory reset would revert the phone back to GB). Once he knew I knew what I was talking about, he wanted to wisk me off to tech support. His name was Tom, and now that I think about it, I need to do the survey I got for the call, and be sure to give him an appropriate low score for his poor customer service and lack of empathy and care.
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Yeah that sounds like what I would expect from them at this point. I'm guess a lot of people currently have issues. A year ago, service was excellent. Really the purpose of this post was to see if anyone had actually been able to get out of their contract on the basis of decline in the quality of service. I'd be surprised though if they would let that happen.

I've been seriously contemplating moving back to T-Mobile. Sure they don't have unlimited data, but the way things stand today my Sprint service is being throttled so badly due to network congestion that I'm rarely ever hitting 2GB anymore. With T-Mobile I'd probably hit the 4GB cap, then drop to Sprint speeds, which is still a better scenario.
I keep hearing how great Network Vision will be, but they spewed the same crap with Wimax, and we all know how that's gone. I'll decide what to do once I see what the next series of Nexus devices look like. I'd love a Nexus version of a Note II.

I'm fed up with Sprint too. Once my contract is up(I think December January, which isn't that far away), I'm switching to T-Mobiles prepaid 100 minutes, unlimited texting, and unlimited data (throttled after 5GB) and I'm gonna buy the next Nexus(or the one with the largest screen size if there are more than one).
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eozdalga said:
Hey all, I just wanted to see if anyone else is having the issues that I've been having with my Epic Touch.
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They are updating a lot of their towers in the bay area so your signal might improve in a few months. You might also consider an LTE device as you should have or be right around the corner from having LTE service in your area. Here's an LTE deployment map for the South Bay: Update map
EggosEvo said:
I'm fed up with Sprint too. Once my contract is up(I think December January, which isn't that far away), I'm switching to T-Mobiles prepaid 100 minutes, unlimited texting, and unlimited data (throttled after 5GB) and I'm gonna buy the next Nexus(or the one with the largest screen size if there are more than one).
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If you're in Kansas you should have LTE active in your area. If not then it should be available there soon. I'd think about trying a Sprint LTE device before jumping ship. I've seen speed tests on Youtube and they are super fast on LTE. If you are fed up for reasons other than data speeds than changing carriers might be your only option. Good luck.

mideastbeast said:
They are updating a lot of their towers in the bay area so your signal might improve in a few months. You might also consider an LTE device as you should have or be right around the corner from having LTE service in your area. Here's an LTE deployment map for the South Bay: Update map
If you're in Kansas you should have LTE active in your area. If not then it should be available there soon. I'd think about trying a Sprint LTE device before jumping ship. I've seen speed tests on Youtube and they are super fast on LTE. If you are fed up for reasons other than data speeds than changing carriers might be your only option. Good luck.
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I believe LTE is active here. But even though I get decent wimax in my area(at least the last time I checked it connected), I haven't used WiMax at all on my E4GT that I got in march, except to do a few speed tests just to compare it to speeds on 3G and WiFi.
I have two other reasons for wanting to switch too. For one, T-Mobile gets better signal in my area, and with a prepaid plan that's a hell of a lot cheaper than Sprint, it helps. I'm getting off my parents contract and was debating between Sprint and T-Mobile prepaid.
Second, I would rather have a GSM phone than CDMA. I think that having a GSM phone would be more beneficial in case I brick my phone, where just popping the sim card would be easier than calling Sprint to activate a different phone.
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EggosEvo said:
I believe LTE is active here. But even though I get decent wimax in my area(at least the last time I checked it connected), I haven't used WiMax at all on my E4GT that I got in march, except to do a few speed tests just to compare it to speeds on 3G and WiFi.
I have two other reasons for wanting to switch too. For one, T-Mobile gets better signal in my area, and with a prepaid plan that's a hell of a lot cheaper than Sprint, it helps. I'm getting off my parents contract and was debating between Sprint and T-Mobile prepaid.
Second, I would rather have a GSM phone than CDMA. I think that having a GSM phone would be more beneficial in case I brick my phone, where just popping the sim card would be easier than calling Sprint to activate a different phone.
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I'd go with T-Mobile over sprint for prepaid, their unlimited prepaid is like 50$ a month you get 4g and its throttled after 3 or 5gb(I forget which) but speeds when throttled are still 1-3mbps and on T-Mobile you can roam on at&t for free if you end up in an area with no tmobile coverage but at&t coverage. The only downside to T-Mobile is they have crappy customer service and they don't always have the best selection of devices right away. At least they didn't when i had them for work. They always had the downgraded version. Like in my case they only had the bb pearl 8100 when everyone else had the 8190. And now they have the one s which is a slightly downgraded one x just has a little less power under the hood. Kinda like only being able to get a oz rally lancer when the other carriers have the lancer evo
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Sprint freaking sucks... I was going to cancel my account (after 10 years) and go to Verizon.. but after 30 mins on the phone with cust INservice I was informed that the ETF only starts going down after 6 months (instead of immediately like I was told to begin with)... The whole time the rep was telling me the max ETF was $300 but mine was $350 and she couldn't explain it...
The constant BS from customer service and the steadily declining data speeds are making paying that $350 just to get out of it seem worth it....
PLUS... I see people talking about waiting it out.. Sprint will eventually have upgraded towers and then LTE will be here "soon" and all that... I was an early adopter of the EVO 4G and the WiMax connectivity that would "soon" come to my area... needless to say, I never got to use WiMax once...
There's no way I'm staying with Sprint for the promise of better 3G speeds or the coming of LTE - eventually
Several friends have Verizon and their speeds are WAY better and with how much data I use I'd spending almost the same amount as I am on Sprint.
OK, sorry about the soapbox.. but it's a sore subject as of late

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Good luck with Verizon they now charge $40 per line access charge on top of your data plan and the Max data is 10gb @ $100 so for 10gb data you pay $140+tax and their customer service is 100x worse than sprint. The bare minimum plan is like 2gb data @ $30 I think plus the $40 per line access charge so your paying $70+tax for 1 line with 2gb data if you have more than one line its $40 per additional line so 2lines + 2gb data = $110 + tax or more I can't remember for sure if 2gb is $30 or $40 all I know is its a rip off and they have no other plans now except this new shared data and unlimited calls and texts scheme which all the plans are over priced on top of having that ridiculous $40 per line access charge for a family of 4 you pay $160 just in access charges plus what even minimal amount of data you want tto share for 10gb that's $260 + tax for a family of 4, on sprint I pay $207 for 4 lines with unlimited everything including unlimited hotspots and that includes tax. I'd have to be retarded or just like giving away money to switch carriers. Not to mention I live in a semi rural area and they've already begun the network vision and lte deployment in my area, and many urban areas are already seeing lte which just hasn't been officially turned on but its active and you can use it.
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mideastbeast said:
They are updating a lot of their towers in the bay area so your signal might improve in a few months. You might also consider an LTE device as you should have or be right around the corner from having LTE service in your area. Here's an LTE deployment map for the South Bay: Update map
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Thanks for this. Good to know that Bay Area is next on the list. I wonder if that really is why voice calls are almost useless (at least for me). I would think they are different towers but I have no idea.

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I'd go with T-Mobile over sprint for prepaid, their unlimited prepaid is like 50$ a month you get 4g and its throttled after 3 or 5gb(I forget which) but speeds when throttled are still 1-3mbps and on T-Mobile you can roam on at&t for free if you end up in an area with no tmobile coverage but at&t coverage. The only downside to T-Mobile is they have crappy customer service and they don't always have the best selection of devices right away. At least they didn't when i had them for work. They always had the downgraded version. Like in my case they only had the bb pearl 8100 when everyone else had the 8190. And now they have the one s which is a slightly downgraded one x just has a little less power under the hood. Kinda like only being able to get a oz rally lancer when the other carriers have the lancer evo
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I actually found out new T-Mobile prepaid customers have access to a $30/month plan that gives 100 minutes, unlimited texting, and unlimited "4G" data with throttling after 5GB. And as far as devices go, I'll probably see if the next Nexus can support T-Mobile's network like the GNex can. If not I'll buy the GNex and wait for a better device.
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I have been noticing awful reception issues. Wimax keeps fizzling out on me, and I don't know who says NYC seems to be getting good 3g cuz it sure as Hell isn't me. This is with CM9, TW based runs, everything. I am hoping that the rumored lte upgrade in November/December will help matters on the 3g front. I promised my wife the next upgrade when the new iPhone comes out. Hopefully my e4gt will keep me going till another upgrade comes around.
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I wish I still had unlimited data

Who do I have to blow for unlimited data.
I try my hardest to connect to every possible WiFi connectiom but I always hit my data cap. I find my self turning my data connection off on the 15th ~ every month

Sprint?

How much data are you paying for???? 5GB?

the AT&T "unlimited" plan is worthless whichever way you look at it. You get throttled after 3GB of use, which is 1mbit up, 0.1mbit down, at which point your phone is worthless for just about anything useful. Just bite the bullet and pay for the data I guess. I was averaging 11-12 GB per month before this throttling started and I managed to get it down to 1.2-1.5 GB. The only usage habit I changed was avoiding downloading apps.
Not the end of the world, otherwise go to Sprint if you live in an unsaturated market with LTE or WiMAX, which is rare.

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the AT&T "unlimited" plan is worthless whichever way you look at it. You get throttled after 3GB of use, which is 1mbit up, 0.1mbit down, at which point your phone is worthless for just about anything useful. Just bite the bullet and pay for the data I guess. I was averaging 11-12 GB per month before this throttling started and I managed to get it down to 1.2-1.5 GB. The only usage habit I changed was avoiding downloading apps.
Not the end of the world, otherwise go to Sprint if you live in an unsaturated market with LTE or WiMAX, which is rare.
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The "cap" is 5 GB for LTE, and you get throttled to 3G speeds.

mikdugal1 said:
Who do I have to blow for unlimited data.
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gtalum said:
The "cap" is 5 GB for LTE, and you get throttled to 3G speeds.
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What he said. Its not 3gb for this device.

SysAdmNj said:
asl?pic? jk
What he said. Its not 3gb for this device.
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Damn, thanks for the correction. I was speaking of my iPhone 4S experiences, guess they don't apply for non-Apple products.
Maybe I'll bite the bullet and change my 2GB plan for 3GB for $5.00 more. I'm not a terribly heavy data user anymore though. But OP, that sucks, sigh. Maybe you can buy a grandfathered SIM on eBay if you need it that badly?

For AT&T, get an original iPhone, place your standard sim in it, it will prompt you for unlimited data. Wait a reasonable amount of time (maybe a month) and then upgrade from your iPhone to whatever it is you want -- and take your data plan with you.
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Who do I have to blow for unlimited data.
I try my hardest to connect to every possible WiFi connectiom but I always hit my data cap. I find my self turning my data connection off on the 15th ~ every month
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Just swap APN's when they throttle you. I've used a ton of data this month (thanks Sandy) and I just finally got throttled on my i717.

The AT&T $30 grandfathered plan is anything but "unlimited". I have been throttled so many times. Hardly going over 3GB's sucks.
I heard switching APNs doesn't work? Some day it will only allow for HSPA speeds and not LTE speeds if your successful.
I wish AT&T's unlimited plan was like Verizon's. I'd always buy at no commitment pricing so that's not a big deal to me. I'd do that each time to have truly unlimited LTE.

So, when you get throttle, do they send you some kind of notification that you are being throttled or does you speed just slow down? Been close to 5 gb a couple of times but have yet to see a drop in speeds. Going to test it one of these days when there is about a week left in cycle by exceeding the cap to see what happens for me.
from a galaxy far far away....

Mad383Max said:
So, when you get throttle, do they send you some kind of notification that you are being throttled or does you speed just slow down? Been close to 5 gb a couple of times but have yet to see a drop in speeds. Going to test it one of these days when there is about a week left in cycle by exceeding the cap to see what happens for me.
from a galaxy far far away....
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I think they do the very first time, but its a warning that they will throttle you in future billing cycles. I was throttled for about 4 days in September and the speeds were not bad. I was able to do everything. It just wasn't super fast, but operable. I think I was getting about 400-500kbps (very nice Sprint speeds).

Between my work wifi and home wifi I never go over 2gb a month, I feel bad for you "Data Hogs" (AT&T words no mine)

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I think I was getting about 400-500kbps (very nice Sprint speeds).
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LOL that is EXCELLENT 4G speeds for Sprint. lol

MattMJB0188 said:
I think they do the very first time, but its a warning that they will throttle you in future billing cycles. I was throttled for about 4 days in September and the speeds were not bad. I was able to do everything. It just wasn't super fast, but operable. I think I was getting about 400-500kbps (very nice Sprint speeds).
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That Sprint speed is ridiculous, I usually hit about 3 Mbps - 5 Mbps depends on location with my Galaxy S II on AT&T and that's just HSPA+ not on LTE.

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Just swap APN's when they throttle you. I've used a ton of data this month (thanks Sandy) and I just finally got throttled on my i717.
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Hmmm...how do you 'swap' APNs? I have only one in the list on my phone. (Right now, an SGS III). Or, how do you know what to manually add for a different APN?

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Hmmm...how do you 'swap' APNs? I have only one in the list on my phone. (Right now, an SGS III). Or, how do you know what to manually add for a different APN?
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You have to add the APN manually. There was a specific APN that wasn't checked for usage or throttled. I'm using past-tense because I've heard that when AT&T set the hard 3GB and 5GB limits for throttling on the unlimited plan, this trick stopped working.
To answer someone else's question about warnings, you should get an SMS warning you that you're close to the cap, and then another SMS to tell you that you've been throttled when you hit the cap.

T-$hep said:
That Sprint speed is ridiculous, I usually hit about 3 Mbps - 5 Mbps depends on location with my Galaxy S II on AT&T and that's just HSPA+ not on LTE.
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12-18 on H+ with my one X international. 40-50 on lte with my note
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MattMJB0188 said:
The AT&T $30 grandfathered plan is anything but "unlimited". I have been throttled so many times. Hardly going over 3GB's sucks.
I heard switching APNs doesn't work? Some day it will only allow for HSPA speeds and not LTE speeds if your successful.
I wish AT&T's unlimited plan was like Verizon's. I'd always buy at no commitment pricing so that's not a big deal to me. I'd do that each time to have truly unlimited LTE.
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Verizon is kicking everyone off unlimited grandfathered I hear. A bunch of my friends called Verizon and even if they buy an off contract phone they still lose data and then their bill goes up at least 30 bucks. ...think I read this somewhere also
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browniegirl said:
Verizon is kicking everyone off unlimited grandfathered I hear. A bunch of my friends called Verizon and even if they buy an off contract phone they still lose data and then their bill goes up at least 30 bucks. ...think I read this somewhere also
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Incorrect on all fronts. Buying a phone outright does not change your plan. This is actually the ONLY way you can keep unlimited for vzw. Also the bill does not go up $30 it simply changes their unlimited plan to the 2gb for the same price as the old unlimited. If they chose to go to the share data that will be different but vzw is in no way forcing anything on people except for taking their unlimited data, which blows. But that's life. And in ten years people will have no idea what unlimited data means
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