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Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...
kurgandk said:
Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...
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Get a task killer app and set it to always kill maps, and set a schedule for pruning (like every 30 mins). It's not supposed to start by itself. If you haven't rooted/flashed a custom ROM on it, call HTC. If you have, unroot and go back to stock for a day and see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, it's the ROM's fault.
its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?
kurgandk said:
its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?
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Either a software bug or an application issue. Have you reset to factory settings (full wipe)?
no not yet..
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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I'm sorry, but that is hilarious.
kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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About as much as 2 packs of Kleenex.
Okay, serious answer. All data on the phone, but not SD card too (on the off chance that something goes wrong, just copy/paste everything on your SD card to your PC, so you can restore)
heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?
kurgandk said:
heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?
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Don't think it touches software version, but it might. I suggest you backup either with MyBackup (30 day free trial) or TitaniumBackup first.
i have the same issue, everytime i check my task manager i see apps like maps launched even though i never use them, sucks more battery for no reason, i hope froyo sheds some light
Please check one of the many battery/task manager threads. Cached applications don't use anything if they aren't somehow active. Also you could have lots of applications open at startup which must initialize something or cache themselves.
I also have maps and many other launched at startup, and my battery life is more than good.
well its claimed that they dont use any ressources.... but the reality is that something like maps eat 10% of my battery in the course of a day even if i dont use it...
if i regularely kill off unused tasks I have plenty of battery for a whole day including wifi
but if I dont Im down to the wire..
apps like maps, gallery etc. alll runs on bootup, and maps at least restarts every ... minutes..
got a response from HTC:
Dear Mr Jacobsen, Thanks for contacting HTC Support. Regarding your question, the applications will run automatically in the background as you pointed out. And yes, they will affect the longevity of the battery. Phones operating on the android platform or the Windows Mobile platform will need to be recharged on a more regular basis than other mobile phones. “Heavy” users might need to recharge their phone as often as every 24 hours, and this applies to every brand (Nokia, Sony...)out there. That aside, I do share your frustrations regarding the energy applications waste. If you go on to the Marketplace (market) and search for the application task killer, you should find an application enabling you to close down applications you do not need on a regular basis. Yours Sincerely ****** HTC Support
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number *******.
Sincerely,
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Task killers, full wipes, uninstallation...
...People could you calm down?
OP, could you check you don't have Latitude enabled in your Maps app? I found this too and it was because I set Maps to report my location. If it's not thats a good start. Now go to your settings and select Location. If you want turn off the use of wireless for location acquiring.
Ensure you're not using any widgets that need mapping data, or the Maps live wallpaper (that's a REAL juice hog)
You'll find a service running called FriendsAppWidget or such. Not sure what it does, but it's the only Map service I know that runs as long as the phone is on. You can kill it if you want, but I'm getting about 16 hrs use with it running all this time and no task killers.
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From some searching is seems quite a few 3rd party apps plug into this service. Foursquare, Buzz, Twitter etc... Also , run maps and turn off any location aware features you may have enabled in the Labs section.
Basically seek out any apps you use that are dependant on getting your location to work. Even your weather widget might be the culprit.
Menu > Add > Shortcuts > Settings > Battery Use. Charge it to full, use it til it's running out of battery, then open Battery Use and tell us if there are any apps that you didn't open once (like maps) that use, say, 10% of your battery.
Sounds to me like they're just background services (which consume 0 resources)
well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%
kurgandk said:
well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%
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Are you using Foursquare/Facebook/Twitter/geotagging photos & snapping a lot of them/etc? All of those use Maps, to a certain extent. If not, and you're on a stock ROM, call HTC and *****.
I do use geotagging and some facebook, but that ... in my opinion does not excuse maps not quitting after its done what it has to do...
Hi all.. Has anyone noticed any difference on the way android treats running apps and memory after froyo upgrade?
I hv been using SystemPanel Lite (by NextApp Inc) as from the first days of my Desire (April); actually not as a task-killer but for monitoring system, running apps/services and memory. It shows apps that are running and visible, running in the background and those that are inactive at the moment.
Before froyo, there were fewer apps running in the background, and most of the apps that were opened by me or activated automatically by OS were in "inactive" status. Now -after froyo- there is almost no any apps/services that are reported as inactive (?); all of them (appr 41 apps/services right now!) are running in the background, some of them (14 pcs) third party apps which were installed from the market, all the rest are android or HTC system apps/services, and no any single app seen in "inactive" at the present.
(My device is unrooted, generic HTC Desire with official froyo)
I noticed that too, but I think it could be just down to some way the systempanel reads application state or some formal changes.
Me, too. I also noticed (ironcally) that several google apps seem less stable than before. I also had to do a soft reset as the only way to force close the FM Radio. Companionlink synching hasn't been the same, either, occasionally clearing all the data and starting from zero - very annoying when you have 1200 contacts...
But improved reception on phone and wi-fi have made up for all that.
chuk
Ok, Let me first say, This website and the people on it have helped me and others so many times. It's a great website with many talented people. However, I know nobody has to help anyone on here, but please listen to this and only help or post something if you have a fix or are having the same problem.
I don't want to sound rude, but I made a thread a while ago and got 9 pages of people saying that "my battery is fine" or people telling me stuff I already know, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE only post if you can help fix the problem or are in the same boat so we can try and get a fix.
Please don't put in the thread " My battery is fine" or "Do a hard reset" even though it seems that is the only way to fix it, I am going to reinstall all of my apps, and its most likely going to happen again.
Background information
I am rooted and running CM6, but have had this problem with the stock ROM, and many other ROMS, doing a hard reset has not helped me in the past, because after restoring my apps, and settings it seems to come back again. I am going to give you as much information as possible to help me with my battery, because I am sure I am not the only one with this problem.
My device
I am rooted and running CM6 and I absolutely love it, it is hands down the best ROM I have used, but I took my phone off the charger, send one text message, loaded up 3 web pages, and refreshed my email, and the battery percentage was down to 93% in 4 minutes of use my battery went down 7%!!!!!!!
I have had this battery drain issue with CM6, Fresh ROM, stock (rooted) rom, and Non-Rooted Stock.
Homescreen
Currently I am using LauncherPro, but ADW.launcher comes with the ROM, and I have had the same problem with that. Here is my setup to show that I am not using any data intensive widgets.
Home screen: besides all of my app icons, I am going to list all of my widgets.
1. Digital Clock Widget-It is a widget that works without an application, but their is an optional application that I don't have installed.
2. Stock android calender widget
3. Stock android 2x2 music widget
4. Beautiful widgets- silent and airplane mode toggle
5. Stock android power control
My settings
Stock email application- updates manually, so no autosyncing
News and weather- I have it set to manual.
Wireless and networks
wifi-off
bluetooth-off
tethering and portable hotspot-off
NO VPN
Mobile network-Data enabled is checked Data roaming is checked
call settings
voicemail service- my carrier
Display
Auto brightness, auto rotate screen, all windows and animations are shown, screen timeout 30 seconds
location
Use wireless networks
Accounts and Sync
background data is checked
auto sync is checked
My only account is GMAIL
About Phone>Battery Use
Android system-37%
Cell standby-34% (time on 30m 40s, Time without a signal 40%)??
Phone idle-17%
Display-17%
About phone
Android version 2.2
Baseband- 2.05.00.06.10
Kernel Version 2.6.29.6 cyanogenmod [email protected] #1
Mod version- CyanogenMod-6-08082010-NIGHTLY-N1
Build number- FRF91
****I am not overclocked****
Installed Apps from market
Cache Cleaner
Smart Keyboarrd Pro
Paper toss
Motris (full)
Android system Info
Dotty
titanium Backup
Launcher Pro
Advanced task killer (I never use it, its only installed so I can kill one app when it is not working)
Akari
Beautiful Widgets
Facebook for android
Amazon
SoundHound
Qik for HTC EVO 4G
Google maps (version 4.4.0) I have heard that it keeps phones awake but I don't know how to tell if it really does
Flash Player 10.1 BETA
Carrom3D Demo
Shazam
AK Notepad
Speedtest.net Speed Test
FMyLife FML Official
Voice Recorder
IUBloomington Building Locator
Movies-Flixster
XDA developers
Bartender
Zedge Ringtones and wallpapers
Google Voice
Opera mini browser
Pass Phrase
Fox News
Urban dictionary
Live scores
Astro File manager
Dictionary.com
The weather Channel
Digital clock widget
Picsay Pro
Keeper-Password
Status notes
Please if anyone can help fix this I would greatly appreciate it, It may seem that the only fix is the hard reset, but their has got to be some app, or setting that is keeping my phone on or killing the battery, if anyone has found that one of these apps or settings had killed their battery, please share, and we can fix our problem.
Thanks
P.S. My battery was at 93% at the beggining of this post, and the screen was on for about 6 minutes total so I can list all of the apps and settings and its npw at 85%
install setcpu,underclock the processor, have it @ 245mhz when screen is off
make sure you are signed out of google talk and go in to settings to uncheck auto sign in since doing that its taking a load off my battery .
also underclocking when screen is off helps alot use wifi when you can or just turn off the data to save loads of battery juice
also are you running the RC1 or a nightly ?
newest nightly is doing very well on the battery hit 19 hours so far with 18% juice left
Your time without signal is 40%, so you are going to get the battery drained.
TWS is your problem and that will not change on any rom.
Now, your PRI is going to be locked in because you are rooted. So maybe a new PRI (no way to update now that you are rooted we are stuck) could possibly help with TWS.
Another thing I know I mentioned in the other post. Do a fresh install and don't install any apps. Just use the phone. If that makes a difference, than it is an app causing your problem.
Eliminate all possibilities until you have a solution.
Bielinsk said:
Your time without signal is 40%, so you are going to get the battery drained.
TWS is your problem and that will not change on any rom.
Now, your PRI is going to be locked in because you are rooted. So maybe a new PRI (no way to update now that you are rooted we are stuck) could possibly help with TWS.
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yea just read that TWS is kill a battery quick !
kill the data when your in a building or areas that will make the data work harder
ALSO is any of the apps your running from a 2.1 backup ? if so that could be it too i had major battery troubles with my 2.1 back ups on 2.2
Go to running processes under settings>applications, see how many are running...if you have more than 5 running processes at a time.
.your battery will suffer. Use startup auditor to prevent apps processes not in use from starting on boot
you may want to check that your default PRL is set for cdma and not gsm.
there is a post in the dev forum about it.
you will need your MSL number, get it from sprint customer service or use cdma workshop trial. I've used both, I recommend calling sprint its fast and free.
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you may want to check that your default PRL is set for cdma and not gsm.
there is a post in the dev forum about it.
you will need your MSL number, get it from sprint customer service or use cdma workshop trial. I've used both, I recommend calling sprint its fast and free.
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i have my msl can you link that info please
The PRL shouldn't be an issue with the Evo. That was some type of hero 1.6 bug.
Also, I don't think the data codes work with Froyo.
You can try to download the "Network" app from the market and see if that works.
I was having a battery drain issue ever since 2.2
I think I have it fixed now though. First up. Did you wipe everything in between ROMS? I know this is redundant. But it is important, many custom ROMS have several cache, memory writing and reading tweaks applied and if the phone needs a fresh start from every angle to really utilize it all.
Honestly, the "drops to 93% without barely doing anything!!" Sounds perfect in line. As soon as the phone is done charging it will start using the battery again UNTIL it drops to 90% and then it will charge it up again. All the while saying "fully charged" I've read that on several threads. And after the initial 10% it should stabilize. If it doesn't after that, then there is a problem. You said you where 40% without signal? That seems high.
There is a thread about how these, and most other Android based phones on CDMA mobile providers have a bug that default to GSM searching, so while its looking for a signal. Its primarily looking for a GSM tower, and secondarily a CDMA. In the phone dialer, type *#*#4323#*#* (I think, please correct be someone if this isn't it) in there, scroll down and you'll see a drop down menu and it will say CDMA (auto) which is the bug. Press menu, then press "Select Radio Band" it'll FC which is normal. Noe look at the drop down menu. It will say GSM (auto). Change this back to CDMA (auto) and exit.
I know by doing this when I first got my phone that my battery life, while the phone is asleep, where way better!!
UPDATE: ignore most of that, sorry. Forgot you said you where on CM6 which is froyo, you'll need to use CDMA workshop to fix that as the code no longer works.
Hope that at least helped you out. I know the pain of fast battery drainage recently. Right now, after moderate usage and 4hrs off the charger I'm at 75%. that is with 4G on with weak signal. Some texting, and web surfing. And Taptalk this whole post. Lol.
...in 1943, I killed a drifter.
mjz147 said:
P.S. My battery was at 93% at the beggining of this post, and the screen was on for about 6 minutes total so I can list all of the apps and settings and its npw at 85%
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All that previous advice about data usage, tws, or anything related to battery drain while the phone is idle with the screen off is bologna.
Lower the brightness of the screen by about one half of automatic brightness and underclock the cpu to about 245-507.
The phone will still be very usable, while the battery drain while actively using the phone should about half.
Sporkman said:
yea just read that TWS is kill a battery quick !
kill the data when your in a building or areas that will make the data work harder
ALSO is any of the apps your running from a 2.1 backup ? if so that could be it too i had major battery troubles with my 2.1 back ups on 2.2
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Thanks everyone so much, I will try all of these things.
By "kill the data" What do you mean?
When I was using a ROM with Sense installed their was a setting called enable always on mobile data, which basically allowed you to turn 3G and 2G off, when the phone was not on, however I can't find anything like that with this ROM.
So if you could elaborate on how to kill the data apps, that would be great, it sounds like that might be it.
And no when I first flashed CM6 it was the first 2.2 ROM, so I got all of my apps from the market, I didn't restore them from 2.1
And to the person asking if I am running the nightly or RC1, haha I don't know the difference.
I cleared all of my data, and was running a rooted stock rom, then flashed the CM6 "latest ROM" from the ROM page on 7-28, then on 8-7 their was a nightly that was 8-08 and I installed that. The mod version I have in settings is NIGHTLY-N1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6780201&postcount=6
When I typed in *#*#4323#*#* in the dialer, after pushing the last * the (*#*#4323#*#*) that I had just put in would disappear and not take me to the menu, although I do know what your talking about. Can someone confirm if this is the correct code?
Edit, thanks to person above me
its Dial *#*#4636#*#*
when I did that and go to Phone info, and scroll down to set preferred network type it was on CDMA auto (PRL)
However under the IMEI, phone number, current network, is says network type CDMA EvDo rev. A
and 2 lines above that says GSM service: In service
Than on the bottom is says GSM Disconnects: ======DATA======
state: DcActice State connected at 3:11 AM and elapsed 14:12:24 and then is gives me an address, gateway, and DNS code.
This may sounds stupid, but should that be changed to CDMA only, maybe the PRL auto setting is still looking for a GSM network, because it says GSM: in service.
Thats proly not it, just wondering?
**Bahleetd**
...in 1943, I killed a drifter.
snandlal said:
Go to running processes under settings>applications, see how many are running...if you have more than 5 running processes at a time.
.your battery will suffer. Use startup auditor to prevent apps processes not in use from starting on boot
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running services
Digital clock widget-update service
astro-copy service
voicemail CM-Service
Android system-VPN service binder
Calenderstorage
google services framework
NEws and weather-genie refresh service
smart keyboard pro
Digital clock widget-update service
astro-copy service
voicemail CM-Service
it sounds like these 3 don't even need to be running, I can go without the digital clock widget, who know, maybe thats trying to update or somethin, astro is a file manager, Ill switch to another file manager, and voicemail
THATS from the 2.1 ROM !! maybe thats what it is, Because even though I don't have a voicemail every hour I will get a notification saying new voicemail dial *86 and when I would do that It says virgin mobile or somethin and doesn't let me listen.
I am gonna delete astro, digital clock, and the 2.1 voicemail, and reinstall the 2.2 sprint voicemail.apk and report back.
acrh2 said:
All that previous advice about data usage, tws, or anything related to battery drain while the phone is idle with the screen off is bologna.
Lower the brightness of the screen by about one half of automatic brightness and underclock the cpu to about 245-507.
The phone will still be very usable, while the battery drain while actively using the phone should about half.
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bologna my ass
everything i listed has improved my battery life ! i DO agree with the screen brightness thou
"kill the data"
i mean hold the power button down till you get the popup and turn off mobile data
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704272
interesting....
Hi,
I got a replacement Desire on Sunday, rooted with UnreEVOked, install Modaco r9 without A2SD.
On Monday, I turned my phone on about 11am. By 3pm it seems to have used 172 Mb fo data according to 3g watchday. This is crazy. I recieved some small emails, have FB and weather set to sync every 3 hour - but nothing else, didn't even use the internet.
So, turned 3g off. Turned it back on and noticed that it have used 5mb in about 15 minutes. I just can't work out what is doing this? Has anyone got any ideas?
Installed items:
Tasker
3g watchdog
advanced task manger froyo
astro file manager
c:geo
angry birds
angry birds seasons
rom manager
titanium backup
battery monitor
traffic stats lite (which seems to reckon my mail has recievd 18mb!, People has received 328kb!, Dailer 141Kb!).
Any ideas welcome, should I unstall something (or install something more detailed than traffic stats lite). At this rate I'll be rocketing through my data allowence in 2 days - which seems stupid if I can only use the phone for wifi. And, my set up is the same as my old Desire (lost at weekend) and this crazy data useage didn't happen.
CHeers
Paddy
Check with your operator to see what you've used, If 3G is off it sounds like a faulty app
Latitude from maps?
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Hmm,
Cheers for the suggestions. The data is definately happening when 3g is on; and I haven'y joined latitude so that shouldn't do it. How odd.
The configuration change was installing Advanced Task Killer Froyo rather than the plain Advanced Task Killer. I've uninstalled the Froyo version and gone back to the previous one, just to see if that makes a difference (although can't think why it would, oh well).
Seemed to have calmed down a bit today, just have to keep a beady eye on it as I don't want mental data charges near Christmas...
padsmcnulty said:
Hmm,
Cheers for the suggestions. The data is definately happening when 3g is on; and I haven'y joined latitude so that shouldn't do it. How odd.
The configuration change was installing Advanced Task Killer Froyo rather than the plain Advanced Task Killer. I've uninstalled the Froyo version and gone back to the previous one, just to see if that makes a difference (although can't think why it would, oh well).
Seemed to have calmed down a bit today, just have to keep a beady eye on it as I don't want mental data charges near Christmas...
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dude you need to get a pay as you go sim. you get unlimited data for £10 month
Hello.
I am having trouble with some apps, like Maps, Music, etc. that are auto-starting every time i try to disable them.
I don't need them. For example i don't need maps to run constantly on my phone. When i'll need it, i will open it, and after i am done with it, i will close it.
Is there any app that lets me edit these things ?
Thats is how android works..those apps are not running at all..are there just ready to be used..
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But, why they're listed as running apps ?
download and use android optimizer
download an appcalled autostarts from the market, it scans the phone and tells you everything that auto starts, then you simply disable it. and thats it, dead easy.
kpyhere said:
Hello.
I am having trouble with some apps, like Maps, Music, etc. that are auto-starting every time i try to disable them.
I don't need them. For example i don't need maps to run constantly on my phone. When i'll need it, i will open it, and after i am done with it, i will close it.
Is there any app that lets me edit these things ?
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Download SystemPanelApp which is an excellent task and process manager which provides information about CPU, Ram, Internal storage and much more plus shows the status of a running application. The apps you mention are all background apps which run in the background but are not actually doing anything therefore use no CPU, battery etc...
One thing I learned from Maps is to stay signed out of Latitude. Maps still runs in the background but it doesn't use up the battery or keep the phone in an awake state (while screen is off) anymore.