[Q] Did the apps and memory handling change with froyo(?) - Desire General

Hi all.. Has anyone noticed any difference on the way android treats running apps and memory after froyo upgrade?
I hv been using SystemPanel Lite (by NextApp Inc) as from the first days of my Desire (April); actually not as a task-killer but for monitoring system, running apps/services and memory. It shows apps that are running and visible, running in the background and those that are inactive at the moment.
Before froyo, there were fewer apps running in the background, and most of the apps that were opened by me or activated automatically by OS were in "inactive" status. Now -after froyo- there is almost no any apps/services that are reported as inactive (?); all of them (appr 41 apps/services right now!) are running in the background, some of them (14 pcs) third party apps which were installed from the market, all the rest are android or HTC system apps/services, and no any single app seen in "inactive" at the present.
(My device is unrooted, generic HTC Desire with official froyo)

I noticed that too, but I think it could be just down to some way the systempanel reads application state or some formal changes.

Me, too. I also noticed (ironcally) that several google apps seem less stable than before. I also had to do a soft reset as the only way to force close the FM Radio. Companionlink synching hasn't been the same, either, occasionally clearing all the data and starting from zero - very annoying when you have 1200 contacts...
But improved reception on phone and wi-fi have made up for all that.
chuk

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Collect 2.2 bugs/errors/flaws

Updated (officially) my Desire to android 2.2. Some notices and thoughts:
1) Russian keyboard is quite buggy: instead of space after space-button pressing it prints "!", and instead of Enter - "Ъ". This, however, happens only in portrait mode.
2) Messages are now ordered by date ascending. Why?
3) Search replaced with default 2.2 search. It's OK, but why not to stylish it for the Sense theme, like the old one?
4) Messages listing still lags, so does the main menu, when scrolling to the very bottom.
Hi guys,
i've looked around a little, and so far have found a few issues with 2.2
The idea behind this thread is to collect them all (POKEMON! xD).
When i think the list is complete, i will send a support ticket to htc about it.
So far noticed:
General Issues:
- Battery Drain
- dropping wifi connections after time
- random crashs when adjusting camcorder settings
- status bar gsm icon doesn't change to H in hsdpa areas, if coming from gprs area
- headphones aren't recognised if device is rebooted with them plugged in
- bug with russian keyboard in portait mode ("!" typed instead of Space and "э" instead of Enter)
- inoperative camera (not everyone)
- wifi-tethering glitch (doesn't save settings)
- massive heat while charging
- partly incomplete localization
- some issues with syncing to gmail (please more details!)
Browser:
- laggy panning in browser
- browser launchs to last page visited instead of homepage
Apps:
- the coverflow of the htc music player doesn't load all 5 visible covers (always at least one missing)
- some apps simply shut down, even if they worked fine on 2.1
- paid apps disappearing from market
- video thumbnails pixelated
- music playback doesn't resume after spoken intructions by navigator
- gps localization seems to be much slower now
Post, what you've found, i'll add it. (please tell, how you installed froyo, upgraded, reflashed or some other way)
Thx 4 your help
Seems all paid apps have disappeared from the market for me, including the ones I've already bought
@Cwiis
did you flash a new 2.2 or upgraded from 2.1?
Browser launches (after its been killed) onto the last page you visied, not the homepage.
haven't noticed any of those problems, only problem i had was that it wasnt properly installed the first time. I hear people complaining about battery power but my one week long desire usually holds just fine for 3 days without charge with normal use( wifi, sometimes gps, listening to music etc)
I haven't had any problems with the WiFi. But the web browsing isn't as smooth as used to be when booming in.
One thing I have however noticed is that if I'm in a area of gprs it says g, but when I go to a hsdpa area it still says g. I get the speeds of hsdpa but it says gprs. If I turn of and on the network it then says h.
Works fine from h to g. But won't go g to h even when its on hsdpa.
I'm in o2 in UK. Any one else noticed it.
Paid Apps are there for me. (uk. unbranded)
When watching BBC Iplayer you can't quit out of the playing Flash video, and i had to go to do a FORCE STOP on the browser to get out.
Oh, I was wrong, only two of my paid apps have gone - I guess the phone needs specific activation or something, but Raging Thunder 2 and Pacman Championship Edition have both disappeared for me (even though I've bought them and have both of them installed).
mcgon1979 said:
Browser launches (after its been killed) onto the last page you visied, not the homepage.
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I think you will find that it is probably supposed to do that now. Part of the Android process management is that if an app is killed by the system (or a task killer as it happens!), the state is saved so that when you start up again it is in more or less the same place as it was before it was killed.
I guess that previously it didn't used to save the state, but now it does.
Regards,
Dave
one paid app (radiotime) is missing from the mp. It is still on my phone though...
App share doesnt post to the facebook icon but works ok via friendstream (htc sense)
kazgor said:
Paid Apps are there for me. (uk. unbranded)
When watching BBC Iplayer you can't quit out of the playing Flash video, and i had to go to do a FORCE STOP on the browser to get out.
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I had a similar problem, and although I was able to quit the browser, I was then left with a Flash video still playing in the background that I could hear, but not access or see (even going back to the browser). This happened for me after viewing in Full-Screen.
I think I've also found another issue following the update that I don't recall happening before...
If you're listening to music through headphones, then reboot the phone (without unplugging them), when it starts up again it does not recognise that the headphones are plugged in. Consequently if you restart the music, it comes out of the internal speaker.
Unplugging them and plugging them in again fixed this... It does appear to be repeatable though.
I'm not too worried though, I can accept the odd minor issue like these, as so far at least, the benefits of Froyo far outweigh the drawbacks.
(I installed Froyo OTA on an unbranded Orange UK handset.)
1) Unable to sync contact with fb (It does not update pictures, status etc)
2) Something is wrong with the camera. In viewfinder mode everything seems to be overexposed
people at 4pda.ru forum collected this list of bugs in 2.2 desire rom (my approximate translation follows):
bug with russian keyboard in portait mode ("!" typed instead of Space and "э" instead of Enter)
radio heavily degraded. lack of stereo reception (not everyone have this issue)
inoperative camera (not everyone)
applications size display issuer
excessive battery drain
sluggish scrolling in stock browser
wifi-tethering glitch (doesn't save settings)
intense overheating when on charge and during heavy load.
"Phone" application doesn't change its locale when changing system language from Russian to English
(original post is located at _http_://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=162138&view=findpost&p=4928464)
Problems with localization files. Eg. if running Danish locale, names on months are not shown in 3rd party apps, this happens eg. with Smooth Calendar (dev is working on workaround). Instead numbers are shown, but if switching to English locale, there is no problem.
Has been reported to HTC by me and Smooth Calendar dev., let's hope they respond and fix this, with some of the other bugs mentioned in this thread.
maxupp said:
The idea behind this thread is to collect them all (POKEMON! xD).
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I'm having issues with Gmail notifications / sync.
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742442
some thumbnails of videos are scrambled. This was fine pre-upgrade.
upgraded OTA on unbranded desire
i dont have one of them problems you mensioned, battery dosent get hot, no probs switching from g to h, camcorder hasnt crashed, browers stars at my homepage, google, fbook and twitter all sync fine and the paid apps prob will be sorted by google now the desires new vendor id is public, overall im very impressed with the froyo upgrade
@androhero:
How EXACTLY did you aquire froyo?
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@androhero:
How EXACTLY did you aquire froyo?
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from the development section, it wasnt a custom rom tho, just the ota with the hboot removed

Kaiser Android slowdown

I'm running dzo's kernel 09/09/10 and dzo's froyo 02/09/10, but I've been experiencing these problems with the CyanogenMod port as well. Basically the phone often becomes sluggish and unresponsive. I've tried using Startup Manager to trim down the running processes, but it doesn't seem to work for me. Taskpanel seems to show a typical free memory level of less than 30MB. I'm not running a huge number of apps, although everything is installed to flash, as is Android.
Is there anything I can do to prevent these slowdowns? I take it installing apps to SD card won't actually free up core memory.
Typically in my experience Froyo or rather CM6 tends to get sluggish after a while, due to more and more processes using up available RAM, I'm not sure this is actually helped by task management, since most tasks simply restart if killed before they have done their job.
It's not just confined to our Kaiser CM6 ports either, I had the same sort of thing on my G1.
I just went back to 2.1 builds and have been happy with my average 30Mb free ram ever since, without task management, and yes, that includes my G1.
Apps2sd will free up space on data storage, however it will not free up RAM sadly, which is where the problem is.
Another thing I have found recently on the froyo that is slowing me down is the stupid download folder on the sd card. The market uses this and if you have a partial download, ever, it seems to cause issues until you delete the files out of there.

Task manager/running services

Ok most of us other than the few lucky ones are having high android os battery usage. Back to my HTC Hero days I never used a task manager and I know they are bad and all that. But what is the difference between the task manager on the phone when u kill the 1, 2 whatever apps are running like internet you always have to kill it in the task manager, but whats the difference between that and the running services? I have been using that for over a yr now with my Evo, Evo 3D, and now this. In the task manager nothing is going but I go into running services and Facebook, media hub, others like that are always running and I always force close. I know the voicemail, maps, and a few others is always running but on other phones I have never seen system updates running and each time I close it, it starts right back up Could there be something along those lines causing the high android os usage.

[Q] Google Services using massive data constantly... what's going on here?

Ever since upgrading to Lollipop (5.0.1), my G3 has been consuming vast quantities of mobile data (much more than it does on Wi-Fi) , at a rate that is threatening even my 1GB monthly cap. I have never had this issue with this phone before upgrading, nor with any other phone I have owned, and I can't find any resources about it online. It appears to use small amounts of data (a few KB) continuously throughout the day, not in large chunks, so it is not Google trying and failing to download a software update like come CM users have seen.
I uninstalled every app that I did not have before the Lollipop upgrade, as well as any potentially troublesome apps, to no avail. Then I tried booting into safe mode, removing all my synced accounts except the main Google one, turning off sync for that account, turning off data backup, clearing the caches of all my apps, and not opening any non-stock apps for a day. Even with all that, it still ran through a few megs in just an afternoon. Turning everything back on and setting accounts back up did not increase or decrease the data consumption. Restricting its background data does stop it from using mobile data, but it also seriously cripples my device (Play store stops working, sync stops working, calendar etc. stop working...)
I attached screenshots that show its data usage. It decreased considerably around June 9th because I finally got Wi-Fi in my room. But even still, it continues to eat my data for no apparent reason. I REALLY want to avoid a factory reset (and I doubt it would help anyway, since it was factory reset for the upgrade, and running everything completely stock doesn't help).
Can anyone give me some ideas here?
Info about the phone:
Model: LG-D851 (T-Mobile)
Android version: 5.0.1 (stock, rooted)
Kernel version: 3.4.0
Software version: D85120b
Network: olleh (South Korea, the same SIM card I used with the phone before the upgrade)
Google Play Services version: 7.5.71 (1955121-430)
Google Services Framework/Google Account Manager versions: 5.0.1-1602158
Hey, try limiting background data. There should be a tick above the usage graph.
Also many people have problems after upgrading to lollipop, including me, you should try factory reset. I had like half of my apps broken and frequent crashes after upgrading.
Martin
SareMa96 said:
Hey, try limiting background data. There should be a tick above the usage graph.
Also many people have problems after upgrading to lollipop, including me, you should try factory reset. I had like half of my apps broken and frequent crashes after upgrading.
Martin
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Hi Martin, thanks for the reply. I'm trying to avoid restricting background data because I often have to go long stretches without Wi-Fi, and a lot of my apps stop working properly if background data is restricted. And I don't want to factory reset because it takes me days to set my phone back up to how it was.

Settings app issues

I've been having some issues with the settings app for quite some time on android globally, as I like to abuse my phone and was wondering if anyone has found a fix for this.
I have a little over 700 apps on my phone and I've found that whenever I get above a certain amount on my phone, the settings app will no longer properly work when loading apps. This happens a little over 400 apps I believe, and catlog specifically crashes at:
exception at com.android.settings, PID: 25067
exception at com.android.settingsLib.applications.ApplicationsState $AppEntry.getBadgedIcon(ApplicationsState.java:1170)
exception at com.android.settingsLib.applications.ApplicationsState $AppEntry.ensureIconLocked(ApplicationsState.java:1149)
exception at com.android.settingsLib.applications.ApplicationsState $BackgroundHandler.handleMessage(ApplicationsState.java:856)
From what I can tell online this might be an out of memory exception, and will occur even if I directly load a single app for management from a program like Link2SD.
I'm on stock marshmallow now, though I've had issued in lollipop as well. I am rooted and using xposed, and have plenty of available RAM and storage space.

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