I'm running dzo's kernel 09/09/10 and dzo's froyo 02/09/10, but I've been experiencing these problems with the CyanogenMod port as well. Basically the phone often becomes sluggish and unresponsive. I've tried using Startup Manager to trim down the running processes, but it doesn't seem to work for me. Taskpanel seems to show a typical free memory level of less than 30MB. I'm not running a huge number of apps, although everything is installed to flash, as is Android.
Is there anything I can do to prevent these slowdowns? I take it installing apps to SD card won't actually free up core memory.
Typically in my experience Froyo or rather CM6 tends to get sluggish after a while, due to more and more processes using up available RAM, I'm not sure this is actually helped by task management, since most tasks simply restart if killed before they have done their job.
It's not just confined to our Kaiser CM6 ports either, I had the same sort of thing on my G1.
I just went back to 2.1 builds and have been happy with my average 30Mb free ram ever since, without task management, and yes, that includes my G1.
Apps2sd will free up space on data storage, however it will not free up RAM sadly, which is where the problem is.
Another thing I have found recently on the froyo that is slowing me down is the stupid download folder on the sd card. The market uses this and if you have a partial download, ever, it seems to cause issues until you delete the files out of there.
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So after a soft reset, without Goodlink running, I have at least 27mb available..and with Goodlink, I still have 12-15mb Program Mem free...
Over the course of the day, Mem would drop to between 4-8mb. There is nothing else I can close with HTC X-button.
Exiting out of Goodlink does give me back more mem (12mb or so), but GL is a 'must have' app. Soft reset brings up the same cycle....
anyone else notice any memory issues or decreased Mem throughout the day? Could possibly be on of the apps installed?
I did not have this 'leak' with the un-official Asian/dopod WM6 release, though I like the new att wm6 release and would like to stick with it if I could. Also, with that ROM, I only had Goodlink and a_c slide2Unlock
I am currently running the official ATT WM6 release
3.62.502.3 and these are the installed apps:
(radio ver I downgraded to 1.47 but the radio shouldn't matter)
Goodlink (compressed the 4mb exe into 2mb with UPX4PPC)
PocketCM Keyboard with iPhone (2many skin)
A_C slide to unlock (ver 1.17 because I like this older version)
HTC X-button ver 1.51
MS Live Search
SJ keyboard skin - Touch
battlevel.exe
There have been versions of slide to unlock that had memory leak problems (.99c does not). Try disabling it for a day and see if thats the problem. You can also use oxios to free up allocated RAM throughout the day.
This has been a regularly recurring issue for me since I can remember. I've been using Schap's 4.01 for months now and find that I need to reset every couple of days. Sorry that I don't have a solution for you, but perhaps someone else here can give a recommendation on how to go about freeing up memory that has become consumed by the OS and programs running in it.
The only thing that I can think of might be to try going to 'Settings -> System -> Memory -> Running programs' and close down anything else that may be running in the background. Also, try checking the running processes in FDCSoft Task Manager 2.7 and see if there are any programs that can be closed out there as well. Let me know if you figure anything out, thanks!
Cheers and good luck!
SKTools FreeUP RAM
I use SK Tools FreeUP RAM function to free program memory throughout the day. Even at that, every couple of days I need to soft reset. Typically, I will drop down to about 18MB of Program Memory, then FreeUP RAM and get back to 21MB, then soft reset and get back to 23-24MB.
It seems rather absurd, I know, but one gets used to it.
SKTools costs money and takes up memory (luckily installed on my Storage Card) and you would think this functionality would be in WM6.
Hmm.. So if everyone has this problem of sorts, and with all the various ROMs... the only common ground here is WM6 OS?
I'll try these freeMEM programs and give it a whirl
PS.. (The 'memory leak' was still happening even before I had installed A_C Slide2Unlock, though I will take it off again just to be sure)
WM6 memory leak on Sprint Mogul
I recently purchased a Sprint Mogul and upgraded to the latest ROM that HTC put out on their site on 3/10/08. I have installed many programs but only 3 launch at startup which are iLock2 [screen lock], TouchPal [a thumbable keyboard] and Microsoft's own Voice Command v 1.6. Voice Command is the largest user of memory, approx. 2.3 MB. TouchPal uses about 990 kb and iLock uses less than 35 kb. After about 1 hour I'm down to 11 MB of free memory and I didn't do anything or run a single thing on my device. If I try to launch PIE or Media Player, forget it, there's so little RAM left that it freezes in about 15 minutes of usage. So, if I want to use either of these, I have to do so immediately after a soft reset.
Based on my observations above and testing below, WM6 OS has a memory leak!
To make sure I give WM6 a fair chance, I had to measure the memory immediately after a Hard Rest. So that's exactly what I did 3 times and here are my findings:
Test #1...................FREE RAM IMMEDIATE...........FREE RAM IN 1 HOUR
Hard Reset #1...................24.15 MB...........................19.98 MB
Hard Reset #2...................24.15 MB...........................20.02 MB
Hard Reset #3...................24.14 MB...........................19.96 MB
Bottom line, I'm losing memory for no reason. I have not loaded any of my own programs AND I did not allow the Sprint bloatware to be installed either by doing a soft reset before the 3 second countdown.
Now the memory loss from Test #1 might not seem huge, but after loading my programs and PIM data the difference was even more dramatic, see Test #2. [FYI, I took the "IMMEDIATE" measurements in Test #1 and #2 as soon as the computer would allow me to access the memory console. Not perfect science, but close.]
Test #2......................FREE RAM IMMEDIATE........FREE RAM IN 20 MINS
Soft Reset #1.....................21.37 MB............................13.69 MB
Soft Reset #2.....................21.45 MB............................13.35 MB
Soft Reset #3.....................21.46 MB............................13.44 MB
Finally, to eliminate some rogue process eating all of my memory, I measured the process growth. I was able to do so after each soft reset by using Task Manager v.2.9, which I installed. A few of them grew in size, not sure why, but they did, so below is a sample of their growth. [I actually did this several times and the numbers below are representative of what I found in each of the trials.]
Test #3...................IMMEDIATE.................20 MINS
device.exe..................2682 kb...................2696 kb
cprog.exe...................1749 kb...................2024 kb
gwes.exe....................1559 kb...................1666 kb
filesys.exe..................1538 kb...................1751 kb
While the processes grew, it wasn't significant enough to offset the loss in memory illustrated in Test #2. I also watched the processes associated with my 3 programs that launched at startup and the other OS processes, 15 in all. Some of those grew ever so slightly as well. But in aggregate, the growth for all 15 processes from the time immediately following the reset to 20 minutes later only accounted for 855 kb while I saw my memory drop on average 8 MB.
What could be happening?
I believe the OS is loading something into memory [RAM checker, scanner, cleaner, etc.] that I can't see in the processes or application window and after it's done, it is not releasing the memory, ergo a memory leak.
Thoughts?
AT&T 8525/WM6 Memory
The memory on my AT&T 8525 was not great to start out with. After upgrading with HTC's WM6, it's so bad that Internet Explorer is barely usable. It slows down and freezes after viewing a few sites. I have to close the program and restart.
Ditch the rom you are using now and try this one out. I start with 31 mb's free after a reset. Problem solved.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917
Hi all.. Has anyone noticed any difference on the way android treats running apps and memory after froyo upgrade?
I hv been using SystemPanel Lite (by NextApp Inc) as from the first days of my Desire (April); actually not as a task-killer but for monitoring system, running apps/services and memory. It shows apps that are running and visible, running in the background and those that are inactive at the moment.
Before froyo, there were fewer apps running in the background, and most of the apps that were opened by me or activated automatically by OS were in "inactive" status. Now -after froyo- there is almost no any apps/services that are reported as inactive (?); all of them (appr 41 apps/services right now!) are running in the background, some of them (14 pcs) third party apps which were installed from the market, all the rest are android or HTC system apps/services, and no any single app seen in "inactive" at the present.
(My device is unrooted, generic HTC Desire with official froyo)
I noticed that too, but I think it could be just down to some way the systempanel reads application state or some formal changes.
Me, too. I also noticed (ironcally) that several google apps seem less stable than before. I also had to do a soft reset as the only way to force close the FM Radio. Companionlink synching hasn't been the same, either, occasionally clearing all the data and starting from zero - very annoying when you have 1200 contacts...
But improved reception on phone and wi-fi have made up for all that.
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Some time ago I begun testing android with both data on sd and nand, both options were doing fine. There were issues with animations etc but it was usable, switching between apps was ok. It slowly started to be slow. Then my sd card broke, I got a new one and i was rather surprised because it became very fast at animations(like unlocking, closing and openin the ADW tray etc), but it is now extremely slow(like in topic) when trying to run a software, surf the internet or just write something on connecbot while listening to music, which i think was possible and fine. |Any ideas what is the problem?
Info:
KAIS130
HardSPL 33. .34
KrazyKilla kernel V .5.7
Cyanogenmod LRS6.1(rls 5)
msichal said:
Some time ago I begun testing android with both data on sd and nand, both options were doing fine. There were issues with animations etc but it was usable, switching between apps was ok. It slowly started to be slow. Then my sd card broke, I got a new one and i was rather surprised because it became very fast at animations(like unlocking, closing and openin the ADW tray etc), but it is now extremely slow(like in topic) when trying to run a software, surf the internet or just write something on connecbot while listening to music, which i think was possible and fine. |Any ideas what is the problem?
Info:
KAIS130
HardSPL 33. .34
KrazyKilla kernel V .5.7
Cyanogenmod LRS6.1(rls 5)
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NAND install? I have very little hands on CM builds since they are kinda slow for me as well. Try the build in my signature.
SD Installs are usually DEAD slow. I suggest you to install on NAND and enjoy blazing fast speed.
I keep getting low space messages even though I have around 500MB free space. I understand that the OS needs a bit of free space but this seems a rather large amount. In fact 500MB is more space that the whole of my last phone (HTC Desire) had across all partitions and then I would get notifications about low space when I only had around 16MB free.
Is there any hack/mod force stop this happening when there's such a high amount of space?
Thanks
I'm running AOKP build 38 but this has happened across all roms I've tried.
Heres an example of it happening when I had around 490MB free. http://i.imgur.com/PyzuB.jpg
Your phone sees it as you only have 3.1% space left, and since everything is stored internally on the GNex, that is dangerously close to the loss of function of apps and such (due to caching needs and so on)... soooo no.... you should probably delete some unnecessary bulk?
I am actually running into the same problem, but it is only when I try installing from an .apk directly. When I download something from the play store I do not experience this problem. I have well over 7GB free...
Anyone else experience this?
Edit: Nevermind, it was a single .apk that was the problem.
I have noticed that when I first install a new ROM--GB, ICS, or JB, doesn't seem to matter--my phone runs lickety-split fast and is wonderful.
Over the course of a few days, though, it starts to become sluggish and laggy. When it starts to get extreme, the OS will frequently pop messages about "xxxxx is not responding. Would you like to close it?"
The only possible correlation I can discern is that this sluggish behavior seems to get worse when I install more apps. I am running the EXT4 unlimited data mod, and typically have ~200MB free in the /datadata partition. I think I start seeing the sluggishness when /datadata free space starts dropping into the 400-350MB range or so.
Have other folks noticed similar sluggishness? Has anyone else figured out what the trigger for it is, and how to avoid it?
I'd be curious to see people respond to the following questions:
1) Do you perceive your Inc to be generally "fast" or "sluggish"?
2) How much free space is in your /datadata partition? (Does anyone _not_ run the unlimited data mod these days?)
Thanks....
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I have noticed that when I first install a new ROM--GB, ICS, or JB, doesn't seem to matter--my phone runs lickety-split fast and is wonderful.
Over the course of a few days, though, it starts to become sluggish and laggy. When it starts to get extreme, the OS will frequently pop messages about "xxxxx is not responding. Would you like to close it?"
The only possible correlation I can discern is that this sluggish behavior seems to get worse when I install more apps. I am running the EXT4 unlimited data mod, and typically have ~200MB free in the /datadata partition. I think I start seeing the sluggishness when /datadata free space starts dropping into the 400-350MB range or so.
Have other folks noticed similar sluggishness? Has anyone else figured out what the trigger for it is, and how to avoid it?
I'd be curious to see people respond to the following questions:
1) Do you perceive your Inc to be generally "fast" or "sluggish"?
2) How much free space is in your /datadata partition? (Does anyone _not_ run the unlimited data mod these days?)
Thanks....
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I think mine is mostly fast. It sometimes bogs down, but usually recovers without reboots or fc's.
I am using the ext4 mod, and i have 243.44mb free in data/datadata at the moment.
MysticCobra said:
I'd be curious to see people respond to the following questions:
1) Do you perceive your Inc to be generally "fast" or "sluggish"?
2) How much free space is in your /datadata partition? (Does anyone _not_ run the unlimited data mod these days?)
Thanks....
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I do not use the unlimited data mod, I have been managing with a 150Mb /datadata partition. I don't use Facebook or Chrome, I know Chrome is a huge space hog and I've heard Facebook is too. For me the biggest downside of not using the nodatalimit mod is having to keep a decent number of apps on the sd card (some apps, when moved to SD, take their /datadata junk along with them), which makes mounting and unmounting it pretty slow, also slows down boot times. I rarely unmount the sd though, I typically copy stuff to and from an SMB share on my desktop computer - but I digress...
1. My dinc is pretty fast. I have seen more of the slowdown you describe on other people's phones and on my own phone with ICS/JB. (JB was especially bad when we had the bug where the CPU max frequency would get stuck at 614kHz). I ran Ice Cream Senseless for several months (which is GB/Sense themed and stripped), often saw uptimes of over 200 hours, and had zero problems with sluggishness or FC's.
2. Currently my phone storage partition shows:
/data 748M total, 223.7M used, 524.3M free
...and my /datadata partition shows:
/data/data 149M total, 117M used, 32M free
Titanium Backup gives a nice breakdown of how much storage apps are using, though it takes a very, very long time to calculate it.
the biggest space hogs for me is email(i have 4 accounts), facebook and a few you don;t have control over like Google Maps, Amazon App Store, Text messages, ect....So for me, I was easily exceeding 70-80 MB out of 150 for just data. Hence, once you get to below 20-30 mb free, the phone becomes unstable and in danger of going into a boot loop. I was able to use APP2SD Pro App to delete cache files occasionally but that was getting to be a tedious every day task.
Right now I at about 240-330 free of 750. About 70 MB seems to be stuff the Google Play Store caches so I have to clear that occasionally.
One thing I wonder if people are keeping track of-the Dinc and alot of older Android devices have only 512 mb of RAM. Some are worse and only 256mb. Installing programs even if not in use seems to load the programs in memory. if the memory manager does not kill these efficiently, you might get slow to sluggish behaviour. I am running OS Monitor on my phones and it does report that I have only about 45 mb of RAM free. the worst seems to happen when you are switching between apps alot-I think it;s possible for a 2nd or 3rd instance of a program to get loaded in memory temporarily. So I have removed as much from my installation as possible-stuff that should be benign like GMAIL just to prevent it from loading.
I don;t know any of this to be a fact though, I am just an end user sharing my experience.
Just an update on storage space issues, I recently installed a bunch of apps that had to reside in the phone memory. Checked in App2sd and it said I consumed about 600 of the 749 mb. I uninstalled the unnecessary stuff and cleared the cache. So I am sitting on 280 mb free now.
Without the low space fix ext4 mod, this would have been a FATAL situation resulting in a boot loop and needing a complete wipe and reset.
Sent from a HTC Droid Incredible running CM 10.1