is it possible to install parts from the sense 3.5 port into either a 2.1 or 3.0 sense rom? 3.5 is nice but it provides to much lag on my phone
I wouldn't see why u would just have to strip the apk or just install what u want
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kyuubi08 said:
is it possible to install parts from the sense 3.5 port into either a 2.1 or 3.0 sense rom? 3.5 is nice but it provides to much lag on my phone
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Sense 3.5 should actually lag less as it was built for a less powerful phone than this one.
I'm pretty sure the lag is from it not being optimized yet as the devs are more concerned with stability and fixing the bugs.
Sense 3.0 was actually far more laggy and slower than this when it started. Give it time, it will get better.
i know, im just impatient lol. i just cant wait for it to be as stable as business sense. cant wait for nils to add some of his modds to the project
I'll be as giddy as a school girl on prom night once Nils works his Business magic into this.
But, to answer your question, I think it all depends on the app you're wanting to install. Some were built around the 3.5 framework thus would need some tweaking to work on previous versions of Sense. At least that is my understanding from reading the Bliss thread and others on the development forum.
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is it just me or do it seem like the all the roms with the sense 3.0 on it the widget respond slow??
Jcki4 said:
is it just me or do it seem like the all the roms with the sense 3.0 on it the widget respond slow??
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You can't expect a Rom that's not even suppose to be on our phone to be fully functional and stable. It was originally said that our phone wouldn't be able handle sense 3.0 but these devs proved everyone wrong. They ported it over and little by little the bugs are being worked on and being improved. It's not yet completely stable but I use it as my daily driver and the only problem I have is with battery.
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Sense 3.0 slow?
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You can't expect a Rom that's not even suppose to be on our phone to be fully functional and stable. It was originally said that our phone wouldn't be able handle sense 3.0 but these devs proved everyone wrong. They ported it over and little by little the bugs are being worked on and being improved. It's not yet completely stable but I use it as my daily driver and the only problem I have is with battery.
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The above statement is true. For example, HTC EVO has the older version of Sense. Truth be told, since Sense 3.0 isn't native for the EVO, or the official rom that was designed for the EVO, one can expect maybe a second lag and the occasional unstableness.
I myself am running 2.3.3 with Sense 3.0 on my EVO, credit due to "Virus," one of the many genius devs here at XDA.
Remember, our phones are like world and life -- not perfect. The devs on the other hand -- pure genius -- FACT!
yea your right but i did my research on the sense 3.0 and i never came across them saying htc evo coudnt handle it and in some of the reviews i was reading bout the rom before i try it they said it was pretty stable but the devs pshh im ready to open my bank acct to them they are all pure genus for doing this for the evo and sharing it with ppl
but i just was scare that the 3.0 sense was actually laging on the widget responds but thank you guys for clearing that up
Really happy to see all the new roms poppin' up with Sense 3.0 features. Can someone recommend a good one for me. Preferably fast and stable with solid GPS.
Thanks.
I don't run it but the Alliance Kings Rom v7.3 is getting good reviews from users. It's a 2.1 sense base with 3.0 rosie and King has incorporated alot of 3d widgets. To me that's better than trying to run Kingdom but that's JMO.
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Really happy to see all the new roms poppin' up with Sense 3.0 features. Can someone recommend a good one for me. Preferably fast and stable with solid GPS.
Thanks.
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Really going to be trial and error. What one person considers fast and stable, another might not.
Flash one, use it for a week or so, try another and use for a week or so... etc.
djwalter said:
I don't run it but the Alliance Kings Rom v7.3 is getting good reviews from users. It's a 2.1 sense base with 3.0 rosie and King has incorporated alot of 3d widgets. To me that's better than trying to run Kingdom but that's JMO.
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Wow Alliance Kings Rom is much faster. Thanks for the recommendation.
grandpasghost said:
Wow Alliance Kings Rom is much faster. Thanks for the recommendation.
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It's not. i love alliance and what i currently use but Mikg is a much more faster and stable rom. Keep using alliance for the rest of the day and you will realize plenty of lag issues and widgets locking up.
I use it because i love there stock rom. its clean and dark. Mikg is much more faster but lacks some 3.0 elements such as the carousel rosie and some widgets i enjoy using. and the rosie for Mikg is that boring grey one and the themes they have for it have been getting some negative results, but thats because there still in beta.
im more of a look guy as everyone knows so i would still prefer Alliance 7.3 but looking for quicker and more stable and not so much looks then Mikg
as the title says
I think 3.5 is nice to see but there are too much Bugs in it because it´s ported.
Official Sense 3 is maybe not such fast but stable.
Sense 3.5 seems to have issues with being able to be ported effectively, yet the UI feels slightly faster, it is a much of a muchness, as it's not really a true test in my opinion. Getting away from the obvious differences in the User Interface given current ROMS, it's pretty much down to Kernals and OC/UV set-up which can differ depending on user, as Devs are great at making their ROMS as efficient as they can.
Both in my opinion are fast, when you compare to how our phones used to be as stock, and really depends on the expectation of an individual, which UI they prefer, and how important a little extra speed really means to day to day running and use of your phone.
sense 3 is much faster than 3.5.......sense 3 of dual core sensation isnt that fast.....
rohithksaj said:
sense 3 is much faster than 3.5.......sense 3 of dual core sensation isnt that fast.....
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what sense 3 ROM are you using?
i dont care its fast or not, i just want the rom to be stable and bug free.
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what sense 3 ROM are you using?
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itz in ma signature....
the RS sensation sense 3.5 rom is pretty smooth, but imo, virtuous (2.35) is smoother. It also doesnt f/c as much (and doesnt have apps that cant be used such as mirror[no ffc])
some guys like sense 3.5 just because of the notes widget, facebook chat app, task widget and the rotation animations..!!
Virtuous 2.35 is the best, bug free everything is smoother faster..
Imo sense 3.5 is faster
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I am using Sense 3.0 since quite sometime and i do not see any issue related to speed. Its quite fast, yet to try sense 3.5. waiting for bug free version of 3.5
Guyz....i'm a new member of this forum. I use a DHD smart phone; but i'm not smart enough in these issues, i think....
Please help me out about sense 3.5.
Will that work good in my phone? What are the bugs/problems you encountered while using that?
& how can i convert to sense 3.5?
Thanks,
Irfan
irfanul alam said:
Guyz....i'm a new member of this forum. I use a DHD smart phone; but i'm not smart enough in these issues, i think....
Please help me out about sense 3.5.
Will that work good in my phone? What are the bugs/problems you encountered while using that?
& how can i convert to sense 3.5?
Thanks,
Irfan
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Hm.. Flash a sense 3.5 ROM . that the only way
WAIT FOR HTC OTA ? sometime HTC may Disappointed u
sense 3.5 rocks!
i'm quite sure that 3.5 is faster.. e.g. Runnymede with Rosie smoothness patch is fu***** smooth !
Sense 3.0 is fast and stable. I'm using the ARHD 6.1.2 and it's fast, really fast!
Its just a matter of personal choice. Just try both of them ARHD 6.1.2 and Runny 3.0.
Personally i like Sense 3.5 coz it just feels a shade better than 3.0. Primarily there is not much difference between 3.0 or 3.5
As of right now what is currently the fastest/smoothest Sense rom that is still being supported by the dev? Any comments are appreciated
As far as still supported you might be hard to find consitency...
My opinions would be for:
TeeROM 3.0 - developers "final" version
Stock+ 3.01 - Not getting active dev but its by far one of the best Sense roms.
McSense 2.6 - Another solid but non-dev rom
Edit: The likelyhood of finding a sense rom 2.1 or higher that is fast on the incredible is very unlikely. Way to resource needy.
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As far as still supported you might be hard to find consitency...
My opinions would be for:
TeeROM 3.0 - developers "final" version
Stock+ 3.01 - Not getting active dev but its by far one of the best Sense roms.
McSense 2.6 - Another solid but non-dev rom
Edit: The likelyhood of finding a sense rom 2.1 or higher that is fast on the incredible is very unlikely. Way to resource needy.
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My port of MikG is snappy and trouble free. Of course I could be a little biased. Lol. But seriously. It is the best Sense 2.1 + ROM as far as stability and speed. That's why I ported over the newest version for us. Try it at theMikMik. MikG Incredible forum. I think you'll be pleased.
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I'd say any of the Sense 1.0 roms should be fine. If you want one without bloat, or many tweaks, Liberation 3.0 would fit the bill. It's been tested for stability. It is the final version though.
McSense is also a good choice for some theming and tweaks.
I just avoid any rom based off of another phone (port). Including Sense 3.0+
Personally I run a custom cm7 kang that I've stripped down and removed everything I deemed unnecessary. Turned off animations, use Launcher Pro, and it flies faster than any Sense rom.
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I would have to go with mikg man, this thing flys !
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What parts of sense are you wanting intact? If you're simply looking to stay away from AOSP, my experience with Insensitive Minimalist has been excellent. Very fast and designed to be highly customizable. I like it so much for its stability and compatibility I keep flashing back to my backup of that while I wait on issues to get hammered out of ICS. My other dinc is running Stock+, so if you want a ROM that is mostly stock, its also good. Inc Ultimate looks like its worth a try, but I haven't gotten around to it.
Ultimately, "still in development" is something I don't think applies to any sense Rom at the moment, as most of the really active devs seem to have moved on to other devices.
I flashed MikG and so far I'm loving it How is it with Gingertiny kernel?
I haven't tried them all, but have tried a few of the Sense 3.5 roms - and of course my stock Sense 2 roms - Virtuous Unity, Sense...quite slow and laggy.
Also tried BeatMod Bliss Sense - again same story...slow, laggy.
But just switched from G-Lite 2 (non sense rom( to MikRoms MikRunny 1.0 and for a Sense 3.5 based rom it's FAST. Faster than my original slow Gingerbread ROM, actually!
Add Supercharger script and a SDcard partition and you're flying ;-)
Oh I have a Desire Z, so RAM/speed is a real issue. So impressive that a ROM could run anything about Sense 2 at anything but prehistoric speeds :-D
Hey there,
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light as to why Sense 3.5 ROMs tend to lag so much? I've tried practically every one from Virtuous Affinity, to RCMix 3D to RunnyMead. By far, I got the smoothest experience from the latter. I tried everything to try to improve performance from removing unnecessary system apps like HTC Watch, to using Supercharger script, to a sd-ext on my SD card. Yet I can never seem to escape lag! Now I'm using a Sense 3.0 rom, that is, Virtuous Unity and it's so much faster and smoother despite its using up a similar amount of space. I really like the 3.5 ROMs but I just can't use them because they're too slow and laggy despite my best efforts to speed them up...
I could be wrong but the sense 3.5 is a port from another phone that may be why. To be honest I dislike sense with a passion. I'm an AOSP type of guy. I'm pretty sure that the developers working on that rom will make it faster. Btw you mentioned your using sdext which one are you using?
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blahbl4hblah said:
I could be wrong but the sense 3.5 is a port from another phone that may be why. To be honest I dislike sense with a passion. I'm an AOSP type of guy. I'm pretty sure that the developers working on that rom will make it faster. Btw you mentioned your using sdext which one are you using?
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Yeah I tried AOSP but I only like Ice Cream Sandwich, which still isn't working fully at the moment. I'm using a 128mb sd ext4 with a 256 swap partition.
You call Virtuous Unity fast? I used it for 2 months and easily can say that it is the laggiest thing I have ever seen, but these kind of things are relative... Have you tried MikRunny or BeatMod BlissSense Hybird? I am using BlissSense now and so happy with it, even without swap or supercharger, it doesn't lag, and also Bliss rosie looks really classy
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You call Virtuous Unity fast? I used it for 2 months and easily can say that it is the laggiest thing I have ever seen, but these kind of things are relative... Have you tried MikRunny or BeatMod BlissSense Hybird? I am using BlissSense now and so happy with it, even without swap or supercharger, it doesn't lag, and also Bliss rosie looks really classy
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Yeah I take my statement regarding unity back cos after one day of use, it just kept getting slower and slower... yeah I'm using BlissDroid now, the new one by alirez_sos! So fast, stable and smooth!
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lunoma said:
Hey there,
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light as to why Sense 3.5 ROMs tend to lag so much? I've tried practically every one from Virtuous Affinity, to RCMix 3D to RunnyMead. By far, I got the smoothest experience from the latter. I tried everything to try to improve performance from removing unnecessary system apps like HTC Watch, to using Supercharger script, to a sd-ext on my SD card. Yet I can never seem to escape lag! Now I'm using a Sense 3.0 rom, that is, Virtuous Unity and it's so much faster and smoother despite its using up a similar amount of space. I really like the 3.5 ROMs but I just can't use them because they're too slow and laggy despite my best efforts to speed them up...
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Be Happy We Have Devs Putting their time and effort into porting and making ROMs for us to Flash
Hit that Sexy Thanks button'
Debel said:
Be Happy We Have Devs Putting their time and effort into porting and making ROMs for us to Flash
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OP hasn't criticized the Devs, just asking the technical or specific reason that Sense 3.X ROMs lag in comparison to older versions of Sense.
To some extent, I'm wondering the same thing. Its always said that Sense 3.X takes up more memory than the G2/DZ has to offer. But what exactly is taking up all the memory? For instance, on NRG's RCMix Energized Blue version, he has made for a smooth rosie experience, yet the phone often lags for several seconds when starting apps or going into Settings. Rosie is not the issue alone, since I use ADW as my launcher, and yet the Sense 3.X ROMs still lag.
Hybrid ROMs like Synergy and InsertCoin bring many of the Sense 3.X apps to Sense 2.x (lockscreen, camera, weather and more), and yet those ROMs are much more responsive than Sense 3.x ROMs. So it doesn't seem to be the apps themselves.
If its some component of the Sense framework sucking up memory, has anybody identified what and why, or if it can be removed or modded?
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Yeah I tried AOSP but I only like Ice Cream Sandwich, which still isn't working fully at the moment. I'm using a 128mb sd ext4 with a 256 swap partition.
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I hope you do realize that size of sdext is a reason why your phone is running so slow
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Be Happy We Have Devs Putting their time and effort into porting and making ROMs for us to Flash
Hit that Sexy Thanks button'
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Excuse me, I'm far from ungrateful! I've tried various different ROMs and have offered my feedback on them to the developers so they'll have an idea on which areas to improve. I think the work that has been done has been fantastic such as the recent addition of Ice Cream Sandwich, which will I believe be glitch free. I was merely asking why some Sense 3.0 ROMs tend to be laggy and what have other people's experiences been of them.
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I hope you do realize that size of sdext is a reason why your phone is running so slow
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Oh that was the size that was recommended on the Virtuous Affinity thread... what size would you yourself recommend in that case? Thanks!
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Oh that was the size that was recommended on the Virtuous Affinity thread... what size would you yourself recommend in that case? Thanks!
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1gb, I don't know why they recommended the smallest possible size which causes your phone to run so slow. All of my roms use sdext and I always recommend at least 1gb
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1gb, I don't know why they recommended the smallest possible size which causes your phone to run so slow. All of my roms use sdext and I always recommend at least 1gb
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Intresting.. I'll try it on hmm.. on what? Which rom you recomended to daily use? Sense 3.0 and 3.5 of course, doesn't matter which.
Youleck said:
Intresting.. I'll try it on hmm.. on what? Which rom you recomended to daily use? Sense 3.0 and 3.5 of course, doesn't matter which.
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I say go aosp its faster then both and you'll have a smoother experience. I'm an aosp guy not sense but stability wise go 3.0
Sense roms take time to break in, especially on the G2.
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1gb, I don't know why they recommended the smallest possible size which causes your phone to run so slow. All of my roms use sdext and I always recommend at least 1gb
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I use 512mb. Works for me on sense roms. I gave up 3.0 sense cause of the lag. I guess because of the amount of resources it drains there's a performance hit. It became to much of a hassle. My opinion. Still sexy ass rom lol
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