Sense 3.5 ROMs - Why so laggy? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey there,
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light as to why Sense 3.5 ROMs tend to lag so much? I've tried practically every one from Virtuous Affinity, to RCMix 3D to RunnyMead. By far, I got the smoothest experience from the latter. I tried everything to try to improve performance from removing unnecessary system apps like HTC Watch, to using Supercharger script, to a sd-ext on my SD card. Yet I can never seem to escape lag! Now I'm using a Sense 3.0 rom, that is, Virtuous Unity and it's so much faster and smoother despite its using up a similar amount of space. I really like the 3.5 ROMs but I just can't use them because they're too slow and laggy despite my best efforts to speed them up...

I could be wrong but the sense 3.5 is a port from another phone that may be why. To be honest I dislike sense with a passion. I'm an AOSP type of guy. I'm pretty sure that the developers working on that rom will make it faster. Btw you mentioned your using sdext which one are you using?
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blahbl4hblah said:
I could be wrong but the sense 3.5 is a port from another phone that may be why. To be honest I dislike sense with a passion. I'm an AOSP type of guy. I'm pretty sure that the developers working on that rom will make it faster. Btw you mentioned your using sdext which one are you using?
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Yeah I tried AOSP but I only like Ice Cream Sandwich, which still isn't working fully at the moment. I'm using a 128mb sd ext4 with a 256 swap partition.

You call Virtuous Unity fast? I used it for 2 months and easily can say that it is the laggiest thing I have ever seen, but these kind of things are relative... Have you tried MikRunny or BeatMod BlissSense Hybird? I am using BlissSense now and so happy with it, even without swap or supercharger, it doesn't lag, and also Bliss rosie looks really classy

TRFFTR said:
You call Virtuous Unity fast? I used it for 2 months and easily can say that it is the laggiest thing I have ever seen, but these kind of things are relative... Have you tried MikRunny or BeatMod BlissSense Hybird? I am using BlissSense now and so happy with it, even without swap or supercharger, it doesn't lag, and also Bliss rosie looks really classy
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Yeah I take my statement regarding unity back cos after one day of use, it just kept getting slower and slower... yeah I'm using BlissDroid now, the new one by alirez_sos! So fast, stable and smooth!

Ungrateful
lunoma said:
Hey there,
I was wondering if anyone could shed some light as to why Sense 3.5 ROMs tend to lag so much? I've tried practically every one from Virtuous Affinity, to RCMix 3D to RunnyMead. By far, I got the smoothest experience from the latter. I tried everything to try to improve performance from removing unnecessary system apps like HTC Watch, to using Supercharger script, to a sd-ext on my SD card. Yet I can never seem to escape lag! Now I'm using a Sense 3.0 rom, that is, Virtuous Unity and it's so much faster and smoother despite its using up a similar amount of space. I really like the 3.5 ROMs but I just can't use them because they're too slow and laggy despite my best efforts to speed them up...
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Debel said:
Be Happy We Have Devs Putting their time and effort into porting and making ROMs for us to Flash
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OP hasn't criticized the Devs, just asking the technical or specific reason that Sense 3.X ROMs lag in comparison to older versions of Sense.
To some extent, I'm wondering the same thing. Its always said that Sense 3.X takes up more memory than the G2/DZ has to offer. But what exactly is taking up all the memory? For instance, on NRG's RCMix Energized Blue version, he has made for a smooth rosie experience, yet the phone often lags for several seconds when starting apps or going into Settings. Rosie is not the issue alone, since I use ADW as my launcher, and yet the Sense 3.X ROMs still lag.
Hybrid ROMs like Synergy and InsertCoin bring many of the Sense 3.X apps to Sense 2.x (lockscreen, camera, weather and more), and yet those ROMs are much more responsive than Sense 3.x ROMs. So it doesn't seem to be the apps themselves.
If its some component of the Sense framework sucking up memory, has anybody identified what and why, or if it can be removed or modded?

lunoma said:
Yeah I tried AOSP but I only like Ice Cream Sandwich, which still isn't working fully at the moment. I'm using a 128mb sd ext4 with a 256 swap partition.
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I hope you do realize that size of sdext is a reason why your phone is running so slow

Debel said:
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Hit that Sexy Thanks button'
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Excuse me, I'm far from ungrateful! I've tried various different ROMs and have offered my feedback on them to the developers so they'll have an idea on which areas to improve. I think the work that has been done has been fantastic such as the recent addition of Ice Cream Sandwich, which will I believe be glitch free. I was merely asking why some Sense 3.0 ROMs tend to be laggy and what have other people's experiences been of them.

blahbl4hblah said:
I hope you do realize that size of sdext is a reason why your phone is running so slow
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Oh that was the size that was recommended on the Virtuous Affinity thread... what size would you yourself recommend in that case? Thanks!

lunoma said:
Oh that was the size that was recommended on the Virtuous Affinity thread... what size would you yourself recommend in that case? Thanks!
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1gb, I don't know why they recommended the smallest possible size which causes your phone to run so slow. All of my roms use sdext and I always recommend at least 1gb

blahbl4hblah said:
1gb, I don't know why they recommended the smallest possible size which causes your phone to run so slow. All of my roms use sdext and I always recommend at least 1gb
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Intresting.. I'll try it on hmm.. on what? Which rom you recomended to daily use? Sense 3.0 and 3.5 of course, doesn't matter which.

Youleck said:
Intresting.. I'll try it on hmm.. on what? Which rom you recomended to daily use? Sense 3.0 and 3.5 of course, doesn't matter which.
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I say go aosp its faster then both and you'll have a smoother experience. I'm an aosp guy not sense but stability wise go 3.0

Sense roms take time to break in, especially on the G2.
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blahbl4hblah said:
1gb, I don't know why they recommended the smallest possible size which causes your phone to run so slow. All of my roms use sdext and I always recommend at least 1gb
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I use 512mb. Works for me on sense roms. I gave up 3.0 sense cause of the lag. I guess because of the amount of resources it drains there's a performance hit. It became to much of a hassle. My opinion. Still sexy ass rom lol
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[Q] Best Rom?

which is the fasts and smoothes Rom that runs on GB 2.3 and sense 3.0?
if been away from the forum for a while and nice to be back and to see sense 3 on the WONDERFUL HTC DESIRE
all thanks to the Devs for their hard time and effort
thanks for help guys?
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Jeez, seriously?
Meaple said:
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
Jeez, seriously?
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Could not agree more.
Bahahaha I have never seen that video before.
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qasi said:
which is the fasts and smoothes Rom that runs on GB 2.3 and sense 3.0?
if been away from the forum for a while and nice to be back and to see sense 3 on the WONDERFUL HTC DESIRE
all thanks to the Devs for their hard time and effort
thanks for help guys?
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I use RCMixSCM7/A2SD v2 ROM's by Robocik (the CM7 test3 version is sense 3.0)
or you can try InsertCoin CM7/A2SD v47 by baadnewz
I heard that this one is also pretty fast. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113070
You can try the roms by yourself and then decide which one is the best . Everyone is different and therefore has everyone a different taste .
I'm using InsertCoin cm7 1.08 on my HTC Desire and it works great. Gingerbread plus Sense 3.0 widgets etc
Only flashed my Desire once, but I would imagine once you've done it you can play around with it and flashing it with a diff ROM should be easier/less hoops to jump through.
I'm still using froyo, with gb, I always not enuf space for apps
qasi said:
which is the fasts and smoothes Rom that runs on GB 2.3 and sense 3.0?
if been away from the forum for a while and nice to be back and to see sense 3 on the WONDERFUL HTC DESIRE
all thanks to the Devs for their hard time and effort
thanks for help guys?
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Currently trying out this AceSMod007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113070
Its a sense 2.1 & 3.0 hybrid and seems good so far. The reason I went for this over the other choices is that it only requires a 512mb ext3 partition where as the others require a 1gb ext3. If you used ROM manager to partition your sd card you'll probably have a 512mb partition
i dont like the sense roms much, but i fin redux to be a great rom!
it's fast, clean and simple!
I'm currently using the "Sense2.1+3.0 GB InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.0.8" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940), and loving it. It's nice and fast and really smooth.
There's one version for the CM7 HBOOT and one for the stock hboot, so you can choose the one suitable to your setup.
I'd definitely recommend it but like Balu said, everyone's got different taste.
Here's a video of one of the earlier versions of the InsertCoin ROM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i8XrQt5T38
charmsdark said:
I'm currently using the "Sense2.1+3.0 GB InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.0.8" (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940), and loving it. It's nice and fast and really smooth.
There's one version for the CM7 HBOOT and one for the stock hboot, so you can choose the one suitable to your setup.
I'd definitely recommend it but like Balu said, everyone's got different taste.
Here's a video of one of the earlier versions of the InsertCoin ROM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i8XrQt5T38
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What's the difference between CM7 & A2SD version of insertcoint? Does this takes a lot of space like leedroid GB version?
See sig.
Used to have InsertCoin but I feel this one is just that little bit smoother. Bugger all separating the two, though.
That video is funny has hell but umm the best rom its just sooo many out there and they all have there downsides
iTzAlienX said:
That video is funny has hell but umm the best rom its just sooo many out there and they all have there downsides
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The reason you are mocked is that you asked the equivalent of the question "What is the best car ?". It depends a lot on your own preference and what are you looking for. I see that you are from the States. Do you have a CDMA Desire ?

[Q] Looking for a new Rom

Ok well I have been using Chingy's Incredibly Re-engineered rom since I rooted my phone. But, seeing as how it's looking dead for the moment and I have not been on here stalking roms in a long time. Anyone got any advice on some roms that are similar that might be worth checking out?
New to roots optomized hybrid 2.1. (Think thats what its called) stlynergy rom nightlies are also stable. Im back and forth between them and OMFGB nightlies
Where's ma rosie at?
newtoroot's Optimized Shift is awesome. Perfect for daily use.
Aaawww ive got to upgrade to the new sense ><
newtoroot just put out hybrid 1.8. My new favorite. Slicker than Optimized Shift (hopefully as stable... time will tell).
Thats actually what I am using right now. It's overwhelming me haha. Any mods for it yet?
JoelZ has an incredibly (get it) stable Sense 3.0 ROM.
I use ADW instead of the stock Sense launcher, and with that and Fancy Widgets running I still have more than enough memory free.
mmsnyder said:
JoelZ has an incredibly (get it) stable Sense 3.0 ROM.
I use ADW instead of the stock Sense launcher, and with that and Fancy Widgets running I still have more than enough memory free.
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+1 on Joel's ROM, its by far the best ROM I've put on the dinc. I've tried quite a few and this is the one that has found a home
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slapmeaty said:
newtoroot's Optimized Shift is awesome. Perfect for daily use.
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I Agree, newtoroot's Optimized Shift Is amazingly fast and stable, and has just enough of the newer sense features buit in to make it worth it. the only problem ive had is wifi ocasionally drops and the EMMC doesnt mount in the stock music player(but you can easily get around that with mixzing or PowerAMP till thats fixed)
danrodz said:
+1 on Joel's ROM, its by far the best ROM I've put on the dinc. I've tried quite a few and this is the one that has found a home
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why thank you
The latest kingdom rewind 3d rom is the fastest and cleanest I've used so far
yep im back to being a flash addict. I've flashed almost every rom on the first page ><
so far Hybrid (minus the sense reset) and Skyraider are the ones that have stuck out sense I gotta have sense haha.
DincWeeman said:
yep im back to being a flash addict. I've flashed almost every rom on the first page ><
so far Hybrid (minus the sense reset) and Skyraider are the ones that have stuck out sense I gotta have sense haha.
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Can't believe it took this long to mention SkyRaider. SR4.2 is the balls.
DincWeeman said:
Ok well I have been using Chingy's Incredibly Re-engineered rom since I rooted my phone. But, seeing as how it's looking dead for the moment and I have not been on here stalking roms in a long time. Anyone got any advice on some roms that are similar that might be worth checking out?
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I've used almost all of them out there, including all the new GingerSense ones. Nils seems to do best with that gig (IMHO), but the one I like the most right now is MIUI. Fast, clean, and more customizeable than anything I've seen in awhile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117981
...my $.02. Good Luck and Happy Flashing!
rfarrah said:
I've used almost all of them out there, including all the new GingerSense ones. Nils seems to do best with that gig (IMHO), but the one I like the most right now is MIUI. Fast, clean, and more customizeable than anything I've seen in awhile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117981
...my $.02. Good Luck and Happy Flashing!
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Speaking of MIUI and Sense discussion.....
The pictures here are not Sense. They're MIUI with HELauncher and the (fully functional) Sense 3.0 custom lockscreen for MIUI.
PGleo86 said:
Speaking of MIUI and Sense discussion.....
The pictures here are not Sense. They're MIUI with HELauncher and the (fully functional) Sense 3.0 custom lockscreen for MIUI.
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This makes me want to try out miui again
JoelZ9614 said:
This makes me want to try out miui again
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Funny, it makes me want to try out Sense 3.0... know anyone who makes good Sense 3.0 ROMs?
PGleo86 said:
Funny, it makes me want to try out Sense 3.0... know anyone who makes good Sense 3.0 ROMs?
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<-----------------------He does
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<-----------------------He does
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+1
10 char
Thanks for the roms to try out haha. I'm a little said that skyraider wont get update for the inc anymore at least from how I understand it. Now to try out Miui and synergy while im down at the beach for a week.

[Q] HTC Desire - Girlfriend ROM and apps?

I just bought the SGS2, and my girlfriend is getting my old HTC Desire.
She tried it for a week, with Oxygen ROM and while generally happy with it, she was underwhelmed and annoyed with a few of the more obvious warts of stock android 2.3. The crappy dialer and the crappy keyboard, to name a few.
I then installed a lot of GO apps on it, GO Launcher EX, GO Dialer, GO Widget etc.
While these are in some respects better, they have other issues.
I am now considering if a ROM with Sense would be a good compromise for her. I will not give her the latest stock 2.2 ROM from HTC, I want her to have 2.3. So it would have to be a 2.3 ROM with Sense on it. And I don't even know which version of Sense. I have only really worked with the one in the stock 2.2 ROM from HTC. I think it is Sense 1.9?
So, can you guys recommend a 2.3 ROM with Sense or a 2.3 ROM and some good core apps (dialer, keyboard, sms/texting etc.) that is girlfriend-friendly?
Thanks in advance
I'd recommend one with the Sense 3.0.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
to get a Bliss modification of sebastian runnymede AIO rom, that was designed for girls , see HTC RHYME
pinkfloydhomer said:
So, can you guys recommend a 2.3 ROM with Sense or a 2.3 ROM and some good core apps (dialer, keyboard, sms/texting etc.) that is girlfriend-friendly?
Thanks in advance
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Did you try leedroid's Rom?
Also here is a list of some cool HTC desire Roms With and w/o sense.
hxxp://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/10/htc-desire-custom-roms-list-100910.html
(change hxxp to http in the above link)
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kkoolpatz said:
Did you try leedroid's Rom?
Also here is a list of some cool HTC desire Roms With and w/o sense.
hxxp://alchemistar.blogspot.com/2010/10/htc-desire-custom-roms-list-100910.html
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why you pointing to external link when we have a development section full of nice a great ROMs?
I would recommend a ROM with Sense 2.1/3.0 (Hybrid) because the Sense 3.5/3.0 ROMs are a bit too much sometimes for the Desire as I read and heard (in case of lags and so).
But Runnymede is recommended very often.
So I would go with Revolution or InsertCoin which I self am using since a few months and i'm quite happy with it.
3l_P3sc4d0r said:
I would recommend a ROM with Sense 2.1/3.0 (Hybrid) because the Sense 3.5 ROMs are a bit too much sometimes for the Desire as I read and heard (in case of lags and so).
But Runnymede is recommended very often.
So I would go with Revolution or InsertCoin which I self am using since a few months and i'm quite happy with it.
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+1 for revolution. It's the most stable and lag free sense rom I have ever used. I also think a sense rom is more useful for your gf than a stock Android one. You should definitely let her try revolution
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EvertorN said:
+1 for revolution. It's the most stable and lag free sense rom I have ever used. I also think a sense rom is more useful for your gf than a stock Android one. You should definitely let her try revolution
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this is also my opinion. my girlfrind is verry happy with the sense gui and InsertCoin rom...
Ok, so Revolution or InsertCoin?
pinkfloydhomer said:
Ok, so Revolution or InsertCoin?
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Definitely revolution.
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I would say try both
Why do all threads where people ask recommendations for third party turn out Sense 3.5 and hybrid abomination commercials?
Run either a ruu or flash her a rooted stock rom unless you have an ambition in becoming a mobile phone user support for ungrateful girlfriends.
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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erklat said:
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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You'll probably get laid more often as an added bonus because of it.
@erklat
And I really dont get the point why you always have to bash the other Roms except Supernova's. Supernovas Rom sure is great but there also other good ROMs (even with Sense 3.0/3.5). They are maybe that not stable and so on but the Users also have different preferences. For some eye-candy is the most important feature, for other it is stability and speed.
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@erklat
And I really dont get the point why you always have to bash the other Roms except Supernova's. Supernovas Rom sure is great but there also other good ROMs (even with Sense 3.0/3.5). They are maybe that not stable and so on but the Users also have different preferences. For some eye-candy is the most important feature, for other it is stability and speed.
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Not that I don't bash just supernova, I don't bash either of the Sense 1.9 roms, aosp roms, or even roms which are broken and are advertised as such.
And I have no beef with roms or their developers, but with idiots that turn every rom recommendation thread into this. OK, you're free to do whatever you want, but you can't come and write "Sense 3.5/ICS :drool:, this, this, this and this doesn't work, but it's perfect".
As far as I'm concerned, the scale goes like this: unusable - bad - average - good - perfect. I hope meaning of perfect is self explanatory?
If the op states that he is giving away his phone, Sense 3.5 roms don't have nothing to look for here. Giving away phone with some of it's features severely limited is insanity.
It is you Sense 3.5 users who mixed up priorities here, not I. If the thread was titled "most eyecandy" rom I'd be silent.
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You'll probably get laid more often as an added bonus because of it.
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I devised a few fail safe mechanisms to secure myself from that event. Namely, getting dead drunk on her birthday after work works best
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erklat said:
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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I did the same and she is so happy... IPhone is the best smartphone for girls. That's for sure.
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I did the same and she is so happy... IPhone is the best smartphone for girls. That's for sure.
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This, they don't know what Android or Desire is, and ultimately they don't care. But they will never make a mistake recognizing an iPhone and a BMW keys.
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@erklat
And I have no beef with roms or their developers, but with idiots that turn every rom recommendation thread into this. OK, you're free to do whatever you want, but you can't come and write "Sense 3.5/ICS :drool:, this, this, this and this doesn't work, but it's perfect".
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I wasn't giving the OP a recommendation for a Sense 3.0/3.5-ROM, I was recommending him a Hybrid (2.1/3.0). And this I can do with pure conscience because the ROM I'm using right now (InsertCoin) is way faster than the Stock-ROM that was originally on the Desire and i havent experienced anything thats not working yet (no reboots, no failures, ... everything is working fine).
Yeah, maybe the Sense-ROMs you are not bashing are a bit faster than the ISC and Revolution Hybrids but there you have an uglier ui, so you have to balance.
Maybe you should testing a Hybrid for yourself because now you are just assuming things.
erklat said:
Why do all threads where people ask recommendations for third party turn out Sense 3.5 and hybrid abomination commercials?
Run either a ruu or flash her a rooted stock rom unless you have an ambition in becoming a mobile phone user support for ungrateful girlfriends.
Or simply buy her an iphone as I did for mine.
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I want her to have 2.3, and there is no good official 2.3 ROM from HTC. So I guess I might as well try a girlfriend-friendly 2.3 ROM, preferably one that "just works" and that I don't have to help her with a million times. If you can recommend such a ROM, it would be great.
I agree with you that eye candy is not the most important thing here. Usability and stability is. Unfortunately, stock android have usability issues with simple things such as the dialer and the keyboard. And Android 2.3 is a must.
I will never buy her an iPhone, so that's not an option.
What do you recommend?
3l_P3sc4d0r said:
Maybe you should testing a Hybrid for yourself because now you are just assuming things.
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That is a very bold statement to make when talking with someone with 217,71 times your post count here
I did that, when they were popular, IC was on my phone for a whole 15 minutes before restoring nandroid backup of my AuraXTremeGinger I used at that time. You can feel when it was placed in past. To be honest, I didn't get to the post where you recommended anything. It was enough for one which spends as much time as me reading these threads to read a couple of the first ones and catch the drift of where is it going. After that I just scroll real fast through the thread. No Stock rom recommendations? Check. Commence bashing.
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I want her to have 2.3, and there is no good official 2.3 ROM from HTC.
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Who told you that? You have the one in my sig, baadnwz made his rooted stock GB rom and teppic74 has his.

Whats Better

Hey Guys whats better my cousin keeps on bugging me and he dosen't like my oppinion so I'll aks you guys instead so that he'll finally stop so
What do you guys think
AOKP or HTC Sense?
Better in what way?
To me its all a matter of preference. I've never been able to stand a Sense ROM more than a week.
biohazrd51 said:
Better in what way?
To me its all a matter of preference. I've never been able to stand a Sense ROM more than a week.
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Overall Performance and the Camera Quality
Again, its a matter of preference. Some people like Cameras apps from other ROMs, or off the market. Performance is a mixed bag too. I never had much luck with Sense 3.0 or 3.5 ROMs with performance, but other people say it works flawless.
Just give him the advice that probably 90% of the people here would: try them out and find out what works for you.
But if your looking for an opinion... the best cameras I've used have been in sense roms, but other than for the camera I can't stand sense, never cared much for eye candy.
I prefer speed and stability so I would say the best is aosp, aokp, cm, even miui. But never sense... again just adding my 0.02$
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Thankyou alot guys now I could review for my tests on Monday
If you're talking bout something at the level of ICS 4.0.4, then I would say 'performance' wise AOKP is going to be better in general, not as much 'eye-candy' and such you'd get from Sense. (As far as I know, no Sense ICS rom has a working camera yet).
But if you're talking Gingerbread and earlier, it's really going to depend on the custom Rom. For example AOKP is most likely going to out perform a stock sense install, but a custom Sense Rom could be on par.
Guess it depends on where your priorities are, do you need more eye candy, or are you aiming more for raw performance/functionality?
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If you're talking bout something at the level of ICS 4.0.4, then I would say 'performance' wise AOKP is going to be better in general, not as much 'eye-candy' and such you'd get from Sense. (As far as I know, no Sense ICS rom has a working camera yet).
But if you're talking Gingerbread and earlier, it's really going to depend on the custom Rom. For example AOKP is most likely going to out perform a stock sense install, but a custom Sense Rom could be on par.
Guess it depends on where your priorities are, do you need more eye candy, or are you aiming more for raw performance/functionality?
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There are some ICS Roms that have camera and camcoreder working on the DZ, like Ice Cream Jibwich and AOKP bulids for vision (those were the only ROMS I got to try, so those are the only ones I know. )
The Android Manual said:
There are some ICS Roms that have camera and camcoreder working on the DZ, like Ice Cream Jibwich and AOKP bulids for vision (those were the only ROMS I got to try, so those are the only ones I know. )
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But are either of them SENSE 4.0? I was specifically referring to Sense Roms. I know some work, as I'm using an ICS rom where it works.
kbeezie said:
But are either of them SENSE 4.0? I was specifically referring to Sense Roms. I know some work, as I'm using an ICS rom where it works.
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ahh... well none yet but once the DHD gets that ICS update Dev's we'll get that Sense 4.0 camera up and running!
and hey why is that Kernel 3.0 from the DHD so important? the people from the Desire S forums have it already.
If ur cousin want a best camera yet performance out of it,get the xperia sense by taz instead..it doest use sense as launcher,but use xperia launcher which was really light..like running 17mb for me.. it's a fast yet with function of sense
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Fast, Stable, Bare ROM?

There are a ton of EVO roms now, and without reading every single one, I wanted to just ask all of you:
What are a couple good, very stable, and fast ROMS for the EVO with everything working (especially hotspot and 4G)? I'd prefer it to be as bare as possible, I already have all the apps I want backed up. A lot of ROMs (like the one I'm running) claim to be super fast and stable, and not all of them live up to their word. Don't need sense, I'll be using a launcher anyway.
I think you're looking for Digital Karma v7.77; this is pretty much the rom that's leading the pack so you may discontinue your search now...
Reloaded. Fast, lightweight, everything works.
moreno4xl said:
I think you're looking for Digital Karma v7.77; this is pretty much the rom that's leading the pack so you may discontinue your search now...
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Funny enough that was the ROM I was running when I posted this. I didn't like all the bloat that came with it...some of the programs were nice, but most just took up space. And I wasn't terrible impressed with the phone, it wasn't very snappy and responsive at all. Maybe my phone's just a dud ;p
My favorite ROM by far thus far has been Calkulin's EviO 3, but for some reason as of late, even with a fresh install, the market always force closes, especially when using titanium backup. But only on this ROM...anyway, so I've begun looking for a new best friend lol
classic v0.1.0 supermagic or digitalkarma v7.77
digital karma...every other rom ive used had something broken, because i dont like Sense UI as much... ive been using ICS roms :good:
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Funny enough that was the ROM I was running when I posted this. I didn't like all the bloat that came with it...some of the programs were nice, but most just took up space. And I wasn't terrible impressed with the phone, it wasn't very snappy and responsive at all. Maybe my phone's just a dud ;p
My favorite ROM by far thus far has been Calkulin's EviO 3, but for some reason as of late, even with a fresh install, the market always force closes, especially when using titanium backup. But only on this ROM...anyway, so I've begun looking for a new best friend lol
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Hey Wiz just a little curiosity question... Do you have your sd card partitioned? Because that space problem you mentioned is virtually solved with having your sd card properly partitioned. You sound like you have a lot of apps saved to TB and you're restoring to your internal memory, that of course will cause a lot of problems along with unsufficient space.
I hadn't at that time, but since then have. The problem wasn't low space, I just didn't like all the apps that were pre loaded into karma, I didn't use or need most of them. But for some reason, with a fresh install, it just didn't seem too snappy to me. Idk, I could have a messed up phone
The best rom ever for stability and simplicity was SalvageMod. Never had a more stable and lightning quick phone. It isn't supported anymore, but then again, the Evo in general is barely supported now.
http://code.google.com/p/salvagemod/downloads/list
Try it, you'll like it With Tiamat 3.3.7 as your kernel, you'll have like two days of battery life.
thegregbradley said:
The best rom ever for stability and simplicity was SalvageMod. Never had a more stable and lightning quick phone. It isn't supported anymore, but then again, the Evo in general is barely supported now.
http://code.google.com/p/salvagemod/downloads/list
Try it, you'll like it With Tiamat 3.3.7 as your kernel, you'll have like two days of battery life.
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hell yeah, that's what i was about to say
I'm learning a lot lately here thanx to everyone. My question is... I know there is sense and non sense roms. How do u take a sense roms and make it senseless? I know that senseless is still a sense rom.
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gsx1000r02 said:
I'm learning a lot lately here thanx to everyone. My question is... I know there is sense and non sense roms. How do u take a sense roms and make it senseless? I know that senseless is still a sense rom.
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Remove the sense launcher and replace it with a different launcher such as Go or ADW and Removing all the sense apps except the ones necessary to keep the phone running.
The Creator of Suds N' Bubbles
Wow so that's all it is to turn sense to senseless
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i think this is a start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769528
just don't remove friendstream
Twinturbo is very satisfactory and reliable, imo. Very fast. Not quite naked, but easy vanilla. Best rom for evo4g I've found thus far.
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jmilliken1 said:
Twinturbo is very satisfactory and reliable, imo. Very fast. Not quite naked, but easy vanilla. Best rom for evo4g I've found thus far.
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Sense or non
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DK v7.77 is great. Overall very speedy on my evo. Only issue is that it tends to be a little unresponsive when swiping to unlock or swiping to pull down notifications and I often have to swipe several times.
My favorite right now is SS_Ultra. AFAIK, it's only one of two roms based on the latest evo ota. It's a bit of a wip, but the v3.0 that was released last night is really great - very snappy and responsive and almost 400mb free after flashing and moving dalvik to sd-ext.
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DK v7.77 is great. Overall very speedy on my evo. Only issue is that it tends to be a little unresponsive when swiping to unlock or swiping to pull down notifications and I often have to swipe several times.
My favorite right now is SS_Ultra. AFAIK, it's only one of two roms based on the latest evo ota. It's a bit of a wip, but the v3.0 that was released last night is really great - very snappy and responsive and almost 400mb free after flashing and moving dalvik to sd-ext.
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Glad you're enjoying my ROM.
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thegregbradley said:
The best rom ever for stability and simplicity was SalvageMod. Never had a more stable and lightning quick phone. It isn't supported anymore, but then again, the Evo in general is barely supported now.
http://code.google.com/p/salvagemod/downloads/list
Try it, you'll like it With Tiamat 3.3.7 as your kernel, you'll have like two days of battery life.
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barely supported anymore?
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
ropodope said:
barely supported anymore?
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
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The Evo has basically no more major updates, and most users and developers already had their upgrade available (mines in october), and got a dual core phone, and stopped supporting the original Evo.

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